To Cry Me a River: If you did insult me , then I accept your apology. Some Hostess guy from C.A. is the one that insulted me without justification. Anyways, I know alot of times people agree to disagree.This site is a place to blow off alot of steam and be creative at the same time. If someone wants to comment on any of my statements, they can constructively put me in my place.I am not always right in my posts, but most of the time a little humor goes a long way.Life will continue after I.B.C. I look forward to making $50,000 a year , and working 9-5 at another job.Now, I am getting way to serious.............

what is an H.R. office? are those actually people working there?

Has anyone heard anything about the production / distribution agreement IBC has reached with another company in the NW?

Shipping, this is for all of you know it alls. STFU unless you know what you are talking about. You know who you are! Leave Chris out of your gossip.

new textwork in all schools this fall. taking honest abe lincoln out of all history books -replacing them with honest mike t. mcdaniel.

Re: when the Lakewood bakery opened over five years ago this new hire told the forman ?if you want me to rebag buns with these dirty hands you better get a manager over here to tell me to do it?. Our hands were dirty black from the trays and racks that sat in storage. The forman got a manager who told the new hire to rebag with his dirty hands, and he did it. The next day the new hire was sent over to the bread tail off belt and has not come back to the bun line during the past five years. Ok Moral of the story: Always wear your gloves, be ready to asist in any part of the plant, if you were my new hire I would have bonced you for insubordination, do as your told be smart enough to go wash up. Have you guys ever heard of nitril gloves like medical kind all our mechnic's keep some to cover thier grundge when we need them to help rack off. WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO GET THE PRODUCT OUT!! use common sense its FREE

when the Lakewood bakery opened over five years ago this new hire told the forman ?if you want me to rebag buns with these dirty hands you better get a manager over here to tell me to do it?. Our hands were dirty black from the trays and racks that sat in storage. The forman got a manager who told the new hire to rebag with his dirty hands, and he did it. The next day the new hire was sent over to the bread tail off belt and has not come back to the bun line during the past five years.

Another point of release for Plt 27 http://ibcglendaleblog.blogspot.com/

Re: Is Jose Lopez still at the Henderson bakery? It was rumored that he was leaving? If so why? Do you know how many Jose's we have here?

Is Jose Lopez still at the Henderson bakery? It was rumored that he was leaving? If so why?

Petro-man you do not want our HR (wicked)manager. But from what I can tell every plant HR manager thinks they are way above the labor laws. They know every way possible to make life living hell for employees.

Ok students lets report back on this as soon as possible. We have four new opening that are availible to those that are interested. Bakery Sanitation Manager in Memphis, TN. Plant Manager in Rocky Mount, NC. Assistant field HR Managerin Phiadelphia, PA. Production Managerin Alexandria, LA. if you are interestered in these job postings see your nearest HR department. Also what we would like to know is the people that occupied those jobs before they became vacant. What happened to them? Did they retire, quit, get fired or die from the additional work loads? Please report back as soon as possible.

the chicago northside division is the best at picking up trays and baskets. ask milton williams...

You won't hear any more barehanded bun rebag stories until around the forth of July. Then we can also talk about how the bread and rolls hit the floor when the bakery runs out of equipment because it is sitting out side most of the Jewel and Dominick stores. I will be in the Hodgkins plant around that time so I will keep you posted. we at the chicago northside division always bring back our trays and baskets. too bad you have some sitting outside jewel and dominik's. me personnaly, i always bring all my trays and baskets in every day. tell me more bun rebag stories...

To anon in C.A.(Hostess): A special request song just for you. " And the cradle will rock"..........Wah , Wah, Wah!!!!!!!!!!!

D, I guess Hillbilly means I am from C.A. Goodnight Granny, goodnight Jethro, goodnight Elly Mae, goodnight Jed, goodnight John boy? That must be the Hillbilly in me coming out . John boy was from the Waltons. I just wanted to see if Anon was paying attention .

D, I guess it is my turn now! Somebunny from Hostess C.A. Anon, or is it A- - h--e, doesn't like me. I have never been insulted personally ,on this site before.Actually, I thought the "song of the day", is creative.Every once in awile I get serious on my posts. Also, I get serious when I am working .I am #1 in my division sales.Take a chill pill anon , and suck on a couple cold ones . D, I had two barbecues this weekend . My wife had a birthday recently and we just got back. Much to my dismay this guy from C.A. ruins my weekend. I will post a special song just for him in the near future . Have a Wonderful day at work tommorrow. I know I will.

Great Monday in the plant at Rocky Mount, All four lines ran smooth, Damage next to none, Nice weather to sell all our product. No problem with the P & L this holiday.

Millbrook people, Please, if you are going to insult me, do it right! The name is phat phuck (lower case please), not PHAT PHUCK. If you did not like my "Brand X" comment, sue me or kiss my a$$. I am still asking, what ever appened to that flake in your shipping department? Is he banging his head against a rubber wall somewhere or did he finally quit?

You won't hear any more barehanded bun rebag stories until around the forth of July. Then we can also talk about how the bread and rolls hit the floor when the bakery runs out of equipment because it is sitting out side most of the Jewel and Dominick stores. I will be in the Hodgkins plant around that time so I will keep you posted.

I was also a drakes rep running 7200,now with both hostess & drakes cannot hit 6000,A shame they purchased Drakes to drag it down with them.

great mon. had low stale and low carry over ran 9600 last week rest of the week looks good

We're sunk, our HR office sucks. What a mess. Billings, you must have it nice compared to us.

Hey razz,you and your hillibilly friends are so dumb.Go and post on another site.

OK gang post your sucesses and failures for this holiday...........the GOOD AND THE BAD WHO DID GOOD, WHO DID NOT SO GOOD, AND WHO DID NOTHING............ What can we do better for the 4TH???????

