to raz you won't have to worry about a pink slip emporia bakery has been profitable for 30 years atl least plus you have no competers like on the east coast we have up to six bread and four cake to compete aginst in some areas. you i think only have one otherbread company and two cake break cake and little debbie so you guys are pretty safe

to j.c. i lost 30% of my bread space, george weston doubled his bread space, i sell about three time as much product as him. now he will have more space then me ibc. delivers 5 times weston only twice we do one call back every day two on wed and sun its more than service going on here.

Big Dong we need to talk. I also have an issue with John that can get him fired. I would love to see him out of here, he is such a thorn in my side. What shift are you on? I work second shfit. We need to meet and trade notes and get this guy out of here.

Finally, I have stuff on Big John. He has been on my a$$ for months now. Today he pulled some chite that is going to get him in so much trouble. He does not even know it yet. Monday I will go the his boss Chris and HR and see what happends. I bet that I can get him out of here for good. You know what they say, what comes around goes around. Damn I hope that he gets canned on Monday. I bet you my job that he will.

And I do wish to remain annonymous here in the GO in KC

You are all so disrespectful of me. I do not understand this behavior. Just bear with me all I am going to do is let a few thousand people go, cut a couple of thousand routes, sell a few bakeries, get this company out of banruptcy and by that time I think Krispy Kreme will be ready for me to start on them.

shame on u must be kin to jim and mike t. if u know what i mean.

Shame on me........................ I was caught stealing by my supervisor (lets just make up a name and call him George) He called me in the office and preached to me for about 30 minutes. He told me he was willing to let it go provided I give him a little cut. This would also include future earnings I might happen upon. It would be better for both of us that way he said. I was scared and accepted the offer. Well many hundreds of dollars have since changed hands and a NEW startling event has occurred.Georges supervisor (lets make up a name and call him Ray) called me into his office and he told me shame on you son. He told me he heard what had been going on and that I could be fired. He suggested that he should be involved in our little scheme, at least the part where i pay. I am scared again and think I should just resign. I ask everyone Shame on who?

"D", I am on a roll. The song of the day is"Chop, Chop,Chop'n on Heavens Door".Tony is going to need Divine Intervention to save this ship.When he is done with the P.C.'s , we will be one "Lean Mean Baking Machine".I.B.C. will then be attractive for others to purchase at a reasonable price.Also, I.B.C.=C.B.I. (Creative Bookkeeping Inc.)Have a Wonderful day everyone.

To all Anons out there: Post Your Name. Then we can respond properly.It can be an imaginary name.If not, you will be sent to Anon Anonymous by the Webmaster.

J.C. , Mac, Jobless, good posts. They are watching............ I wish upper mgt. would comment on the good posts,they just Anon on the bad ones.

You said it all Jobless. They are the guy's that made the hair brained decesions, and they are the ones that should pay the price, they have destroyed product quality with ESL. Give the routeman a consistant quality product when they want it and they will sell it. We are in a very simple bussiness, all it takes is excellent quality and superior service. You need to talk to the people on the production lines and the salesman on the street Alverez, not the clowns in G.O.

I can't believe that these brillant "over paid" proffessionals can't read the writting on the wall, are you guys blind ? If they are so interested in "saveing the company" they need to start at the problems source, "piss poor management" The current management is putting a lot of good people out of work, running others off, why? Tony talks about restructering the company, get rid of the ones that put us in the position that we are in, up the quality of the breads, that's what sells, not the "stuff" that their putting on the shelves. Wake Up Tony, take a good look around. The problems with the comapny are the people your talking too, "plant managers that don't have any business in the those positions....... if they cut the waste at the Char. Plant the hog farms would go out of business..............not us !

JC Sorry to say you are wrong, but you are wrong. Alverez and his clowns have already determined what plants will close, which one's will cut back, and what routes will be eliminated. He is dumping private label to condolidate production, this will allow him to close plants and cut routes. Short term this may help him, long term It's a diaster. All he is interested in is the short term. When thats done he will then do away with the PC'S and go back to divisions. IBC as we knew it will be shot.

Page, You are not mice you are the only non union sales rep area in the country sorry about not being union!

What is the real reason Sunbeam lost all shelf space in Market Basket Stores ??????? Who is doing any marketing for Sunbeam or will the brand under IBC be extinct ?

Here comes the plusing on bakers inn - at 2/4.00 it sells very well , at 2.99 not as well - must be the sales reps fault, not promoting it at 2.99- same old thinking cbc or ibc, ( anything goes right, its in spite of the sales rep, anything goes wrong, it's because of the sales reps)

Billings mt. you are out in the middle of no where and are soon to be sold!

We are the best IBC employee in the company and they treat us very well.

"I love IBC! I love IBC! I love IBC!" there, now I've done my part. Anyone else want to comment??

and i am sure being in ca is nice as u r the last pc to go down

look @ the up side kal52 at least they will know a lil better when they start on that pc we in fla r testing mice

to:kal52 i am trying to find myself too lol

OK, here is the straight scoop. 1. Bakeries that are ineffecient or do not show a profit will be closed if there are alternatives to provide product for the market. 2. All private label, restaurant, bid accounts will be examined to see if they are, in fact, profitable. If not, they will be dropped as soon as possible. These are not new concepts for CBC folks but are fairly new to IBC. 3. There have already been major cuts in GO staff so quit worrying about the cuts just being the little guy. Many accounts use a space to sales a concept which is fairly new to WalMart. That business plan has proved to increase bakery sales in an individual account by as much as !5%by reducing out-of-stocks. (Trust me - I have been there done that ). If that is being done on a store-by-store basis, as it should be, the results will only show your efforts in that store. Now, how do you fight the process? If you work inside, do everything in your power to insure that the product going out the door is the best that you can provide. If you are a Route Sales Rep, take care of your accounts to the very best of your ability - do extra call backs (the last guy in the strore is the winner) talk to consumers, sell your product. Make sure that every item on your display is something that you would be proud to take home to your family. There is no direct delivery company around that can survive if their employees do not believe in their product and do not go the extra mile to sell that product. The process of moving from PC to PC will take time. In the meanwhile, your destiny is somewhat in your hands. Sorry if I am somewhat more serious in my posts than others, but I hate to see good folks lose their jobs because of the actions of a few radicals. Unfortunately, that is going to happen all across the country. The senority rules will not necessarily leave IBC with the best employees as the required job cuts go forward.

to all my fellow I B C employes what is wrong with this picture? we are bankrrupt and what are we doing about it? NOT A THING!! we lost a hell of lot of space in our #1 account ''WAL MART'' were is MR. JEFF HENDREX? he is suppose to be our WAL MART contect were is he? mabe at a taile gate party . or mabe at a fancy resteraunt with his ''boys'' more than likely not taking care of WAL MART. just look at the resets. why is'nt any one calling for his job? just thanks agin ''GOOD OL BOY JEFF'' for letting me my fellow emploees and my kids down. hope you sleep good at night!! thanks for nothing.

