Idiots

almost forgot that little poem was sent by the BLACK SHEEP SQUADRON

How 'bout a little levity to end the year. This one's for you Mr. Alvarez Tony A. you're moving too slow When are you going to start the blood flow If A stands for Ax, then you are the man Cuz chopping is needed in our little clan Now thay THEY have all of their xmas toys Let's get to whacking those good ol' boys We're just dumb bakers, so of course we don't know How cutting our people will get you more dough If you still don't get it, then let me explain Them boys sitting next to you are really insane With this year that's ending the message you're sending is WE WON'T SURIVIVE 2005 THANK YOU VERY MUCH

How can you get ahead in life when this company has f*cked up your life so bad that you have to see a shrink. The HR manager we have thinks its fun to hurt the individual and family. All she wants is a statue of herself in front of the plant.

Bloody Monday Is Fast Approaching And I Am Going To Right Some Wrongs. Espescially The Two Troublemakers That Ratted Me Out. They Will Be Dealt With Severly.

to the guy who hasn't got a call back. one question for you. ARE YOU STUPID? WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO WORK FOR A BANKRUPT COMPANY? YOU KNOW AS SOON AS THERE ARE LAY OFFS YOU'D BE THE FIRST TO GO. Try to find a job somewhere else.

Did I ever tell you the time that I was unloading and a wheel fell off the rack and I waited 3 hours untill someone came out to help.....Gotta love that union wage! IBC has the shittiest equipment in the industry, they'd rather pay us "bottom feeders" OT then buy new trucks. May be the next time I am out on the road and the bypass signal comes on I will ignore it and pull in and ask the scale operator to write the company a ticket because the trailer hasnt been washed in months. Ca doesnt play when it comes to hauling food in dirty trailers. Gotta go the Semi is loaded and it is raining! you know the rest.

To all Hodgkins Employees: The post few below is correct. If all you do is complain about your job FIND ANOTHER ONE. This goes to everyone, people in the back constantly complain, yes I know it's hard work, but you make a good pay rate, you have to work holidays, well you knew that when you took the job, and when you call off on a holiday you''re not screwing management, you're really screwing your fellow worker making him/her stay for a double. The routemen make a good salary, yes their work is hard but like I said before you knew that before you took the job. Now the office. How hard can you people be working up there. How hard is it to move paper around. What is there really to complain about. You don't like your supervisor, well guess what most people don't like their bosses. So if you constantly talk about quitting do us all a favor and DO IT. This especially goes for the BAM. Thank you for letting be blow off steam

Brenda, You did a great job at your position and helped me always, Your Milwaukee friend, no longer with IBC.....

Oh I forgot to put my name in! I'm Brenda

First of all, I was not Complaining about about the company, I've have worked for Wonder for 20 years and always been grateful for my job! My point was, a job was eliminated, one that I believed to be useful to the company. And who are you to decide , if I earn my money. At least I sign my name.

Patty Cake, I was not very clear on my first post. The reason I am questioning the $12 million figure is because IBC is claiming the "savings" on this 8-K filing. Is the 8-K filing for the listed financial period or is it an accumulative amount for the year to date? Actually, in either case the amount shouldn't have been listed because they don't pay out the amount until the end of January. Is this just a case of pre-posting a "savings" which hasn't occurred or what?

i have been working at this location for 19 years.and we have trucks here that dont RUN and we have NO HEAT in none of the trucks we drive. we are always breaking down on the side of the road 2 to 3 times a week. we need help at this depot. our mechanic is never at work always on vacation. all our trucks are 20 to 30 years old. we need trucks that run properly and not fix for a few weeks and then breaking down. we need heat in our trucks,wind shield wipers to work. something need to be done .

This is in response to the Hodgkins Operator. You're making people believe you are losing your job - when in fact your position was eliminated not your job. You will still be employed by our company in a position that will pay you more, even though there is talk that you don't deserve it. So, quit your whining and be happy you will still be employed by our company, which I believe is a good company. The company can only be good as it's employees. Too bad we have so many bitter and vicious people working for our company. If you all have nothing better to do than complain about the company than do yourself and the employees that are content with being employed by IBC a favor, QUIT. No one is forcing anyone to stay at a company that they that unhappy about. This is the first time in years I have gone on this website and I am really ashamed of all the bashing being done on this website.

Randy i agree with you . you know what she thinks of us in tranpotation

Our HR dept head Big Deb is a real power hungry bitch .She is in way over her head she is clueless

You people would not believe what king of HR manager we have. She does not care who she hurts and you better know she runs the show.

She thinks she can fire anybody she wants. But if we are sold she might be the first to go.

Billings is it true that your HR director said she would fire anyone who posts on this message board.

Billings where are you come on Buckshot "lapdog" respond

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Our bakery has poor quality products..we have tried, tried, and tried but our new plant manager can not seem to figure anything out that works for our sales. Our old fashion bread is the worst its been in 5 years. We need to do away with ESL and private label and i know thats riiight:)

zzzzzzz......zzzzzzzz...ring ring..."hey driver, I got some OT, wanna take a load out today"...Ah working on my day off...OVERTIME....load the truck big guy, I am on my way! Gotta love that union wage! Twinkies.....3.59 Box of Cup cakes......3.79 Working for Hostess and Driving in LA....Priceless!!!!!!!!!

How bout sending in some $$$$$$$$$$ so I can order even more parts!!!!!!!

I got lots of parts in today-so we should be good to GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why do u remain anomymous? U SCARED??????

EVANSVILLE, Ind. -- Two Wal-Mart employees who police say followed a manager's orders to shoot and kill a stray cat have been charged with federal animal cruelty. The men, both assistant managers at the Supercenter, were arrested and released after a court appearance Wednesday. Christopher Anderson, 29, and Jeffrey Hardin, 21, told police the store's manager ordered them to get rid of the animal that was living in a storage trailer behind their store. All managers potentially involved in the incident have been suspended without pay pending an internal investigation and could be fired, said Wal-Mart spokeswoman Sharon Weber. "We were outraged when we learned of this incident. This kind of action is completely inconsistent with the way we do business," she said. A truck driver who reported the incident said he saw store employees placing what he believed to be a dead animal in shrink wrap a day after he heard workers joking about shooting the cat. Store manager Darrel Weitzel told police he had told some of his employees to get a gun and get rid of the cat after attempts to coax it from the trailer failed, according to a police report. IBC better clean up your sanitaion Act you can not misuse pestisides to kill wild birds!!!! read your labels AIB approved I think NOT........

