Just trying again, posted yesterday, but it didn't show up, is this site monitored????? HR in Henderson got it's second hit Tuesday. Shame she was a friend it was soooo retailitory. Other HR just couldn't handle the incompetence and hostile work environment. Other issues. Those guys are working their butts off, it's management that needs to learn they're not training dogs.

ALL YOU PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA SHOULD GET A LIFE. TO BAD A EARTHQUAKE DOESN"T PUT YOU IN THE OCEAN.

SOAR came and went. As of June 30th nothing has changed except mgmnt has been moved around to look as if we have a new look. Same old trucks,same old equip., same old decsions, same old same old.This soap opera should be named "AS WE CIRCLE THE DRAIN"

A comment to the response below: Hey you're right about that. The guy strolls in late, leaves early, takes a long lunch and spends all of his time on AOL, but he delegates well. He certainly deserves to be promoted. What a joke! Same old story, it's not what you know it's who you know. That's O.K. They're getting ready to lose all of their hard-working top performers because of it. One is gone Friday and soon many to follow. "I'm a former IBC employee, but now I am an Accenture employee. I thought things would get better. Nope, same old "boys club" type atmosphere. There's this Eddie guy, comes in late, plays around on the interenet all day, basically has minimal responsibilities and I'm pretty sure his boss is going to promote him. I tink they have some kind of history. Really makes his boss look bad and lose repsect from all other employees because everyone else knows what's been going how and how worthless he is. You know what they say, when the "Fox" is away everyone will play. Get it."

To: rsr in Oakland, It's actually illegal for the personal infomation that is printed on a paycheck to be seen by anyone other than the employee after the check has been processed. But as most know IBC doesn't give a shit about your personal infomation being seen by anyone. My thought is that they do it to either A. Save money on envelopes or B. Create problems between employees by allowing them to see what a person makes each week or C. They want to encourage Identiy theft by sharing Social Security numbers. Think about the risk IBC puts you in by allowing your checks to be seen by everyone. Your check has your name, your address, your ytd wages and the ever so important Social Security number.

Hey Dead Puke..........Your an "IDIOT" Are you management?? The higher ups at IBC "DO" read this website...DAILY!

That part was bracketted by /quote/ indicating I was quoting Rodney (the poster right before me. The rest was my response

You need to get a life this is NOT a IBC web page so none of your comments get read by anyone but all the lossers that put them on here. That is an incorrect statement Red Duke

Hey Rodney. Check your spelling. It is full of errors. Your education level must be around 5th grade. How can we take your advice if you have no brains? Go back to school and learn how to spell,and then post your comments. Someone then may listen.

/quote/ To all of you out there You need to get a life this is NOT a IBC web page so none of your comments get read by anyone but all the lossers that put them on here./quote/ And yet, YOU read this and You posted. And it is LOSERS not LOSSERS. Thanks, your post made me chuckle almost as much as the venerable Mr Clarckson. On another note, posting that if people do not like their wages, working conditions they should quit is just childish, this nationwide corporation which has a long track record of the grand stategy of "WHAT ARE TODAY'S NUMBERS?!! WORRY ABOUT TOMORROW IF THERE IS A TOMORROW THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW!!!!" again showed its failure to think long term by not registering the domain names this site operates under. Thus employees are free to post without fear of punitive action being taken upon them by management, and some of us excercise that right, while others (such as myself) check here every few days and get a laugh out of stupid, (or in your case) flagrant hipocracy in a post.

what is like to have your paycheck read by everyone in the depot/bakery? our paychecks are sitting out on the sup's desk in plain view for anyone to look at. how would you feel if someone at your plant was able to see your wages & more importantly your SS#? for three years i've complained...go figure.

LA HOSTESS AND DOLLY MADISON could you tell me the top five hostess and dolly madison snack cakes you sell in LA

the newest and best, the big meeting occured but no one could tell us how the bonuses work and what your targets or budgets are?the only thing that was said was that if you were close to making your numbers then the pc staff would smile and if not i quess they would frown! this is gospel and is stupid as this seems it will probably get worse. they just spent $30,000 in the office to have cubicles for the 5 employees, we have no trucks and can't buy uniform but we have a nice office. ted, daria and marshall make a HELL of a threesome. cooking the books is simple for them, everyone knows it including the pc people. it's a same but it's almost over for buffalo, and not because of sales but because of dishonesty in upper management. phase 2 deenis the misfit get's promoted to super.

the newest and best, the big meeting occured but no one could tell us how the bonuses work and what your targets or budgets are?the only thing that was said was that if you were close to making your numbers then the pc staff would smile and if not i quess they would frown! this is gospel and is stupid as this seems it will probably get worse. they just spent $30,000 in the office to have cubicles for the 5 employees, we have no trucks and can't buy uniform but we have a nice office. ted, daria and marshall make a HELL of a threesome. cooking the books is simple for them, everyone knows it including the pc people. it's a same but it's almost over for buffalo, and not because of sales but because of dishonesty in upper management. phase 2 deenis the misfit get's promoted to super.

bimbo , you are a poor attempt at humor at best . More then likely your just a moron with nothing better to do . GO BACK TO MEXICO.

HELLO BILLINGS PLANT. I HOPE YOU MAKE IT BECAUSE YOU ARE GOOD PEOPLE.EXCEPT A FEW IN MANAGEMENT.SOME DAY THEY WILL BE JUDGED.

Anyone knows how the new Bakers-Inn is doing? I wonder if they'll come up with something similar for dogs and hams?