I.B.C. song of the day:"Do it in the name of bankruptcy. You can justify it to the judge. There won't be any trumpets blowing , come the bakery closure day. On the bloody morning after er, er, er, one tin employee walked away......

i sure do miss you guys--be gone a yr. on friday. cant believe they let me go ---hard -honest- truthful-dedicated worker that i was.

new song of the day---take this job and shove it.

well, some more about barehanded bun bagging. hmm, it seems to me that the practice is not limited to hodkins and milwaukee as i thought. they do it up in the northwest too. anymore barehanded bun bagging stories, please post.

rest up, everyone. tommorow will be interesting. let's get out there and see how much crap didn't sell. get ready to move shit around all week. take your happy asses to bed early so you can get up early and start draggin' bread all over the A.O.

God bless all our vets and thank you for your efforts!

we checked ups tracking for your 1/2 ding dong the ups number you posted is not in the ups system

it's all ralston purina's fault in selling ibc a bill of goods and forcing them to keep the dead wood hostess people who were prima donna's that threw fits if they didn't get thier way or tons of cash. They who threw the biggest fits got the biggest portion of the pie. They were bankrupting purina and then ibc let them slither in and do the same for IBC

Re: Boy! Did I make a mistake. I never worked with so many whiners in my life. I getting out of here as fast as I can! Where back to OROWEAT?? BYE!!!!!

Boy! Did I make a mistake. I never worked with so many whiners in my life. I getting out of here as fast as I can!

To my friends and the new friends who recently joined this site-Happy Memorial Day to you and yours. Thanks for the kind words and backup! So far...one BBQ down, one to go. Lot's of IBC products at today's cookout, we'll see about tomorrows'. Ciao and CHOW!!

What Mel....you mean Melanie Bonam? I guess that's how you get those jobs. That's how she got it and kept it . "What happened to Mel? What's the deal? " "now that mel is gone lori d from lenexa will take over. she has already DONE all of lenexa to get where she is. amazing how you can play soliatare all day and make 40,000 plus. then get a promo. wonder why ibc is bk."

I got the plug on Lost too. Thought it was cute. How much did that cost us?

Thats right no money in private label no matter what volume you sell. Unless I am wrong and you have to pay the bakers less to make the p/l, the gas to bake cost less and the ingredients cost less so Weston can have the walmart p/l in florida for 55 cents a loaf. Have fun Arnold how much more are you making

Hey to all the drakes people, if any on this board give a shout out. I used to run 8500.00 no problem with just drakes . Now i have hostess and run less. The company wants to give me more stops and restruture my route.I say just let me sell drakes and i wont have any problems

Dennis, 7500, no PL, and 110 miles per day.

Weston and Flowers can do private label all day long . I.B.C has finally figured out that it is not profitable. Good luck! I see them tote in a ton of bread and not much in net sales.

I.B.C. song of the day: "No matter what they take (Benefits, Pension, Pay) , from me. They can't take away my dignity ...... Because the greatest gift is being able to find another job.

D, Anon in Indy is on your side!Stay positive and good things will happen . Personally, we are cooking a brisket as I post. Everyone have a Bunderful weekend!

RE: Comment: "we rebagged buns many times before too, BUT WE USED PLASTIC GLOVES DUMBASSES!!! NOT BARE HANDED!!!" We re-bag buns without gloves. We use hands that are filthy from the dirty trays and dirty racks. We do this often. We are not allowed to wash our hands just to re-bag buns. I do not know of any plastic gloves in the bakery. My family and I do not eat IBC products.

What Local is blue falcon a member of? With all the problems of IBC, you morons in Cincinnati only have some as small as logging you p.m. work times on your sheets. I wouldn't call you stupid, I would call you ignorant.

Hey Falcon, No wonder you guys have the highest downtime in the PC. Your plant has the stupidiest engineers. Pm's can help you in many ways. But I'm sure by the way it sounds anything I tell you is far above your heads. Everyone knows or has heard about Cincy's engineers (back yard mechanics).

Hey Blue Falcon, you are the moron. A good PM, and pre flight system does work in reducing downtime, if it didn't there would be planes falling out of the sky every day. You sound like whay we call a tool bearer, that is some one who just hands tools to the good mechanics when something breaks. Put some effort into pm's and you will be suprised.

Hey salesmen what did you book last week? 10,900 here. No wal mart, costco etc

Wonderful Grammar, Mr. (?) Cry Me a River.

What is so amazing about posting a letter on a website. It sounds to me like you make things up in your mind then start believing them.

Big Deb are you angry because you are losing control over the employee? You should be fired for the way you have treated the employees in Billings.Can you control your emotios without getting angry?

The morons incharge of our engineering department thinks logging the time spent doing our preventative maint. will lower the downtime in the plant. It's been tried before. Another favor of the month. They even brought the vice president in to help convince us.

hey jamaica i hear stan is coming there for awhile good luck he gives dumb polock a new name its his way or no way he sucks

i work in the philadelphia plant we did not get a 60 day notice the keystone depot did and oxford depot did as well if any 1 needs info on philly plant just ask

to Mo, personally I think cry me a river is a woman and jealous.thats what it sounds like to me. you go D.

this is my 1st time here, so bear with me. what is wrong with you guys always jumping on D? at least her letters make me laugh. I'm no brain surgeon but I can see sarcasm where you can't. you guys sound like first grade bullies. picking on the little girl who gets all A's. I would rather be with D and her gang then with a bunch of downers like you.(cry me a river,J,crusty)

ABC network tv show "LOST" plugs twinkies in the script of sunday nights episode. This show could actually cast the the present team in charge in KC with the same results.

