hey J in Tex. We understood when they told us that if we didn't keep the overtime down they would cut our routes. We heard them when they said they weren't paying for overtime. We listened when they threaten our jobs. Don't be a self righteous idiot.

B in Ca: The "real company" was losing $1 million a week when ibc bought them that seems like a nice place to go back to

why to screw up our 1090 ibc. k.c. either screwed up our 1090 by a mis-type our they still owe us money from our law suit. pls fix this prob.

Hey "J IN TEX"...We went to work for CBC..then IBC took over and is DESTROYING the company that we built. Maybe when they pay off all the lawsuits they we sell it back to the real company.

CHANGE IS ONLY POSSIBLE THROUGH UNDERSTANDING-UNDERSTANDING IS ONLY POSSIBLE THROUGH HEARING-HEARING IS ONLY POSSIBLE THROUGH LISITING-SO LISITEN TO YOURSELVES AND YOU COULD BE THE FURTURE OF A ONCE GREAT COMPANY. OR JUST KEEP ON BITCHING AND BECOME MORE DISSATISFIED..REMEMBER IBC DIDNOT ASK ANY OF YOU TO COME TO WORK FOR THEM!

I have to agree with Mike from knoxville, This is the worst place I have ever worked at, the left hand has no clue what the right hand is doing. Throw in the useless lazy supervisors in to the mix and it gets real fun. From what I can tell any idiot can be a sup. because no one else wants the job. All I can say is I cant wait till the day I quit and thats going to be real soon.

i believe this is the most unorganized company and money taking company i have evr worked for and i have done everything from hauling hay to selling cars

For all you devil Dogs fans.....switch over to LITTLE DEBBIES

For the benefit of the Employees of the Bidderford Bakery...the password for the IBCDOUGH program is ABOVE AND BEYOND. Other bakeries may have different codes.

Mike, That password does not work (IBCDough.com)....any ideas? Thanks

Want to surf to ibcdough? Go to http:??www.ibcdough.com. You will actually be redirected to the company whom is handling the details of similer companys. There will be a box for you to type in the "Program name." Simply type ....reach the potential...all lower case. That's it...your there! P.S. An earlier post was referring to the poor condition of our trucks and out-dated handhelds, etc. Man... can I relate to that. The truck i drive has almost 600,000 miles on it. It steers so hard I'm having constant pains in my right arm, behind my elbow. My personal doctor, says I have probably slightly torn a ligament, or at a minimum the constant straining has caused tendonitis. This has been written up four times in the past, I have discussed this with the mechanic who is responsible for the trucks at our depo. He has worked on it several times, to no avail. I have asked our branch mgr. to speak with the department head of truck shop at our bakery, and according to him, he only gets the run around and or "we'll have someone take a look at it next Wednesday"...but no one shows. Before it's all said and done, I'll have the last laugh...looks like a strong case of workcomp, or OSHA claim possibly. It's a darn shame that it has to come to this. I firmly believe that any and ALL company's whom care more for their share-holders, than their loyal employees, will in due time perish. Sooner or later, if you don't take care of your crop, your harvest won't take care of you.

It all comes down to money...they want more out of the drivers with the least equipment. Wonder bread is loosing market share every day because they are so far behind the times with the product line every one wants lo carb bread so what does wonder do?..bring out sugar free bread...what a joke that is...it dont sell so the wise supervisors like Jim gonsior plus you up then yell at you when the stale is over 5%. It is real hard to belive this company has lasted 80 years the way they run things and treat the drivers. With out us they would be out of biz.

Why wont IBC replace the equipment we need to do our job? We have trucks from 1980 with no heaters and many many miles on them and computers and printers that have to be just as old. Dealing with weekly truck break downs and daily printer jams gets old fast. I can see why there is a real problem of keeping drivers around for any time.

To: pauinemwolcott@hotmail.com <<< I tried to contact you by copying and pasting your email address into a note about retirement with IBC it came back undeliverable. Please contact me at jfnal@earthlink.net. As I am looking into possible class action. I truly do appreciate the sympathy of those who are responding and we need you to be our eyes and ears in helping to fight back. Please read my comments posted last week and respond if you have any thoughts or input. Thank You

WHERES THE SURVEY THE EMPLOYESS SUPPOSED TO TAKE?

No wonder our IBC stock keeps going down the tubes, we have dishonest employees right under our nose in our own payroll department.

Choooomper...here Chomper...come here boy... You da man! I mean da dog... sometimes it gets pretty intense around here, we need ya to lighten things up a bit. You get my vote for post of the week!

Hey Chomper, I think you just got through puberty.

Messages that show favor to IBC can and probably will be blocked.

If the ownersof this site is willing to sell it to IBC, I would like to make a counter offer. PLEASE keep this site up, there is more to life than money. You are doing a great service for both the consumers and employees.