Kaluahb52,I am in rt. sales. I used to be in mgt., although I aspire to be in G.O. someday. Actually, I am like everyone else, I am waiting for my pink slip to arrive.Have a Wonderful weekend.

Does anyone know what is happening to the sunbeam label. Rumors have it that Country Kitchen is getting it . I am from RI now one told us anything.

me too i thing tony is GRRRREAT!! PLEASE TONY SPARE MY INSIGNIFICANT LIFE I LOVE I B C !!! PPPPPPPPLEASE!!!!

Rasp....does he not know how to read them himself.........lol i personally am a rt sales rep. just wondering if you do the same.......thats all

I am a secret liason for Tony Alvarez. I report back daily on all these posts. He says it is amazing to read about all these Wonderful employees.

Raspberry.....are you in rt sales? if not what do you do for IBC?

This brings me back to another day. A Doo run , run, run , A Do run run. A Do Enron, ron, A Do Enron, ron. Yeah ain't it sweet? Just like "Tony the Tiger".Let's hear some Wonderful Comments this weeekend.I will be watching and reading all the posts.Gang, it's time to bring out the really good posts.We do not want to read the boring ones.They are out there watching.

to:jeff,page and jp: oh never mind those are all me

hey bediford sure glad to see your going on strike in the spring time us soon to be ex managers in florida would have hated to pull strike duty in the cold winter lmao ty>>>good luck and happy job hunting

tis all good bob well the count down continues and we r at 59 days til the unemployment line fills up and soon the line will begin in the nc profit center. sure glad the higher ups are in the same boat as we are"yeah right" thats a frkin joke

To Jim in Buffalo... The Shop-Rite (Oak Tree Road) in Edison NJ went to TWO FEET on Tuesday for ALL Wonder, Home Pride bread and rolls etc.

Just popped online to see if anything has changed, scrolled down and BY GOSH-Rufus is still on the site....Hmmmmm....could that mean; Rufus=Webmaster??????

ibc stock going backwards again. will it be frozen before they close all profit centers. we' ll see

KC HR coming next week. Same MO as Miami. Get ready friends cause we are going down. For the rest of you in Bideford, we would be happy to take your jobs if you are so frigging stupid to strike. Unbelieveable!

Moe-ron is a fraud. Go down the list and you will see he says that he works for Pratt and Whitney. What a dipsh-t! Biddeford labor is threatening a strike. John J and Eric H are out rable rousing in the halls. Dump this stupid aholes. We have an election and these two are right up there with moe-ron. Get your story together moe or take your crap somewhere else.

Blue Falcon named his Ding Dong twinkie.

You tell them Ann. Blue Falcon don't need those credit cards, he's a homo. Been that way since he got his balls blow off in the war.

Hey Blue Falcon, I've read several of your past communications, as always they seem to lean in the direction of hatred for anyone who is above you. I've taken some classes and you fit a perfect model. I can tell you are a short, Possibly bald or thinning hair man, Because of this you feel life cheated you. You can't get enough satisfaction in your life to make you happy. Your sex life suffers from this also, I have extreme doubt that you could get laid in a whorehouse with a handful of credit cards. You seem like a very poor excuse for a human being. I personally know two of the three individuals and I'm sure the third is a good person, the only problem is You. Quit or shut-up, you little crybay.

its just starting. Look for the east and west coast to take most of the hits. No more Private Label. Would love to see South Central P.C. get a taste of their own ---rudest people I have ever met. run around yelling as if they are important. Alot of hot air

Webboy, you have a future in management at IBC. The double standard is clear. I guess you can post anything if your not Doopie, "D", Twink the Kid, or CC. We hurt this site with all our humor. We should have been posting educational stuff like Rufus.

A'm I reading this right? We only got $95mil left of the $200mil the BK judge gave us to operate? This means we only got about 6-month before the fat lady sings.

D, I agree that Rufus's comments should be instant deletion material. I do not use language like that , and I get Deleted.

Webmaster- I can't believe you cut our posts and let some idiot named Rufus write what he did. That sucks

To Page in JAX Sorry ,didn't mean all management is incompendent ,just way to many for a company to be sucesfull.To much time spent covering there butts and not enough time spent promoting and selling what at one time was a top of the line bakery product-all good ideas only come the top and the job of everyone else to agree and say "Gee ,I wish I would have thought of that "

Post away Gang. D, Doop, Capt., Cowboy, Puddinghead, ttk.I function better when I have an outlet. This is a sad ending to this once great company.

latest on the restructre is that the depot has to carry a 7000 ave

i miss the good old days when we were busy competing w/each other merita-wonder and hostess-dolly

"Ridin' the storm out." Waitin' for the fallout. "I do not know about the storm, but we are definitely seeing the "Fallout".Does anyone remember when E.S.L. started? 8000 rt. avg. for all rts. Did anyone happen to mention this to Tony.Folks, it failed miserably last time. Why would it work this time at 8500 rt. avg. The person who came up with this idea was the same person who came up with Donut Bites.Kill the brands and the workforce at the same time.Isn't life WONDERFUL?????????????What's up Gang?

tony had the option of selling the dolly label for a couple hundred mill and of selling the merita label to george wesson for more cash but how many routes would be left with wonder and hostess(the best 2 labels)??????? i mostly agree with you bob but while i think there are some great people at the rt level i also know there are some great ones at the depot mgr and district levels just not 100 pct as the rt persons r not 100 pct

IBC's most valueable assets are not the old manufacting plants-not the distribution system with the 20 year old trucks and health care costs and unionised wages-not the incomptent management from depot managers on up.The most valueable asset are the brand names and that is all TA is doing is making those brands more attractive to a buyer-one of the reasons to get out of the private label business.

moe: you are an idiot $1000 a nite to eat? i was informed of my last day and now i see this crap too did you try to be a manager?trust me your job was easy compared to either a division or district mgr i guess your education level shows in your thought process employees of ibc are paid higher that others in the same field(non-union)hmmmmmmmmmmm could that have something to do w/it??/ get a life azz ole

I.B.C. is like a bottle of Tequila.It tastes great going down ,until you find the worm at the bottom of it. Kind of hard to swallow isn't it?H.R. is like the rest of the mgt. team, the less they tell you, the better off they are?No, they are not going to tell you when your last day is. Although, they should be prepared to answer any and all questions posed by employees.Just because these individuals are losing their jobs does not mean I.B.C. ceases to assist them. Touchdown Tony, I am sure has thought this through and has planned for this.His mgt. team has known for awhile what is going to take place.Good Luck Forida!

