well, new week, new adventures. let's see what this week has to offer. what did i run lsat week, how much stale, how dirty is my truck, how much bread did i get plussed on monday, etc.etc. anyone for a miller lite?

Whatever happened to Kenny W. from shipping dept?

Dear Happy Ex Employee Must be a great job. So great in fact you have to still come here and post. Get a Life

Does your company make Home Pride Breads? If you guys do, I found a slice of bread with a lady bug baked into it. I bought the bread at a grocery store here in New York City. I don't think I will ever buy your bread again. What color was it? At least you got to see it image what you dont see at McDonalds, If you only knew

Hey-- all of you fools--- get out while you can!! I spent 17 years working for this joke of a company, and just left for a job with lesser pay, but have never been happier. I now work 40 hours a week (not 60-65 or more), and if I happen to work over 8 hours in a day, I am paid overtime. When I worked for IBC (International Bitch Company), I used to read the posts on this site, and just laugh at all the miserable people who constantly whine about how bad their jobs are. Folks, you do have a choice, and yes, believe it or not, there are good-paying Teamster jobs out there which do not require you to work of stupid companies who seen to always take one step forward and two steps back. If you can't read the writing on the wall, this company will eventually sell all the product lines, piecemeal, to the highest bidders. After almost one year of bankruptcy, it is obvious there is no other company in the world stupid enough to buy this mess of an organization. If you miserable people don't give Alvarez what he wants (which is obviously a major cut in pay and benefits across the board), yes, this company will eventually cease to exist as it is now- business is business, and Big Tony is there to do nothing except chop heads and save money, damn the hard-working people who have tried to keep this ship afloat (and I'm not taking about the overpaid, underworked IBC managment who are wholly responsible for this mess. They have paid their dues on their knees for years, and will either keep their jobs, or get "golden parachutes"). I'm talking about all you that put in those long, hard hours for an organization that doesn't care, and definitely doesn't knopw what is going on. Looking back, yes, Baker's Inn is a good product, but is like the Edsel car, the wrong item at the wrong time, and done years too late. With gas at $2.40 a gallon, consumers aren't seeking to pay over $3.50 for a loaf of bread, no matter how good it is. Also, ESL is a waste- the cake product is crap after 8-10 days (especially after sitting on hot trucks during the summer), let alone the 17 day shelf life-- the company needs to get back to selling fresh product (remember the "If it isn't fresh, we're out of business" marketing campaign?)-- it used to be "sell today's cake today", but now, the company motto seems to be "keep it out there until it rots". If IBC doesn't get back to the same basic concepts that built this company, it will soon cease to exist as we know it. Maybe this is what T. Alvarez and his way overpaid "think tank" are striving for. People, jump ship while you can!! There will soon be a day where your good (?) jobs will be gone!! Best of luck........... P.S. Tony Farina sucks ass!!

TO db: It is embarrassing how the company is operating. Fla. is just the tip of the iceberg.Mass confusion and mgt. finally getting tired of it. Are you surprised?

To bhbbc: Keep pushin' , Keep postin ' on on!!!! What else do we have left?

Razz-I'm kind of proud...I've never been called a Homo before! Wow...live and learn. Cry-Glad I got to read you before the mighty finger hits the delete button. You used the words penis and meat awfully close together....oooh, naughty naughty.

oh, and by the way, jerry kemp (former hodgkins general manager, now area sales manager) and don orsini (always a dumb ass) ran a cake route the other day. word has it they did not have a clue. really...

i've been busy, haven't i?

just in case there is any management viewing our posts, there is no way to stop this. we can and will post whatever, whenever, however! if you don't like it, too bad. we will post "songs of the day", good memories and bad ones, and any damn thing that we feel like. to the guy who said that management is watching this site, screw them all. they can't touch us on this public opinion forum. all they can do is read it and weep...

stan "itsy bitsy" snyder was over at chicago northside on friday. what was he doing there? our contact over there tells us he was talking to larry "santa" klasen (he's that fat), the northside cake supervisor. what they were talking about is yet to be known...stay tuned...

message from our contact over at chicago northside: three guys gone in the last three weeks. eddie booker is running a route, pounding out 8 or 9 thousand on a 5 or 6 thousand dollar route. next week, 20% stale...you go boy...

okay, if you guys wanna see management go nuts about this site, start calling them out by name. don't cal them by some nickname relevent to how they look. call them by their first and last names and/or position. give them a nickname, like tony "the wop" izzo, don "dumb as a" dorr, randy "bad mustache" vauk, jerry "the fairy" kemp, stan "itsy bitsy" snyder and so forth and son. maybe it won't piss them off, but keep posting anyway. if they don't like it too bad. song of the day: ain't that america, for you and me...

Just a question... Has IBC ever built a bakery, expanded the sales force? It seems to me they only know how to retreat in defense, closing bakeries to the point that if business took the slightest upturn they couldn't handle it. Do they belong in the SALES business, where growth and expansion are a good thing? For this to ever take place with this company, it starts at the top with COMMUNICATION. IBC upper management is the worst at this basic element of success that I have ever seen in my 30 years in the business.

The givebacks are the reason they are reevaluating everything. We should never have gotten the contract that we did. IF YOU ARE NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION YOU ARE THE PROBLEM

hey everyone, let's chat yahoo chat business and finance then stock watch 2 let's find out what's happening in your area. chatting from 6 central to 8 central

why did I not get informed when i was in the interview for my job that this might happen. I worked on the other side of the ticket for 11.5yrs. and went to this, being unemployeed bites big time. i was only with ibc for about 5months and all i got was my last check. no letter was sent out to any one in my depot about the layoff just told. so there that is a reason to fight because that is not the right way of business. no info about a severance package was sent. so basically i got f@%@!!! My route was up and customer service was at its prime with no calls to the office or any one. so with that in mind all because of senority i was jacked of a good job but hey who care up the ladder. if any one has any info of what i would be intitled to please let me know. i would be greatfull. thanks for reading and let all know that we could fight because no one got a letter that the layoff would happen until the route managers where notified.

GOOD NOW LETS FORGET ABOUT ALL THIS TALK OF GIVEBACKS...NO HERO MR. VOLPE!!!!!

Letter posted today saying all route changes in NE is going to be reevaluated. Company is doing better and paying bills so they would like to make sure they are making the right decisions. I think they are seeing what is going on in Florida and saying to themselves lets not just crunch numbers. Or is Alvarez giving up??

Seattle Bakery "On Fire" last night as reported by local news. What happened?