Any of you guys been hurt by the grocery strike in Southern California? I heard Las Vegas and Denver is next for the lockout/walkout.

OH NO!, it looks like the anonymous post today from Decatur, Emporia and Milwaukee were posted by the same guy. Or maybe its the owner of the site who's trying to get more money from IBC by pretending to be employees.

Mr. Anonymous from Milwaukee,,,I do not believe one guy owns this site as you alledge and if the company thinks all of these complaints are written by one person then they really have their head in the sand. Also, IBC does not have to buy this site, all they have to do is take his ass to court. You think he can afford legal counsel to fight a 2 billion dollar company. NEVER.

MY husband worked for Nissen for 30 years and retired with the understanding that his health benefits would be intact. Now they are charging us $485 a month, $735 if we want our son included. there is no way we can come up with 6,000 or 9,000 a year on our small incomes. Is anyone initiating a class action determination of this? Contact me, pauinemwolcott@hotmail.com Thank You

I work for IBC myself and am very happy with my job. I enjoy both the job and the people I work with including my customers. It is obvious to me that this is a site where ex-employees go to whine. I hope that people who come here to read this crap realize this as well.

CONSUMERS: Leaving a complaint on this site will do nothing for you. Please contact IBC directly as this is not a company owned site. The Corporate Office is Kansas City. I am sure they would be happy to hear from any and all about product concerns.

I have spent the last hour or so, reading comments on this site. I wonder why such an outlet needs to exist. If it wasn't for this consumers would maybe contact the right people to have their concerns about products heard. The only possible reason for this site is for the owners to try and make some money from the sale of the site to IBC to stop the insanity of constant complaining being done by possibly one person. That's right nobody really knows how many people write all these complaints. It could be just that one guy that owns the website thinking that the more he puts on his site the more money he can make from it's sale to IBC. I personally applaud IBC for what wasting time and money worrying about this useless website.

Hey Ken, you just played your hand way too early in the game. Now IBC has time to go back and clean up the mess you say their man made. Never show your hand until it's time to collect the pot.

DAVID GONZALES OF LILBURN GEROGIA DO NOT LIKE BLACKS AND HIS TIME IS COMING, MEANING THANKS TO HIM IBC MAYBE LOOKING AT ANOTHER LAWSUIT

For all you Drakes Devil dog lovers. you just don't get it. We changed the way we make the Devil Dogs because we want the cake to be able to stay on the shelf for 3 or 4 weeks. We don't care if there fresh or if you like the way they taste, we like the way they will stay on the shelf and that we won't have to pick up stale cake. We here at IBC like the longer shelf life and we don't in any way care about you consumers.

TO THE GUY WHOS WINING ABOUT HIS JOB. SUCK IT UP! YOUR LUCKY THAT YPU HAVE A JOB RIGHT NOW. BE GRATEFUL THAT IBC KEEPS A JERK LIKE YOU.

IF YOU GUYS WOULD READ THE MEMOS YOU RECIEVE MORE CAREFULLY, YOU WOULD KNOW THAT THAT THE SURVEY DOES NOT START TILL AFTER THE 26TH

Let me tell you how the company responds to these complaints. "Smart Companies Turn Knowledge into Action" IBC is getting valuable information on this site. They need to address the issues that are posted here and put corrective action plans together. But it is cheaper to shoot a coupon to the consumer to shut them up. As for the employees, we are on our own as we do not even get coupons.

i have not seen any phone numbers ..... im just asking how are they supposed to respond to these complaints.....my name is joe hall..... take a chill pill..... communist? yeah ok

Hey route guy where is your name? The company would indeed like to have names so they can fire the so called trouble makers as management would call them. I think we still live in a country where we can express ourselves. Are you a communist mr route man? And what about the consumers? They gave their names so if you are so interested in helping to make things better give them a call and take care of their complains with the products you deliver.

how is the company supposed to respond to" these complaints" when people like you dont leave names or locations?

Lets go management and start responding to these complains. We know that you read these statements that employees and consumers are making. What is your problem? Or are you just guttless.

For all you Drakes Devil dog lovers. you just don't get it. We changed the way we make the Devil Dogs because we want the cake to be able to stay on the shelf for 3 or 4 weeks. We don't care if there fresh or if you like the way they taste, we like the way they will stay on the shelf and that we won't have to pick up stale cake. We here at IBC like the longer shelf life and we don't in any way care about you consumers.

they don't comply with the laws of the government why would they comply with the laws of the land?

WAKE UP KANSAS CITY!!!!! You cannot comply with the new laws of the land "Integrity, Consumer Service, and Respect for the Workers" and you can't hide the poor performance of your managers and the lack of quality controls in all your departments from the public anymore. TWINKIE.ORG ROCKS!!!!!