Billings your other shoe fell so you are out of luck FAGS

Sorry guys, It's my fault the company is going under. I ran 6.3% stale last week!! :(

To Angie in Rocky Mount, PLEASE!!!! Order us parts so we can keep running.

To The Person Saying Bloody Monday Is A Wet Dream Because I.B.C. Is Looking To Sell The Company Think About This: The Company Needs To Trim Management Payroll And Downsize In Order To Make The Company Attractive To A Prospective Buyer. No One Will Buy This Outfit In Its Present Size And Shape.

TIC TIC TIC TIC WHEN THE OTHER SHOE GOING TO FALL

To Consumer And Angie: Trying To Resolve Issues Through Proper Channels Has Never Worked As Management Keeps Their Head Buried In The Sand And Would Never Stand Up To Upper Management For Fear Of Losing Their Own Jobs. And As Far As This Board Goes, It Is A Harmless Way To Vent Ones Frustrations With This Cobbled Mess Of A Company.

Sounds like IBC'S management in Hodgkins is on some type of drug to make a statement like that this ship is sinking fast I can only hope he;s on board when it goes down. He sound like one of those kissass management people that is unaware of what going on around hym.

The stock is soaring. It is now at $6.63. Our present management team as reversed the downfall. The new year will bring a new start of increased sales and jobs and many bonuses to the present management team as without their help the company would have failed. Pat yourself on the back corporate. You did your job.

Hey Angie from Mt. Pilot,95% of the stuff on this site is BS,but the 5% of the other is right on the mark.That 5% shows me how mis-managed this Co. is and probably saved alot of employees lots of cash by selling their stock before it was all lost.You're right ,nothing is going to change until some if not all of this management team is out the door.

Do any of you really think that writing on this website is going to help you with any problem you have with IBC or someone at IBC??? Get real and grow up! I agree with Julie in Charlotte, we are adults! Why stress over all the BS written here? Dont you have anything else better to do??? I just read this stuff and sit back and laugh how childish everyone is. Although I have complaints about somethings that have happened here at IBC-it really isnt worth my time to stress over it. Just do your job as you should and keep your head high. It has worked for me! Happy New Year!

I'm confused. In the company's most recent 8-K statement (for the period ending 11-13) the company is claiming a $12 million "savings" by them not paying into the "profit sharing" 401K plan for non-union employees. The previous statements they made was that there were 1200 employees affected, then they said 900. If there were 1200 employees then that comes out to $10,000 per. Now is that $12 million a year and if so, why are they claiming this credit for this period. They have always made this payment at the end of January (and it has never been the $10K per employee which they are claiming!). I know for a fact the $10K does not apply to most of the non-union employees so are they including stock options or what? More book cooking? Hmmmm.

To the Hodgkins Operator from a former Employee: Sorry they are cutting your job. If they need to get rid of a person they should look to the HR Department. Matt McAdamis is a jerk, Carol Gee knows nothing and the clerk Laura , things in the HR Department are suppose to be confidential, but she tells her break buddies everything. I know this for a fact because the bitch did it to me. All I can say to you Hodgkins Operator - Good Luck and maybe you'll find something better

Bloody Monday!! Some of that information has leaked out on the east coast thats why we are in a uproar. It is not a wet dream!!!!

To the person that put the post, Lets face it group, Bloody Monday will happen in every plant except the ones that are on the slate to close, Some people on this site do have a few friends left in the G.O. That give out information. It is sad that this company keeps every thing HUSH HUSH. Lack of comunication from top to bottom that is why we are in this mess besides Mark Dirks collecting a fat pay check and never keeping up with the consumer needs. But it will happen on Monday .

Greensboro, N. C. I feel like alot of people are upset about all of this with IBC. But some of you need to get a life! It's not the end of the world. The way most of you talk(write) about the bad things that are happing, how can you expect anything good out of this. Lift your sprits up by remenbering some good times in your life. Are some good values that your parents taught you. Does that amount to anything to you? Alot of this complaning is really silly! THANKS ---------ALLEN JERNIGAN in Rocky Mount & COOKIE MONSTER in Henderson, NV. You both were the only nice, etc. to leave a message and to leave your name. Why do you upset people insist on being so mad and rude. I used to be very mad at Merita, but i got over it. The stress will kill you! Their's other ways of dealing with this. Sometimes it does not happen the way we want. But it's what we make of it. We will move on no matter what happens. We are adults, lets deal with it. How come their is not alot of complaining on the east coast? I wish ever one well. Life is going happen no matter what. Julie Ann Gigi Lay 12-30-04

Dooms Day is Near! Start looking for a new line of work.

Keep on Truckin baby!!!!!! The Semi is loaded and I gotta go, Love that union wage! Billings is closing, well, I have seen your trucks in the Pamona lot, and it is no wonder you are closing, thats that IBC crap equipment, CBC would have never allowed cake to be delivered in that crap. You plant propbably looked like your tractors! The more plants they close, the more cake LA has to make, the more work we have, hey maybe we can get a couple of runs to the Northwest ( line driving will be next for LA Hostess, it is the only way to save money, just look at UPS and all other union frieght carriers)....Whats that, the semi is loaded and I gotta go.....you know whats next!

Mr. Alvarez, take a look at who sends out the most email out of the KC office and you might gain some insight on who should be cut. These guys are trying to look busy but have nothing to contribute but try to save their own skin?

I know about jobs being cut, mine was! Didn't see it coming but a head had to be cut so they eliminated the operator. The one job that helps out every department! So now when you call Hodgkins plant all your going to get is a voice, not a Good Morning.

we have already lost 1/2 of our managers in this area.I understand that thecompany is not doing well, and that we have to cut costs.I.B.C. could have made these changes before declaring bankruptcy . Innovative thinking is what drives companies all across the U.S.New products, more personnel devoted to our companies safety programs,cut down on theft,actually listen to employees.We could save untold millions and future jobs.Do we want to save this company or sell it?I have enjoyed working for this company for many years, but my family has read some of these comments posted here and elsewhere and cannot believe what they read.Hopefully, I.B.C. will come up with a new plan other than cutting empoyees and benefits.Good luck in 2005!

you know with all the rumors going around, (some will be true, some won't) you would think people would be trying to work together to save your plant. Maybe in some plants they are, but they sure in the hell aren't working together at Hodgkins. You have the Operation Manager blaming Sales, the Sales department blaming Shipping Department, etc. But the one department who places blame on everyone else is the office. The supervisors don't get along, the BAM is MIA most of the time. (three hour lunches), the clerks all hate each other, no one will help anyone else out. They believe that they are all safe. Well wake up people!! Instead of being so back stabbing why not try to work together and see if we can stay off the shut down list. This goes for all the departments. Bloody Monday doesn't have to mean Jan. 3, it could come anytime!!