Cry etc........YES I am happy, now and most of the time as a matter of fact. I'm a very happy person with a beautiful family around me for a fantastic weekend. Are YOU happy??

maybe we can rebag all the buns that were already rebagged before. barehanded, of course.

eddie booker is the "plus master extrordinaire". good luck next week when the shit all starts to come back. and what is he gonna do with all that extra shit he ordered. wer'e gonna be taking out old bread all fuckin' week...rotate it out, jason.

Is Big De going to be mad on tuesday after reading the post below about her behavior and attitude.BIG DEB PLEASE RESIGN.

Oh Ya this poster is the one that named you that anyway IC you like it

Re: : phat phuck Location:Pomona, CA Comment: Wont be long before the demise of Brand X. Millbrook's end is near. Where's that Shipping guy of yours? Is he still locked away at the Looney House? Cramer your one of the MORONS that has always referred to us as BRAND X please get your head out of Coopers ass and take a breath once in a while! Thanks to People like you IBC is where its at today . at least you have your name right PHAT PHUCK ..............

Happy Memorial Day weekend to even YOU, J and Cry me a River, wherever you live, since you never put it in your posts. Give it a rest guys...you are the only ones dragging it out. I'm going to go enjoy my beautiful family and friends and BBQ the day away. Lots if sun in our area, Gang, and lots of product selling!!

Cowboy,D,T.T.K., puddin', Capt.,Doopster have a Wonderful weekend.Also, Razz, lifer Z, R.I.L.F.,Raspberry Ima lifer Z. (Wait a minute , that is me). See D, go enjoy time with your family, I know I will.

I.B.C. song of the day:" I know nothin' stays the same , and if your not willin' to put out ,Tony wil be coming around again".Chop , chop, chop.........

To Anon in Philly:You could not be closer to the truth,but alot of us will have new jobs come august.With direct/ship on the horizon, this company will not be worth working for anymore. It is not only Walmart asking for direct/ship.C-store chains are asking for and receiving this type service from other companies. This is not a new concept, but these stores wil once again try this through their grocery delivery system. I was talking to a mgr. from a nationwide C-store chain this past week. I asked if it was working out well. The response was that they had run out of product, because not enough was ordered. The next week the product was not shipped from the warehouse. It is bad enough when we are short on load. What do these stores do when their truck only comes 1-2 times a week. They will lose customers and sales.These are impulse items that need to be stocked and rotated. We all know customers will shop elsewhere for product. Walmart are you listening.

Wont be long before the demise of Brand X. Millbrook's end is near. Where's that Shipping guy of yours? Is he still locked away at the Looney House?

today, we were forced to put out a shitload of product. it's gonnasell, they said. this is gonna be a good wekend. a lot of people are going to be out grilling. it better not rain...

Good luck on your law suite cincinci, i TRIED TO SUE MYSELF BU NO LUCK. They have their butt covered pretty well. if you get termijated there you probably needed it

Gee lets see 8500.00 rote avg. sounds good now if i can only get displays dont have any. Stickers no more left .Point of sales signs not ordering. Cut cake always plused cake dont need. My route truck shold be put out to pasture. Hey sure no problem ibc ,keep up the good work. I could go on and on but i dont wanna say to much you might figure out whats really going on!

a lot of sprucin up is going on,a lot of future unemployed upper management are very chipper, hhmmmm

To Doopie, R I L Z, Puddin', Capt. C, & T the K (who is sadly missed) and also to ALL of the other employees who work hard for this Co.-Have a fantastic Memorial Day weekend. Enjoy your families, BBQ's, fishing, etc. and let all of your worries go for a while. Let's all pause and think about those who have defended our country and others, sometimes losing life or limb to do so. I am truly grateful for all of them and the sacrifices they have made to protect us all. Like my dad, one of the dwindling number of WW2 vets, who also served in Korea and Vietnam, and for a while in the Royal Air Force..these people deserve our love and respect. Happy weekend all of you!! Make your time with family count.

I'm with you Buffalo NY wife, same story in my household. There have been entire weeks that go by where our kids don't see their dad at all. When he does get a day off, he is so exhausted he nods off during any family activities we try to do. This company used to have a great product and a great reputation. Hostess/Wonder Bread was a part of American life for years. I can't believe they are running it into the ground the way they are. Let the employees buy out the company and run it the way it used to be, with pride.

I am a wife of a route salesman that has worked his ass off for this company for 13 years. I watched him go to work with a broken arm, pulled muscles, sometimes sicker then a dog. Not once has he ever missed a day. He comes home sometimes so exhausted all he does is grab a bite to eat and then he falls asleep without getting a chance to see his kids. And for what? This company and its management is a joke. This company should at least be honest with these men who go out and put their product on the shelves of all these stores, but they come into town and give them a line of shit and lie to them. They don't have the decency to tell them the truth. Maybe now these men will get a chance to work for a company that will appreciate what they do and how hard they work.

for cinci inquire: file with the eeoc and if they refuse to meet with you then sue them in federal court. you can sue even if they are in chap 11. you can also get free attorney info on line, write your local politicians they will help also. it take time and work but don't let the bastards win. need any more help let me know?

i want to get our message across. we may not be closing, but this may be worse. the people who run this bakery are a bunch of sissies. jerry kemp is a fag, and randy vaulk fucks his ass. is this too graphic? you should know the rest...

do we need more centrella hots and hams rebagged? barehanded?

by the way, most of these posts from hodgkins are by the same guy. i have to go to bed now, so i can get up early and go hump bread. but if it's all the same to everybody: fuck jerry kemp, tony izzo (although i like him cuz he's italian) dan dorr, dan ainge, randy vauk, carl saks, don orsisni, mike o'brien(the fat prick), all the division managers(bunch of suck-ups) that brad guy from somewhere, and the brent guy from somewhere else, along with natron means-err i mean anton means, i must throw in larry klausen(santa klaus) and the whole bunch of shit eatin' company dick suckin' motherfuckers who think they know more than anybody else everything about the bread buisness !!! good night...