Hey "MARK COOPER" do your job. Follow up on employee complaints. And PLEASE make eye contact when talking to your employees. When you look at the sky when talking you ;ook like your hiding something.

About the supervisor in the office that was looking at porn on the company computer, shame on you,is that all you have to do? Too many supervisors i have seen sitting in the lunch rooms smokeing and talking with everybody then they get another drink and go to the office and sit and talk more with other supervisors that sit and talk. Get out on the lines and do your jobs. Someone needs to monitor and correct this waste of money and manpower.

I guess we have all read Mr. Fuquay's email below with fear in our hearts and a tear in our eye. I beg the owners of this site to help the thousands of retired employees who are suffering a similar fate by having this site serve as both a bulletin board and rallying point to get IBC to lower the monthly payments required for the retiree's health insurance.

Hey puzzled from los angeles, they are checking the site here at the hostess bakery. i witnessed one of them looking at it when i walked into his office, he quickly clicked the backspace arrow to leave the site. that did not save him too much embarrassment because the previous page was a porn site. he was really confused then and had to turn the power off to save face. the guys running this place would not know how to fix it if they tripled their salaries. they are known as D & D here, it could be their names or a better description would be Dumb & Dumber..same thing

I believe the manager who is posting on this board is stating "required reading" post with a tongue in cheek. IBC would love to get this site down but they are afraid to go after these guys. But I did hear that the managers are checking this site everyday to see if one of their subordinates is posting something about them. Might make them behave, who knows?

well yeah I knew that, I was hoping one of those big shots that keep telling us here how valuable this forum is to the company would tell us why nothing has been done.

The answer to the question is that profit is the main concern and employees come last.

I'm puzzled. If the bigwigs in KC as well as managers around the country are using this site as "required reading" then why has there been no changes made on the front lines?

Oh lack of domestication...You take it how ever you want it but please keep in mind that it would be highly unlikely for me to pay you a complement considering how you have insulted my family and how rude you have been to me. I feel empathy for you because I know you get no support at work. I feel sorry for you because you also get no support at home, except for the dog.

I think everyone should take heed in Mr. Fuquay's situation. It could be one of us. Have you thought about possible class action suit? I will keep your email address and forward any names or news that I hear of with the same plight. Good luck to you and yours. I hope you get this travesty reversed.

Corporate has sent trainers in to educate middle management on the correct use of the "F" word INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!

plant closing list due out Feb 01,2004

We continue to win!

Hey diva, in a strange kinda way, and at the risk of getting slammed by you, I'm gonna take that as a compliment?!?!

Loyal employee- when you write your letter to the "IBC Presedint", make sure you use your spell check......

My father and mother retired from Continental Baking Company, bakers of Wonder Bread and Hostess Cake with combined years of service totaling almost 65 yeras. My father was in Sales Management for most of his 30 years; part of his retirement pension, in 1980 was that he and my mother were to be covered at no cost for health insurance, as long as either of them lived. The company was sold to Ralston Purina in the late 80?s or early 90?s and their coverage stayed in tact. The company again changed hands in 1995 and is now owned by Interstate Brands. Back in December they received word that in order to keep their health insurance they must now pay almost $500.00 per month. This is almost as despicable to me as the Enron scandal. They are being stripped of their very lively hood being forced to reduce cost for things such as phone services and cable subscriptions etc. in order to maintain their insurance. Interstate is making the joint corporate claim that they can?t afford to maintain the promises that were made 20 years ago, but with acquisitions such as Wonder and Hostess as far as I can find profits and stock prices are up. I am sure there are other?s that are being thrown in the same boat and have no choice but to swim or sink. I would think that maybe someone of your resources might have the ability to bring this to the attention of the public and possibly some one that can help fight to get peoples rights and dignities restored. Feel free to contact me at any time. Email jfnal@earthlink.net Thank You, Joe Fuquay

Anybody got any good gossip about the LA plant?

Is the "DIVA" in Pamona, CA Diana Gonzalas??? If so.....RECALL HER. She is a lazy and useless human being to this company.

Hey lack of domestication, I only sign diva when I post to you because you deserve to have a diva looking after you.

Ok I'm game so I'll bite. First if I were in upper management I would never make public (especially in this type of forum) such a bad report card. Second, it doesn't really say anything that the rank and file doesn't already know. But third, if this were truely a report card, what are you going to do about it?

hey new bedford word is your next on the hit list for closing . work going to biddeford plant.just passing it on good luck

I still think half of the foremen in the N.B. plant don't know what they are doing, But they do know that all they want is for their shift to be over so they can go home and say "made it another day without knowing anything maybe i can go even earlier tomorrow. " Thanks Dugay..