Anonymous in Akron Why would Wal Mart -the most modern and aggresive retailer in the world want a bunch of outdated and antiquated bakeries with a unionised work force.They don't manufacture anything themselves-it is all outsourced so it is done as cheaply as possible.

Walmart wants IBC to go belly up, so they can buy our bakeries ! Don't you people know anything !!

Wal-mart has gone space to sales nation wide. Sara Lee has gained space on us in every Wal-mart in the mid west from what I have heard.

TO JIM IN BUFFALO,ALL THE WALMART SETS ARE BASED ON SALES IN THAT STORE WE HAVE TO FACE THE FACT THAT WE ARE GETTING OUR ASSES KICKED ON THE MARKET IN MANY PLACES

does anyone know by name the ten so called profit centers not counting miami.

to jim in buffalo we are getting the same treatment in three of our walmarts cut space by one third or more and we have the private label also. mgnt. said they didn't know anything about it

how many bosses got cut in miami-- from top to bottom

"Get Ready For The Plussing" I just got wind if this, IBC to plus each route 1000.00 - 1500.00 per week for 2 -3 weeks in a row !

I thought you still were eligible for medical, dental, etc (all your selected benefits) during your severance period then after that it costs you 102% of the medical and dental costs meaning you start paying the full cost plus a 2% administrative cost...this is regulated under the Federal COBRA Act. You don't have to choose COBRA if you don't want to, but then you don't have any benefits unless you have a private or spousal work benefit policy.

Alverez is making a bunch of short term decesions that may help him now, but in the long run will kill the company. Ther is a lot of creative accounting going on in Kansas City, it's about time for the Federal Trade Commission to catch up with these clowns. Watch out for your pension, looks like the company as well as the unions have grossly underfunded them.

Use all remaining sick time, it will not be paid out when they shut the doors in FLA. You will loose that money. Just call in sick and get the pay, use the time to look for other work.

We are going to pay executive bonuses this year because we've done such a good job at avoiding preparing our financials, this will buy us time to get more money out of this dog. Here's the facts: (over a year late on financials? How much more can the stockholders take? PUBLISHED: "IBC does not expect to file its Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended May 29, 2004 until its assessment of these issues is complete and its independent auditors complete their audit of the Company's financial statements for the fiscal year ended May 28, 2005, which is not expected to be completed prior to August of 2005. IBC remains uncertain when it will file Quarterly Reports for the quarters ended August 21, 2004; November 13, 2004 and March 5, 2005 and amended Quarterly Reports for the quarters ended November 15, 2003 and March 6, 2004

Cincinnati Your Next, Two Shifts Of Bread, Private Lable Gone ?. Buns Equipment Down. Cripples Up. Shipping Hog Feed. Supervisors Don't Care Any More, Managers Who Don't Know What They Are Doing "Hunter, Bryant, Dawson"

Remember the H R Dept is employed buy and works for the company. Do not expect them to do much except look out for the companys needs and not the hourly workers. They do not care about you. Do not expect any consideration from they at all.

Walmart Watkins Glenn reset went from 10 feet to 5 feet. Stroehmans went from 5 feet to 10 feet and we handle Private Label. Any one Know whats going on? Great Job Account Execs.

Where is HR in all of this? They are suppose to be the ones providing COMMUNICATION to the employees and yet they don't! WHY is that? i know many folks who work for other companies who have more respect for their HR dept than IBC employees have for theirs. Communication is KEY in a situation such as this. Yet there is NO communication given or if they believe they provide some it doesn't answer the questions on the employees minds...will I get a severance, how much will it be, can I move to another area, will they pay for relocation, etc. Step up to the plate and do your job! It's not fun in time like these but you have a chance to make it better than you have so far. Take this challenge...

Let us be PROACTIVE for a day, rather than REACTIVE and fighting fires all day long. What is it with jumping at the sound of the phone when Wal-mart is on the other end. Get real! Business is business but are our IBC Execs that scared and think Wal-Mart respects us any more because of it? If you believe that I have a bridge in NY to sell ya!

Let me see...does Alvarez read any of these messages? i doubt it but just on the off chance he does, here is my 5 cents worth. He is so fooled by IBC top executives that he doesn't get the real picture. Save costs at the expense of the little guys who have given 15+ years of service for a company that has rested on its laurels and wasn't proactive in any way. Business has changed and those old timers need a reality check rather than a big fat paycheck. They haven't a clue what is going on. There is so much GOOD OLE BOY NETWORK that if you ain't one of them you can forget it...and most of us on in the NOT ONE of them category with the small incomes trying to get by.

Little Barb I'm sorry but the test of a person is what your conscious will endure. I hope someday you will make a stand and do something about how somebody treats people. Let God be with you.

Where is HR in finding quality people to fill the routes and help us out? That means you Dollie Hamlin. Missing in action I'd say. You aren't doing your job, blaming others ...what's up with all the excuses? What will you do when you don't have a job with IBC? File a lawsuit? Just move on, we'd all be better for it, trust us!

you people don't understand that t alverez was not hired save your jobs but to deal with the bankruptcy and close and sell off areas of the country till all debt is satisfied to the court and creditors and then he moves on. end of story

where will thay go next seems to me thay are starting with the PCs that thay so call say are hurting the company duno about that but we hear thay will get to everyone sooner or later.......guess it time to see what eles i can be doing to pay my bills and feed my childern

Get ready Northeast, here he comes. Go ahead Biddiford, make it easy for him. To our brothers and sisters of Florida,we wish you all the best. It is a sin that these good people have to go through this and the people that destroyed this company have never been punished. Why hasnt anybody gone to jail. Tony's people still can't straighten out the books because they have been cooked so much. "D" sorry no humor, these people make me sick!