All product will be baked out of Pomona Bakery starting the end of June. Right now millbrook trucks are being fitted with new rails to fit wonder pallets. Yes the merger will happen sometime in August.

I.B.C. song of the day: "It's been a hard days night ,and I've been working like a dog." "It's been a hard days night , and I've been treated like a dog."

D, Go back to having fun posting.I was going to respond with something positive.Throwing insults tends to incite these idiots into saying deragotory statements. I always enjoy reading your posts.Have a wonderful weekend.

Home of the free and the brave. Post away people, it is very therapeutic. Post,post , post , while Tony Chops, chops, chops!!!

Max-I can honestly say I have never in my life claimed to have "tan lones". What the heck are they anyway?????? Oh and to the big, brave man who claimed to be My Husband....get a grip. As long as we're being honest here, I will tell you that I am 5'5", I weigh 125lbs. and my measurements can be found further back on this site when I set another idiot straight who tried to pull the "I bet you're fat" line. I do not eat Twinkies, or any other of the so called snack products, and for good reason. I have an AutoImmune Disease (look it up) and I can't eat any fatty foods. So please come up with a better diss. I spend all of an hour on the net each day, answering e mails and TCB. Thank you for your concern about my weight though. It was very sweet of you. My REAL husband is a route driver here in the NW, with a great big grin on his face. So if that was an attempt at a proposal, I have to say NO. Thanks anyway. Hey Razz, what do you think??

I was terminated earlier this year by IBC.I thought it was unfair the way they did it.I am thinking of filing a lawsuit against them.Does anyone know if you can sue a company that is under BK? Any help would be apreciated.

anybody know about the millbrook drivers being told that all the millbrook codes will change over to wonder codes,is millbrook gone?are the route cuts coming?

These are the words used to describe Big Deb's behavior "ARROGANT CRITICAL,DICITATORSHIP POWER HUNGRY UNFAIR MEAN INSENSITIVE EGOTISTICAL SELFISH MANIPULATIVE PEOPLE USER.""TO GET ALONG GO ALONG" WHAT HAPPENS IN BILLINGS STAYS IN BILLINGS" KEEP YOUR MOUTH CLOSED AND YOUR EYES SHUT ON WHAT GOES ON HERE" Big Deb get yourself some professinal help for your emotional problems.You need it by the way you treat the Billings employees.

"D" You need to go do them dishes that are piled in the sink, or vacum the rugs, we are not interested in your tan lones or your dribble. Give us a break and go do something worthwhile.

Is everyone ready for the pending bun catastrope this wekkend? we should sabotage the whole holiday thing for hodgkins just for the hell of it !!! FUCK 'EM ALL !!!

"D" I bet you are a big fat fucking pig that does nothing but sit in a chair and eat twinkies and type on these message boards all day.

OOOh-all you Big Bad meanies are really hurting my feelings. I think I will cry myself to sleep. Obviously you need a life if a post on a site where you are allowed to say whatever you think upsets you, I have an 800 # for a great psychiatrist who would love to give you an appointment. And, no I am not one of his patients! There, I said it for you to save wear and tear on your keyboard and your delicate fingertips. Oh and by the way, I'm not a truck driver from Arkansas' wife, or I would be spelling and using bad grammar just like you do. I'm going to go tend to my little hurt feelings now. BooHoo.

hey, barehanded bun bagger in milwaukee, maybe then it is time for jerry kemp to leave. i'll work on it. anyone have any objections?

my name is dick and my last initial is s. of course i won't use my last name just yet.

WHATS UP CHICKENFOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

to the guy in milwaukee who bags buns barehanded: this very interestiing that jerry kemp knows this is going on and does nothing about it. i am going to forward info from this site to healthcare proffessionals in the tri-state area and see what they think. maybe charges are in order? someone should do something about this. given the fact that all these guys do is sit around in their company cars and scratch their asses all day, they should be the last people in the world to be bagging buns barehanded!

So far so good here. good weather and the product is available

Keep guessing shipping boys!!!!!!!!!!!!

Under our dictatorship, we have no morale, It seems like our HR manager( who is really running our plant) wants to be total control of the employees. She does not want them to speak out and tell how us employees are being treated with little respect. She told employees that who ever writes comments on this site will be reteliated on. Goodluck to the people in the eastern part of the country. God Bless

I bag buns bare handed during all holidays, I am an expert at 2 pack BDJ. this is our common practice, ask Jerry Kemp he is well aware of this. But when asked or questioned about his unethical practices he will state" this is the first time I am aware of it" he should be terminated. He has caused many to leave, (comptroller, DSM, DM, the list goes on and on.

In reference to the post below: I have read numerous post from "D" and I think she needs a life. There is no reason to post anything referencing gay etc.. D must be a truck drivers wife (smart one) from arkansas Name: "D" Location:Seattle, WA Comment: Hey ANONYMOUS-You are so original...no one else has ever thought of THAT name. At least "D" is my REAL first initial. Grow up....I bet you're gay too, what do you think DOOP? RAZZ?

Whoever is now posting under the name Dick is not the person you are thinking of . If you want to say something , have the courage to use your own name.

Whoever is now posting under the name Dick is not the person you are thinking of . If you want to say something , have the courage to use your own name.

Tony A.---- 3 delivery boys----0

i personally "teabag" every hostess pie i get withing range of at the bakery....

Hey ANONYMOUS-You are so original...no one else has ever thought of THAT name. At least "D" is my REAL first initial. Grow up....I bet you're gay too, what do you think DOOP? RAZZ?

what county is hodgkins in? cook, dupage? i'm going to find out and refer them to this site so they can see what we're up to at the hodgkins bakery. bagging product barehanded, indeed. i know a guy that might be interested in this story. his name is Chuck Goudie, from channel seven investigative reports...