In my own words. The baking industry isn't what it used to be 10-20 years ago.We can complain about poor quality products,bad management,no overtime,too much overtime,days off,salesmen and route drivers.The fact is the baking industry is going down REAL HARD no matter what anyone says.So if you have 5 years or less to retire then stick it out.I see alot of bakeries closing in years to come,don't be stupid and think your job will be there for the next 20 years. IT WON'T but if your lucky it will but for a few dollars more then minimum wage. Example: you and your fellow empolyees just got a 30 day notice that your plant is going to close. What are YOU going to do?????

i went to www.ibc.com to redeem my ibc dough and cant find out where to type in the program name "Unlock The Potential"

Hey Hostess in cailf, Did you notice Svenhards is back to work today? The deal was set up that svenhards was going to be drop shipment. Until the union stepped in. They are under a Collective Bargaining Agreement for 2 more years, Anyone who buys them has to honor that agreement. Therefore the deal is a no go.

To Henderson, If you don't like the wage QUIT!! The quality of product coming out of your plant reflects your attitude...It sucks!!! We need people who can 100%. You knew and accepted the wage when you agreed to show up for work. Granted the Company is now paying the price because of the high turnover at the Henderson plant. The Quality is terrible day in and day out! We try and sell this crap in So Cal and our sales are reflecting it!

I LIKE TO KNOW WHATS UP WITH THIS DAM COMPANY.I'M TIRED OF HEARING IT'S A RIGHT TO WORK STATE.I HEAR ALL OTHER PLANTS ARE UP THERE WHEN IT COMES TO WAGES.EXSPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO CAL.MACHINE OPERATORS MAKE ANY WERE TO 15.00hr and up IN THE HENDERSON BAKERY WE MAKE 10.00 AND UP AND DO A HELL OF ALOT MORE THEN ANYONE I'M TIRED OF HEARING COST OF LIVING IS HIGHER THERE.HELL IT'S HIGH NO MATTER WERE YOU LIVE.WE WERE SCREWED WHEN THIS UNION CAME IN.5 YEAR CONTRACT WITH A QUARTER RISE WOW.YOU DON"T SEE IT IN YOUR PAY CHECK.YOU WORK LIKE DOGS 10 +12 HOURS A DAYS,AND THEY SAY THE COMPANY NOT MAKING ANY MONEY,BULLS#IT,THE ONLY ONES MAKING THE MONEY IS WHITE HATS.PEOPLE NEED TO GET OF THERE ASS AND SEE WHAT WE DO.THANK YOU

All these comments are just too much for the good old boys to read. They are so busy living high on the hogs they do not have the time to read or answer any of your comments.

IBC is really screwing us on our vacation/holiday time!!!!!! anyone else having this problem or just in nc???

When is the sale of the Billings plant final ?Will they be union ?

who is the expert on SAp at Pomona? I have a few questions to ask?? Any one at pomona reads this message ,please let us know.

NEWS FLASH BILLINGS PLANT ON VERGE OF BEING SOLD AND EMPLOYEES HAVING TO REPLY FOR JOBS.

Well my SS number and 85 cents can get you a cup of coffe at the local McDonalds. Although I'd rather see you spend it at the local Hostess thrift store. While you're in there get a muffin or a donut to help out the carb business. Plant 51 like many other of the IBC clan is not without problems. Davenport Iowa, Cincy, Miami, who knows who will be next. After the strike hit a year ago and we all got the pay increases/medical benefits deserved to all union members Elsessor announced changes would have to be made. Heard this week the Bagel operation in Wisconsin was shut down. Has anyone else heard this??? Steve in Columbus

I hear charlie is going to st louis that is the best news we could get.Good luck st.louis. isn't it a shame any comments we get are negitive they sure don't believe in employee moral it is at a all time low.They need to start rethinking about how they treat their outlet employees and the route drivers or soon they won't have any long term employees.

SAP it only works if the data you put into the system is true not made up numbers to hide scrap and cripples and packaging loss ........thats only a small part of sap. I think it ties your shoes also and makes a hell of a cup of coffee.................................

Have any one read any soar news lately?? How was the sap program working?

if you have enough money to invest in the same stock as the board you might comeout ok they are getting theres at our exspence they dont care about product anymore and they dont care about employees if they did we wouldnt be soaring down the drain

from a svenhards driver they were told at 4:00 am friday morning

I believe the reason that the pay day has changed to friday is so the company can use our money until monday. Also upper managment should have to come to a thrift store and work for two weeks so they know what it is to work.

Whats up with the union contract ?Any news at all the western Montana route people would like to know. Any truth to the rumors that the plant will be sold

Millbrook where did you hear that from?

was told today that svenhards will be put on the hostess trucks in sountern calif,and they are going to dovetail them in,is this going to bump ibc hostess drivers?

Bimbo White Bear does your sister or mother work at the Adelita Bar in TJ ???

Hey Ron, as one of the IBC senior managers who monitor this site, I admire your passon and appreciate you trying to help. But you are going to have to learn how to spell if you are going to knock the other posters. The correct spelling is cheap, not cheep. You are hurting our cause with your lack of education as it demeans our endeavors to have this site taken down.

BIMBO COULD NOT BUY US , WE ARE NOT FOR SELL MORONS . BESIDES THEY DON'T SELL QUALITIY . THEY SELL CRAP. THOSE OF YOU CRYING ABOUT OUR GREAT COMPANY ARE THE PROBLEM. SO DO US ALL A FAVOR AND LEAVE. GO GET ON WELFARE LOSERS. P.S. BIMBO WHITE BEAR what kind of fool are you . BIMBO MEANS CHEEP. STUPID

Local 190 doesn,t need losers like you two whiners

I agree with this and I am also a member of local 190

Like I said before the teamsters union local 190 is under VERY WEAK LEADERSHIP it appears that there will not be another union contract with Interstate Brands. The local knows this the Billings plant will be sold or closed .The teamsters union is weak from the top down they only care that the members pay their dues and keep thier mouth shut. Ray and his croines are only worried about them selves and cashing their big bloated paychecks and eating expensive meals at the expense of the rank and file .When was the last time a union officer came around to the job site and took an intrest in what the rank and file had to say.We pay their wages with our due money.They work for us we donot work for them they forgot who the rank and file are .Teamsters local 190 is worthless they do nothing for the rank and file it appears they are more intrested in have a cozy realtionship wiith the EMPLOYER then the members of the rank and file .Next time you have the union dues taken out of your check ask yourself if you are really getting any thing for your money.