I.B.C. song of the day:" Use your freedom of speech. I'm gonna say it again and again and again .Use your freedom to post. a victim of collision on the open sea nobody ever said that life was free sank, swam, go down with the ship but use your freedom of choice . The Spud Boys-DEVO-

I see Tony's favorite team is still in first place. The Atlanta Braves are still kicking ass . He has tickets behind home plate. Figures...Chop, Chop , Chop........

To D: Cursing and using anatomically correct parts works well on this site.. They have a special "D" elete button just for you. The guy from LA used homo as an insult. I cried on my wife's shoulder .Keep on posting. The end is near, because the posts keep getting angrier in content.Alvarez was brought in to divide and conquer. The only thing that I have not figured out is ,why has Tony not dumped more mgt. I guess that will take care of itself with people quitting.

Noticed today i-75 goodnclean---I wonder why?

Heard IBC lost one of its largest vendor accounts, ARA, after raising vend cost. And routeman lost his route and now is a extra man.

Hey Razz and the boyz-It is really funny that someone just posted under the name-Freedom of Speech, because for the 2nd time in 3 days I have been deleted! WTF?????? I don't get it. There are so many people on this site, speaking their minds and even CURSING...Good God...NO!! BUT-I let off a little steam at some JACKASS from LA and I am null and void.

Squirrel Whats the new rumor????

It would seem that some people would like to see this site go away. I for one see this site as a blessing to all the working people and people who buy the products made by IBC. Some would like to surpress the facts and opinions of others for their own personal gains. Last time i heard this country of ours has a constitution that gives us our rights to freedom and free speech and to express our opinions. Thank goodness for this site and the right to express the facts as they really are.

4 day work week? Is that an attempt to eliminate "overtime" pay?

4 Day Work week im Game 4 10's weekends off very SWEET! Good Rumor Guys Hope it's True... Keep on Bakeing

The Dong A.K.A. The Penis( You don"t mind being called by your real name do you?) Touchy,! Touchy!Touchy! Now you are bragging about watching men in the bathroom and playing with yourself ! IBC must be hard up to promote a person who has nothing to do but play with himself and brag about it to the world!!! IBC deserves I.Q. challenged people like you!!! A low life who has to attack a man and his family to prove his manhood sure is on the right track to own this company!!! P.S. Wipe you face off it is getting brown from all the ass kissing you are doing with Chris!!!!!!!!( Sorry maybe you and Chris(?) are enjoying it!)

I. B.C. song of the day:When there's somone new, who don't like you . Who you gonna call? Tony Busters. When there's something burnt in your bakery . Who you gonna call ? Tony Busters. when you've got a business going down the tubes . Who you gonna call ? Tony Busters. Keep up the great work Tony!!!!!

Alvarez doesn't care about "the little people" and he should. The way to turn around a business is to give bonus's and raises to people, not close plants and routes. All that does is makes the bottom line look goos so he can make his bonus. To me, that all ALvarez really cares about any. He's out to make a buck. In this case a million bucks while we lose our jobs. Is that a good ceo? I think not. He's cluless and ruthless. I hope he rots in his SUV or lexus (the many he owns). PAY US NOT YOURSELF! THAT"S THE WAY TO RUN A BUSINESS ALVARAZ IS A COWREAD

I totally agree with this person who post below me. Well define and if everyone put in some kind of effort we can turn this company around.

Pretty soon, with all the $$$$$$$$ T. Alverez is making off of IBC, he and his mob will be able to just buy IBC himself, man what a sweet deal, his jobs a piece of cake ! No pun intended !!

I"m flying high and have the management team scared. They can't figure out what my next steps are. Especially the stupid ones I work for (especially the fat one).

Tony Alvaraz is a blood hound. He'll do whatever it takes to make the books look good without the care in the world about the little guys like us. Screw him and his his horse he rides on

Alvarez is just sitting back on his leather chair just pushing buttons. He has no clue on how to run a business. He's closing plants so HE can take home money. He doesn't care about the employee's. I'm sure he's taking his bonus and buying another lexus or two. This guy is a crook and he knows it. He wants to ruin IBC and make millions in the process. That's all he cares about. Money!

Hey I know what a Dong is, and un like Big John mine is rather large and gets used rather often. Character assisnation you say, but it is all the truth. Mrs. Cothran the truth is the truth. John better shape up or he is out of here. No skin off my back it may be a promotion for me.

To LA Hostess Anon:A special song for you :"Dream on. Dream until your dreams come true . Which will be never.

Kansas City Business Journal - 11:12 AM CDT Thursday Interstate gives Hostess products new look Interstate Bakeries Inc., maker of Twinkies and Wonder Bread, said Thursday that it is rolling out new packaging for its iconic Hostess snack cakes, with an accompanying ad slogan: "Fresh Face, Same Great Taste." I think they should've left off the "SAME GREAT TASTE"...maybe they would've sold a few more before people found out it was just the "same OLD CRAP in a new pretty pack." I guess it's a good thing I'm not in Tony's place because I would've never thought about doing that! I would probably do something stupid like going back to fresh product.

Calling all the people How can you tell When your wellness is not well Make no mistakes now Please do excuse My itchy attitude I'm feelin' righteous Why, why are we always asking why To lamely try to justify For what it is a lack of drive Calling all the people Have you nothin' brewin' Time to flap your big fat mouth Let's rap how we be doin' Say might what you say That's really all it takes to break through Where is it at When your moral is a hat Full money Can you explain Why the messy kitchen sink Is so confusing Why,why are we always asking why To lamely try to justify For what it is a lack of drive Calling all the people Have you nothin' brewin' Time to flap your big fat mouth Let's rap how we be doin' Say might what you say That's really all it takes Calling all the people Have you nothin' brewin' Time to flap your big fat mouth Let's rap how we be doin' Say might what you say That's really all it takes to break through Calling all the people -4non blonds- I.B.C. song of the day:

Hostess LA dream On my brotha!!

Can anybody verify please? I've heard thru the grapevine that IBC will be giving out bonuses to all employees.Also,to look for a big increase in our medical and retirement benefits.I've also heard something about going to a 4 day work week.The schedule would be M-T-TH-FR so we can spend more time with our families.Sounds good to me,I'm staying.

haha, the end is near

I was told Tony Alverez could fix anything,,,,,So I went to his office and there was a sign on the door that said Please Knock...The Door Ringer doesn't work....Go figure....LOL

Hey Orlando, Do have a production manager yet???????