Dolly, TALKS THE TALK, BUT CANNOT WALK THE WALK

600 peoples lives changed yet many execs still have their new cars. Call with any questions that you have - leave a message for the bright guy that is paying 2 million in severance to the execs but not the Florida drivers. 1-816-502-4959

Call with any questions that you have - leave a message for the bright guy that is paying 2 million in severance to the execs but not the Florida drivers. 1-816-502-4959

Call with any questions that you have - leave a message for the bright guy that is paying only severance to the execs but not the Florida drivers. 1-816-502-4959

Call with any questions that you have - leave a message for the bright guy that is paying only severance to the execs but no the drivers. 1-816-502-4959

Doopity DooDoo-I missed ya Baby!! Our gang has all of the best ideas. We should run this company....it would never disappear. What do the rest of Our Gang think??

how about this: #1 Give management more money #2 Give them all new cars #3 Give them all bonus for all the write ups they issue #4 Close Bakeries #5 Cut Routes/Layoff OHHH YEAH, THERE DOING THAT !!!

IF WE CUT 30% OF ROUTES WHY NOT CUT 30% OF UPPER AND MIDDLE MGT.? THE JUDGE WILL SURELY SEE THIS.

To O.S.U. Rocks , we have been told the same thing . 8500 rt. avg. , combo,and rt. cuts. Touchdown Tony can sleep , because he keeps scoring.I can sleep better now, because he finally spoke. Chop, Chop, Chop,until nothing is left.

very intresting,co. says 2 million charged off for severace in fl.,what do drivers get?

HERE WE GOOOOOOOO NEW ENGLAND 4 MORE ROUTES ARE GONE!!!!!! WE SHOULD BE GONE BY THE END OF SUMMER OR SOONER!!!!! YOUR NOT ALONE FLORIDA!!!! SUNBEAM IN MASS HAS BEEN GETTING IT SHOVED UP THERE FOR 3 MONTHS ALREADY!! JUST THE BEGINNING I'M TOLD!!!!

Alverez and company have no loyalty to anyone, Miami is the start of his phase two, by the time they are done there will be very little left. He will then declare victory, collect his bonus and move on to his next victim. Meanwhile the same clowns that got us into this mess will be sitting on their butts in G.O.. way to go Tony, how the heck do you sleep a night.

GREAT JOB TONY A THIS IS GREAT JUST KEEP KILLING OUT THE HARD WORKING ONES AND SAVE THE BOTTOM SUCKERS

ALL AREAS WILL EXPERIENCE LAYOFFS RT CUTS PLANT CLOSURES AND SEPOT AND RETAIL CLOSINGS

EACH AREA IN THE COUNTRY IS SEPERATED INTO DIFFERENT PC'S AFTER THE FLORIDA PC IS CUT TO NOTHING THEN THEY WILL PROCEED TO THE NEXT PC UNTIL ALL AREAS HAVE BEEN CUT ALL PRIVATE LABEL IS HISTORY AND ROUTES RUN 8500 OR ARE GIVEN A 2 WK NOTICE B 4 PULLING THEM OFF THE ROAD

reliable source tells me 8500 rt. avg. discontinuing some items combining hostess dolly every one works same wed off schedule this will cause some routes to be cut.

Any word on whats going to happen in our area as for as the restructure?

How many people work at the miami bakery? Looks like huge route cuts. 600 people have been freed or fried depending how you look at this.

Call with any questions that you have - 1-816-502-4959

When is this reorganazation going to start hitting the good old boys club? Get one smart regional leader and get rid of the leftovers. Save a ton of money which is now wasted on leadership that is jusr collecting a pay check. The waste is in corporate leadership not in the closing of plants with hard working people.

thats great we are in this mess cause people high up lined pockets and took care of their buddies instaed of the company's interest i hope they burn in heeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllll to punish lower managment or employees is stupid

Interstate Bakeries Corporation (OTC: IBCIQ.PK) ("IBC") said today that, as part of its previously announced operational and financial restructuring and subject to bankruptcy court approval, it plans to consolidate operations in its Florida Profit Center (PC) by closing its bakery in Miami and consolidating routes, depots and thrift stores in Florida and Georgia, where it maintains regional facilities. The Company said it expects to complete the consolidation of the Florida PC by July 15, 2005. The consolidation is expected to affect approximately 600 workers in the Florida PC. IBC will continue to service the marketplace from its bakeries in Columbus, Georgia, and Jacksonville and Orlando, Florida. These actions are a part of the Company's efforts to address continued revenue declines and its high-cost structure. Monthly consolidated operating reports filed with the bankruptcy court show that net sales for the third quarter (16 weeks ended March 5, 2005) were $1.003 billion, representing a 1.7 percent decline from the comparable period a year ago. "In light of continuing revenue challenges, we are taking steps to rationalize and refocus our under-performing operations into a sustainable, ongoing business that can operate outside of bankruptcy protection," said Tony Alvarez II, chief executive of IBC and co-founder and co-chief executive of Alvarez & Marsal, the global corporate advisory and turnaround management services firm. "These actions are intended to improve profitability by rationalizing marginal products," he said. "The Company will strengthen its focus on branded sales and deliveries, which we believe are key components in configuring the business for efficiencies in production, distribution, marketing and sales." Mr. Alvarez said that since filing to restructure under Chapter 11, the Company has undertaken a comprehensive review of its operations to determine the appropriate actions necessary to return to profitability. As a first step, the Company: " Closed the Florence, S.C. facility; " Implemented a reduction in force; " Reduced corporate costs; and " Reduced or suspended certain employee benefit programs. As a result of these initial actions, among others, and the impact of the Chapter 11 filing, IBC reported a cash balance of $95.4 million as of March 5, 2005 in the latest monthly consolidated operating report it filed with the bankruptcy court. The Company is now into the second stage of its restructuring process, which involves an exhaustive review of each of the Company's ten PCs on an individual basis. "We regret the difficulties for employees directly impacted by the consolidation in Florida," Mr. Alvarez said. "However, we believe it is critical that we eliminate unprofitable products and routes, streamline distribution, rationalize the number of brands and stock-keeping units (SKUs) and eliminate excess capacity, which will result in lower revenues in the Florida PC. In the long run, we are doing what we must to revitalize the company, preserve jobs and maximize the value of the enterprise for all our constituencies." "We've approached the PC review process in great detail, identifying the critical issues in our most challenging regions first. Much work remains to be done and the implementation of the PC restructurings present significant challenges and are not without execution risk," Mr. Alvarez said. In the next stage of the restructuring process, IBC plans to finalize its go-forward business plan, including the completion of a comprehensive marketing strategy. "Only after that is accomplished," Mr. Alvarez said, "will the Company begin to develop a plan of reorganization that will permit it to emerge from bankruptcy protection." The Company's preliminary estimate of charges to be incurred in connection with the Florida PC consolidation is approximately $10 million, including approximately $2 million of severance charges, approximately $5 million of asset impairment charges, and approximately $2 million in other charges. IBC further estimates that approximately $5 million of such costs will result in future cash expenditures. In addition, the Company intends to spend approximately $1 million in capital expenditures and an additional approximately $1 million in other accrued expenses to effect the consolidation. IBC currently contributes to over 40 multi-employer pension plans as required under various collective bargaining agreements. Many of these plans are underfunded in that their liabilities exceed their assets. The portion of a plan's underfunding allocable to an employer deemed to be totally or partially withdrawing from the plan as the result of downsizing, job transfers or otherwise is referred to as "withdrawal liability." To give an example of the size of the underfunding in IBC's pension plans, if IBC is deemed to have completely withdrawn from the two multi-employer pension plans with the largest underfunding, Bakery & Confecti

what all did the press say in miami

nope they try to leave u a lil hope with possible recall but get serious its over