The kingmisser is the best. .warehouseman in the Billings plant. He gives 120 % all the time. I have learned alot from him.

Who ever you are slamming Local 190 you must not have any balls. To be a good teamster must be a team player. You sound like a little kid who runs to mama all the time. Granted the little Hitler who runs truck shop,can be stopped if you do it thru the right channels. But to do that you better have evidence and documentation on that SOB.

Hey White bendayhomzz Get a clue , your company is like your country , A STINKING MESS !! As we speak they are trying to sell Earthgrains, Oraweat or whatever you call it in T.J.. I suggest you move out of your glass house before you throw another stone . I listen to your people all day long bitch and moan about Bimbo . Your shit stinks just as bad as everyone else's ,so don't kid yourself . Remember this Homz, when you get to the top there is nowhere to go but down....And when you get there "don't drink the water "....

Rumors are that the Company may be sold to the White Castle Hamburger Chain? Anyone hear any other rumors?

Greetings From Plant 51 Columbus, Indiana Looks like I must have missed out on some fun... My phone is not ringing and the individuals that slander still don't have the nerve/balls to state their name are still writing in. Cowards turn and run, (or post false information) those willing to go forward always will. I've got better things to do than chat with the imature. There are many hard working IBC employees that care about their job and the product they produce. From the fork lift driver in receiving, to the mixer operator, or the wrapping person, a shipping order puller, sanitation, maintenance, drivers that deliver to the clerk in the thrift store. If you hate your job the product you produce go elsewhere. Otherwise stand up for change. Stand accountable for your remarks. I understand some people in Billings not wanting to state their name for fear of retribution. But to say everything we produce is junk and refusing to state your name is offensive. That is an insult to all the IBC union workers. Steve in Columbus

Does anyone know about what happened in Kansas City (the district management?) It looks like the company really screwed up and got rid of the best managers around and kept two district men just to get their EEO quota. Any news in any other parts of the country?

John Doe........Good for you! consider it a blessing they closed Pedro. Bimbo will take care of you and your still Union.

Diana Gonzalez is doing more harn than good. She needs to "LEAVE".

The 12th is gone and so is our contract in transport. This really F@!$##@ sucks. No word from the company or the union. Damn health insurance is out of control, dues are going up, can't afford to put a tank of gas in my car. IBC, I hope you rot in hell along with local 190. You refuse to work with your employees so your employees will refuse to work with you. Suck it!!!!

The policy olny works if you are part of the good ol boys club. Ask the pomona Hr and upper mgmt if you were to bring a blow up doll to work what would happen to you as a union EMPLOYEE, But as a mgt person you can bring this to work and give it to your opp manager and no harm great hr do what your told and we can break all the rules its true ask the pomona people

All Management Has A Sales Meeting Tomorrow. We Were Told It Is To Find Out Who We Will Be Working For. The Sale Of The Company May Be Going Down.

I am an ex employee of ibc my plant was closed do you think their was help for the union workers there yor Hr dept sucks 22 years of my life wasted for these morrons who try to put out good product I am know Employed by bimbo usa and I make more money than i could at ibc yes we are a union shop lcoal 37 stop your crying and get out while the getting good .bakers inn with 30 % return is going to save you and the 15 second air time it got go wal-mart

Hey Steve, thanks for posting your number on this very secure site. But I'm not really convinced even after a 3 am phone call to you so I would like to respectfully ask you to post your social security number. Since IBC doesn't feel the need to protect this private information I'm sure it won't be a problem for you. (How do you get your paycheck??? in an envelope with a bunch of other guys clearly showing SS#) Once I have that I won't need your credit card number cuz I'll be able to get a credit card of my own...in your name of course. ARE YOU A FREAKING IDIOT POSTING YOUR NAME AND PHONE NUMBER???? I think so. Talk to you tomorrow...early

FACE IT PEOPLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its time to quit, and go work for the local WALMART soon .....

RE: Steve Clarkson I can't believe he actually put all of that up. Wonder how many calls he gets, with free long distance on most cell plans. (pssst) Steve, you might want to change that phone number sometime soon. But thanks, your naivete on this board made me laugh. Adding a number to my speed dial.

If Bimbo CA is union that doesn't mean the pay rate stays the same does it ? Look at Henderson NV $13.25 an hour SORRY that's if you have bakery experience $9.25 an hour.Why cause that's all our union could fight for. Wow!!! I heard people are kicking down the doors of Henderson. So if Bimbo buys out IBC what do you think will happen? Our union contract ends after the sale of the company and our pay rate will eventually change. Go BCTGM !! Joe M. What Up!!

Hello Bob or anyone in the Pomona, CA Bakery. Could you post me information about your chain of command in Pomona, who is top management up there in Pomona Ca.

Well Watcher you've done proved yourself the imbecile. Besides being ball-less and not willing to state you name and plant, you claim to have 35 years in. With most of our plants having golden 80 retirement you should have taken you simple mind out to be a greeter at WalMart. Steve in Indiana IBC 51

heard rumor that the assistant hr lady got canned this weekend...seems she new something that wasnt supposed to get around,anybody heard any news?

Is Deb still the Hr director in Billings .Did she have to reapply for her job Don't Randy and Deb seem nervous when upper management is here.Deb and Randy are both in way over their heads and should be dismissed the only assest they have is that they both know how to suck up and brownnose upper management their day will come but not soon enough for the way they have treated employess at the plant our only hope is the plant would be sold and they would be let go.Randy you should spend more time in the bar . telling your self how great you are you have a very large EGO of your self. Deb do you treat your dogs like you do the employees around here.

Just found an interesting web site . It came from a November 2003 Milling and Baking news site. Shows a map of USA and which bakeries have been closed from 2001-2003 Bimbo shuttered two. IBC we all know about but the interesting one is Saralee. After buying out Earthgrains they closed TEN of their plants. I wouldn't count on Saralee.