To anonymous: if you have actually seen that, then this i think is something the world should know. maybe they spit in the dough, too. but, nobody knows...

we rebagged buns many times before too, BUT WE USED PLASTIC GLOVES DUMBASSES!!! NOT BARE HANDED!!!

To Hodgkins plant, You must not work in the plant. I have been in your plant several times and watched the roll and bread operators guide product with their unprotected hands all day long, Pick product off the floor before a holiday and feed it back on the line during a holiday run because the sales people are to lazy to get the equipment back to the bakery, ( Racks and trays). But then again nobody knows.

speaking of morons, where is don orsini?

the northside division, that is.

when they close this division, some developer is going to make a ton of money on this property. maybe i.b.c. should go into the realty buisness and develop this land themselves. makes a lot more sense than letting some other guy make a killing off this property.

FLOWERS RSR: You Must Be In Georgia Or Some Other Southern State Where Flowers Does Well. That Is Like Frito Lay Saying They Dominate The Market In Dallas, Texas. Around Here Flowers Cant Keep Anybody On The Routes. They Just Arent Selling Much And The Routes Arent Nearly Big Enough For Flowers To Sell. And As Bad A Shape As IBC Is In They Wont Be Shutting Down.

" "D" Location:Seattle, WA Comment: to the anonymous MORON who was offended by my statement-GROW UP. If you feel the need to sign in as ANONYMOUS, then obviously YOU have something to be ashamed of. " What do you have to say about yourself? I guess being "D" is better than being anonymous........... NOT You are as lame as your wannabe tan lines!!

Dick, nice post ! Boy the truth hurt's . It sure is a shame M. Haney has been in Buffalo for over Three years and still hasn't been to many of his branche's. He probally couldn't find them with ON-STAR .Once agian Nice post Dick.

some one might be intersted in this. keep the feedback comming.

yeah, but it's a shitty practice. someone is going to buy those buns, with the someone's epidermic secretions on them. would you buy them if you knew? oh, but wait, no one knows. it's shit like that that has this company in the state it's in right now.

The rebagging of rolls on a holiday has been going on for over 20 years. At the old Chicago south plant when we used up all our freezer stock and Domincs Nancy Martin wanted more we gave them what ever we could find. Why would one want to bring it up now, At least they are selling.

as an IBC employee, this company really seems to be cutting it's own throat.... poor management decisions will be the cause of the fate of the company. No company will ever survive when they begin cutting at the bottom. Complete managment restructuring is the only thing that can save this company. Quality has gone downhill, and now pulling out of profitable areas and making routes impossible to run will only further the situation IBC has found itself in. When a company can lie to their employees such as they did today (saying they know nothing, yet had already sent a letter to the unions stating exactly which branches were closing) it's hard to wonder how you have worked for and been loyal to them for so long

to FLOWERS RSR: You Guys Cant Give A Loaf Of Bread Away In Our Area. But You Do Pick Up A Lot More Stale Than Anyone Else.

dominik's, country's delight, hmm..

I.B.C. song of the day: "God Bless the U.S.A.", I'm proud to be an American".-Lee Greenwood Have a Wonderful weekend.

well, well, well. it seems that there aren't enough country's delight hots and hams to be had so... an ibc manager was seen switching dominiks buns into country's delight bags-with his bare hands ! what would the board of health have to say about that ? word has it that someone recorded it with their camera phone...more to come.

hey dick,what does it look like on the senority list,how many years to keep a route?

7 branches notified of closing today ,effective date july 31st. they will leave 3 of the buffalo branches open, bflo, roch @ Syr. the dummys think they can keep some of the outlying areas and run out of those branches that are left. It's been tried, don't work and can't keep people on those routes, safety is the major factor, the IBC idiots don't care but when someone get's killed I hope they get their ass in a jam. another quantum leap, how many will die running a 16 hour routes going 200 miles per day.With 60 routes left you need 6 div sales mgrs. period. I assume the management team of: MH, MC,AP,TR@RC probably will be sent out to pasture after they complete the dirty work of laying out the new routes. I also understand massive cuts in those 3 branches, $200 stops and P/L are gone, projected route average $3000 per week with 30% returns. Each and every day they prove that they have not a single clue, MH has not even been to most of those brances and can only get from LP to the plant and some days he get's lost just doing that. For some of the guys I feel bad but fate always takes care of the dirtbags, you know who you are? P.S> Packers are gone also...

hey buffaol,ny--how many routes were cut,and how many were left from this area?how far down the senority list did it go?

To Elmer-You rock Dude!! Keep on chowin' the products...you keep us all working! Love YA!

Long enogh to know that if I could find something better I would be there but I cant

statement came today... 98 job losses in northern ny, from buffalo on up. mass layoffs anticipated Last day of work is July 29th

to the anonymous MORON who was offended by my statement-GROW UP. If you feel the need to sign in as ANONYMOUS, then obviously YOU have something to be ashamed of.

hey philly thee 33 people being laid off is that all route people or combind thrift stores and inside.

hey, why don't we, the employees, buy this stupid company. then we can fire all the assholes who are running it into the ground and hire competent, hard working individuals that have at least some idea as to how you should run a buisness and manage personnel. the idiots who are doing it now don't have a fuckin' clue.

Terry R. is second best -----Gman is the best of the best ----bar none.

I agree with debbis b with what he says. It is the first intelligent thing that I seen on here.

hey dennis b. how much time do you have with ibc?

Just got notice today that trenton depot in new jersey is about to close.Thrift store to close also, heard 33 postions will be lost in the southern region. 8500.00 route avg. god knows what next !

stock watcher , get a life. if you own any of stock sell it now.and stay away from this site. T A,

The 60 day notices for the Philly plant are for the thrift stores not the main plant.