What is Bloody Monday?

I was gone for awhile had a bad nightmare I thought that I was living and working at the sweetheart bakery in Billings as a routesalesman it was bad .I'm o.k. now thanks to some heavy meds.Hey Buckshot how did you get the nickname "lapdog"?

Chadwell And Mcdaniel To Be Rehired As Part Of I.B.C. Restructure. Then They Will Crack The Whip On 208

Bloody Monday is no rumor, It is going to happen in each and every plant except for the ones that are slated to be closed. Trust me it is going to happen.

To the sales man in Rocky Mount, You are so right, It would be a better place with out Adam Ligon, To bad all those thrift store clerks did not come forward when they were terminated for not doing what the player wanted. Its just a matter of time, Every dog has its day, Where is Bob Pape when you need him!!!!!!!

Billings be where here comes Westons, no union jobs.

It is better to be safe than sorry.

mike mcdaniel to be rehired-the beginning of black monday is near.

Yes Bloody Monday Is Going To Happen................

Happy New Years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BLOODY MONDAY??????? Do u think this is really going to happen???

HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!!!!!!!!!

I have worked for IBC for many years. Throughout the years this has been a great company. We started having problems when they hired Adam Ligon as the General Manger. He fired our General Sales Manager, who is great at his job and hired someone with NO COMMON SENSE!!!! Sales Dept. has gone down hill ever since! Since the changes Adam is now the General Sales Manager, sales still suck! There is NO kind of organization within the sales dept. Employee morale is down because of Adam. No one likes him. He blames most of his mistakes on his Division Managers and secretaries. They work hard for him and he does not appreciate the work they do. I think the Rocky Mount Bakery would be a better place without him.

"Spudly" Your constant bragging about your "Union Wage" and the overtime you accumulate in traffic, or the Motel room on IBC's dime for a layover goes to show the amount of waste even down at the "street" level of this company. It's jerks like you who take advantage of the system who end of ruining it for the rest of us along with the greedy individuals at the top. You'd better love that "Union" wage while it lasts, if it lasts. (hopefully for all of us it does) A waste of another's honestly earned wages are you...

All management in this plant would even slit their own mother's throat to get ahead. What they don't know is that they will be going down the same road all them good employees that they have screwed. Management has never learned a lesson that you treat people the way you want to be treated. Your honesty and respect has been lost due the fact that your intentions are to hurt as many families as possible. Now look at your record and see how many people have left. I am tired of working 12 hour shifts.

Ah, please excuse the bad spelling, my bad Milbrook bakery driver, but you better be nice to me Milbrook driver, I may take your RUN when we all become ONE. 90 Grand a year in LA driving at my union wage is very obtainable!! bring on the DOT! they will want to leave with an application! Whats that?...snow on the vine...oh yeah...LAYOVER TIME thats right folks, the hotel room is on IBC, ....IBCen you all later, no chains on this Semi! Milbrook, say it with me baby! The Semi is loaded and I gotta go, Love that Union wage! Dont hate the players people.....hate the GAME!

YOU KNOW IT IS A REAL SHAME WHEN A COMPANY LIKE IBC IS IN THE TROUBLE THEY ARE IN AND HAVE A CHANCE TO GET A FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR ACCOUNT A YEAR AND ONE OF THE SUPERVISORS IN KENTUCKY TELLS THEM THEY CAN'T HELP SERVE THEM AT THIS TIME SOMEONE FROM IBC NEEDS TO CHECK WITH FORT KNOX AS THAT IS WHO WAS TURNED DOWN THAT IS SO DISGUSTING WHEN THIS COMPANY NEEDS THESE ACCOUNTS TO HELP PULL THEMSELVES OUT OF THE WHOLE YOU KNOW SOME OF THE SUPERVISORS YOU ALL HAVE DOES NOT HAVE THE SCENTS THAT THE GOOD LORD GAVE A GOOSE

TO; COMPANY PERSON THAT RESPONDED TO THRIFT STORE CUSTOMER WITH 20 DOLLAR BILL........................................................... I HAVE WORKED AT A THRIFT STORE FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS. PLEASE TELL ME WHAT IS THE ACCEPTABLE TREATMENT WHEN YOU DO NO T HAVE CHANGE FOR A 20 DOLLAR BILL AND YOU ARE THE ONLY CLERK-PERSON IN THE STOR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WILL BE AWAITING FOR YOUR ANSWER????????????? ????????? ?????????????????

Mr. Cooper, do you know what the f--- is going on in your Profit Center? Bread and Buns sitting in depots right now that will be 3 days old when it hits the market! Costco..small account..no roman meal sent because no one at the plant could bag it..so right now its still sitting on Glendales dock..why??? every day miscoded product...Transport drivers delivering a mail bag only to a depot, yes no bread on the truck!!!!! You need to get out of that office and out into the field!!Things had been getting better but there has been a shift back to total chaos when we get our loads!! I understand what lies ahead for all of us but without accountability then things will not change! Lastly, since you are the leader you need to get out and introduce yourself and LEAD this company back to RESPECTABILITY!!

TO: ELGIN, ILLINOIS CUSTOMER I AGREE WITH YOU, THE CLERK SHOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN NASTY WITH YOU. I HAVE BEEN WORKING AT THE THRIFT STORE FOR OVER 15 YEARS.. I SOMETIMES DO NOT HAVE CHANGE FOR A 20 DOLLAR BILL. I TELL MY CUSTOMERS THAT I DO NOT HAVE CHANGE FOR THAT BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A HIGH PRICED STORE AND WE DO NOT HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO START OUT WITH . MY CUSTOMERS UNDERSTAND AND BRING IN 5 OR 1'S. ALSO I'M SURE YOUR 5 LOAVES OF BREAD WAS ABOUT $2 OR $4 TRY GOING TO KROGER AND BUYING THAT FOR 2 OF 4 DOLLARS. ALSO MOST OF THE TIME THERE IS ONLY 1 PERSON WORKING AT A TIME, I'M SURE YOU WOULD BE EVEN MORE MAD IF YOU WENT TO THE BREAD STORE AND IT WAS CLOSED BECAUSE THE CLERK HAD TO LOCK THE DOOR TO GO TO THE BANK TO GET SOME 5 DOLLAR BILLS AND 1 ONES SO SHE COULD TAKE YOUR 20 DOLLAR BILL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BYE BYE BILLINGS YOU GUYS ARE TOAST .PLANT TO BE SOLD TO A NON UNION COMPANY