Never mind Diva, I see you had him write that long and winded post. Why did you have him role play like he was somebody important at Kansas? If you ask me, that was pretty silly. Did you dictate all that to the poor guy? Does he have a mind of his own?

hhmm...Diva! How did you come up with such an interesting screen name? I like it! Much better than "another wife of a whinning loser". If you please note, I wrote the "Maine" name twice in my post. One was spelled correctly, the other...well, I forgot the "e". When are you going to allow your "hubby" to post? It'll be interesting to read what he has to say (write ?) Stop being his mommy and let him speak (write) his own mind... What did you think of the post by "bill". I hope you have a positive opinion of this fine, young, new manager.

hey lack of domestication. If you ever really read anything I posted you would know I don't reside in the state of "Main" which is correctly spelled Maine. And fyi my hubby has more sick time on the books than you can imagine. We'll see how you feel when you reap the benefits of his hard work.

The saleman from Biddeford should thank god he has a union to save his job. I think that is a shame that we have people like this working for the Company. The next thing he will tell us is that the union should strike in May. Good luck you will need it.

I second what "anonymous" from "Biddeford Maine" said about the IDIOT & MORON "salesman" from "Biddeford Main" Hey "salesman" are by any chance married to that self proclaimed "HR Professional" that hangs around here? She did say that her husband worked in sales...

Just for the record, since i can's post my location on the box marked other-I will do it here, Im on the Central Coast and before i forget, Our bakery has done a great job gettin our product baked-sealed-shipped. With all the problems i hear elsewhere about no filling or boxes missing product and poor baking, That makes it even better to know that our bakery is taking care of business. L.A. your doing a great job

Thanks to all for your comments and pointing my obivious spelling problems, Althought i do try it does happen, I appreciate your input and take it all in stride, This is what a message board show be, Improving on all faults of which we all have including myself, Jeff thank you for your input

To the moron who blasted the managers.then claims he will call in after the bowl game so his manager will have to run his route. You should be a man and take your lame vacation day instead of laying your work onto someone else. Know wonder we we have the problems we do because ignorant people like youself blame everyone else.

bill, congrats on your promotion! By reading your posts I am sure it was well deserved - I mean that, no sarcasm here - I'm glad things have worked out for you, you will do well. It is refreshing to see a new manager with a positive attitude like yours that is willing to come to a board like this, with mostly negative opinions, and be willing to be flamed for what you believe. Just don't pay attention to idiots like the "numerical dude".

WHAT IS A BRANCH MANGER?A LOW LIFE BACK STABBER,WILL DO YOU IN TO SAVE HIS ASS,BLAME YOU FOR HIM,TREAT HIS SALES STAFF LIKE SHIT,BUT THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS TO US WHEN IBC TAKES FROM HIM LIKE FIVE PERSONAL DAYS AND ONE WEEKS VAC.AND HIS CAR.SO MR MANGER HOP IN MY TRUCK WHEN I CALL IN SICK DAY AFTER BOWL GAME LIKE MANY OF US WILL DO.I LOVE MY JOB FOR PAST 23 YEARS ITS THE BOZOS THAT MAKE IT HARD.DO YOU TREAT YOUR FAMILY THE SAME?

To Bill: What a great post acknowledging your spelling errors. But I have to point out that there is no letter 2 or letter 4. In the English language these are called numbers. Furthermore, don?t confuse the word ?to? or ?too? with the written number ?two?, the same holds true for the written number ?four? and the word ?for? or ?fore?. Keep up the good work!

2 new bedford, Thank u 4 pointing out my using the letter 2 instead of typing the word two, but i think u overlooked i also use the letter 4 instead of spelling it out, im sure it was just an oversite on ur part, As 4 being programmed -mmmmm?-i really didnt undestand what you meant by that but thanks 4 pointing out all my faults, you have a great day and i hope my spelling has improved 4 you

Every time I try to get on www.ibcdough.com it says web sight not responding, whatever the people at IBC is trying to do with this site is not working. Put the contents on twinkies.org...at least this site is up every day.

For all you Drakes Devil dog lovers. you just don't get it. We changed the way we make the Devil Dogs because we want the cake to be able to stay on the shelf for 3 or 4 weeks. We don't care if there fresh or if you like the way they taste, we like the way they will stay on the shelf and that we won't have to pick up stale cake. We here at IBC like the longer shelf life and we don't in any way care about you consumers.

to "a loyal employee". this site is coming down? no way IBC lets this stay up . IBC has not a clue how to compete in todays market or treat their sales force. they dont have the power or know-how to do squat.

to consumer: Little Debbies is made with sawdust and sugar. We here at hostess use higher quality ingredients such as woodchips and sugar. That's why there's a difference in price. Woodchips are much more expensive than sawdust.