Well, Watcher at least you can partly read. As I've stated, yes there are quality problems. You come on here basically saying that everything going out is crap. That to me is an insult against the union workers that produce, package and ship our product. This product is what makes our paycheck. You come on here telling a consumer we have nothing worth buying. We have over 400 employees in our plant. Some have the attitude of screw it they're only donuts. But the vast majority of union workers care about their job and what they do. It at times is not glorious, but it is better than pumping gas or stuffing shells at Taco Bell and we have decent health insurance. If you have gripes & complaints with managers put them out here. I'd like to hear it. To attack the union workers that produce the product makes you nothing better than scab labor. Drop the mast if you dare Watcher. State your name & plant. Stand up for your comments or stand down and retreat. That's all I have to say to a coward. Steve Clarkson IBC plant 51

I have been an employee of IBC for four years now. I have only one complaint, but is is a big one. PAYROLL!! I work hard for this company so that when I go on vacation I can relax and enjoy myself. At least three times in the last four years I have had to leave for vacation without my vacation check. This week I was not able to do what I had been planning be cause my vacation check was not issued. So I am sitting at home with nothing to do but complain to this website. Two years ago I worked Christmas and Newyears days as a favour due to a shortage of personel. It took 3 grievences and 7 weeks to finally get paid for my overtime. About 30% of my paychecks have a mistake on them, so I don't get the money I worked so hard for until 2-3 weeks have passed. When I think of our Payroll department I picture an overworked feebleminded old person with an abacus.

Well what do you know, IBC Watcher finally got the nerve to answer back. Well, to that the individual deserves some form of credit. But the credit is taken back due to the lack of respect to IBC workers everywhere. To tell the general public on a bulletin board of this nature that IBC is out to screw you is a farce. They might be out to screw us the union workers, but if too many customers get screwed you're out business. Not once have I ever stated that every loaf of bread, box of donuts of bag of mini-crullers going out the door is perfect. Problems abound with the new ESL program. If you only had a brain.... You would be able to rationally understand supply/demand. Not to mention the fact that more people complain than praise. You probably never finished high school. Why I'd be willing to bet you still like being bounced on your uncle's knee. Gee what kind of lolly pop do you suck on??? As it is I'd say you know little about the inside of a union bakery. Sanitation cleans toilets. Go flush yourself. Steve plant 51 IBC Watcher still has not stated if he/she is a present or past employee of IBC. In any case the individual sure doesn't posess the mental capacity to do anything but make idle threats and snied remarks.

sean stop throwing dough balls, and get back to work. your the problem theres no work getting done.

question for the experts--when the millbrook routes get cut and a routeman with 10 years gets bumped to vacation relief,will he be able to cross union lines to bump a junior route driver with only 3 years with the company,if not this is a major law suit,in this case union lines should not be used...

Change is coming and Butternut Bread thinks it will not change for them. Boy are they living in the dark age. They will SOAR like the rest of us. This means cuts just like everyone else at 1IBC. Wake up Butternut Bread!!!!!!!!!!!!

shawn your the man

Bimbo that sounds like our HR manager.

BIMBO "IS" UNION IN CALIFORNIA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bimbo White Bear are you a retard?? Bimbo is non union,I hope you're happy making $10.00 an hour.If Bimbo buys out IBC then we are all doomed !!!! Same crappy job and lower wages F*CK THAT!!! I remember Bimbo the clown and if Bimbo Bakery buys out IBC THEN YOU ARE A DUM ASS CLOWN FOR STICKING AROUND!!!!!

Hello to ALL IBC Employees We need everyone to write in what is going on at your plant. Not necessary to state your name. Let everyone in the company know if your contract is about up. Rumors can scare more than help. What is really going on??? Billings so I understand is about to have it's contract come up, is that so? Lot's of questions from transport people in California. I've seen notes from individuals in Cincy and Iowa concerned for their jobs... Here in Columbus, Indiana we also question the future. No one knows for sure where Program SOAR's axe will fall. I wrote before asking what was going on in Denver. Food Eng'r magazine said IBC had a new facility expansion going on in Spring 2003 Now is the time for all of us to send in FACTUAL info. White Bear BIMBO or who ever you are can go pimp yourself. bimbo corp is in financial trouble. Saralee just shut down some of their offshore womens apparel shops. Per CBS money watch it will give them a major cash flow in 45 days... Think about that. Flowers is saying they will start on a new facility every 18 months for the next 5 years. We all need to know what is going on where. Steve in Columbus, Indiana

shawn you are the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To Bimbo white bear: Bimbo is not the only biggest in mexico its the biggest in the world youd know that if you were a real Bimbo employee......You no nothing!!! nothing. Sheez

I have been with IBC a year now.There are good points to it and bad points. Yes Deb and Randy can be difficult at times, but as I am watched by them , so are they by someone over them. I make a decent wage for whats asked of me. Do I want more , of course I do. Do I think the company is falling apart, in alot of areas , yes I do. What as drivers can we do , only our jobs. I will be the first to say I dont think Randy is right for this job. Not many of us drivers like him or even have respect for him. If the company does go out of buisness , I am guaranteed work across the U.S. . How many other people that work for IBC, aside from transportation , can drive down the street and go to work for another company. In the same field of work they performed for IBC. I have been with major companies that have went out of buisness. We are seeing the first steps of it now for our plant. Lack of confidence and people not showing up for work will cripple us. Things to think about.

does anybody no if there is a site like this one for the other Bread companys or is this the only one

Sure nice to see some changes coming to the Billings Plant hope upper management deals with some of the problems we have with Deb in HR she has allowed this plant to be run out of hand for too long she needs to go.

yeah i heard same thing about Billings having a decent work force then i come here and i see more complaining and whimpering from those hicks than any other plant this company has..."Billings were men are men and the sheep are nervous" makes a better description.