Pomana your right the teamsters union is weak and will sellout who ever they can

HECTOR AND ROCKY SOLD US OUT. THEY TOLD US THAT THEY WEREN'T INTERESTED IN MERGING THE PRODUCTS, THAT IT WAS 7 YEARS OUT. ANYONE WHO TRIED TO EVEN RAISE A QUESTION WAS YELLED AT AND INTIMIDATED BY THEIR MUSCLE "WATERBOY", THE MUSCLEHEAD BITCH WHO KEPT BRINGING HECTOR WATER. HOW DOES ROCKY REPRESENT US IF HE CANT EVEN SPEAK ENGLISH? ALL I KNOW IS FUCK WONERBREAD, WE BETTER START LOOKING FOR NEW JOBS BECAUSE THIS SHIT IS GOING DOWN THE TUBES. IF THEY ARE GOING TO SOAR IN O4, WHY NOT START BY CLEANING HOUSE WIH OUR MANAGEMENT. WHAT A BUNCH OF LOOSERS.

Many of you people have asked why have people with very little education and no brains in charge. Well think about this. Bakerys run 7 days a week, 24 hours a day. Off day are often changed at the companys discretion. Management has 10 to 12 hours of work in a day with no overtime and only paid for 8. Worker are made to work 10 to 12 hours and are burned out or so tired they get injured. Take time off for any reason and management wants to write a document on you and put it in your file union or not. Never get the holiday off ever. The only thing good is the pay. If you have a family forget spending time with them cause there will be little or none. Forget taking a vacation when you want to unless you are a lifer with the company. So my point is anyone accepting a position is from the bottom of the barrel so to speak or the desperate.

the company is hurting for money but vince calbesse in schiller park gives his dick suckers overtime his good old girls they get visa come in any time they want bigggggggg dick suckers you fags you know who you are fags

spudly?......out in high school buy others. BUY others??? My 11 year old has a better command of the english language than you. Well dip me in shit and shoot me for stinking. MY semi is loaded and ready to go....

Anonymous.... Normal people who use the term anonymous as a persons name are the type that got knocked out in high school buy others. Knocked out in clubs, and knocked out in the mall by a women who took your parking spot. You are a coward my friend, you are an internet RAMBO. You are one who hides behind your computer and talks like you think you know it all, in reality, you dont know a thing. You probably have never worked for Hostess, you are most likely the janitor who is learning to type. Go back to your porn site and put the Twinkie away! You are a coward, and I will no longer read your posts as they are as cowardly as you. I am SPUDLY, I work out of LA HOSTESS....come on buddy, put the Twinkie away, there are no girls to look at on this message board! I gotta go, the semi is loaded and there is a union wage!

As the ship is sinking this company still has employees out to screw the working people. Don't these people realize that they are getting the shaft too? These people must of come from nerverland.

Oh IBC going bankrupt....hmmm, not what my checkbook says, and I got paid thurs. Unless Washington Mutual is going bankrupt, I dont know what all the commotion is about. I love LA! where else can you drive a semi and make 90 a year....! :)

AH, living in LA, what a great life! I feel bad for you people in the mid west, and for the people in MT. but why would you want to live in MT. and work for a cake company, I thought that MT. was were us transport drivers went to retire. Afterall, isn't that all you people in MT cry about is Californians moving to your pretty state and buying all the land. Come on you live in MT and work for hostess....there is only one place to work for hostess that makes big bucks, it is the only place where you can tell mgmnt to go F themselves in their face and the union will back you, LA baby!! LA...oh, whats that..its raining?? oh well, the semi is loaded and i gotta go, traffic is jammed and I am on overtime, gotta hurry....yeah right! LOVE that union wage.

The Management has no HONOR if they were to fire a person that is off under the FAMILY LEAVE ACT. But that does not surprise me as i have seen and heard alot thru the years. There is alot of DEVILS in the world and why most of them seem to work for this company is beyond reason. Like all of us they too will meet the maker and pay for their evil ways and burn in the fires of HELL.

With all the complaints to higher ups about Matt Mcadamis, maybe they will get sick of his crap too. I'm suprised he found the time to talk to you about your termination, as he never answers or returns phone calls. Not sure what he's getting paid to do except jack people around

Hey Matt did here : And as it is appointed unto men once to die'but after this the judgment.

Thanks for the termination Matt marry christmas

I have been sick for a long time.And went under the F.M.L.A and Matt Mcadamis of Human Resources Manager gave me a termination for christmastime.Watch out fellow workers your dealing with a real monster.See you in court Matt merry christmas'Thank You

What Hodgkins really needs is a BAM that comes to work!

Gold Medal Bread in Ralph's (Kroger) Good Job Willie St. Pierre what else are you going to screw up you moron

Maybe she is smiling because she is going to fire your dumb ass. Ha!Ha!

TIC TIC TIC BOOM It will be done soon

Chatsworth is saving money. Each driver is saving 8 pieces of paper. Of course this if offset by the intellegence of the supervisor who holds the entire branch up by having private meetings before they can go home. but we are saving money on those 8 pieces of paper.

What an idiot. If the company doesn't respond to employee comments what makes you think they will respond to consumer complaints? Must have been some manager in training or GOB who posts that crap. LEARN THIS: THE COMPANY DOES NOT CARE WHAT THE EMPLOYEES THINK AND THEY CERTAINLY DO NOT CARE WHAT THE CUSTOMER THINKS. This has been sponsered by "Lessons in Reality.com"

Buckshot did you have anything to do with that big smile Big Deb has been wearing lately .

Hodgkins don't you know Interstate brands new mission statement "Keep your eyes closed and your mouth shut on what goes on around here" Also the empolyess are on a need to know basisif you need to know anything we will tell you until then KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT.

Question? Does anyone know what the monthly storage fee is that Interstate charges to store a vehicle at their agency next to midway airport? It must be a great deal,(old dark red dodge parked for months)Will the rate be much higher for a motor home?What about inside storage? Please email at: depotmanagersfavoriteemployeesgetawaywithmurder.com

KC guy it like yhat all around us they in management think the rule don't apply to them. they feel they are the elite and any cuts will not effect them.Time will tell if this company can make or not make it .They will circle the wagons and protect one another when one of them get caught doing something wrong .Its a shame that they are this way but their judgement day will come soon.