Barq & Coop, Smart&Final is one of our #1 accounts. Having the salesmen fill out a form for the best items carryovers, build ups, sell offs, is creating more paperwork when all this info is on the market conditions we already print out...in case you 2 don't know, we are short S&Final product DAILY!!! We can't fill shelves when we don't get the product. Cut the Bullshit...We can't even begin to evaluate our sales force until you solve the Transportation & Distribution problems. Barq, when was the last time you were on the market? I saw a memo you sent out back when we eliminated most product for Restaurants and raised prices, asking the DMS to send you a list of what eaterys we lost and what they were going to do to get the business back....lets see, we want you to change your menu and pay us more for our products....HELLO..... Guys get a clue to what is happening out in our depots and super markets!!! I know you don't give a shit about the Millbrook side but ask any Wonder RSR and he will echo these MAJOR problems. Good Night Now!!

First you were mugged,or so you say.Then "some guys" wanted to put a hit on you.Now i hear you were "involved" in a police shootout while you were "fishing",dat's what I heard.Oh,baby ,Captain Crack Spider you da man.

About Sara lee rumor, Just remember guy?s Anyone buying I.B.C out must also assume I.B.C?s debt. It doesn?t just go away. At this time the only company stupid enough to do something like that is I.B.C. Go figure

We are already loosing major bread accnts. Way to go guys . way to raise the price so much as to force customers elswhere! Oh and Watch pepperdine, $2000 a wk , they are making calls. I hope Alverez gets his bonus that is whats important!

Well davenport's not down yet.Been real bad.Surprised,throwing away bread and buns like crazy.Throw away more then we make.Been told that we are done,but nobody knows when.Real hush hush.Anybody heard about davenport?Hello to all the good people on this site.

Hey rass,hey "D",hey stoopid,hey I missed all you guys,where have you been?What a bunch of homos.

Comment: like this company could care less who or what posts on this site...they cant even run their business nevermind hunting down who or what posts on this site...GET REAL God then theyll never know about the 150 dollars a week I am clipping hhahahahahh

bread guy Yeah and it turns out to be more then the O/T they are paying now so let them do what they like. They are the idiots that gave us the last contract without fighting. I really do not hope that the bread side gives up the sick time, without a fight

with the exception of 3 or 4 ---come to our branch we have potheads and dumbfucks there and now are gonna let dolly dumbfucks come on board. what a fucked up world we live in.

yo db before you call people idiots know what you are talking about,they want to pays us like entermanns,hr or com.which ever is greater and you should know which way is greater.just away to get around the goverment.

very correct db..more rumers idiots are spreading to scare employees

To the idiots from Jamacia saying the company wants to do away with overtime they CANNOT it is a NYS and NJ LAW.

like this company could care less who or what posts on this site...they cant even run their business nevermind hunting down who or what posts on this site...GET REAL

The Dong A.K.A. The Penis: WHO CARES!!!!!!!!! Nobody missed you and your LAME attempt at character assassination! Guess you and Monkey BOY got tired of playing patty-cake!You and your toady need to find a new game to fill your boring life!Get a LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!! P.S. Guess you didn't know that "Dong" is another name for the penis!?!? What does that say about you DICKHEAD?????????

Alvarex can kiss my arse! If he thinks he's going to waltz in here and treat us like slaves, he's got another thing coming. We work too long of hours and treating like crap. Well, i have no problem putting crap in my product!

AMEN to this person!! Name: Anonymous Location:Kansas City, MO Comment: Buffolo NY~ I agree! To the people who post on this site,all day everyday! You need to get a F****** hobby. My god do you people have any kind of life outside this web site. Do you relize our customers read all these postings, for it is you who will help bring the company down with all your gossip. Do yourselves a favor, if you don't like working for IBC, GET THE F*** OUT! Don't make things worse for the rest of us, with all your rumors, and stupid songs of the day!! Cause god knows it makes people just want to go right out and buy our products. IBC will be spending alot more time investigating who is posting on this site~ Mark my words!!!

Buffolo NY~ I agree! To the people who post on this site,all day everyday! You need to get a F****** hobby. My god do you people have any kind of life outside this web site. Do you relize our customers read all these postings, for it is you who will help bring the company down with all your gossip. Do yourselves a favor, if you don't like working for IBC, GET THE F*** OUT! Don't make things worse for the rest of us, with all your rumors, and stupid songs of the day!! Cause god knows it makes people just want to go right out and buy our products. IBC will be spending alot more time investigating who is posting on this site~ Mark my words!!!

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Workers get out while you can. The big bosses are getting the bonus and enjoying spending the companys money and living a great life while your future is in question. Find yourself another job before you are thrown out. Leave on your terms not theirs. There are plenty of good jobs out there where you will be treated like a human being and not a robot. Start looking now while you have a choice. Later you will not have a choice. You will be out the door with an empty pocket.

LETS ALL JUST SAY WHATEVER WE WANT TO HEAR...FORGET ABOUT THE FACTS...LETS ALL JUST SPREAD RUMERS ...LETS SPREAD FEAR THROUGHOUT THE COMPANY....JUST WHAT ALVAREZ LIKES...SPREAD FEAR...PARANOIA

Get a grip everyone, the writing is on the wall. Your company is going down, the money is being sucked out of the company by the losers running it via the bonuses they are still getting and you should start looking for other work. Quit your bitching and take control of the only thing the company can't control....your life. Quit whining and do something other than posting on this stupid site, it gets you no where. Duh.

New rumor,,,,IBC will be cutting 600 routes of 1100 in Midwest,,be waiting! Will be done in next 4 to 8 weeks

bill...nobody in their right mind is going to vote for 1 of these givebacks never 3 or 4. this outfit cant be trusted to give employees ..ie union workers a fair shake. all of this giveback talk is just a waste of time! this company still will do whats best for alvarez with no thought of employees!!!!

bill,iguess you did not make the meeting.the sugessted give backs are 38.00 from breads base,and 1/2percent com.for cake.they also want to do away with overtime for salesmen

LOL / The joker named pisser made the bosses at Colombo put up a camera over the mixers so they make sure nobody piss in the mixers. but the only way you can piss in the mixer if you are seven feet tall and only the plant manger is that tall ?????

I find it very amusing that all the BIG SHOTS who created this mess are still employed and getting bonuses. Tony was hired to fix this mess and he has kept everyone of them, and they are still making bad decisions. Do they really think by letting the people who do all the work go is going to save this company? GET A GRIP!!

You who are called The Force is like a pleague. You spread your evil ways like the locust that you are. Pity the common worker for they are but a simple person with very little of a brain. The Force Sucks.

To The Force of Kansas, You bring so much to this Board! Your post was so inspirational that I feel like going back to work, well, almost. Thank you for your most uplifting post. Please come again!

Get to work you bunch of lossers!