I work in the northeast and would like to move to Florida, and for some unknown reason stay with this company. Are things any better in the south than up north. I'm sure if it is like everywhere else, there are plenty of openings in the state.

hey Jim, do you know how to read??? this is the place to let off steam. If you want someone to contact you you better send your information to someone else

Unfortunately, the Union does more than protect the decent employee. It also allows the lazy, stealing, poor work ethic individuals to keep jobs that they do not deserve. "If I do more, they'll expect more" is evident. The pattern here seems to be-if an employee goes to work with "a decent day's work for a decent day's pay" in mind, that person will be used up. The ones that whine and fuss and moan about how hard they work, while not actually accomplishing anything other that whining and fussing, as well as maybe pocketing a little of the company's profits and/or merchandis.....well-those employees aren't tasked-management doesn't want to deal with the outcome-which is more whining and fussing. Meanwhile, the ones that actually do try to do a decent, honest job are used up--because it's easier to ask more of them. Boils down to poor quality in the IBC work force, not 100%--Lord knows there are plenty of decent, hard-working folks here in the plant and thrift stores. Also-there is too much attention to everyone else-including paychecks. For instance-no other company that I'm aware of puts all employees checks in one envelope-for all to see as we rifle through for our paycheck. I don't invite these folks over to my house for dinner, why in the world would I want them to know how much my deductions add up to, what I make,.....poor decision on IBC's part to leave all of our most personal information wide open. tsk tsk tsk

I see we have IBC management using this board to push the hostesscake.com website, I guess if you can not beat them you have to join them.

I HATE MY JOB I GET TIRED OF BEING WROTE UP AND THE UNION LETTING JOHN GRAHAM PUT IT IN MY BACK SIDE WAY TO GO (DALE KING) LOCAL #519 PRES

Does anyone know anything about the IBC DOUGH CONTEST that hostess cake is having right now. i am having a problem getting on the web site i heard the the site name was ibcdough.com but i am unable to get on this web site. if i am typing it in wrong will someone please send me the correct web site, or tell me what i am doing wrong.

www.hostesscake.com is relatively new and owned by BoasbergWheeler Communications here in Kansas City. BWC is a media communications company and one of their major clients is IBC along with SprintPCS, another Kansas City based company. They developed the Planet Twinkie website for IBC and it appears the hostesscake.com site was launched as an answer to this site for IBC. Seems to be a good idea, if one was looking for coupons to replace moldy, stale, bug-infested product that was purchased this is the place to go. As an employee I caution fellow employees to avoid sending in complaints to this site because they do ask for your name and address to be submitted. But the consumers will find it helpful to get those coupons to them very quickly.

DAVID GONZALES OF LILBURN GEROGIA DO NOT LIKE BLACKS AND HIS TIME IS COMING

For all you Drakes Devil dog lovers. you just don't get it. We changed the way we make the Devil Dogs because we want the cake to be able to stay on the shelf for 3 or 4 weeks. We don't care if there fresh or if you like the way they taste, we like the way they will stay on the shelf and that we won't have to pick up stale cake. We here at IBC like the longer shelf life and we don't in any way care about you consumers.

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To Bill, Yes I can see why IBC made you management. You can't spell and you use the numerical 2 for the word. They have you programmed. Most management does not know how to spell or treat their people either. Numbers must fill your head where your brains are suppose to be. Keep up the good work. You will be SOARing soon.

Well...well..look who's learning to sling mud! My girlfriend, the HR "professional"! Hi honey, how's that winnie, spineless hubbie of yours doing? Is he still disfunctional in his husbandly duties? Are you going to allow him to use the keyboard one of these days? I want to thank you for your deep concern regarding my last post. I just can't hide anything from you...you can see right through me. I just get so emotional sometimes...you know? Am I housebroken yet? Nope, can't keep a clean set of shorts in the house. Since I'm in lower management, who got me this job? My sister's husband brother-in-law's best friend's uncle. Say hi to my dog? He doesn't like you very much. However, he thinks I'm the greatest! He raises his hind leg everytime he sees me...I think to salute me or something.

From 1-2-04 to 1-08 04 we received no Roman Meal Round Top. The no. 1 seller for us in that brand. "Internal problems" we were told. Our Customers were dumbfounded as were the route salesman as to why this could go on for 1 whole week. Then this week we get adds on every variety of roman meal because "The Roman Meal people are going on the market this Wed." This is just 1 example of the lunacy we have to put up with. Most Millbrook people I know are looking forward to the merger.

Bill, it's hard to do your job when you aren't allowed to order what sells and forced to take out plussed product that doesn't sell. That's our reality glad yours is different

Southern California is about to take the biggest hit from the SOAR program! There will be plant closings, route consolidation between Wonder and Millbrook, thrift store closings, Hostess reorganization, shedding of mucho management. Stay tuned as it will be announced shortly...........