Jeff, who is going to service the Miami area? According to the press release release the local areas are going to handle the product. Are they going to drop-ship the majors? I can't imagine them running a route truck down past the Tampa area. Did they give you any other info other than to point you guys to the door?

yeppers sure sucks massive layoffs coming up the ones who stay will not have a life at all

IBC has massive unfunded health and pension costs for union members-if federal goverment takes over pension plan -no health insurance for retirees and much reduced pension payments.Alverez and company of course will be paid in full.

I got my walking papers too, guess I have to tell the wife it's over, 10 years and this is what I get. Last day is the same. Happened faster than I thought.

well meeting was bad news my last day will be 7-16-05 along w/60 pct of management and 40 plus pct of routes and 60 pct of depots unless prompted i will end my short stay with the message board

does anyone know what is going on the meeting is back up for thursday . we are worried about augusta ga will we be here are not the question remains .

Miami bakery closed-outlet stores closed-routs cut -600 jobs gone in news just released-just the first profit center in the process of going through all of them

Working for i.B.C. is like watching"I Dream of Jeanie", if you blink it might just be gone.

Fred, yes things are this bad . Hopefully everyone can see this site. Maybe I.B.C. will be embarrassed enough to admit that they need to improve their H.R.It is their choice to make the necessary improvements and the good employees will fall in line.Working in a positive work environment is a great way to help. We have always been kept in the dark ,even before BK.

Capt. cupcake , you hit it right on the head.Our Gang keeps coming up with answers.I wish our company could.

I Believe Big Tony Is Having A Two Day Meeting In Florida Today And Tomorrow. I Thought He Already Gutted Florida But I Guess He Is Coming Back For More.

strike , strike, strike, put us all out of our misery

well as far a getting payed to load your trucks yes you will .at the depot i work at we have 6 wonder 6 hostess and 1 dolly route we have loders to load the wonder and hostess and the dolly route get paied $5.00 a day to load his truck our drivers do not punch in and out the loaders do but that all might change if thay do get rid of us we will sit home and draw unemployment yeeeehaaaaahhhh sounds like a vacation to me

I would like to responed to several postings. Many people jump on the anti-union bandwagon" the lazy union people" . When was the last time a Business Agent or steward held interviews for IBC. You idiots hire these morons, they put in 30, 60, or 90 days, then they are the unions fault. When and what union has told you this person is an idiot don't hire them. J.C. in Pomona. guys like you made this company great. You took pride in your job and busted your ass. You made your way up the ladder of management. As managers you hire your useless kids , your deadbeat brother inlaw , or your unemployed drunk neighbor. Maybe the current employees would take pride if they didn't have a black cloud following them. Start giving them some answers instead of waiting for a pinkslip.

Biddeford employees, don't fall for the extension. Yes, if they have 40 mill to give to the execs for bonuses that are to be paid very soon they should have enough money to give you a decent increase and not freeze your pay, benefits etc. Extensions are nothing but a ploy, and don't let your Union reps tell you otherwise. Teamsters has "settled" for extensions all across the country. Vote on it if you want an extension, but watch out. Hang in there gang, the west coast is pulling for you. Good luck

Did you say the company has nothing left? If that is so why have they budgeted in excess of 40 million dollars for management bonuses. Thats an example of why we have Unions.

Hey Pam D in shipping , if you can't do your job because of yor back why dont you get out and let them get someone else in here that can do it, we're tired of picking up your slack, and were tired of watching you get special treatment, do your job or get the hell out...i've never seen anyone so lazy and whiney..... in every sense of the word, stop screwing the plant.

Do you brainless people that will vote to go on strike friday actually think that this company will last thru a strike, your lucky they last thru the meeting let alone a strike.... Union must have you all brainwashed. You cant pump water from a dry well just as you cant get more from a company that has nothing left... hello stupid people get a clue, more than half of you think your already on strike anyways.

strike talk is on the inside contract .bct. company wants 90 day extention. they want to strike.

Lest you forget when you are thinking that nothing is going to change until the end of the union contracts- in bankrupcy the union contracts are not worth much more than the paper they are written on.

JC Kelly is a witch that tried hard to get someone else fired so she could move up. What a joke. She's got plenty of lawsuits and fumbles along the way. May have a big area but is in no way on top of her game. Far from it.

So, what happened to freedom of speech? Can't handle the truth?

wewill be cutting one route in two weeks nobody knows why we lost the space also i heard we may quit making private label over the next year. im lucky about the trucks mine is a 2003 automatic real nice plus our bakey has been up dated with equipment because of the hurricane that flooded it they could only get in thebakey by boat back then . are contract goes till 6-6-06 they shouldnot change anything until then.

What is all this talk about the contract? the contract with the teamsters has 2 more years to go a least in Maine anyway.

Razz-you are on the delete list simply because you "belong." That's o.k. though, me and the rest of our deleted gang still love ya! Hey guys, in the Pac NW we call 'em DOG BITES. Also-all of you ANONs can take your opinions and stuff them in your donut bite-holes. You don't like our bad attitudes? We don't like your bad attitudes about OUR bad attitudes. So there. Heard from all but Doop today, where are you hon??

To the couple of drivers complaining about old and poorly serviced trucks.Better get used to it I think . As a mechanic myself I can say it is getting very hard to keep up. A good mechanic can fix or replace anything and IBC has some very good mechanics. There is not a part on any truck that can not be fixed or replaced. Trouble is there may not be money to buy that part., Or enough time do the much needed repairs the old route trucks need. Also there is no overtime allowed. Wish I could make you feel better but this is one part of bankrupsy. You guys can do your part, drive the old truck likes its yours, check the oil now and then, let the mechanic know about problems. You have a right to drive a safe truck if you can,t get your truck fixed talk to your manager. I gues this is enough from this old wrench turner wish I could fix every thing for you but I have 35 trucks of my own. 300,000 is considered low milage at my branch.