I'm baaack. Well Big John is on night shift. He is now screwing that up big time. He has to call his boss every moment and get him out of bed. Is this idiot trying to get fired or what. Even Monkey Boy could do a better job then Big John. He is late every night and sits and feeds in his office. Something breaks and he calls his boss to walk him through the fix. This guy is days away from his new job sucking out the portable toilets. How sad for him.

To D : We have "soarly", missed ypur wisdom. If you have been reading the posts, you will see that I have my fans and my detractors. I have been trying to come up with new material wherever and whenever I can. The detractors provide me with extra incentive to be creative.

To bhbbc:It is starting to happen in our area already. Rts. sitting for a day or longer. Poor planning on upper mgt. level. Supervisory level doing all they can in most instances. I have not seen so many supervisors on rts. at one time. It will only get worse. I am glad I am not in mgt. anymore.

Hey Razz-Howdy! I have missed all of you guys.

word has it that another chicago northside employee will call in tommorow to inform eddie booker (supervisor) that he will not return. he will go to work for tropicana juice co. as of tommorow (thursday). a sign of things to come?

4-DAY work week, just means longer days, poorer service, stops getting less service, product has to be picked up earlier, not even getting satifactory service in 5-DAYS

HOW MANY ROUTES IS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA CUTTING? AND WHEN,DOES ANYBODY KNOW HOW MUCH TIME YOU NEED TO KEEP A JOB IN SO CAL?

how many more routes will be cut,if the kirkland pl is gone?what is the average $$$ amount that costco does each week,and who is getting it?

Bill-The union will fold like a cheap tent. They can not lose membership. That is all they care about is the dues. When is the last time you seen the union. GOOD LUCK.

Is there any truth to the rumor that the union is talking about giving back 1.5% ON COMMISSION AND $75.00 a week to save routes? So they do not lose membership.

Kirkland P.L. in CostCo is a thing of the past for IBC. It will be taken away soon. Another big volume item bites the dust.

More likely a 7 day work week.

Good bye Billings you guys are toast.August 15 th is D-Day

word just came out yesterday that we are losing costo BP nationwide on the 15th of aug.sounds like billings and ogden are gonna close Thank god all you do is lose money. Here in NY After paying the routeman,the merchandiser, the extra day pay the transport drivers get on holidays and being at there beckoning fuck them all. Yes they do the volume but they sell the rolls for 1.69 for a 16 pack give me a break even weston get 2.00 a pack at BJs

where did that come from?

Sara Lee deal is done. Look for news within days.

heard rumors of ibc routes going to a four day workweek...anyone on that already?

Thanks for the support Cry Me A river!!!!

I.B.C. song of the day:"Tony's climbing the stairway to heaven.When he gets there , he knows all the glitter is Gold , and he's climbing the stairway to heaven.There's a sign on the wall, and he wants to make sure that you know his words have two meanings. When he whispers to you , that he's almost halfway through . With one more word he can get what he came for.......Lots of Dough! And the bakeries will echo with laughter.

To The Truth: Nice try,but alittle rough around the edges. Keep Trying and keep posting . It only gets better , the more you think about a song....

If Sara Lee were to purchase whats left of IBC it would only draw Sara Lee down with IBC. Sara Lee is a quality product and that is the difference. The only reason would be to buy all the bakeries and shut down the competition. Of course it looks like it will all shut down anyway in time as sales profits decline.

my deleted post said something along the lines of................HeartLand Lover-I don't really care 2 shits about what you say about Cali. I couldn't agree more, the place has gone all to hell in the last 50 years. Just don't lump Oregon and Washington in with those So Cal flakes. We're a whole different breed. And to Cry-Thank you for the welcome...I've missed you too.

Way to go shipping!!!!!!!!!! Bet GO is very impressed with your efforts. BTW, Chris sure looks hot.

Fire up a damn joint best job security i know.

I've read these posts about sara lee. How could anyone know the CEO's schedule let alone post this information on a message board. Particularly this one! I tend to agree, I think this story is not true also.

My guess would be that if IBC were to be sold, we would be sold by T. Alverez to his own people El Industrol La BIMBO...Many pesos would change hands my friends , a little of dis , a little of that...Cartel style!! That's the way I think it will go !!! Get the old buses up and running at the border, were going to need about 30,000 new illegal aliens to replace us gringo's ...AH Life is Good...AMERICA she's Mexico's Bitch and Whore......Like Steve Miller said ...Oooo Take the $$$ and run...or send back to OLD Mexico, Yes Life there is getting GOOD !!! Wake UP My Fellow AMERICAN'S ( The Legal Ones) We've got to stop the influx of shit crossing our border from Mexico everyday, Call your Congress Person, Support Border Watchers if our Gov. won't ....we must !! These are the same people who chant OSAMA ..OSAMA ...And throw piss on our USA teams when we play in Mexico...They burn our flag, But love our $$$$$....Wake up people, The next Terrorist Wave comes from this Border !! Sell us to BIMBO ...Tony A. Sell us to them..After all ...As my Mexican co-workers say..America she just our BITCH....

Hey KC, I know for a fact that there is no meeting in late Oct with Alvarez. You and your "insiders" have no clue. There is no meeting. There are no talks about a merger. So continue making up your rumors about Sara Lee. None of it is true.

in the know ------you dont know shit

I just hope we are bought out simply so everyone working for this company gets laid off.

word just came out yesterday that we are losing costo BP nationwide on the 15th of aug.sounds like billings and ogden are gonna close.. :-(

To the person that posted about a Sara Lee merger. COMPLETE AND TOTAL NONSENSE! There is no such meeting. Believe me, I would know.

Hey Razz I got a song for ya, "we didn't start the fire" By:Billy Joel (revised) IBC, IBC, we just filed for bankrupcy Tony A., Tony A., what else can I say The bakers baken lots of stuff its a 150 degrees in our trucks the products meltin,short coded, not to mention damaged The loaders always loading wrong cutting and plussing WTF I can't take it this company is full of shit The Management don't really care they just like to sit in their chair and dictate, masterbate get off your ass and pull your weight (song is weak, made it up as I wrote sorry !) you get the point !!