Where is our union,while IBC takes away our benifit's!!!!

well here goes, i have been reading this site 4 quite some time and after reading everything that could possible be said i wanna put in a few good words 4 once. I was a route man for 14 years and yes i loved my job, The people and accounts were a joy 2 work with and i found it very rewarding. I was offered a management position and took it-not because i was a suck up or was related 2 anyone in the company but because of my knowledge of our product ( i hope so at least ). We have a terrific team of salesman up here and 4 the most part they do a great job. Like all other asspects of our company we have had some problems but nothing like what ive been reading, most of it is caused from running light on our market due 2 some great sell-offs, These things can happen and when they do we do our best 2 get back on top of it. All it takes is commucation and a little time on our part, I know that this is gonna be blasted by some out there that have nothing better 2 do than degrade others so the shame will be looked upon someone else other than themselves, we has a company have a responability to do the best we can with what we have, Stop blaming whos upstairs and just do what u can at ur level 2 make the difference. This is just my opinion and its what i feel-I just wanna thank the guys up here 4 doing a great job- U all know who you are

We didnt get no certificates here, we recieved nothing for Xmas. Mgmt. probably kept them for themselves.

Hey not yet domesticated, Great comments when you kept to the point. Unfortunately your readers had to weed through your personal bagage to get to the meat of your post. Try to keep your focus when your posting and keep the emotional stuff out of it. As far as a proclamation about being a diva...I don't recall that statement ever flowing from my keyboard. HR Professional, yep and proud of it. :) How's the housebreaking going? You said your position with the company was lower than sewer scum, aka lower management. Which family member got you there? Say hi to your dog.

All the complaints on this site does not surprise me. The majority of companys really do not care about their employess,management or the labor force or the laws and rules they are to live by. The end result is profit and productivity. Management will bend and break the rules to achieve these goals. I have seen it happen many times in the years i have been here. Just look at fanny may candies in the news. Management does not care. They are trying to bypass Ill state laws of 60 days closing notice and deny contract benefits. The only ones that will stop these evil acts are the lawmakers and the news media exposing corrupt and greedy upper management.

To Not Yet Domesticated, You hit the nail on the head and I had to think "WHY" do I put in the long hours day in and day out with IBC only to have my benifits and vacation to be less than the people I over see. I get rewarded for my hard work every year with raise thats less than or equal to, the people I supervise. Its truly disheartening that IBC does not care about its manager and supervisors.

Hey B.B. from L.A. - the company will not fall because of this website, in fact IBC is putting in processes to address the employee and consumer complaints that are posted here on this site. In fact I have witness some firsthand, what you will see is a stronger and more viable company that is willing to attack these complaints directly. We all should be thankful this site exists, why do you think IBC allows it to stay up? This is valuable stuff and IBC does not have to spend a penny to get the pulse of the employees and their consumers. Don't preach any doom here buddy, you are way off base.

It's sad to see the passing of an american Icon. The Twinkie has been around for over 75 years. This company is failing, and soon to be a thing of the past. For those of you who complain, I understand. What I also understand is the lack of bakeries in California, therefore the lack of jobs. The owner of this site wasn't happy just to "get his" but had to go even farther. When the doors shut, who are you going to pin the blame on?

I thought the discontent was only in Ogden.

First of all, I still disagree with all these wives, sisters, mommies and friends coming out in defense of "employees". Get these "employees" to the keyboards and have them write their OWN stories where they'll have a real meaningful impact. Real employees want to hear from Real employees, not their mommies. I am in no way supportive of IBC current policies towards its union and non-union employees. Many of us non-union personnel are becoming increasingly disillusioned with the higher decision makers in the company. Long term non-union employees cannot look forward - after several decades of long, hard, loyal service - to a well deserved extra week of vacation, it has been taken away. Union employees can accrue up to 6 weeks of vacation (enjoy!). Non-union employees can accrue only 5 weeks. A previous post by "Quarter Century Member" brought out to light that if you are a non-union member and are planning to retire before the age of 65, you will have to "pony up" $235 out of your own pocket for medical benefits. What is IBC thinking of? For years the union crowd felt like they were out of the loop. Now IBC is doing everything in its power to make its only support group, the non-union employee, feel isolated and dejected. And no...we do not need the help of "Another wife" the self crowned "HR Professional" diva.

Excuse me, in fairness to IBC employees in the LA area, should they have to tollerate being totally ignored by their HR manager? Never having phone calls returned? Should they have to fight for every cent they earn because HR doesn't want to pay them? Should they have to work in fear of speaking the truth and keep a low profile because they will (in your words) ruin your life and careeer if you make too much noise? I don't think so. If your really in HR then tell me what is the adverage length of time it takes from the time a grievance is filed till there is resolution? Do you pay your employees based on State and Federal Wage and Hour laws or do you use the "contract" to manipulate how ee's are paid? Are you following the letter of the law in requiring your ee's to purchase uniforms? If Diana Gonzales were truely an HR PROFESSIONAL she would not tollerate all the EEO violations that are going on at IBC in LA. As far as reviews go, (and this is BASIC HR procedure) if you are only reviewing a few people in the company those review don't mean dog poop. It's just another example of how ALL employees are not treated the same. Basic HR 101. My advise to all is to stand up for your rights and force this company to follow the laws. When they violate them take them to task and make them do it right. If your doing your job then you should never be afraid of standing up and telling your HR person that something wrong is occuring in the work place. HR stands for HUMAN RESOURCES not BE AFRAID OF US. Geeze.