If Management was serious about saving money and cutting cost they would have eliminated much of the excess supervisors and upper management that is just hanging around smoking and drinking coffee and playing around at their computers. I have seen regional come into a plant and ask the plant eng , How can we fix this problem. Regional had no clues. What a waste. Also heard regional Eng get on the phone and ask for 2 racks of buns for his block party. He should go out and buy them like everyone else. I guess that is the way it is in America.

YES I hear we will be loosing at least three shifts here right after the 1st of the year. happy new year huh.

how does filling dumpsters with returns help our situation ? did we get the cost of all those ingredients for nothing?

I Work In The Louisville/ Lexington Market Area. You Wouldnt Know That We Were Up By The Way The Upper Management Carries On. Upper Management Cuts Are Coming In January Im Told. There Is A L ot Of Dead Weight That Needs To Be Trimmed. Happy Holidays

cockerell i was wondering what kind of work you do for ibc, you must have a job that you set on your fat ass every day, i have work for ibc for over 22 years i have never seen a routeman that was able to sit on his ass all day. it is people like you that thank that they are better than anybody else is what wrong with this company. get rid of the unions and yall will see how much your insurance will cost, you will work on wednesday and sunday with no extra pay.

you don't suppose walking away from all that debt has anything to do with the mid-west and all other profit centers being in better shape?

The Louisville/ Lexington area of the Mid-West profit center is up over $190,000 over last year. If some of you winy cry babies would get off your ass and actually come to work and do a decent job IBC would be profitable

The Guy In Defiance Is Being Sarcastic Just In Case Anyone Is Wondering. No One Is That Big An Asskissing Fool. Merry Christmas Everyone.

IBC has never been better. Soar was a total sucess and a positive move to improve the company. The stock is doing fine considering what has happened. The new corporate management is doing a great job in saving the company. Everyone should be happy and not complain. Things have got a lot better and will continue to improve. Just give it more time.

Box of Twinkies...3.59 Hostess dounut gems....1.29 Driving for Hostess and living in LA....Priceless!! Gotta love that union wage! The Semi is loaded, and I gotta go!

Hey you idiots get off Buchshots back he is not that hard up.

IBC isthe most useless outfit that ever existed. The Texans have screwed up a good company!!!! Yup, it stinks. Bye Bye you fags in Billings!

Don Long W/W: Have you gotten that lazy bitch from the union to get your $$$$ yet? Go get them Louie!!!!

Happy holidays Buckshot we still like you even if you are a litle brownnoser.

Don't Big Deb and Buckshot make a cute couple?Buckshot what do you get a woman who has everything?You two derserve each other.

Looks like the Billings plant will be nonunion when Westons takes over

Buckshot are you spending the hlidays at Big Debs. Nice to see you post what a job she is doing.Buckshot you brownnoser

I have heard of rumors also of a company from Canada buying ibc, but the unions would have to go.

Is there any truth of a Canadian company buying the Billings plant?

What Hodgkins need is a BAM with some BALLS!

Thanks Mr. Cooper, another missed opportunity, A simple paragraph or two wishing your profit center employees a happy holiday would have been nice. 1IBC Hmmm.

Merry Christmas to all my brothers and sisters. May we all have a better new year. Peace-out.

allens a fag !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The latest Rumor is that the whole works will shut down and a few will reopen with another name. All the unions will have to go bye bye.

why does everyone sign this board anonymous?we all know the company has a lot of problems right now, a lot which can be blamed on poor management and a whole lot on lazy route drivers, store clerks etc.,hiding behind union contracts and the such.this is not the case everywhere, but it is a problem in a lot of areas.the idea of a union is to benefit the employees and the company,to keep both sides in check.lets stand together and work hard and get rid of all this negativity. MERRY CHRISTMAS

all is NOT well with this company. i too hear that cuts are coming in january.

I want to turn in Jerry kemp for stealing money, I need to know who to speak with , I am afraid i will lose my job. This guy is a thief...

Merry Christmas and happy New Year Deb. You really are doing a great job.

Just wanted to wish you all a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Keep up the good work Hodgkins and Schiller Park, we're working hard to sell the product.

Yep, I hear he gonna go after Jan 1. He had enough of IBC. I wish he not go, but I cant blame him. You cant fight fire when all they give you is more gasoline to put it out. Score another one for SAP and IBC loses another good man.

Right on everyone at Henderson, you all rock! Great employee appreciation from Managers and this is the best bakery in the country!

Hey! Big D things might be better but half of management will be cut.

Will the good ole boys survice the cuts coming in Jan

Merry Christmas to everybody at Plant 17 and a Happy New Year.

Can someone post Tony Alvarez's e mail address? I think its time to go directly to the top because he's not getting correct information from those ass kissers in Kansas City.

Happy New Year !!!!! GET READY FOR THE PLUSSES, SO IBC CAN MAKE UP ALL THERE LOSES IN THE FIRST WEEK OF THE NEW YEAR !!!!! (sorry) LOL

Happy New Year !!!!! GET READY FOR THE PLUSSES, SO IBC CAN MAKE UP ALL THERE LOSES IN THE FORST WEEK OF THE NEW YEAR !!!!! LOL

Interstate Bakeries Corp. released a hodgepodge of preliminary financial data late Friday as it continues to piece together an accurate picture of its status leading up to the company's bankruptcy filing. The Kansas City-based company (OTC: IBCIQ), which filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy on Sept. 22, said it lost $16.9 million during the first quarter of its 2005 fiscal year. That compares with earnings of $11.2 million in the year-ago quarter. Sales for the quarter, which ended Aug. 21, were $812 million, a 2.3 percent decrease from the prior year's $831 million, the company said. The unaudited financials, contained in a Form 8K filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, also included monthly operating reports for the four-week periods that ended Sept. 18 and Oct. 16, as required by the U.S. Bankruptcy Code. The company said it lost $5.9 million for the month that ended Sept. 18 and $11.2 million for the month that ended Oct. 16. Interstate, which hasn't made an audited quarterly earnings report since April 15, said it "remains uncertain if and when it will file its delayed annual report" for the fiscal year that ended May 29. Consistent with preliminary unaudited information released Aug. 9, the company reiterated the following preliminary financials for the fiscal year that ended May 29: A net loss of $25.7 million, compared with earnings of $27.5 million in fiscal year 2003. Net sales of $3.46 billion, a 1.7 percent decrease from $3.52 billion in fiscal year 2003. The company said its total sales continued to decrease in the first quarter because of continuing declines in sales of white bread and snack cake items. On the other hand, the company said it got a revenue boost from price increases for its private-label bread and sweet goods and from sales of its new super premium Baker's Inn products. But it's hard to tell what the future holds for the popularity of various baked goods, the company said. New federal dietary guidelines are due out next month, and a preliminary draft recommends that Americans reduce consumption of saturated fat, trans fat and cholesterol. The government also is expected to recommend increased consumption of whole grain products and decreased consumption of refined grain products.