I used to work for IBC. And I thank the Good Lord everyday that I was lucky enough to find a better paying job. And get the hell out before it all goes to shit. Nissen used to be a great place to work and you could have pride in your work and product but when IBC bought us it was all downhill from there . Driving piece of shit trucks held together with coathangers and ductape. working 80+hours a week . Trying to sell product that you wouldnt even eat yourself ....SHREK TWINKIES ... what a joke.. Well I hope you all are as lucky as me and are able to get out while you can

Now Paddy Kake...I would advise you to do unlike Bob Marley....If your gonna shock the sheriff then PLEASE DAMN SURE SHOCK the MO FO ,Big Herp filled Deputy....I'd kic him in the nuts, but the RACK MONKEY is scared that he 'd bust open one thos sores and get herp juice all over the shipping dock floor...OSHA would for real freak on dat...Lay LOW PADDY, Lay LOW !!

WOW!! I really must be back. I sent a message to this site today and it seems to have been DELETED>>>I feel right at home.

Sho nuff Monkey! big Steve one cranky Mo Fo as some folks call him. Osha needs to be here when someone needs a drink and has to wait for a super. It ain't right , 20 hour days ain't right, the countries not right. What can we tell them that is more horrible than what Christians have already accepted without question -- lies, treason, deceit, abuse and torture, body parts of innocents littering the landscape, the slaughter of their own children, and freedom ebbing away? If we tell them what the Great Deceiver and his Christian Reconstructionist God have in store for them, will they continue to stare at us vacantly while waving their flags? Or, when they see that our foreheads do not proclaim the patriotic "9-11," will they skitter fearfully into the shadows? We have a choice. We can either take our places in line at the tattoo parlor or we can grab a taser in each hand and start walking cross-country, kicking doors down and jolting folks awake. It may already be too late, but before this vast herd of comatose sheep goes plodding blindly over the edge of the cliff; before they pull the rest of us into the morass with them, we have earned the right to see one last collective shock of recognition -- a final terrified realization that they know the good times are over -- really over for good. And they will know, at long last, it didn't have to be this way. Just about had it in Tulsa

To all my loyal subjects here at de glendale dun't woory your HR maniger is on top of everyone.........and I means everyone!!

i too have pissed people off. many people. i say what i think. it is o.k. to speak one's mind. last time i checked, this was America. i have always been a staunch supporter of free speech and expression. the L.A. dude can say all he wants, but because this is America, we don't have to listen. by the same token, he dosen't have to listen to us, either. so, as always, keep singing, keep posting and keep going...

To bhbbc:The end must be near . I have never insulted someone on this site unless provoked. All I know is I have newspaper personnel copying my style. I know I am creative, but sometimes I tend to piss some people off . I did it in mgt. and I did it in rt. sales . LA hostess is old news. If he read this site on a regular basis , then he would know we are just blowing off steam.

News flash This just in. When a ex employee is paid thier severance pay , they must sign a leagal wavier stating that all severance pay will be returned to IBC upon the ex-employee getting new employment. So predictable.

Holsum forensic report. Founded in 1912 its current building was build by 1983. IBC bought it by 1994. The plant has six cyl. flour silos 40 ft tall by 15 ft diam plus two smaller for liquid sugar. Has three production lines. "A" for loaf incluying raisin bread. "B" and "C" make rolls. "A" line had two 12 hr shift, "B" had one 12 hr shift and "C" had two 12 hr shift. "A" line has several brew blenders tanks with its pumps, mixers (two), dough pump/cutter, molders-panner (two), proofer, lid-on, oven, lid-out, depanner, pan staker, cooler, slicers (five), baggers (five). The A diverter cut 80-100 loaf by minute. B line has its mixer, dough pump, Model K cutter-rounder, Molder panner, proofer, seeder, oven, depanner, pan stacker pan unstacker, cooler and UBE pack bagger for six or twelve buns. The "B" mod K cut and round 320 rolls by minute. "C" line has mixer, KRX cutting and rounder (two), moulder-panner (two), proofer, seeder, oven, depanner, pan stacker, pan unstacker, cooler, bulk packer for 24 buns pk, UBE packer for six or twelve buns pk (two). Both KRX cut and rounding 640 buns by minute. B and C share same brew room. All of the three lines are conduct or conveyor conected from flour silos to packing room. Two dozen guys run managment. Two dozen plus guys run "A" line production. One dozen run "B" line production. Two dozen plus guys run "C" line production. One dozen plus guys run shipping. Two dozen guys run plant maintenance. One dozen plus do sanitation job. Two dozen are clerk. One dozen guys run the vehicle garage. Two dozen plus step van driver do local rutes, one dozen plus of guys drive tractor trailer and a some guys run trifty stores. Benefits paid by the company for employees unionized or not was Vista Health Insurance or National Employees Health Plan (one to choice incluying dental and covering employee and family) , Retirement Pension Plan, paid 6 holydays a year, birthday, vacations, six sick days a year, and Uniform. Managment had 401K. Decentralization isolated Holsum and created illness that kill it. 1- The mail box in the wall accepting sugest was removed. IBC stayed blind and deaf. 2- Payroll got not original but edited punch time report from each dept (sometimes adultered). 3- The global tend hi level boss working from home hit Holsum hurting morale of others. 4- Due Union help employee who did mistake and IBC fire boss who did, some boss covered themself recruiting informant/bodyguard among employee paid for IBC but in private interest. This guys didnt work and enjoyed hight pay rate, lot of overtime, funeral days, nice schedule, etc. their only due was protect his boss. 5- Lots of breakdown involved worn out parts that were not replaced on downdays. 6- Unqualified guys were hired in key positions. 7- "C" line oven loader-unloader clutch was wrongly installed in 1983 needing call mechanics every time any over load ocurred wasting lots of burned bread. Never was fixed. 8- Unnecessary expensive projects were done without consensus: The pan grouper before "C" seeder, the "C" pan return diverter, the two lines junction to "C" proofer. Expensive AC inverters and computarized finger touch screen switches replaced reliables and cheap switches and contactors. 9- Truck drivers didnt care, they leave trucks blocking rail road. 10- Only during inspections hi level bosses "walk" the plant (flashlight on hand looking for insect). . Dates: 03-25-3 IBC post will close Boise in Idaho by 5-24-3 (129 guys) 04-07-3 IBC post will close Sacramento CA by 6-7-3 (52 guys) 10-23-3 IBC post will close Gran Rapids in Mich. by 12-3-3 (160 guys) 03-15-4 IBC post will close San Pedro CA by 5-14-4 (184 guys) 08-23-4 IBC post will close Buffalo in NY by 10-23-4 (200 guys) 08-31-04 Miami paper say Kansas IBC hired bankrupt specialist. 09-22-4 IBC fill ch 11. Tony A. take over. 10-22-4 IBC get court aproval $200 million 12-16-4 IBC post will close Florence S.C. by 2-6-5 (200 guys) 04-27-5 IBC post will close Miami Fl by 7-8-5 (600 guys) 05-04-5 IBC post will close Charlotte NC by 7-23-5 (950 guys) 05-19-5 IBC post will close New Bedford Mass by 8-15-05 (1400 guys) 06-09-5 IBC post will close two bakeries in S. Fco. by 8-22-5 (650guys) 06-23-5 IBC post will cut South CA by 8-24-5 (350 guys) By Nov 2004 rumor said Holsum closing was included in $200 million court aproval. 4-27-05 about 3.30p somebody in Holsum see "Florida Operation" posted at IBC web site. 4-28-05 Miami Herald report it. About noon two Kansas envoy arrive Holsum to confirm July 8 clossing and inform severance pay will be one week by year until 26 weeks for managme

hey razz, it looks like this idiot from hostess LA is not going to go away. he has no clue and cannot post intelligently as to the present state of the company. i say we ignore his dumbass and let him make a fool of himself, by himself. what do you think?