If nobody leaves a name on the post I dont read them. If Phily is going to close that means ibc is pulling out of the NE Jamacia cannot get enough product out to pickup the slack of buffalo and new bedford. I think that they are done closing bakeries in the NE for now. As Employees we should just go do our job and leave it at that. We cannot control what they are going to do. There is no sense getting hostile towards each other. I wish only the best for those who will be laid off(I too could be one), but remember, when one door closes another may open(with normal hours). I enjoy my job very much and if I lose it I will be upset. Its only bread

I don't know where people get their information from but as of 11:30am today May 26th, the Philly plant is remaining open. I have no idea of what the 60 day notice is. I read on the other messageboard where the person said that they were told yesterday they have 60 days. The funny thing is that everyone I talk to at Philly said they were not told this. I want to know just who told this person this . Personally, I think people start rumors just to get things going. If anyone seen the article in the Philly paper the company said Philly was not closing, that they were going to be sharing the work of the Bedford plant along with Bidderford and Jamaica. The company also posted notices in the plant about staying open so I would really like to know where that person got their info. Maybe the company is finally weeding out the people who are the least productive and they were given 60 days. Who knows? But before you all get so excited about Philly closing I would wait and see just what happens.

i hope the whole sorry company shuts down

Donut Bites are the future for IBC,just like the washing machine was for Montgomery Ward!

Schiller Park and Hodgkins doing great,lots of product going out ,as much overtime as you need,new displays,thiftstores have record sales this year.Contact men will have the new company cars soon,Just that Northside is going to be sold off and a few other depots with high value.Other than that ,clear sailing in Chicago thru this Bankruptcy!

Look out theres a new Sheriff in Shipping and he even cleaned up for his new parttime white hat status

Looks like both hogkins and schiller pk are doing just fine. No cuts at these 2 bakeries? These 2 bakeries must be making all the money?

To Roy S: Would you expect anything less from I.B.C. ? The thriftstores should have been shut down when we were making money. Now, they are only good for bringing in some dollars , so they can make payroll.If they were making a profit , we could shut down all the routes and open thrifstores nationwide. Wow, I will have to put that in the suggestion box. Oh, that's right, we do not have one.I have been told that some of the leases were at $5,000 a month. I guess, the person leasing the building is making a profit.Have a nice Holiday!Anyone, feel free to comment on this. I know mgt. reads these posts, just like the rest of us.

i think Terry R. is really o.k he does a good job. Hes still learning give him a chance.

Way To Go Mr. Wonderful from Columbus Ohio!!!!! My sentiments exactly. The delivery drivers work hard for this company, and work long hours. They deserve better. Twinkie the Kid-We miss you love, you are one of US forever!! Whoever the clown is that's trying to be you could never get close. You are an original. Keep popping in to see what the morons have to say.

Why do people post such stupid gossip like that last one regarding payroll?

The reason we have so few posts from the west coast is that my brothers and sisters think nothing is going to happen to us,that we will still keep making the same income,that our benefits will not be touched that life will go on as usual.WRONG!!! Time to wake and realize that the Co. will ask and take some of income and yes some of our benefits.

Anyone know if the closing of the buffalo bakery is included in the 1400 jobs cuts annouced last week. First off close all the thrift stores then see where th company stands. How they pay 3 employes 15 hr to sell 500 worth of product a day is beyond me

I have heard here lately a lot of talk from high sineority guys that they dont have anything to worry about. they better start--- when sara lee or someone else takes over ---they are going to be out the door just as well as everyone else.

Alverez is making a lot of short term decesions, he is not in it for the long haul, the long term result will be that he killed the company, but he dosen't care, by then he will have moved on to his next victim. How does Bob Morgan, and Mike Kafore continuie to survive? Alverez should have gotten their number by now.

Guys and Gals: I heard an employee say, that they believe what "Touchdown Tony" is doing is in the best interest of I.B.C. Somebody give me a corncob,I know what to do with it......

I.B.C. song/thought lf the day: "One Day At A Time".Repeat this over and over again.........The next thing you know ,it will be time to go home.

To Doesn't Matter in Cincy: I could not agree with you more.Do they realize even the Good employees are losing faith fast.

cutting that many routes is not the answer,the drivers will never get the stops done,alot of the stops in southern calif. are 6-10,or 7-11,no way can a driver get 10-15 chain stores done in 4 hours and fight all the traffic,let alone a full truck of product(wonder and millbrook on the same truck)accidents will be up,overtime will be out of sight,and service will go down,how can a salesman put up displays,sticker product,rotate properly,and get on there way ,just wait until the big holidays hit,there is no way to load your truck and hit all those stops,cutting over half the routes will kill this company(maybe this is what they want)tony needs to look at contact men,too many dead beat supervisors,and then the final thing to do is random drug testing,over half the drivers would be gone....

hey big D,what area does the west coast profit center cover and does the 200 routes include san diego,i have 13 years in,do you think that's enough to get a route?

HEY HEY LOTS OF LOVE TO MY GANG JUST CHECKING IN TO SAY WHATS UP!!! I SEE SOMEONE WANTS TO BE ME!!! NO ONE CAN BE !!! I'M THE ORIGINAL AND STILL THE BEST !!!!!! D MISS YOU!!!

Well The Hatchet Team Is In Cincinnati This Week; You Can Tell Supervision Is Scared To Death By The Looks On Their Faces. They Know That For This Plant To Live To Tell The Tale, Basically Only Two Things Are Going To Happen (a) That There Has To Be A Change In Management (b) Close The Plant At One Time We Produced A Quality Product; Now We Have Hogged Feed, Sales Down, Downtime At An All Time High, Managers Who Don?t Care Or Know. Good Employees Giving Up. I Hate To Say This To All My Brothers And Sisters Here At The Plant We Give It Our Best, But Sometimes That?s Just Not Enough. Good Luck Too All And I Wish The Rest Of IBC?s Employees Good Luck. Happy Holiday

Let me see, Memorial Day, and the Coke 600 in Charlotte this weekend. I think I feel the flu coming on.