The solution is so simple. Get rid of the good old boys gang and get new people. The good old boys have destroyed the company. Wher is the government investigators? Where is the news media? They need to be exposed.

Well, this is the first time I have ever seen this board, and I am so glad that I am no longer a part of such a nigthmare company like IBC. I was the production manager for the Chicago plant and have been privy to alot of bad stuff. Let me say that it is no wonder (no punn intended) this company is in chapter 11. Years of the good old boy management system has driven this company into bankruptcy, and it should be no suprise that all of the same people have survived the restructure. Maybe the CEO has resigned, but the crappy managers in the corporate ranks remain. I have never been a part of such a sell-out company. The backstabbers and the company men that don't care about people. These plants have been robbed of budget money so the GM's and the department heads can earn their bonuses. Hey, I'm not compaining as I received my bonus, but when you just simply don't build on people, you become a people using company that falls short on resources. Look at the job descriptions they used for the restructure; they were fitted for the existing staff. many of the operation positions didn't require college degrees. What a farse. I have been a baking professional for over 20 years, and this company is a tragedy. I was terminated while I was on FMLA, and there is nothing i can do about it because I am considered an "at-will-employee". What kind of a company does something like this. My family has suffered great losses from this, and I will succeed wherever I am. I am just glad I don't have to look at those imposters like Rich Hobbs, Todd Brown, Gene Murphy, Jerry Kemp, and Matt the jerk HR guy.

Bimbo Bear... Your people mow lawns because they can't live off the Government, because if the Gov't new that they were here, they'd be DEPORTED! You all live under one roof to save money you said??? I think that the money you are saving is not going to buy homes, it is going into things like Rims for your rundown vehicles, try putting on a brake light before spending all that cash on wheels!. I gotta go to work now, cant wait to see the police tape up on Slauson Ave, lets see what Mexican Gang member shot who this week fighting over the land that their parents rent. Got to love the South Central family values. Bimbo, while you and your relitives came to this fine country to work, did you forget to have someone watch your kids? Once again, it is not okay to have your 6 year old watch your 4 year old while you are working. Bimbo, go try being a family advocate for your Walmart generation border baby!! Gotta go the semi is loaded and I got cake to deliver. Sorry about people in other parts of the country, but this is LA, CA the worlds 5th largest economy where people dont mind paying 3.59 for a box of junk food.

NO $10.00 TURKEY LEG GIFT CERTIFICATE? BA HUM BUG I.B.C.

Julie Ann gigi is from Greensboro, N. C.

I know times can be tuff for all of us. Some worse than others, and some just fine. But we all need to try to except what has happen. It's a part of life. Some times we can't change things and some times we can. You know that life is not always fare. So instead of making ourselves miserable, don't let it get the best of you. When something goes wrong, we need time to cool off. I know the ups and downs of Merita. And it's not the same everywhere. But we will continue to live and make it some how. People are really lucky to even have a job. Have you ever hit rock bottom? We should have thanks for what we have, even if it is not alot. We can make it. And if you do the best you can, then you have givin it alot for a person, and that should make you feel good about yourself. ( at least you tried ). I hope this does not jinks me. My husband has always worked 70+ hours a week, complains a little, but does not get anymore that the next guy. He has not had any special treatment, but he works the best he can, and does a honest and good job. That's all we can do, and wish for the best.!

the problem is nobody is watching the kids so the kids are not watching what they are doing , everyone does whatever they please and the supervisors are either sleeping or taking the day off. This has got to be one of the worst runned companies i have ever heard of, workers sit on their butts in the cafe playing cards taking as many breaks as they want and if anyone says anything to them they run to the union guy and yell harrassment , while the supervisors get paid salary for five days of work and only work a couple of hours a couple of nights a week cause their wives need them at home and the other supervisors sit in the office playing or reading never once going on the floors to see whats going on. I say go back to the good old days when you got a raise or a promotion for doing a good job and you got fired for not doing your job, now thats how you save money.. ..

What is happening at the Biddeford bakery? Are you still throwing bread out the back door? How about rolls? I heard cake dept. is throwing alot also? What is the problem there?

Seems tuh me, that we need SOMEBODY at the top that has two big huevos to MAKE DECISIONS, instead of reacting to the tiny little garbage things that are being pointed out by the stoopidfocks (maybe their IQ's are not quite that high) that seem to be running EVERYMOTHERFLOCKINGTHING down into the dirt. Even though we ain't yur head bobboin' college gradiates, we is purty good at runnin' this stuff right if'n yuse boys keep yur dumm idees to yurself. WE CAN NOT MAKE MONEY IF YOU BOYS DON'T FIGURE OUT THAT YOU ARE THE BIGGEST PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE. TALK TO US AND WE WILL TELL YOU, ('cept of course them kiss azzes that just bob their fat heads yes at every stoopid thing you tell them) . Dude, I've been resisting this forum for years cuz it doesn't change a thing. Now that you got me on it...you better be ready for some humor. Whining and crying don't change a thing, most of these "people" in here are part of the problem instead of the answer. Remember? Same to you Ray

Dear Mary , It is with great joy that I read your little but very inspired observations re. T. White. It is very difficult to believe that a company that is having as much difficulty as IBC can retain supervision as _ _ _ _ _ _ up as this nunbnutted A _ _ _H O L E. The man Can redefine the term Incompetent . It is with no small amount of admiration that I salute you . I was also aware of the by now world famous trip to SPAIN & the financial compensations involved. It is enough to make almost anyone VOMIT.[for you Tom if you read this it means PUKE] .I do not work for this company never did & if GOD smiles on me never will. Dear Tom If you want to find me it aint hard . Love Hans

If there is anyone supervisior who needs to be looked at by Alverez it is tom white. What kind of management close (meaning ; can not keep a store open or get more business) and call themselves a competent sup. I thought one had to help business not hurt it, by not over odering for stores( to get a trip from the cookie co.) by not demeaning employees(talking to them as if they were his children although he probably does not speak to his kid this way, smells like an harassment lawsuit)but the best when he pays his daughter to work the whole summer , i didnt know we had outlets in SPAIN!! lets hire some super. that help not steal

somebody needs to take a look at the cost of bob kerns employment verus his contributions

Bye Bye Mark, Jim, Shaun, Smiley, Jerry Jr. and Sr. and Anita oops I forgot Randy.