Brenda Barnes is a Stripper at the Palms. I saw her act one night, which included Chauncey the Chocodile. Boy, she is gooddddddddddddd!

Hey Razz, What do you do for I.B.C ? Are you the guy at the bakery who puts the nine chocodiles in the boxes?

Hey I.B.C. I?ll be out of work soon so the free-bees are coming to a end. The problem you are having with the Lunch and break feature in our hand held. It would help us big time if you had Bob the computer guy put it so that after we hit yes to lunch the timer automatically stops at thirty minutes the screen could read ?You have taken your thirty minute lunch do you wish to continue? Yes or No. This will give us a greater opportunity to abide by the rules. If you cant figure out how this will work you are probably in upper management.

you should come to schiller park to see what rally gone on send a spy no down time what a joke stop your plant from closing fix your paper work no down time hold safty meeting when your eqipment goes down willie and vince cheat on paper work your plant need to work togerther stop your down time and you be open cheat come take take to employees and you see work as a team if schiller park no 1 you should send down engneers supervisors asst engneers to look at the operation dont you think so and talk to employees on the floor not the ones theyme issue you to talk to listen to them they tell you talk to maintance personnel also your eyes will be open because your blindwe will tell you how its done let us show you the way send a spy spy spy spy spy spy dont tell no one send a spy spy spy keep your plant from closing stop it now

Your right ,Cry me a river: To each their own......One person's paradise could and can be another's Hell...I would like to be honest and say this, So. CAl is a nice place to visit but I would not want to live there...But that would make me a liar, because I really would not care to even visit ever again !! Nothing personal to you, I'm sure you think the Midwest is a bunch of Hillbillies and Rednecks...Well you got me there...But remember what ole Hank Jr. said...us country boys will survive...Peace Out or Whatever the So.Cal lingo is ..Hope your tears stop and that river dries up.....Take care out there and God loves you...Even if IBC don't !!!!

"Inside information" LOL What a crock of shit. You just proved that this Sara Lee merger is just a bunch of garbage.

Anonymous you are right Hoffa is a mouth piece for the criminals that run this union . the only thing coming out of Hoffa mouth is "HOT AIR"

I love to here grown men cry.

Please Sara Lee buy us out and put all of us on the unployment line.

We here in K.C have alot of inside information. Also seems to me that you must be concerned about losing your job or you woundnt be making this post.

This Sara Lee rumor is garbage. Nobody would have this information. Wanna a rumor? McDonalds is buying IBC. We'll be selling McTwinkies from now on. My rumor has better chance of happening than this Sara Lee crap.

no if they take over then ibc is dead and so are all of its people

How could someone know what Sara Lee's CEO schedule is? And why post it on a message board. I think this is Bull.

We have some salesmen whom seem to think that if Sara Lee takes over -----their job is safe. They are in for a big suprise.

Brenda Barnes is C.E.O of Sara Lee.

Brenda C. Barnes is president and chief executive officer of Sara Lee Corporation. She has been a member of the board of directors of Sara Lee Corporation since joining the company as president and chief operating officer on July 1, 2004

Razz, I heard a line in a song yesterday that made me think of the lonsome losers in california, think you'll like it: WELL THEIR SHARING A TWINKIE THEY CALL LONELINESS BUT IT'S BETTER THAN EATING ALONE

Who is Brenda Barnes, and merge with whom?

i think the company is going to be sold very soon

Brenda Barnes is meeting with Tony Alveriz in late Oct. to discuss merger.

Everything that has happened to IBC since " Bankruptcy "most likely will make it better as far as the bottom line is concerned but it won't make it viable for the long term unless upper mgt' does something to train lower mgt' how to gain the trust of the people who work for them. To make IBC a great workplace you have to build trust. Trust is one employee retention strategy that works for all organizations. Managers should be trained in the skills of engaging and retaining employees. Until this is done everything the company is doing now will not make it last for the long run.

Henderson Hows Johnnie??

Hey happy birthday, its people like you that make this place a shit hole place to work.... now go blow out your candles your mommy says their melting.

Anyone who wants to know about the Matteson store go to www.wereserious.com they have all the plans about the redevelopment of the mall and the store is supposed to be torn down and not rebuilt.

Getting a little hot for you friggen hillbillies? It's such a ghetto in So Cal? We're blue staters and proud of it.You guys are so stupid that you voted that dumbass bush twice into office.Now aren't you proud of yourselves.You dumbshits are still running around blaming Clinton for everything that this dumbshit bush has pulled off.By the way, the cleaners called and said they can't get all the stains off of your white sheets.

D...I recently went to So. California and I heard every language except english, most of the people there were from...well ...Mexico,Asia, Pakistan,Turkey,Japan and I seen a few WINO's fist fighting at the beach....I think they were American though...Sorry you think I'm a live one !! I just happen to believe California is country inside a country...I have no problem with that...I just like the simple Midwest english speaking, help your neighbor,go to church on Sunday, kinda way of life !! RAZZ and the Boys just add a little love and laughs during these depressing IBC days...Sorry your feeling bentover !!

HeartLand Lover-I know I've been away for a while.....but, when did they make Cali a COUNTRY????? Come on my peeps....we got a live one here. I'M BACK AND IN A REAL BAD FRAME OF MIND. Where's all my boyz?? Irwin...you are one of mine, where the hell are you?? Doop, we need your wit. Come on and bounce some. These idiots need a talking to. Thank you to all my peeps who wrote me condolences about my dad. He would make some of the dipshits on this site look 1 foot tall. HE was a true Hero and will always be my #1.

When are retention bonuses going to be paid? I want to get mine then go out on sick leave for awhile maybe think about if I want to come back or leave this circus.