Most of you that are doing all the B*tching about this company that pays your bills,are most likely just like the sorry lazy a$$es I work with . You want a paycheck but want to sit on your a$$

Hey Z......... Yep the sun is shinning here...... Nice tidbit from JC, I remember fellas like that with those work ethics and they are damn sure few and far between in IBC now. It's really too bad that everyone in the Union feels IBC owes them something. For Christ sakes, they make $20 an hour out here with full benefits. IBC owes noone nothing but a job which they got. What IBC needs in return are loyal employees that take pride in coming to work every day and putting out a quality product. There are too many selfish people out there, on both sides of the fence I may add. I think it's a damn shame IBC is in the situation they are in and it's probably too late at this point. They would really have to streamline some plants, sell off to recover some of the revenue to pay back on the debt. They, in the mean time, need to put everything they have back into quality, not quantity, to get some respect back in the market and consumer place. It does no good to cut 130 units of Wonder Small per minute if only half of it is worth filling shelf space. Wake up people before it's too late for you. :-(

Re: Must have been doing something right with leaders like Bill, Mike, Ellis, Kelly, and many, many very good, very dedicated others. Please Spare us!! We have done more with less here @ Glendale 27 the last 25 yrs. manhours per pound we have Pomona beat. We have only one supersize dext bin here........ Cramers's head is big enough please don't encourage him.

Dear Anon: It's called the Walmart way.

To Florida:" Keep Banana Dreaming"' . Good Luck at your meeting. By the way, you committed the cardinal sin.We are RSR's, not "Delivery Persons". I.B.C. training at its best!!!!!Gotta Love It.

hey rocky mount whats the deal cutting shelf space? are routes being cut also.

to jc. the work habits of the routeman today are not like back then if they had to run a route back when you did not have hand helds they would not make it past traing. to many hours and to many stops. as for our busness as of next tue. we will be cut one third of our bread space in five super centers and three of them we have the private label. flowers and george weston are getting most of space.

JC from Pomona. Good thing you are retired now. Its now more BS then we can handle. The work force that is availible to hire sucks this OO generation will be the down fall of a lot of companies. IBC does no training anymore they put you in a job and tell you what to do. They do not want you to use your brain to figure anything out. No one has the time to help a fellow coworker it is sink or swim. But instead of getting rid of any dead wieght you keep them around because HR will send you someone who is more stupid and incompetent. So we end up working with below par workers producing below quality products. Bottom line is we have created what we got and no one can figure how to get us out of this mess. Be thankful you were able to retire out of this because there will be a lot of individuals who will not be able to say the same when IBC is gone.

Never,ever, have I seen such BS posted on one single site. I retired from IBC several years ago. Started as route vacatiion relief with CBC and, through hard work for many years, retired from a management position. When I started there were no uniforms provided by the company so I wore slacks, white shirt and a tie - as a salesperson should, unlike a delivery person. Not provided by the company but by me. The store managers on my route knew that they could count on me in an emergency for additional product as needed (they all had my home phone number). Ran my route, checked out and then made call-backs on my way home to make sure my display was fresh during peak shopping hours. Did not worry about a clock because I was on commission and realized that every loaf sold benefited me. Because of that attitude, I believe, I did not have to worry about the company's attitude toward me - I was only worried about how I could increase my income using the tools provided. There are some who will scoff at this attitude. They are the ones who will never advance beyond basic labor positions and will continue to need a union to determine their level of pay and to protect them when they trangress on a company policy. The downfall of this company, in my opinion, is first, the lack of inatiive brought on by the rampant union attitude (that may or may not be solved by independent distributors) and second, the lack of training for sales reps, for supervisors, for DSM's (if that is still what they are called) for GSM's and for Profit Center VP's. Under CBC, every step in advancement of position required increasing levels of training up to and including at least 13 weeks of intensive training to become a plant manager. IBC's policy seems to be - promote someone and wait to see if they sink or swim. In Pomona (under CBC) the program was - 10 day training for a Sales Rep., 2 weeks training for a Supervisor, one month for a DSM. Above that CBC took over. I am not aware of any training conducted by IBC other than trial and error. Now, how will the company survive? By getting rid of union contracts that protect many of the people posting on this site, by re-dedicating the production process to quality - regardless of efficiencies and/or cripples, by stressting freshness and quality of product on the market ( partly a sales rep responsibility, if it does not look good - pick it up or do not put it out) by reestablishing effeciency controls that were a way of life under CBC and by holding the individuals responsible for profit accountable for that profit. They still have a few folks on the payroll that know what I am talking about - use them. BTW - At the time time that IBC bought CBC Pomona was the 2nd largest profit center in the IBC system. After two years, Pomona was the largest. Must have been doing something right with leaders like Bill, Mike, Ellis, Kelly, and many, many very good, very dedicated others.

I could not have said it better Captain. The only people that like brown bags are from Louisiana. Particularly from New Orleans area. Hey Cowboy, is the sun shining where you are? Are these posts not Wonderful?

Hey kids lets take a couple more mini muffins out of each bag, they will never notice. Lets put donut holes in a brown paper bag and call them another flavor of Bakers Inn. I can't wait till Twinkies 76th birthday , like anybody gives a flying rats ass. If being stupid was against the law, Kansas City would be a prison.

"D", Donut holes do not sell in the North, South, East or West .The only direction they know is right in the toilet.Since Dunkie bags are so sensational in sales, then I think everyone would agree that we should start packaging zingers inside those bags. Let's start with raspberry zingers. Let's really get creative ,and go with Twinkies Too!Better read this post fast.It probably will get deleted. Webmaster put me on the" Delete List", for some unknown reason.

To Anon.We are not whiners.We like to think outside the box .What else are we supposed to say? What a wonderful job our company is doing.Many employees have come to this company from different companies. Bottom line is that most have had valid points in critiqueing the way our company does business. If you had read more than 15 posts, then you would realize that. I have had conversations with others about I.B.C. , and they always end the conversation with REALLY?Nuff Said."

I have heard that the New Bedford bakery will be closing and that they are seling off the Sunbeam trucks located in their Dorchester Warehouse.Whats Uo??

if all you anonymous posters think the grass is greener on the other side then jump ship.why cain,t you post your name.i see the other companies out on the market and if they wern,t 30 -40 cents cheeper than us they wouldn,t be a round eather.right now on my market i sell wonder bread for 1.79 aloaf my competor sells thers for 99.now you tell me what comanies are needing the sales.i don,t want to sell bread at 1980 priceing.we have the best benefits in the bread market why don,t we all try a little harder.we have the product and the know how. how would you like to go out with a truck full of off name bread and try to sell it. buy your own fuel,your own ins.make your truck payments ,pay your pull up people load your own trucks. i think i will stay with ibc as long as i can. don,t post again,t this message if you are anonymous.i hope i didn,t make any mistakes because i didn,t go to college,like the most of us.