To the person inquiring about the Oregon lawsuit, if you are asking because you have a claim, file it! This company is very vulnerable right now and will pay you to shut up. I understand they are under investigation by the EEOC for major violations at a bakery on the West coast.

I agree, do not place the blame on the HR department, policy is dictated by KC.

In all fairness to the LA HR manager, she is only doing what the company wants her to do; if they wanted her to do reviews she would. This company does not have the interest of the employees in mind. I know because I work in HR here and I see it 1st hand. My advice to all is to try to keep a low profile because they will ruin your life and career if you make too much noise. They are very BAD people.

Hi, i'm a production supervisor at plant # 20 in miami and i am writting this because i have two major concerns. First, the way we the supervisors are treated. Last month the company employees were taken for a christmas lunch, another supervisor and myself asked assistant manager Fred C. why the production supervisors are never included on activities like this or thanksgiving lunch for instance, at wich point he lifted his foot, pointed to his sole, and said that the production supervisors are nothing but dog shit for the company. I would like to know if this is the way the company as a whole sees it because it really hurts being treated like this after 13 years of working proudly for thi company. Second, as a person who invest money on the company stock, i'm concerned about the salaries paid to the managers in this plant. It is a waste of money if you take into account the amount of time they actually work. There is one of them who doesn't even make 20 work hours weekly physicaly on the plant. This really hurts as well when you see the way the stock is doing in the market and the efforts being made to bring it back up. It is going down the drain here and some of it it's my own. Thanks, hope to hear from you soon.

to the guy who had the 6 month performance review: I haven't heard of anyone in LA ever having a performance review let alone one at 6 months. I just curious if you signed the review. Once you sign a performance review it's usually a done deal, (at least that's how it works with real companies). If your ever in a situation where you have to sign such a document that you don't agree with what is written on it, don't hesitate to write on the document that you disagree with the statements made on the document and then after you sign it demand a copy of the document. But then again, none of the people my husband works with or my husband have ever had a performance review in their entire careers with this company.

no performance reveiws in LA, they do not operate that way, email below must be from another bakery, please resend with correct bakery identified

Heartfelt thanks to the webmaster of twinkies.org, because of the complaints on this site the Valentine cakes have an 800 number on the back of the packages for the consumers to dial in their complaints. Keep up the good work because it would not be there if this site did not exist. Soon an 800 number on ALL the packages!

If you look at the back of the package of the Valentine Cakes you will find a 800 Phone Number to Call

arg! Diana Gonzales gives all good HR professional's a bad name! If it were a club she would be booted out!

CONSUMERS:YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME POSTING COMMENTS HERE!!!THIS SITE IS RUN BY EX-IBC EMPLOYEES WITH AN AGENDA IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A PRODUCT TAKE IT BACK TO THE STORE WHERE PURCHASED THEY WILL GIVE YOU A REFUND AND AN IBC REP. WILL THEN GIVE THEM CREDIT

If your waiting for your HR person in Los Angeles to make a change in your review...I hope its not DIANA GONZALAZ, She is the worst thing that has happened to IBC since the 14 codes.

Someone in LA actually got a performance review??? My hubby has never had one and he's a lifer.

To anonymous from LA concerning your job review...In order to work here all employees have to sign an agreement that includes a promise to not make disparaging remarks about IBC. Now they are putting these remarks in your performance evaluation, where is the justice!!

Recently, I received a 6 month performance review which stated that I had met all of my performance standards on the form part and went on to state very disparaging and false things in the narrative section. I have talked to my HR person and she stated that she would give my boss another chance to "clean up" the review before he files it. I don't think that is right either however I do like working here. I was wondering what I could/should do if she doesn't correct it. Any ideas?

To the employee from Schiller Park Illinois , can you give us more information on your statement.

To- Employee of the month....the way you bashed "rolling in the dough" makes you the perfect candidate for IBC management. I do not think she claimed to be a "motivational speaker", she was just telling her story. If YOU don't care to hear it- stop reading this board!

I've worked for this company over 20 years and some of the things that goes on each day just blows my mind.

Another reason to stay in the Union and not go Company. IBC is now making anyone that retired before the age of 65 to pony up and pay $235. a month for medical benifits. IBC just keeps getting better and better. I can't wait to hit them with a work comp claim just before I retire.