Well we are finally getting people to put names up . It's about time. By requsting someone to post a photo is saying that you fear an individual may not be using their real name. If I were slamming people and product as many on here are doing it would be great challenge in such a way. OK, fine in some cases we've had some bad management. Happens in every company. But to get an IDIOT like good ol' "IBC WATCHER" make a stupid remark about our product which if you do not remember makes out paycheck . No one has heard me stand up for any particular white hat. At our plant we've got some that waste perfectly good breathable air. You will not see me giving cheers to the board of directors. We all know what has happened there. Makes Martha Stewart look like a kid in a candy store putting jelly beans in her pocket. I've seen you post your name on here before Tom, good to see someone else not afraid to post a real name. Why would suggest that I am a liar by asking me to post a photo. Besides I'm not sure it could be done on here or you yourself would already have posted your own photo. Am I right??? Steve Clarkson plant 51 IBC maintenance mechanic union member 8 years

STEVE POST YOUR FACE WITH YOUR NAME.

Greetings to Anonymous in the mighty KC and IB Free in Billings Big Sky I'm not sitting here standing up for the people with their names on our checks. Like I said some of them have the anal/cranal inversion thing going. What I have a problem with is an IDIOT like "IBC WATCHER" writing in and slamming our product and then not having the balls to sign their real name to it. To Billings, no I do not know what it is like to deal with your management. May be very much different than what we have here. To the might KC you sure don't know much about me. I've done my share of pissing off the managers. There you have it . Oh, I guess you two are afraid to list your real names like so many others. Steve in Indiana plant 51

its way too hot in this plant

its too hot in this bakery and some employees are treated better than others. there is too much play and not enough work.

Big Steve I think you may be promoted on Monday . Way to go big guy !!!! Dude is that chocolate pie filling on your nose or what ?????

To Steve Clarkson of Indiana., I am just one of those IBC employee who work hard all day to earn what I deserve. But that doen't mean that I have to Kiss management'........... by saying somethiing nice about them and then posted my name on this message board. .

get an order form from your branch manager to redeem your ibc dough or do it on line.takes about 7to 10 days to get your gift cards.there is a fax # you seed it to.

Interstate brands finally did some right they Fired leisure suit Larry today its long over due Maybe it does help to post messages on this board.

To: Steve Clarkson in Indiana---finally someone who stands up for the guy who signs our checks we step up and accept every week. I admire you Steve for having guts to put it back to the whiners and complainers who probably don't do the job they accept the pay for each week. I'm not sure what goes on in Billings, but they all still have jobs that pay quite a b it more than they could earn elsewhere or they would have bailed out a long time ago. Just a bunch of sissy's that don't have a life....I have noticed they don't rank on Deb or Randy anymore?

In response to "IBC Watcher" What makes you an expert on IBC products or the company itself??? IBC thrift store are stacked on top of each other just like our bake shops. When IBC bought/merged with CBG They did not close anything down. Now everyhere you've got a Walmart cutting prices on everthing. The whole concept of a Thrift store is to save money. (hence the name thrift) You can now buy you toilet paper shoes, bread and gas all in the same place. People no longer go to grocery store, then a gas station, followed by a pharmacy. Thrift store are almost a thing of the past. Yes, there have been problems at hand in the whole extended shelf life deal. Then again Edison's light bulb work perfect at first? Bell's phone? What about the the Model T. You sound like on of the typical lazy shop workers that will not get off your duff to save your own job. Probably the only thing that has kept you as a IBC employee (if you are one) is the union. Crack pots like you seldom keep a job in real life. Typical of people to complain about any product. Seldom do people write accolades about a thing in life as simple as a loaf of bread or a twinkie. Do you compliment the girl /guy at the bank or gas station? Should you be an IBC worker start doing *YOUR* job as we ALL should be doing and our company is better off. If you are not an IBC employee you do not know what it is like to stand for 8-12 hours a day in heat and humidity in a REAL bakery. Sweat running down your back. Working over the top of a 375 degree fryer bigger than your car or crawling inside of a 400 degree oven to put a rack back on that's jammed. Shoving racks of product around trying to get the right trays of product for your quota. Trying to wash down a conveyor and clean up in less time than usual because production is coming in 3 hours early. Stacking cake product in front of you coming faster that you can possibly count. All the while trying to watch for a pie or cookie that doesn't look quite right? Can you look at a Hostess pie and tell if it has filling inside with out breaking it open? When they come at you at the rate of 100 per minute? No, IBC is not perfect. Yes it does seem at times our management has cranal/anal inversion. Then again there has only been one perfect Person to walk on earth. He died for us in a most horrible way. I appreciate His work. If you are an IBC employee, start doing your job. If not grow up. Steve Clarkson maintence mechanic Plant 51 Columbus Indiana If you dare put your reaking name out so we can all know who you are!

Please forgive us for the idiot cutting you Billings people.He is one of our kiss ass jerks.

One thing we have that you don't have in Lakewood is class!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why does a company fire their employees who have injured theirselves on the job?Why does the same company refuses to supply an employee with ppe's?

More law suits are in the works. They better hurry up before the company runs out of money.

Billings Anonymous---You don't have a pot to piss in little own a bridge to sell. Wonder Hostess will be sold to either Sara Lee or Bimbo. They both have shown interest for the white bread category and the Hostess line. You people on the other hand, will be out of work because you are just a bunch of whiners and losers. Good Ridance to bad rubbish.

say jamica ny why the metal racks club bakers rys?

Why if routes are being cut is IBC advertising for drivers in Glendale,CA

I have to much overtime at this plant.

class action lawsuit possibilty on their mind?????

why did they delay the millbrook route cuts until july,do they even know what they want to do?from all you experts out there how many years do you need to keep your millbrook route?

Why the holdup in annoucing the new positions for cake and bread? This company really knows how to F_ _ _ with a persons life.