"Read these posts there is no satisfaction here. Nothing but complaints of dissatisfaction" This posting below me... come on it was mentioned that IBC has roughly 30,000 employee's and all I see is maybe 15 ppl who are whiners?

IBC can never have a nice website like Sara Lee because they do not care to provide service or contact phone numbers for people to commend or complain. All they want is your money and thats the bottom line.No service or satisfaction for the customer. Read these posts there is no satisfaction here. Nothing but complaints of dissatisfaction.

Very nice Sara Lee website. Wonder why IBC never advanced to that point where you can apply on line, or even see the job openings? What a joke.

Not only are the bakeries obselete, look at the age of our trucks, many qualify for antique plates.

Name: Saleman night and day Location:Henderson, NV Comment: The sara lee product I see on the market is good John C. we all know you have been seen buying Sara lee product stop bragging about it where is your loyalty............oh ya its to yourself ....big wave from 27

Who would want to purchase a bunch of outdated and obsolete bakeries? No one. Only valuble asset is the brand names. Except for 1 or 2 bakeries the rest is like an old neighborhood. They are all tear downs. The end is near. Money is running out.

"D" be happy you don't have Drakes. They have a special area at the landfill just for Drakes. Donut bites suck everywhere

Well another day gone and we all still have our jobs. Bow down to the Great Twinkie God for that. Hey boyz-how are you all doing in your areas?? In the Pacific NW, people really hate those damn donut bites.

The sara lee product I see on the market is good, and ours just sinks, and never sales. Why would someone buy something that is flat and shabby next to a product that really is holding their own. Hey, whats the number to Sara Lee, I'd like to call about a job. Please post it, or at least provide some direction. At least they get uniforms that don't have holes in them like we have. It's a shame. Anyway, anyone have the info on how to find out about Sara Lee job openings?

Capt., thanks for the info. That is what I have heard all along. We are like a Zombie, keep chopping off our limbs,part by part , and we keep surviving .Today,I found out Dunkies are going up. Actually,I found out before on this very website.My supervisor did not tell me and, we are required to have daily contact. What is the purpose , if they do not know what is going on . I will just base my decisions by reading this website.On a lighter note, I will comment on Tony A. We nicknamed him Touchdown Tony ,Tony the tiger,and last but not least Pacman Tony waka, waka ,waka C.................

Brain N, I couldn't agree with you more. I am a manager for Sara Lee and love to come on here and watch you all fight with eachother. (it's kind of like watching Jerry Springer) If you truly are good employees leave IBC and come to work for a winner. I did 10 years ago. If you are a loser and deserve IBC stay there and keep on bitching Im having fun watching you.

To annon I agree with most of what you said about the 3 losing their jobs except for the union part. WHY SHOULD THESE 3 BE REPRESENTED AT ALL! Its opinions like that that make me resent unions. Stealing is stealing and in no way should the union try to keep their jobs. They deserve to be fired period.

Don't bother with a strike. Tony A. and staff are doing the finishing touchup on the sell off. Northeast sold to Flowers ( june 26, signing). Northern Midwest to bimbo shortly after. IBC will retain southeast and westcoast, and south. Go ahead Webboy delete this too.

You don't suppose Concerned Mom is a LotLizard, do you???

Just found out the court ruled IBC can recalculate retirees helt care cost, 65 or over will now pay 936,00 per month, under 65 is 405.00 each for the retiree, and the spouse. Way to go Alverez, stick it to people that were loyal employees for many years, hope you clowns get your day. His next step will be to announce more plant closings, and cut more routes. By the time he is done there won't be very much left.

The company should fire most of the employees includeing themselves and then shut the doors.

mr forbes pleased stop the bleeding how much more business are we going to give away.i just went from 8 ft of space in a shop rite to 2.thank you very much therenis a cost to doing business but we refuse to pat.it has been like this for 5yrs.cut cut cut could not even shelve talkers.sara lee please bail us out !!

Brian, I'm sure! You shut up. This resembles ENRON. Our executives are now sucking our last dollars out of this business, they all got new cars yet we at the plant levels don't get a dime. We have worked our butts off and have had it. Yes, we have our eyes open for new jobs but we really cant get a new job tonight. Thank you for being so compassionate. What's your phone number so I can call you. Thanks.

HEY CONCERNED MOM WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING HANGING OUT BEHIND A WALMART ANYWAY???? NOTHING THERE BUT TRUCKS WITH GUYS IN THEM!! MMMMMMMMMM?????

I heard they play enough in the shipping department, shame shame and their supposed to be married, well one of them is anyways, the other is just a hootchie looking to move up.. hes using you idiot get a clue will ya.

First off its not a false rumor, at the next union meeting coming up, it will be announced that they are going on strike, and secondly yes three drivers got fired for stealing time , first driver would punch the other two in and then the last driver would punch everyone out, they were ratted out by a fellow employee, and they checked the driving logs with the punch out times and walla three fired truckers.. Maybe they ought to start checking the work time with the break times in the cafe huh.. there would be alot more firings, ,more than half the plant.

heard three transport drivers got fired in biddeford me. about time

who is talking strike and for what reason. must be false rumor

Come on shipping, you wanted to play. So lets play the game!

If you really want to talk about the big money call John Suckow at corporate 816-502-4402, he's got the reins financially right now and I'm sure he'll give you specifics if you want it.

Annon in Hodgkin- did anyone recently read the posting on the web about a federal bankruptcy judge giving the O.K. for IBC to pay 14million in bonus to the same corporate excecs who drove us to bankruptcy!!WOW...how can stratagy like that save a paper route not to mention a corporation like IBC.. Yes, and here's the scoop on the bonus payments that went to a select FEW: It's called the Key Employee Retention Plan (KERP). Handpicked people get it, only 500 managers accross the country. They get big bucks on either making it out of BK or liquidation and the payout is going to be in August, or after the financials are completed. Everyone who got the secret letters informing them that they would get this payment (a nice big percentage of their annual pay) were asked in a letter from Alvarez to "keep it confidential", or secret but the BK info is public now. Basically it's a restructuring bonus and gets paid whether we liquidate or not. The BK posting information has the details, some people are getting 50% of their annual salaries. Nice, huh?