Bye Bye Mark, Jim, Shaun, Smiley, Jerry Jr. and Sr. and Anita oops I forgot Randy.

Bye Bye Mark, Jim, Shaun, Smiley, Jerry Jr. and Sr. and Anita oops I forgot Randy.

My opinion is that too many Spanish people have taken our jobs away from us Americans. Just look around you and you can see most of them can not even speak english and are not citizens either. I say close the borders and worry about our own people first. Then mabey we would not be closing plants if Americans held these jobs.

Happy Holiday. Management or Union, we all work for the same company. Take care and God bless you all.

Is it true that our Glendale Bakery is sold to Oroweat (AKA Bimbo) along with all our Weber name? We need that Bakery...it is hard enough to get bread now. First San Pedro, now Glendale?

Oh my dear Spudly < Location:Los Angeles, CA (Hostess) > My people mow lawns because they do not want to live off the government and get paid by appearing on La Jerry Springer show. We clean your computer because you wife is too lazy to clean and is being serviced by Julio the pool cleaner. We live temporarly live together to save money to buy a house because we are no content in live in a trailer park. Ah amigo, Walmart is your baby. Look at the Employees, 90% American. Look at the Shoppers...same. You like to appear elitist, because deep down you are trash. You live to play Victim. Your bosses are working hard to help you all keep your jobs. If you hate Walmart so much, tell all your friends, families, and neigbors to stop shopping there. Most Americans are beautiful people. It is you uneducated trash, that are clueless, bigot, lazy, that whine because if they see anyone work, they are a threat. IBC will be stronger than ever. They are just getting rid of dead weight. And I Bimbo Bear and Wonder Freddy Fresh will compete and get better.

12-18- HAS ANYONE HEARD IF ANYMORE THRIFT STORES ARE GOING TO BE CLOSED???????? LAST COUNT I HAD WAS 68 NATIONWIDE????? SURE WOULD BE NICE TO SEE A PROFIT AND LOSS SHEET AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR...........

Bimbo Bear..... You said it brother...NOW..GO tell your son that an education is not nesessary, working that lawnmower is what is important! Oh yeah Bimbo Bear, sharing the rent with your Extended family all under one roof is not family values, it is stupidity, I gotta go, your mother needs to clean the computer desk, she is done in the bathroom! Bimbo, another sorry walmart generation border baby.....

welcome back Buckshot we missed you .How are thing in Billings Business is slow here in Denver some time wonder where this company is going.

Ah, I'm glad our employees are not crybabies like you. They have jello backs, if they complain we shot them. You Americans like to whine and not work. Blame is your game. Even I will not want your company, your attitudes are like cancer, it would spread through my company and bring it down. Do what my workers do...work and not whine. Your bosses should be allowed to whip your back for mistakes. It takes 10 rednecks to do the work of one Mexican. No wonder Kansas City is hurting. Lazy Americans.

They should let Louise run the plant. At least things would get done and nobody would stand around twindiling their thumbs.

Your opinion on too many supervisors is i believe to be valid. Not only supervisors but the upper management also. That is why management has very little to do so they sit around and do what ever they want. Plus they all cover for eachother even if they are right or wrong. They have little or no honor and if this does not change their plans will fail. I see no changes to date that have produced any positive reconstruction values.

I would trade a weeks worth of wages for the bread that wrapping room supervisor HOLLANDSWORTHLESS throws away in one 8 hr shift. With supervision like this we dont need competitors to shut us down, we will die of self inflicted wounds.

Question? How can the engineering dept at 05 justify having 5 supervisors for 17 workers. Question? Why are these god damned idiots (SUPERVISORS) being paid $45,000 - $65,000 anualy when they cant even spell BREAD. Seems to me Alvarez needs to go hunting fox.

Re: Hodgkins, IL You hit the nail on the head. Because of SAP we have already lost some people that were very good at it but after getting your ass chewed out because plant ran out of ingredients or packaging, this job is not worth the stress and pressure to keep things going. I'm out of here after the first of the year. IBC is going to lose a lot of good people that cared. And the pool to draw from is not looking too good for replacements?

The problems of IBC are not just SAP. I hope they are fixable. I hope things get better soon or IBC will lose the people we need to keep going. I watched this smart guy come in here and he was great. There was nothing he couldnt do. If you needed it done and nobody could get it done - he alwaysbfind a way. Then they brought in this SAP and make him a bam. I watch him keep it all moving no matter what happened or how bad things get. He still could do it. Now he tired of fighting the problems of IBC and SAP. He cant help out like before and hedon't like it. I can see how tired he is and Im afraid he going to leave. Hey,if you read this, dont give up, man! We need you. DOnt go.

Why do you not have HECTOR deported? He is mabey an alien from Mexico. Have his ID checked. Then all your problems are solved.

How much does a unioun man cost? How much was Hector?

Damn, YourMomma is on the ball also!I like you guy's . Lets you guys in charge and stick Willie St P. on a route!

Wise up all you people. You all must be stupid. If the management was interested in what you had to say you would know it by the changes that would take place. You are wasteing your breath. No one in upper management looks at these complaints or suggestions. Go and look for a new job that will appreciate you and move on before the good old boys close you down and you will be left with the table scraps.

RE;you know me,those were excellant points you just made,but you forgot aboutto point out the big problem we have company wide. This problem is the mid-level management types.I'm talking about the district mgrs. and the supervisors who have no people skills and try to run their areas with an iron fist.This us vs. them(routesales)mentality.Thus that's where the lawsuits all come from.Yet these people still keep their jobs and positions until the next problem arises.Nobody is going to let their bosses treat them in this manner and let them get away with it.If you treat me like crap,then I'm not going to give you 100%,in fact if it gets really bad I can go see my doctor and take a couple of months off with stress leave.Not everybody does this but some people won't take the bs from mngmt.These guys want to treat people under them like if they were little kids.I've worked for this Co. for over 20 years and can say 99% of routemen do a great job.

It seems the knumb-knutts are on a witch hunt on our cake routes. Sams Clubs are not being served properly! Wal-Marts are not being served properly !You haven?t kept your stupid a** info book up to date! {Who the f*ck came up with that one?} You Are not making your bite numbers! Your not making your Carmel ho-ho numbers! On and on and on. Listen here .You cut the routes so we have to run just to make our time stop on a regular day. Now you have twinty different f*cking sales at the same time . What the f*ck do you think will happen? Yea and you push these bites and Carmel ho-hos and all the shit you look good on ,our you get kick backs on and you force me to cut the things that sell on my route to make room for your ?numbers? Things haven?t changed your still stupid! You keep f*cking with the cake .We have been carrying your a** so you keep it up and run us down and down . Go away !Go play golf and pat your selves on the back on what name for your new program you came up with and let us do our f*cking jobs. Oh and stick those mlt bites up your ass!