Svenhards pastry will be distributed by Svenhards company employees in Northern California. I talked with a union rep. on Monday, He said if any other company distributed their product in Northern Cal, they would picked Svenhards and the other company.

Svenhards pastry will be distributed by Svenhards company employees in Northern California. I talked with a union rep. on Monday, He said if any other company distributed their product in Northern Cal, they would picked Svenhards and the other company.

Twinkie, You have got it EXACTLY right!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lakewood still working I have a bridge in califorina I would like to sell you . this company stock is worthless . This company will be gone in six months start looking for a new job.Sounds like you would be a good walmart employee.

Check the YaHoo web site message board. Click on the finance icon and enter IBC to go to the stock market page. Then click on the message board. Very interesting opinions and mabey some real facts on company and plant status. It looks very bad for IBC.

kafoure sent out e-mails to all pc's, put the original orders of bakers inn back on. i knew he was not well adjusted but this surely takes the cake. bake it, take it out, bring it back and toss it out. we need joe signore back, these ibc misfits have been in the midwest to long. so you wasted 4 million dollars for packaging equipment to put the crappy loaf of bread in a paper bag, that is almost worse that changing the drake formula in a market of 75 million people. the packaging that bill mackin purchased for that dilly is still sitting in wayne. now remember this is the guy that is putting those grease layden donut holes in boxes and introducing them as a new product. bob you have a great crew, fisher who is 100% useless and mackin who is clueless? i know your excuse is your from dolly!!!

Billings Management---We are in trouble because of employees like you have that are not sales people, but complainers. You people ned to get a life and start selling. When the jobs became available all the complainers raised their hands. Put your hands down Billings and go away. Your attitudes will sink this company. The good thing would be to get away from IBC and Wonder and Hostess would be profitable again.

To Solve IBC's problems are very simple. #1 TAKE OUT WHAT SELLS #2 STOP THE PLUSES #3 GET RID OF USELESS MANAGEMENT (50% at least) #4 GET RID OF ALL BONUS CHECKS FOR TOP LEVEL SALES MANAGERS #5 LET THE BAKERS BAKE, AND THE SALES REPS SELL. LETS US DO OUR JOB, AND STOP TRYING TO DO IT FOR US WITH STALE!!!!!!!!!!!

To claim your IBC DOUGH go here.... www.ibcdough.com type, unlock the potential in the box to gain access to the site.

they will be cutting 40+millbrook routes in the next few weeks.

Hey Lakewood, Words from Billings Management , Lakewood Bakery is a "Wind Tunnel" sucking in a whopping 250 Million a year to operate. You and Denver are costing IBC all of the money . Vegas is not doing that well either. With Bakeries like yours and Denver , no wonder why we are in ruins.

anything new on millbrook/wonder route cuts in california?????

woops

bakers inn 2/500 next week

At least us hillbillies know how to take care of business and not stick our head up somebody's ass. We are very proud of our employees but not management team we have now.

Billings--P.S. You are still a dumb ass hillbilly---

Billings---Don't be such a Doom And Gloom Dude. Our stock has fallen to JUNK BOND status before. IBC has too much investment to just shut down. Our new CEO was hired to make us profitable--period---just like his last three positions---then they sell us to someone with $$$$, it will be a good thing Huh? You people need to hold things down up there all bull shit aside. They will buy all Wonder and Hostess routes anyway. What are you guys? Sweetheart or what? I have been 15 years on a route and sure as hell would like to retire someday. Just because I can spell, I'm Management?????

Buckshot what up in Billings sound like you guys have it a little rough. Have you settled your union contract yet? Think the company will manke it does'nt look good what do you think

Lakewood you sound like some management asshole the way you post on this board . If things are so good why has the stock fallen to 10.00 dollars per share its just a matter of time before this company is broke.Like I said before you must be in management because your thinking stinks.

Great looking,Great Tasting products

Take a look at the YaHoo finance stock market message board. Very interesting opinions from the stock holders and then some. Outlook seems very bad for all.

I like the name Sara

As of this afternoon IBC stock is down to 10.00 flat. I forsee a major take over or sell out so you better watch out because the future doesn't look bright.

regarding Svenhards... Rainbo will be delivering their products in northern calif.... no word on south.calif. at this point.

Hey lakewood you'd better watch out for the finger, sounds like the kind of guy you are

Hey lakewood you'd better watch out for the finger, sounds like the kind of guy you are

Hey lakewood you'd better watch out for the finger, sounds like the kind of guy you are

In answer to many questions about how many routes that will be cut---Every Division Mgr. will have at least 10 routes--Each route will average at least $6,500 per week. This will be the standard that will have to be met period. If you don't run $6,500 LOOK OUT, HERE IT COMES!!!!

Hey M-o-o-on-n-n-t-t-ta-a-an-n-a! You are so wrong cowboy. They will just shut down Billings like they have a lot of other plants and then bye bye to your jobs and not to mention the crying. And we heard you Billings boys were a tough bunch. Don't bend over buddy, you could get the fickle finger.

Hey Lakewierd Hold on , you are not ammune to the disease that is running wild through this company . When we fall , you fall , so brace yourself , the worst is yet to come . Our division has great #'s too , but the rest of the district is on it's ass, i know what that means , you on the other hand do not. So before you go patting yourself on the back , remember this , You are a pimple on the ass of life, and when the rest of the company goes belly up , Happyville goes with it , now you know whuzz up.

We have 5 battleships of Bakers Inn at our depot . They keep sending it and sending it !!!!! Please make them stop !!!!!!!!! Pleeeeezzz

Today i ran 2 hours of overtime , picked up 300 dollars in stale , i have 300 dollars truck stock and cut my Saturday order in half . Tell me i'm not a team player !!!!! I am so looking forward to a year of unemployment............See you in the line....................................

Billings---Everything is great in Lakewood! Loads are on time, we get what we order, HR people are fantastic---Management isn't on drugs or are drunks, transportation is happy, Whazzup in Billings?