If IBC could be compared to Star Wars would Tony A. be Darth Vader or the Evil Emporer? Stockholder is definitely part of the evil Empire. Just remember Stockloser if it wasn't for as you say "overpaid delivery boys" like me who go out and bust our butts for unappreciative people like you, you would'nt have a stock to watch. just remeber what goes around comes around you shall reap what you sow!!

REGARDING MILLBROOK LOS ANGELES the word is that IBC wants to cut 200 routes in the West Coast Profit Center. We are sopposed to hear sometime in June what is going to go down. YES, of course you may bump a Hostess driver, you can bump ANYONE in your local with less seniority.

W.B. I think you are exactly right..........Sara Lee, Flowers, and either Weston or Bimbo

Thanks Razz, I love you too!

Just curious? Who makes District Managers accountable? Seems to me they don't have anyone because work gets done, thanks to people under some of the not so bright district managers!>

D, This song goes out to you . RESPECT.

Hey Razz & Doop-Who is the moron in Kansas who thinks he can use our Twink's name?? Try to be a little more original.......Puddin'?? Capt?? What do you think? You know, this company used to be HUGE and have very faithful customers. The products were much better in the 70's, fresher and better tasting. Are you higher ups really willing to let this ship sink??

I herd today that they want to close 10 bakerys so far 4 will be gone in july

To Mr.sappdonut ibc was butternut bread and dolly madison cakes. just like cbc was wonder bread and hostess and abc was merita tastee bread and cook book cake ct was rainbo, manor, and break cake. i was told in the 90s that in 2003 or later their would be three major bread comp. looks like that it is coming true. sara lee, flowers and ????

STOCKHOLDER You Sound Like One Of Those Mormons I Mean Morons In Utah

To Mr.Wonderfull Yeah Baby-bring on the evil.

anybody know what is going on in california?how many route cuts,any plant closings?if a bread driver loses his route can he bump a hostess driver with lower senority?

I don't think IBC will sell the char. plant I beleive they have been renting it. Remember or did we forget, Three day sick out X 35,000 of us!!!!

RE:STOCKHOLDER It is sad that you gain hapiness in the expense of someone else's suffering. just remember your day will come, for money truly is the root of all evil.

Just an employee bashing site ...KS bashin WA. You people prolly never even seen each other....lololol. He cant spell--She's screwing him...and him...and him--they are lazy-- Thats life...its everywhere...Lets read something of importance. Geeezzzz!

Way to go Tony-stock up another 4 per cent today-article in KC Star today says he hasn't even used any of the 200 mil on the BK loan yet.Keep on cutting and chopping.

looks like some kind of news is getting ready to break.1.7million traded today,the stock is up over a buck in 2 days.nobody does't like sara lee!!

To The idiot that posted that the grocery strike in Souhtern Calif. was called by the Teamsters. Your an IDIOT, YOU MORON THAT WAS THE UFCW STRIKE. You post makes as much sense as you do, go chase cars you stupid F**K

Charlie G. at it again. My o My, what a suprise!!! BTW, Twinkie kid, you sooooo bad.

Face it people the SS twinkie is going down! Abandon ship

To: Not Yet Don't feel bad, IBC here won't sell our plant either, for the same reason!!

"D" im sick of your big mouth too! Im not in your gang either.Dang talk about ibc for once.

Well, the time finally came, July 18 is our last day, we found out that IBC turned down a potential buyer, they don't care about the workers, they turned them down because of competition. WHAT ASSHOLES!! Anyone out there buying IBC products i hope they don't buy it. They all SUCK they substitute every ingredient with chemicals its pills cheaper flour, and the bread come out like sh**!! Good Luck to all my friends at the New Bedford plant it has been a pleasure working with you all these years!!! :(

Re: CALLED D.M. TO INFORM HIM, HIS RESPONSE... I SHOULD OF ANTICIPATED THE CUT AND ORDERED MORE THE DAY BEFORE. Your DM is a moron these guys are here to solve problems not point blame . How can you know whats going to be CUT by the Plant? IF you want a heads up on cuts just call Glendale before you go home They can tell you what problems the plant has had and you can anticipate large cuts don't wait for the transport to get to the DEPOT to find out!! Yes more work on your part but if your boss don't care someone has to!! 818.539.8225 Call it Find out Be Informed Its your sales that pay the bills.......

R_zz-How about Tony le tigre's theme song-"I fooled around and fell in debt?"

Hey Boyz-which one do you think is actually Irwin? Crust or Cry?? I have no idea what this person(?) is babbling on about. I have only seen their posts these last 2 days, so if I am copying THEM, then I must be able to read minds. COOL-I can put it on my resume. OOPS-I don't need a resume since I also have a very lucrative career as a freelance journalist.......hmmm...maybe they are jealous since I CAN spell. Razz-keep coming up with the Theme Songs...they are great!! Doop-we miss you baby.......except for Irwin's "GANG" jealous as they are. T the K-please keep posting.....we miss you and your words of wisdom. Puddin' where the Hell are you now?? And CC-I'm glad to know you are lurking out there somewhere. We reign supreme......( NOW watch the babies start whining)

Getting nervous fatboy. It's hard to tell , you sweat doing nothing. It won't be long now!

Northwest PC review complete and routes cut in Nevada and Utah are dramatic. Distribution from LA to be returned to Pomona for southern states.