You know me. Dude you said it all. Bravo!!!

I have worked for this company for over 28 years. (ABCand IBC) all in management. This business is a very smiple business. You bake a great product. price it right and give the best service in the industry. Whats wrong with our company. The quality is poor and our service stinks. Our competitors are out serving us and baking a much better product. Our breads have low volume, under weight,Key hole sidewalls,buckshot crumb and smell moldy.Our cake taste stale and dry and lack filling. ESL is not the way to bulid sales. Our business was bulid on freshess not on how long the product can stay on the shelf. We continue to pull routes. That's not good for business. How can we expect a Route Saleman to work 3 or 4 chain stores per day and make call backs,sell-in dispays,speak to the store manager and if the poor guy has a Wal-Mart God help him beacuse this poor guy is the walking dead. We builded this company by giving the best service and adding route not cutting routes. I know that there's a cost to the route. Gas,wages.medical,WC etc. Ok where's what we need to do. Cut out the ESL program(it's ok to say it was a Mistake) go back to a 72 hour code on all branded bread and rolls.pull off the market on Monday and Thursday freshen the market. 14 day code is all you need on cake. If it does not sale in 7 days it's not going to sale. ADD BACK THE ROUTES. Let's service the accounts not just drop and run.When business is bad that's when you should have the best product on the market put the right stuff back into the product. This company has been my life,It's been great to me and my family and it hurts to see this Great Company in the shape that we are in today. But if each IBC empolyee would stop asking why and start saying what can I do to fix this company we would all see this Great company back on top. Service/the very best product/Add back routes and discontinue ESL. This is a very simple business. You put it out if does'nt sale you pick it up. That's it.

for the people who hates the unions,go back and check what the unions did for people 30 to 40 years ago. if it was not for the unions we would be worst off than we are. it is not the unions that cause the company to go down, but people who are for there selves and no one else, i hope they catch hell and some even go to jail. when the real truth comes out, what goes around comes around. i know it will be hard for some people that works for ibc but i hope every one has a great christmas.

I read this at lunch every day and the last comment sadly seems to be the most realistic. Fear is a very destructive force and it is bringing out the worst in a lot of people. Greed and selfishness have also been very destructive to this company. I get the impression a lot of factions had wasted a lot of resources to make figures appear a certain way. Baking, shipping and sales staff were made to handle a lot of excess product that would never be sold except as animal feed or given to charity. The higher the position, the more return from this waste, until the "chickens came home to roost" and certain ones jumped the gun, selling too much stock, tipping off the SEC, analysts and stockholders. Let's try to pray for everyone who is a victim of these sorry acts.

All hope is lost. The greedy and overpaid upper management only cares about themselves. Nobody on this earth can remove them from power. It would take god to come down from heaven to do it and that will not happen. We will all be out of jobs soon.

Happy Holidays !!! not sure about a Happy New Year yet lets wait and see

We are closing plant and ready to lay people off but yet the company hired a group of fifty lawyers to help the already stupid ones they have on payroll to handle the Bankruptcy. One bad decision after another.

(Jan 3) Bloody Monday, People will lose their jobs and plants will be closed. sell your stock now. Check out the want ads for employment opportunities. Then never buy IBC products again, oh yea tell your friends and families the same thing

Union bosses and Upper management at KC is to blame for this mess, don't fool yourself. Alvarez and Hutchinson are long time buddies. Elsesser was a moron for listening to the a-hole called the G-9.

They ought to fire the dumb ass that came up with the stress chocolate training. It's all afront for closing plants. Hey Mr. Alvesez I thought you promised to keep us informed. You have became one of the GOOD OLe BOYS at the top too!

Wait til "BLOODY MONDAY" (JAN 3) Thousand will be losing thier jobs because of the imcompetent bastards in charge of this company

Attention DollyHo employees (Dolly Madison Routesalesmen with Hostess management) I need input. Please respond! What has been going on since June 2004? Are standards the same or is there a difference in application to some? Have you lost Shelve space or gained space to Hostess/Wonder? Have you lost special displays or gained special displays to Hostess/Wonder? Is your immediate supervisor a Dolly person or Hostess? How many routes are carrying Dolly and Hostess products on the same truck? How many combo cake/bread routes are out there? Have you heard of a National Rack set which requires Dolly being pulled off End Caps and being replaced with Hostess except for Zingers? Are your Dolly Sales up or down compared to last year? Do you know if Hostess sales are up or down to last year? Have you (Dolly) lost people either mangers or salesmen since June? Has Hostess/Wonder lost people? Are we One Company or are we Three Dolly, Hostess, and Bread?

CAN WE LEARN FROM THE PAST?? Product quality is dropping again. Remember when Dolly Madison 2- pack cinnamon rolls were in the top 10 best selling items for vending companies? It was just 7 years ago, then what happen we let Hostess have it and then the formula was changed. Now we do not even sell 30% of what we use too. Take a look at the Dolly 3-pack raspberry zingers they are soon to follow. Lets go back to making something good in appearance and taste, not cheap and easy to make.

This company (IBC) will never survive unless mangement accepts the fact that our customers want service not competion between two sub-companies. Mr Sullivan next time you vist a area you should talk to both Hostess and Dolly to see and hear the truth. The truth is we can not be one company. I do not care how many labels we have stick to the basics a shelve with cake on it; therefore, a happy customer and a happy route salesman making a good living. Let the Bread people do their thing and cake do its. TWO COMPANIES BREAD AND CAKE with seperate mangement and seperate sales figures.

Just for all of you out there who really want to know the truth about the problems with IBC, here it is summed up for you in three words- Poor Management. It is absolutely ridiculous how much money the upper management of this company are making. IBC goes bankrupt, and what do they do, keep on paying these outrageous wages to the upper echelons. The hard workers of this company are the people that are suffering. If the company would pay a little more, maybe that would be an incentive for all of the laborers of the company to sell more product. If the employees sell more, then IBC makes more. It is common sense.

Instead of working so much overtime why can't we get some help? I do know we have had alot that quit this year and management is why. If these guys are sweating their jobs why do management take it out on us? Were the ones working all the damn overtime for them. They can laugh this off but come January half the management staff is gettig cut, just ask Kansas City.