What's going on in Denver Colorado??? Food Engineering magazine Says IBC started expansion/construction of a new plant in the Rocky Mountains does anyone know about this???

Hey Lakewood you might be losing your job. Stock just dropped to 10.08. At least Billings is better thenLakewood.

Anonymous in Billings--We all have jobs in Lakewood--Life is good--The best thing this company could do is shut down Billings if everyone is as STUPID as you are. Sometimes when you talk about it enough--it will come to pass. Hooray for Deb and Randy they have a big job getting rid of IDIOTS like yourself for the betterment of our business you cry baby!!!!

news flash sara lee buying out ibc

I am the B.A. for local 63, you want to know if you should come to me if you lose your job? WAKE UP, I don't do anything for you when you work and pay dues......why would I help you if you get LAID OFF and are not paying dues? DUH !!!!!

No one works on Thursday, until they tell us whats going on. you see how fast they speak

Glendale thats not what our union contract states. Remember the dolly lay off? IBC had to bring them back a year later..........with back pay

Sara Lee is looking at the profitable plants and Lakewood isn't one of them. They only want good looking product like we have at our plant.

Hey guys,I've been a routeman 20+ years and the writing is on the wall. All SOAR is going to do is slow the bleeding not stop it. Eventually this Co. will be sold in pieces or it will just go out of business. No company can continue to lose this kind of money and stay in business.Why do you think nobody has stepped up to buy this Co. The current people running IBC have no future plans for the Co. Look around your work place,old trucks,old equipment. Does this look like a Company that is looking towards it's future? This is a pretty sad state of affairs but it's the truth.

the sara lee rumor is hot and heavy but i cannot find anything about it anywhere on the web so it still just a rumor i suppose along with 1000 other rumors.

our sincerest apoligies to the families for their inefficiency during their recent feeding frenzy.

the union said that no millbrook drivers,that lose there jobs could dove tail in with wonder,how many years with millbrook do you need to be safe,and does anybody know how many routes per depot will be cut?????

Workers here have heard stories of IBC buying property South of Cincy for one of their "big" operations... Anyone else heard of this???

They did post the New Jobs of the bosses and there location

Is it true that Sara Lee is buying CBC? That would be good for all the employees.

Any advice from anyone,what action should we take if we all lose our jobs. Union ????

there will be 47 millbrook routes cut at the end of june they will dovetail with wonder bread

Mr B, would that be Millbrook routes?

yes and way less routes!

I love this......we have no vacation relief they all quit. all division mangers are all on routes, in fact, one key account rep was on a route today since there are more routes than RSRs no one even applied for route builder job. so what your saying is........ no more divison managers and they become the "route builders" ? doing the exact same thing as division mangers do except.......way less money. Never Happen.

Panoma: the route builder takes effect the end of june 04. that simply means the company can screw the management guy and send him to pull routes anyplace. he or she is also suppose to build the routes they are pulling. happy s.oa.r. the union loses all route runners, extra men, pullers, jumpers what ever you call them in your area's and the become management.

Prove it Columbus

sara lee buying ibc in late july will be firing all ibc sales reps when contracts expire.bringing in there on.

Idiot out of Lakewood cat got your tongue or is it stuck somewhere?

To LA Hostess what are the top five selling Hostess cake in the LA area and what wouldthe top five dolly Madison cake be in LA also. Our units are dropp[ng daliy both products seem dry and out dated.

if anyone from the SEC reads this i strongly suggest you check the books of all the bakeries in the Northeast, Bill's boys have been cooking them for years. If you think ENRON was bad you won't believe IBC. By the way how many of the 1.5 million Bakers Inns units actually sold. You need to start working on net not gross. Is it time again to launch that dry out of date Hostess "O" again?

hi

ibc, i want to thank you for all the years and hours i spent in building the business. for it you took my retiree health insurance away.

Baker's Inn doing very well in Northern California.

More bakeries,thrift stores,depots are closing. Routes will be cut,office employees have been told they will be laid off. Can any one tell me where all these savings are going??. CEO, CFO, VP, PC leads' salaries, bonuses,retirement plans or some international banks accounts in India,Malaysia,or Philippine?????? If you know, please let us know.

a source told me 47 routes will be cut at the end of june

Well I just want to say that I am an employee, have been a reader of this site, and have to this point resisted making a post. While many of the posts are negative and have merit, I believe most are from people who care. I can attest that IBC has a lot of top notch employees from the bottom to the top and have witnessed people of all levels applying their skills to the best of their ability. This would include production, executive, sales, soar, office staffs, accenture, and anyone else I did not include. Any large entity, be it a country, business, team, organization....etc must balance the concerns coming from the smallest componets (micro), to the whole (macro). Information and direction should be conveyed both upward and downward. The choices that the organization makes should consider all of these variables. The problem is that there are a lot of variables that cannot be predicted and many are beyond our control. If there is any advice I can give, I would just try to tell everyone to do their best and what is right. There is nothing wrong with that.

when do the millbrook/wonder routes get cut,and how many??????

when does this all take place? division manager ....route builder anyone know?

all management employees, if you feel you got screwed with this bidding process that see a good lawyer. my attorney feels that my case is a slam dunk, stupid people do stupid things and project soar take the cake. it is not a good thing to see such a great company bite the dust but the idiots from ibc sure have taken it dowm for the count. when it is over please never hire anyone that came from the original interstate company, they a baffones.

from here it looks like IBC is running this to ground on purpose.

do you all know that vp's and above have a 401K plus a defined retirement and also added a 2 year severence package in for each of them. ibc has to be the worst management run company ever.

Route builders? someone actually applied for that job? lol

How long will Baker's Inn last? I am running over 45%returns. All I get is plussed. How are the other area's doing? When will all the management changes happen. Not fast enough.

Stocks going down. I guess Brian Stevenson is not facing up the bread in his local supermarkets. Whats this guys job anyway. Must be a good old boy for them to keep him around. You good old boys better watch your backs cause you all will be the first to go.