Tony --------redrum-----------redrum-----------Tony-----redrum----------redrum----------Tony-----------REDRUM

Hey Doopie Love, I need to hear some of your wit and wisdom. Give it to me daddy......(that should rile up Irwin and his sound-alike twin, mr. fry me a liver.....whatever)

You are right. IBC did not have the experience to run the CBC bakeries. There were two different mindsets for management back then and they obviously were not compatible. Can anyone say PEP? Ex-Cons, know what I mean?

IBC should have never bought CBC,Butternut,Merita and Dolly Madison were very profitable. IBC did not need Wonder and Hostess to run it into Bankruptcy!

What about the Cincinnati closing?No news is good news.

I.B.C. song of the day:"Final Countdown".It is sooner than you think.

hey, alvarez, i need a shitload of buns for this weekend. i was told there aren't any to be had. aany advise, oh wise one?

Now I lay me down to sleep, A IBC supervisor at my feet. If I die, before I wake. Feed that fat bastard another piece of cake...

How can IBC soar like a Eagle, when so many turkeys are running the place.

Mgt performance bonuses will be paid in two intstallments: The initial 50 percent is payable on the earlier of Aug. 15, 2005 or the date upon which the fiscal 2005 financial statements are completed. The final installment is payable 30 days after the effective date of the plan of reorganization. The restructuring bonus is based on the assumption that IBC will acieve a target EBITDAR for fiscal 2005. If the target is reached certain salaried personnel will be a percentage, 5% - 10%- 20% 40%, etc. of their salary as a payment.

Banana you know how Big Deb feels about this posting boardremember what has been said by HR in Billings."Keep your mouth shut and your eyes closed on what goes on here in Billings"And "What happens in Billings stays in Billings" If you don't follow these ruls there will be hell to pay form HR. You know how Big Deb gets when someone like you step out of line.

All you people should shut your mouths and follow Billings lead and keep gripes in your own shop.

Stock up over 11 per cent today-great work Tony-shut down some more of these underachiving plants and low volume routes-lets cut the workforce by 30-40 per cent to get the fat out of this company.

Hey "Cry Me a River"-are you stupid or can you just not retain anything you read? Look at your post and look at mine...All you did was repeat what I had already said. Duh-Try to come up with your own thoughts sometime. Razz, We all know what their problem is and we can only sit back and watch them eat those cornflakes. So sad.....waaaaaaa.

Looks like the Ill area bakeries are safe for the time being? It is still quite likely that the whole system will sink into the sunset when the money runs out. The company has as yet to make a profit and the kitty is almost empty.

Marshall Haney & H.R Manager in Philly today for a meeting. To discuss Branch Closings? Stroehmans was told to pluss up for weekend because we are all done this week.

Good one "cry me a river"Way to put "D"and her goons in thier place,they talk about everything other then I.B.C.Who cares if you post else where.Do everyone a favor.BIG MOUTH.

HERE WE GO AGAIN! ANOTHER HOLIDAY AND THINGS ALREADY GOING TO SH!T. ORDERS SCREWED UP. SUPERVISORS PRETENDING NOT TO NOTICE SO THEY DONT HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT. WHY TRY TO FIX PROBLEMS, ITS EASIER JUST TO IGNORE THEM. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO HOLD A UNION EMPLOYEE ACCOUNTABLE FOR MISTAKES WHEN NONE OF SUPERVISORS ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE?

Wonder who's turn it will be this week? West Coast - heard from reliable source you will take quite a few hits - When most have to file bk - they cut the excess spending. IBC has done the complete opposite. Still hundred dollar lunches - just among the boys. How about PC leader Youst - $500 mileage reimbursment - Why use a company car - no $$ then.

What will our crack staff screwup this week? Bring your kids to Buffalo Wednesday, several clowns will be tieing balloons and doing tricks.

D, so many unhappy campers.Who Pi_ _ed in these guys cornflakes???

To The D Lets all hope when TA's axe falls on the Pacific Northwest that you are one of the first and one of the most deserving to be left unemployed.No company can survive with people like you in there employment.

Oh, my, my, my! I must have hurt some itty bitty little man's feelings. I feel so remorseful........Doop-Help me. I am so afraid of this big tough Cry Me a River idiot. I may never write my opinions here again. I feel so bad for stepping on this much wiser and more important man's ideas and thoughts. After all, it's probably the only thought he has ever formed. Oh and to the idiots who think they have a right to say what they want on this website-guess what?? YOU DO and therefore-SO DO I. Like it or stuff it.

and where the hell is eddie booker ? taking bread to edmar for jason lanier "CUZ" he don't want to take it himself ? how about dearborn wholesale ? 252 parade 1lb. white. hey juan, drop this off for jason.

i'm all for the sickout. let's support our brothers-in-arms !!!!!

do you dumbasses really think that dominik's and jewel are going to accept being serviced three times a week ? especially with us holding the dominik's house bread account?

apparently the chicago northside division is going to close. can you imagine driving every morning from hidgkins to wilmette? or, what's going to happen?

to john brown jr. is your nose the same as your last name? i think so !!!

We need to follow thru on the SICK OUT, Lets make a statement.

Just what those fat bastards need ,another reason to eat. They need CDL's just to drive the family car. Management cuts are not done by seniority. Sucks to be old , fat and useless.

oh boy,38yrs with the company and I get a free lunch (last supper)

DOES THAT MEAN ME TOO??? WHAT TIME IS THE MEETING AND WILL I GET LUNCH?

Anyone know whats going to happen to Columbus oh. our branch manager has a meeting in columbus with district mager monday morning. Is the end near for us? I didnt think cincy had a bakery.

All my years with the PD. I never seen this many criminals. and its all upper management. I may be a suck ass but I'm no thief like them. Vist my web site at. www.ilikesmallboys.com

D - are you sure you are not from Arkansas?