When is Ray Bendoza coming back? I heard that they keep screwing around with him and thats why he has not come back yet? Does he has a lawsuit aganist the company?

Another stupid Monday meeting at Pomona. Lets go around the room and point fingers at each other to find blame on why everything is screwed up? Then lets get some ideas to improve the operations. The last idea was a doosie to shrink wrap transport racks. Can't wait to hear what we are going to do this week. Seems like the best ideas come out of these meetings.

thank you thank you thank you

Hey Anon Glendale : Have you heard about those lonesome losers beaten by the "King of Razz ", everytime. You have just joined the "Lonesime Loser Club". Don't worry you are in good company. So far all are from California......

I would really like to have a few minutes alone with the moron who thought it would be a good idea to make all the mini muffin packages nearly identical.

To bhbbc: Thanks for setting the guy from LA Hostess straight. He is clueless .

lets talk about product,one week under baked,the next week burnt all to hell.Cincys production department really has issues,they suck

To Heartland Lover:This LA LOSER ALWAYS TRIES TO BE NEGATIVE. Iam originally from the midwest. I loved it when I lived in Davenport, IA. Now I live down south and love it.

Hey Spazz & b.h.b.b.c.d.e.f.g. So. Cal. is # 1 ......................... deal with it ............................... LOSERS...................................

Whats the word? is the fellow from Lakewood going to take the job or the one from San Diego? Whoever takes it is going to be up to their *ss in alligators. Why not keep Larry Lumley over there? I heard he screwed it up just as bad. Yep, this just goes to show that you can grab anybody off the street to run a bakery "NOT" After everyone get retention bonus there will be more Managers leaving? As they already are.

LOL@Cramer discovers spell check on internet explorer!!! Someone in Management?

b.h.b.b.c. and razz, Don't listen to L.A. WOMAN, like Jim Morrison said it's a shithole..Cops in cars, Topless Bars, never met a woman so alone....SO. CAL SUCKS...Take your country and leave the good old U.S. of A....alone ....so alone yeah , come on...We see your hills on fire,midnight alleys(your gangs ) roam. We want no part of your Welfare Plagued, Melting Pot of SHIT. Can't wait until your country falls off in the ocean...Take Oregon and Washington with your damn Blue State!!!!!!!!

When is Sara Lee gonna buy this company and close it down for good?

NEWS FLASH: Cramer discovers spell check on internet explorer!!!

To L.A. Hostess: i guess i have to keep teaching you how the shit works, right? okay, look, everyone who posts on this site uses the location of the facility where they work, dumbass. look at the list when you come onto the site and you will see that the only cities listed are the ones where i.b.c. has a facility. DID YOU GET THAT? by the way, given the fact that you're from mexi-err, southern cal, i'd say you are either a crip, a blood or a wetback. take the frozen twinkie and stop up the hole in your head so no more air gets out. it's all you have in there...

Human resources is to hire and screen people but they do not know if its day or night. They have poor job skills and rely on the supervisors and management in the bakery in which the job pertains to. However most of the people are related or friends to someone in management so these dummies get hired. That is why you have a bunch of uneducated people making big money and knowing very little. There are only a handful of knowledgeable people there that holds up the rest and the running of the bakery. Anyone with a brain and education will not accept a position here as you will have to lead an abnormal lifestyle and forget about your family life. Thats the facts of the matter.

hey guys whats up just checking in to see if your all still alive!!! newbedford plant looks like a barron waste land!!!!we in the sales dept have only 14 days left!!!! talk to you guys later!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Irwin, where are you?Have you been silenced ?

Lyrics for: Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head Raindrops keep falling on my head And just like the guy whose feet are too big for his Bed, nothing seems to fit. These Raindrops keep falling on my head They keep fallin' So I just did me some talkin' to the sun And I said I didn't like the way he got things Done, sleep in' on the job, these Raindrops keep falling on my head They keep fallin' But there's one thing I know, the blues they send to meet me Won't defeat me, won't be long till happiness steps up to greet me Raindrops keep falling on my head But that doesn't mean my eyes will soon be turning Red, crying's not for me, 'cause I'm never gonna stop the rain by complainin' Because I'm free, nothing's worryin' me. To LA Hostess ANON:Have a Wonderful day!

Monkey BOY A.K.A. Wrench BOY : Just want to make sure you don't get lost in the shuffle! Remember your motto! M.S.M.D.!!!!!!!!!! Hope you found that hobby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey Irwin: what is up in Davenport? Are you closing down? Haven't heard from you here in a long time.....fill us in good buddy.

I.B.C. song of the day: "One more time before we go .One more song on the radio.

Mr Wonderful: I have gotten my pooper scooper out myself. Tony has effectively ruined any morale that was left. Good Luck on your CDL!

Hey anon (ass_ho_e) Hostess LA:I can always get down to your level. Up your nose with a rubber hose.I do not live in Emporia,Ks. Although, I do live somewhere better than you. It is a place where the sun always shines on me. We don't have a state income tax, and my $5o,ooo goes alot further than yours.Go suck on a frozen Ding Dong, I heard you get twice the pleasure.

Whos in charge of hiring,SHOULD BE FIRED RIGHT NOW.

Hey rASS,you and your boyfriend live in emporia,kan. and hodgkins,ill. I live in beautiful So. Cal. Who's the loser?Comprende? Now go make me my burger,and yes,I do want fries.Fricken hillbilly.

Yo ..Paddy Kake,Sombody on the dock said OSHA coming back in on the plant, poor workin conditions an I hear cinse they won't let guys get drinks of water,when its 130..this like the fourth time this year they been in. Bud M. said they fine da hell outta us every time, why wont they lern , before OSHA shut us down???/

Really crazy at the plant, Producion is feeding the hogs a steady big meal everyday, people do not care anymore working 20hour dayes, Alot of guys retiring and getting out ,cant blame em,new guys dumb, and forman runnin around screamin and yellin at employes, someone might get a cap, Back Off you sore enfesed boner, Just let me unload my racks and trays!! Lay Low Paddy Kake, The human cold sore wrecked his Toy and is lookin to bone sombody !!!

Hey Razz: Sorry I haven't been on here in a while, been busy studying for my class a cdl test,(got my permit last week,now gearing up for hazmat endorsement) Mr. Wonderful has had all he can stand and he can't stand no more!!!!! Here's my song of the week: IF EVERYBODY HAD A BREAD TRUCK,ACROSS THE USA,WE'LL ALL BE WORKIN 15 HOURS, IF TONY HAS HIS WAY,WE WON'T BE SEEIN OUR FAMILIES,WE'LL MISS OUR TIME STOPS TOO,CUZ TONY'S DRIVIN BUSINESS, DOWN THE OLD POOP CHUTE!!!! GIT-R-DONE!!!! P.S. D- sorry about your dad

To the maestro Razz: song of the day: keep on posting, baby, you got to keep on, posting.