To the jerk in Lakeland I bet your IQ can't be measured because you are so STUPID. Are you related to the HR manager in Billings?

I've heard from a very reliable source that IBC is going to lay off all Millbrooke,all Wonder bread,all Hostess routemen and yes, everyone in the Billings Mt. area and keep only the old Dolly routemen.

Rumor is---Sara Lee is trying to buy IBC, but they won't take Billings--too many cry babies I guess---W-a-a-a-h

heard that either millbrook or hostess was going to start hauling svenhards in southern california,anyone else hear this,also whats up with the millbrook route cuts anyboby have info on this?

to redeem your IBC dough cut and paste this into your browser: www.ibcdough.com You will see a picture of a woman giving a cheer, at the program box type the word unlock. From their you will need to register a new account and then you can go on and redeem your dough, I recieved my third period bonus bucks 2 weeks ago and picked my gift cards out of my mailbox last Saturday, thus the turn around rate is approx 5 to 10 days.

Will Interstate still be here in six months? How long can this go on this companies sales are falling like a rock. Looks like the company will go broke then be sold off by a bankrupty judge.

ibcdough bucks website ?????? how do I get there

Sounds like many multiple lawsuits are in the works. Once the news media gets hold of this the end will come even sooner. Thats what happens when people get greedy . The good old boys will stick together till the end.

i hear the buffalo bakery is closing, they lost some big account?

What would happen if we all bought only one share of IBC stock. One share of stock equals one vote right. Then we vote these idiots off the board of directors. Would this do any good or work?

Have you ever seen a dog chase his own tail? I now know how he feels.

Quality? What quality? I don't have time to worry about such a thing as quality. I'm answering too many questions for SAP or SOAR. Good Grief Charlie Brown where did Snoopy go?

The term Seniority rises out of a collective bargaining agreement between an employer and a labor organization. It is a job benefit applied equally to all employees who work under it. Each Agreement can cover several different and distinct groups of employers, unions and employees, each located at different work locations. Each location can have a different seniority list. There are many layers to seniority. You can have a different date of seniorty for vacations, department, division, transfer, promotion, and lay-off purposes. This depends entirely on how seniority comes to be and is defined and applied and what particular door (new hire or transfer) you used to enter your workplace. When seniority is correctly applied it is eventually accepted and helps establish order. When it is not applied correctly, it can be a fatal error for the employer and the union and all the employees. It then becomes a perpetual bone-of- contention and serves to destroy profits. Think of seniority as a form of religion. You better get it right the first time if you seek world-wide peace!

Hey...Kansas speak english........what does this mean? all union reps and ba's: ibc will soon be riding itself of route jumpers and callinf the ibc management route builders. you best get the ducks in a row now.

Follow up on the comment made by BIddford,the cover up has just begun. For years ,they have saving up future expenses in various accounts as accruals.and then use them to cover up unathorized and non company related expenses like Buddy fishing trips and balls games.Don't you think the company auditors would have caught them . OH no, when if the lead auditor is one of the members of the "Buddy Gang".whom we know now headed the company 's soar program. We all know Sales improvement is needed in order for the company to succeed. Why then they spent millions on Soars which basically has little to do with sales. All those money spent on SAP (a german owned company) would have better serve our economy by investing on US base company like Microsoft. Outsourcing does not help the company profit outlook unless you can improve your sales on all varieties. The hiring and interviewing process was a joke. After so many months of careful selection, they still end up with the same management buddies leading the PC centers. Where can we go from here????NO Way but down. Wake up,IBC employees and share holders . Together we can raise our voices on the next stock holgers meeting and let them know how you feel about the company leadership.

For all you people complaining about Lang and HR Deb isn't about time you go do the state. Make sure you have times and dates to nail the low lifes. Witnesses will help your cause.. But like I said you better document everything so it can stick.

Come on Al get some sleep Randy will be there when you wake up.

all union reps and ba's: ibc will soon be riding itself of route jumpers and callinf the ibc management route builders. you best get the ducks in a row now.

the worst is yet to come: the bakery managers have been hiding profits and loses for years, but this year the books come clean. it's been in hide in accurals, age trail balances or just charged to various accounts. vp's let this happen and in fact they were a large part of it. the reason ibc is having this bad year is because the money that was hiden has to come forward now. the bakery managers who are the biggest crooks all got jobs. if the scc every just took at look at the sales levels vs the profit for the last 2 years the jails would be full. now that bakers inn is a failure what next will the brain trust come up with. the bread is burned, crushed, small and comes torn on racks. it come short coded or overcode. and in a brown paper bag... thrift outlets are losing more money than ever and now we have a mixture of either stale or fresh. the incumbents don't have to bid and all are rewared with retro raises from feb 04. the shareholders have not a clue, but s.oa.r. is a total failure and things are worse now that ever. who in their right mind ever put sales last for a project that needed immediate results. bob the dolly guy along with mike clueless in kansas is backed up with big jimmy the ralston bean counter who spearheaded the cbc/ibc deal. mackenzie didn't work, l.i.f.t. didn't work and s.o.a.r. is curtainly the worst of the 3. i hope the 50 million was really well spent because after all is said and done ibc is in worse shape than ever.

Deb in HR dosomething about Larry Lang paranoid and erratic behavior It appears he may have some mental health and subst. ance abuse issues This man needs help

Sure Glendale you would need to see how this plant in Billings is managed if you called that number and HR found out she would have you fired then you would have to file a grivence to get your job back it not worth the risk this has already happened. Mamagment look out for each other its called the "good ole boys and grils club " Leisure suit Larry and Deb Tony and Randy will do what they want and cover each others asses .Lapdog knows that The teamster union local 190 should be the one to call kansas city .They know this is going on but just looks the other way this way a third party is involved let see if they do any thing

Union Shmunion....like they can help us. WAKE UP people, they don't care. Call Hector and offer him a burrito and then, just then might he help you.

It's called company seniority.