Heard the same rumor about the strike. I can't believe their talking strike at this point, i just want to yell out HELLOOOOOOO STUPID PEOPLE, are you asking to lose your jobs or what... this company wouldnt last one week on strike, that would be the end of it.....

Wow i didnt think you people could get any dumber, my bad.. I hear your going on strike in two weeks...... haaaa... do you have jobs lined up? cause your going to need them because only an idiot doesnt know if this company goes on strike thats the end of it....but then again i should of known a bunch of union people wouldnt know that. Good luck in your job searches.... maybe you all can get into pratt whitney with Moe, you'll all have a reference..

to chris pemberton looking for a job at ibc.......... i think we are only hiring through temps agencies right now but glad to see your enthusiasum

Only way the company will survive is to get rid of the present management upper levels. But nobody wants to do that as they are all friends and relatives living like kings making big money for nothing. It is hopeless. Seems like quanity is priority and quality is secondary. Just ask the shoppers,they are telling you right on this site. Nobody from regional ever responds. But there is no excuses they could give anyway. So shop WallMart Brands.

Is there something Grace should tell Mayo or is there something Mayo should tell Angela

To CONCERNED MOM: It must have been a Supervisor in the truck. Route guys don't have time for such things.

Little Barb are you still a little puppet sent out to do the dirty work? You must be pretty scared.

Anyone know a bout the big meeting on Thursday of this week. We are having a mandatory meeting Thursday. Don't sound too good.

Hey you no drakes is better here in nyc! Hostess cant compare, all i no is i had a 9000.00 dollar route with drakes only. Now i have 7000.00 if iam lucky, with both drakes hostess. And i can tell you drakes sells 5 to 1 over hostess. Oh yea but what do i no this company is in bankruputcy! ... Well I Know You Cant Spell Worth A Dam.

Keep posting away boys! We are always being read. Somebody might take these comments , and actually use them as a suggestion in a meeting. They might even get a promotion out of it.If nothing else it make you feel better . Like a cup of chicken noodle soup for you midwesterners, Clam chowder for you Chowda heads in the East , and last but not least Salmon soup for you West Coasties.Also, tortilla soup for those in the South.

Sorry, I meant to say racks improperly tagged.

What happened in Florida? I know we have many Floridians out there. Speak now or forever be silent.Also, what happens when a cost center shuts down. Does that involve alot of people? I know we have someone in mgt. reading these posts ,that can answer that anon of course.

Good morning "D", I was on earlier , but did not post. Hey, say hi to my brother that lives in Seattle. To Anon in Emporia, you bring up some good points, but it will never happen. Also, what is happening to the loaders in Emporia ? Do you have alot of new loaders up there. They do not even sign their name on the load sheet anymore. Racks are being properly tagged . It makes us look like a bunch of thieves with all the load adjusts. I was asked ,why I had so many load adjusts. That is the way mgt. acts towards rsr's in this company.

I HAVE BEEN A ROUTE MAN FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THIS COMPANIES BIGGEST ENEMY IS THEMSELVES.I MEAN THE PEOPLE MAKING THE STUPID AND USELESS DECISIONS THAT WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH HAVE NO IDEA ......NO IDEA!!!!!! WHAT ROUTE SALES IS LIKE.....THEY NEED TO GET OUT ON THE STREET IN A ROUTE TRUCK....NOT A TAURUS....THIS IS NOT A JOB THAT CAN BE RUN OR SUPERVISED FROM A DESK. NO TWO ROUTES ARE ALIKE..NO TWO STORE MGRS ARE ALIKE...AND NO TWO DAYS ARE ALIKE. YOU CANNOT LEARN THIS TRADE IN A BOOK...AND A COLLEGE DEGREE WON'T DO YOU ANY GOOD AT ALL......LEARN IT ON THE STREET ....TO ALL YOU SALES MGRS AND ABOVE...IF YOU WANT TO SAVE THIS COMPANY YOU SHOULD CONSIDER YOUR MOST VALUABLE RESOURSE.......YOUR RT.SALESMAN......BECAUSE A GOOD ONE KNOWS WHAT IT TAKES TO BE SUCCESSFUL....AND HE DIDN'T READ IT IN A BOOK OR HEAR IT IN A BOARD ROOM!!!!

I would like to hear from some more West Coasties..............And where are the boys?? Just because it's Sunday, doesn't mean you don't have anything to say...Doop? Twinkie?

Referesh my memory was their a major restructure done in florida? What Happen? Heard a rumor of more restrucuring to happen soon in the midwest. I wonder in the planing of this if Mr Alverez will make certain remarks like: 1 I want routesalesmen out there, not drivers who are runing and dumping. 2 Routes should be set up on a 45-50 hour a week basis; therefore, when adverse wheather hits, trucks breakdown, hot ads, or unexpected problems happen the driver can respond imediately. 3 Lower the number of accidents and increase proper ordering by not having exhausted drivers at the end of the day due to poor route structure 4 START PRIOR PROPER PLANING IN ALL AREAS 5 Start comunicating with your Routesalesmen 6 If you cannot do the job as well as your worse routesalesman then quit or have your senior routesalesman train you to do the job 7 Its all about net sales keep combo (Bread/Cake) routes to a minium, a salesmen who can concentrate on one specfic job has a definite advantage over someone who has to do two or three. 8 WE MUST WORK ON INCREASING RESPECT OF OUR MANGEMENT TEAM AND BE CONSISTANT IN WHAT WE DO.

did anyone recently read the posting on the web about a federal bankruptcy judge giving the O.K. for IBC to pay 14million in bonus to the same corporate excecs who drove us to bankruptcy!!WOW...how can stratagy like that save a paper route not to mention a corporation like IBC..

meetings last week in kcmo. heard some of profit centers may close. too bad lenexa isn't one of them

Goodness, it looks like all of my boys had something to say today! DOOP-cool undercover identity...I have something to say about Twinkies. I ate two of them last week and I didn't throw up. I did, however, have the runs for a day and a half! Not a good advertisement for our fine products. The creme filling does work as mousse for your hair, but it tends to attract bees, little kids and fat guys. I signed my name backwards and none of you noticed. Webmaster-I love you for letting so many of the gang's posts to remain.

we were plussed out a whole lot of snack twinkies.all our displays were alreeady full. my supervisor told me to tell some accounts t5o let me put in backroom and wait till the price went back up to 79 and tnen give them credit they could make .27 cents each in less than 2 weeks. we are really smart.

Drakes is #1 in New York City, that is why they are so nasty. I wouldn't feed that crap to prisoners on death row.