"rolling in the dough" - So, who cares? What's the moral of your story? You've left us all "dazed & confused" with your pointless and boring story. Don't give up welfare just yet, you're no "bueno" as a motivational story teller.

Boy, some of you folks are truly a "dazed and confused" bunch of "radicals". You hate the Company that has enable you to have a decent way of life by paying you excellent wages that are way above average for the kind of unskilled labor you folks perform. And now you are turning against the Union that has offered you a blanket of protection against this cruel and selfish Company that has oppressed you for many years (please try to read through the sarcasm) You people are like a bunch of rotten spoiled brats! You hate the Company and now because you disagree with the union leadership, you hate them too? Why don't you old unhappy people just hurry up and die...stop using the happy peoples air.

I am very disappointed in the way you do business at your Colorado Springs store on Platte and Institute. I drove all the way across town to use the blue coupon card that I had almost full by shopping there. I was told that the cards were discontinued, the woman behind me was also very unhappy because her card was entirely full. I won't be shopping there any longer because of this poor business practice. I would like a response to my e-mail and the $5 reimbursement that was promised on the coupon card. thank you.

"The challenge of any organization is to build a feeling of oneness, of dependence on one another - because the question is not how well each person works, but how well they work as a TEAM!"

Open letter to a Union Official How can you as an Union Official be against a group of our own (Teamster's) trying to reverse the decisions of Central States of reducing the pension benefits and health care coverage that you and I as members have fought so hard to get? I understand several of the trustees are Hoffa's right hand men that are on the board of Central States, perhaps that is the reason, locals are backing away from this? How are your members suppose to retire if they have to take a cut in pension and then pay the outrageous health benefits that are outlined in the book sent out by Central States? Shouldn't we expect our Union leadership to protect the member's rights? Shouldn't we expect the five Union trustees to represent us, the members and retirees-and not the interests of the employers? I was shocked today when you told me to stay away from those radicals. These are our brother's you are talking about. These are the very guys that you ask to vote for you. These are the guys you will come crawling to come election time. These are the guys that pay your salary along with all your perks. Now you turn your back on us and call us Radicals? In the past we always worried about the company giving us the shaft, now we have to worry about our own Union doing the same? Talk about dazed and confused? Decide which side of the fence you are on and let me know, so I can decide if you are worthy of my vote, or perhaps I should look for someone that will protect me, the real Teamster!!!!

IBC is going along with Central States to rob us more of our pension... Fight back against Central States and IBC....Get on board for the class action lawsuit.... Join at http://www.tdu.org/index.html

Lawsuit Targets Unfair Reemployment Rule Teamsters and retirees in the Central States Fund are set to open up a new front in the battle for pension justice, with a class action lawsuit in federal court. Attorney Ann Curry Thompson has traveled to Georgia,Wisconsin, Ohio,Minnesota, and North Carolina to meet directly with Central States Teamsters who are being victimized by the unfair reemployment rule that prevents a retiree from supplementing his pension. Her firm has received hundreds of questionnaires from Teamsters and compiled them into a data base to better understand the problems members face. Now Thompson is set to launch the lawsuit aimed at rewriting the reemployment rule, so that it allows retires to work to supplement their pension. At a recent meeting an angry Teamster rose to say, ?It?s a disgrace the way the pension fund and our own union officials have made this rule so arbitrary and restrictive. It?s turned into a weapon to prevent Teamsters from being able to retire.? Thompson replied that?s exactly why it will be challenged. The Pension Improvement Committee is raising funds not only to support on-going rank and file organizing, but costs of the suit and of an independent actuarial study to get the honest facts regarding our pension fund. If you would like to help, contact TDU about fundraising or donate to the Pension Improvement Committee.

Just wondering did the managment get your bonuses in 03,did you lie ,canive,backstab.Wait thats the IBC motto.You sure earned it clueless as you are,is this job worth your health!!!!!!Where are all these changes you know less means more.04 might meen out the door??

Jim Forbes and Bob Mauro are set to take over here....We're DEAD!!!

dang 30 years you better get out while you still have a retirement package thay are cutting ours as of jan 1

I have worked forC.B.C and I.B.C. for over 30 years and I agree with I.B.C. employee from San Francisco. We make a good product and are proud of the product we produce and distribute in Northern California. That is why our products are # one in this part of the U.S.A.

I have worked for this company for almost two years,and I am a very happy employee. There is worst jobs out there. I am very proud of our product, and while there is room for improvement on some things Interstate Brands has treated me well. And I encourage everyone who works for us to d your best and the company will continue to grow. We all try to do our best and bring you the freshest product we can. God bless all our workers and keep them safe.

About a week ago it was December. I don't think you have much recourse.

Still can't get on yhe web site. Does www.IBCdough.com really exist?