11 years employed in union was about where the cutting point was here. In fFl. for the route salesman. 600 total jobs were cut .Miami bakery also closed

florida,11 years to keep a job or keep a route,here in southern california,350 to be laid off aug 24,no bakerys to shut down,just office,route people and management,don't know if we can make it until aug 24

Comment: August 15 is the date the sale will be anounced.Where is the teamsters union?Anyone seen these chicken #### Reps?The only thing coming out of local 190 is hot air. What a waste of money we pay in union dues what do we get for it ? ------------------------------------------------------ What's going on in Billings? Are we closing, bought out , or what!!???

Should a partial withdrawal be found to have occurred, the amount of any partial withdrawal liability arising from the underfunded multi-employer pension plans to which IBC contributes, while less than the Company's share of the total underfunding for these plans, would likely be material and could adversely affect our financial condition and, as a general unsecured claim, any potential recovery to our constituencies.

Tis story says something about the shape of the pensions................ IBC currently contributes to over 40 multi-employer pension plans as required under various collective bargaining agreements. Many of these plans are underfunded in that their liabilities exceed their assets. The portion of a plan's underfunding allocable to an employer deemed to be totally or partially withdrawing from the plan as the result of downsizing, job transfers or otherwise is referred to as "withdrawal liability." To give an example of the size of the underfunding in IBC's pension plans, if IBC is deemed to have completely withdrawn from the two multi-employer pension plans with the largest underfunding, Bakery & Confectionary Union & Industry International Pension Fund and Central States, Southeast and Southwest Areas Pension Plan, the total withdrawal liability (which would be an unsecured claim in the bankruptcy case) is alleged by such plans to be approximately $530 million, in the aggregate. IBC does not believe a total withdrawal has occurred, and based on the facts presently known, does not believe that a total withdrawal will occur in the future. Certain of the plans have filed proofs of claim alleging that partial withdrawals have already occurred. In addition, there is a risk that the consolidation announced today could significantly increase the amount of the liability to IBC should a partial withdrawal from the multi-employer pension plans be found to have occurred. However, IBC is conducting the Florida PC consolidation in a manner that it believes will not constitute a total or partial withdrawal from the relevant multi-employer pension plans. Additionally, IBC disputes the withdrawal liability claims filed in the bankruptcy case. Nevertheless, due to the complex nature of such a determination, no assurance can be given that withdrawal claims based upon IBC's prior actions or resulting from this consolidation or future consolidations will not result in significant liabilities for IBC. Should a partial withdrawal be found to

Check your teamsters union pension .Looks like Hoffa and his croines have destroyed the teamsters union.Must be a teamster election soon as we are seeing more of the "WINDBAG JUNIOR HOFFA" You can't belive a word he says.

Most union workers are for people that are lazy, and have no accountablity for thier work. A lot like goverment employees. They need a crutch (unions) because they wouldn't be able to make it on their own merits. Remember I said Most union workes, not all

All Razzed out . It is way past coffee time. Give me a cold one.

August 15 is the date the sale will be anounced.Where is the teamsters union?Anyone seen these chicken #### Reps?The only thing coming out of local 190 is hot air. What a waste of money we pay in union dues what do we get for it ?

To LA Hostess: If you want constructive. I will give you constructive. Work longers hours for less pay . Comprende????

flowers took over ukrops label plus they are pushing north to that market in our area they did not get the sunbeam sand. bread till 7 am at their depot and said they will continue to have problems with keeoing upwith production becouse of the private label going to richmond and moving into the northern market.

To bhbbc: Don't worry about my tunes . I will keep on singing to the glorious I.B.C. masses.........

Comment: hey florida,how many drivers got laid off,and how much time in senority was needed to keep a job,and a route..give us the info The cut was about 11 years here. But you milage may vary.

To Hostess LA:I always enjoy your comments.Have you heard about that" Lonesome LA Loser "?He was beaten by the "King Of Razz "everytime. If you have seen the new "Bad News Bears", you are like the coach of the Yankees. He was the one with grapes for cajones .Keep on posting whiney ass. How's that for a constructive post??????

Well, 2 weeks have gone by into the new reconstuction of routes here in Jax. The bakery ordered for the routes the first week. (you can imagin how that worked out) The second week was much better, with us routesalesman able to order our own orders. I got put on the route (Alone) I bid on but never saw a single stop before that first day.. 14 hours later I went home. That first week was hell because most of the route was formerly run by a employee that quit the previous Sat. STALE, EMPTY TRAYS etc. Week 2 was much better, although, the routes had a target of 7 to 8K a week in net sales. As we all supected those numbers were inflated by quit a bit. I looks like my route will go about 6K but takes 3 hours longer to run than my previous 16 year route. also about $6K. wk. So, as far as I can see, we lost many routes and emploees ,but the loss in $$$ were also very high, from the stops that were lost. It's kinda weird that a company that now depends so much on it's daily cash flow, chose to dump most of it's Mom & Pop Cash stops. but kept a lot of the stops that get big discounts. But we'll see how it pans out. The moral is very low in the depot. Guy stalking about looking for other jobs. One positive thing, is the stock price. For whatever reason it's up almost 33% in the last month.

To bhbbc: That shit for brains Hostess LA finally figured out what Tony is doing .To LA Hostess : Why don't you get together with San Francisco Wonder. You started the Lonesome Loser Club,have you added any new members?

Why Ponoma, calif? Your guys up for closurer?

All our Br. Mgrs. are on a route every week. Has anyine else having this problem with turnover?

hey florida,how many drivers got laid off,and how much time in senority was needed to keep a job,and a route..give us the info

I can see Sara Lee who by the way took most all of the private label bread from the east coast bakeries now can see they can't produce that kind of volume and need help. Some of the Food Lion stores had signs up by the product that was not on the shelves stating the had problems with their machines at the plant.

Hey rASS,get lost with all your tired comments,your stupid songs of the day,your pining for the rest of the hillbillie gang.It's time to get back to some constructive posts on this site.Here's mine.Tony A. will sell the Co. as soon as all the closures and layoffs are complete.He will re-negotiate all union contracts,let go as many management people as possible,then and only then it will go to the highest bidder. This has been his company's m.o. dude, this is your constructive post? is this something new you just figured out? seems to me this has been said here a shitload of times. RAZZ, keep posting and singing...