Larry carmack was a good man. He couldn't take the stress, and wouldn't go along with the way things are run in the Phoenix circus.

Larry Carmack did a hell of a job when he was here in Illinois. He let you run a route so the needs of each store was met not the same evething the same at all stops crap. Good luck Larry in your endevors.

After running a route for the past 4 weeks I can see where the salesmen gets overwhelmed.All the different promotions, displays,time restriction, but my question is we cut routes,employees and closed bakeries and still no profit?????????

Scott if youre life is so great now why do you keep posting here and trying to get your old assistent fired?

larry carmack had enough of gary vesterbys BS and quit!!! he saw the writing on the wall.......more and more sales reps are quitting too...depots are loaded with plussess..thanks to gary

Looks like more closings are to come. Rumors out that bread and cake will move some of the lines with production to other places to cut the payroll and group production mfg. Time to seek the greener pastures elseware before the axe falls.

Anon in Cinn - 700 more jobs from the upper Midwest PC? Are they going to close any plants do get these cuts or not? The 700 or more should be for all areas not just UPM PC. The word coming out of Kafoure's mouth is all levels of sales management will be affected on this one, Branches, Account Managers, Division Managers and Sales Managers, along with some areas located in the General Office and Westbrooke location. If I had to bet though - the ones in GO and Westbrooke will be low level cuts - can not see Mike cutting the good ole boy network even though the ones that need to go are these fools. For the plant reductions, there is still some talk about a few more closing, ie. St. Louis, due to its condition and the cost of bringing it up to code, or Akron due to the value of the land it sits on compared to the actual productoion/sales it generates. Good luck all of you.

28 Feb 2006 at 9:26am Kansas City Business Journal - Interstate Bakeries Corp. has filed a plan with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Kansas City to consolidate operations in its Upper Midwest Profit Center and eliminate about 230 jobs in Indiana and Michigan. In a written release late Monday, the Kansas ...

CINCINNATI- The word on the streets today the closing of the Chillicothe,Ohio agency-They go into parts of Kentucky all southern Ohio,Circleville,Hillsboro,Jackson, Portsmouth,they have a large route average,they sell,Wonder,Hostess,and Dolly,will know this Thursday what happens 25 jobs on the line from this agency been there since 1939,I feel sorry for the route sales,garage and thrift store,it AIN'T over until the fat lady sings-good luck to all.

"The consolidation in the Upper Midwest is just the tip of the iceberg. Expect alot more in the next couple of weeks. From what I am hearing the total will be around 900 to 1,000, which means 700+ more layoffs to happen" Anon, 700 more jobs from the upper Midwest PC? Are they going to close any plants do get these cuts or not?

The only DIVA IBC ever had was MARIA BOOM BOOM LOPEZ just ask Wilson....................

Next waive of layoffs will not just be sales personnel, but rather sales management, PC management, and general office and Westbrooke personnel - Info Tech, HR and Labor.

The consolidation in the Upper Midwest is just the tip of the iceberg. Expect alot more in the next couple of weeks. From what I am hearing the total will be around 900 to 1,000, which means 700+ more layoffs to happen. Oh Kafoure, you got close with the last person you chewed out for leaking your little secrets, but you did not the true insider. Better luck next time bastard.

Hey Barger, I hear you like to guzzle cum? True dat? Listen you little rat bastard. You are lucky to have made it this long! You do nothing but play solitare on your computer. Your breath smells like dog shit, you constantly go into the restroom across from your office, take a giant morbid shit, then walk out as if you have given birth to some lovely new swaddling bundle of joy. Buy some aire freshner to stink ASS! Everyone in the office knows about your SHITTY little escapades. No one wants to smell the fast food you devoured while sitting in your car from three weeks doing nothing but running up company miles. GO GET A COLONIC and fresh'in up that BUNGHOLE!

Razz--CONGRATS ON THE JOB OFFER! Listen, when you wake from your dream, you will find out for YOU to live that live--as unqualified and moronic as you are, you'd have to: rob a bank, steal a car, apply for Medicade, then sit on your ass all weekend... Shit you already do 3 of the four of these--guess it wouldn't hurt to complete the puzzle huh??

SO, YOU THINK DEB'S LEAVING. WILL SOLVE THE PROBLEM. WELL, I TELL YA. WHETHER SHES HERE OR GONE. ANYONE IN THAT POSITION NEVER AFFECTED ME OR MY JOB. FURTHER MORE, WHY LET ANYBODY YOU WORK WITH GET UNDER YOUR SKIN THAT WAY. USE SOME SELF CONTROL AND GET TO WORK. I THINK WE ALL IN SACTO. ARE IN FOR A FEW SURPRISES. DON'T KNOW IF THATS GOOD OR BAD. BUT FOR NOW. JOE'S HERE TO SAVE THE DAY. OH, BY THE WAY. WALMART WILL WORK YOU 7 1/2 HOUR SHIFTS

what about Joe? he is not the problem. I don' work in shipping, but from what i here all your problems will go away on friday

sounds good cowboy, got any job openings over there with you

IBC Announces Plan to Consolidate Depots, Delivery Routes and Retail Outlets in Its Upper Midwest Profit Center -------------------------------------------------- KANSAS CITY, Mo., Feb. 27 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Interstate Bakeries Corp. (IBC) (OTC: IBCIQ) gave further details in a filing with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court here today about its plans to consolidate routes, depots and retail outlets in its Upper Midwest Profit Center (PC), affecting approximately 230 employees in Indiana and Michigan. The company said that, subject to bankruptcy court approval, it expects to complete the consolidation of depots, routes and retail outlets by March 13. The company is still considering whether additional consolidations, restructurings or closures are warranted in the Upper Midwest PC and intends to announce in the near future what, if any, additional measures it will undertake. The preliminary estimate of charges to be incurred in connection with the consolidation in the Upper Midwest PC is approximately $0.7 million, including approximately $0.4 million of severance charges, approximately $0.1 million of asset impairment charges, and approximately $0.2 million in other charges. IBC further estimates that approximately $0.6 million of such costs will result in future cash expenditures. In addition, IBC estimates that the payment of approximately $0.3 million in capital expenditures and accrued expenses will be required to effect the consolidation. In response to significant increases in production costs -- primarily related to rising ingredient prices (such as flour and sugar) and continuing high energy costs -- throughout all regions, the company announced that it is reviewing the prospect of passing these increased costs along through strategic pricing actions. Any strategic pricing actions would be in addition to the company's efforts to reduce costs through the PC review and consolidation process. Increased production costs have had a significant negative effect on the company's operating margins in recent periods. Any strategic pricing actions, together with the cost control efforts mentioned above, would be designed to lessen the impact of the higher production costs on the company's operating margins. No assurance can be given that the company will be able to pass along any portion of the increased production costs through pricing actions or that such pricing actions will not have a negative effect on sales. Further, no assurance can be given that the PC review and consolidation process will be successful or aid the company's efforts to offset the increased production costs. As previously disclosed, IBC currently contributes to more than 40 multiemployer pension plans as required under various collective bargaining agreements, many of which are underfunded. The portion of a plan's under funding allocable to an employer deemed to be totally or partially withdrawing from the plan as the result of downsizing, job transfers or otherwise is referred to as "withdrawal liability." Certain of the plans have filed proofs of claim in IBC's bankruptcy case alleging that partial withdrawals have already occurred. IBC disputes these claims; however, there is a risk that the consolidation announced today could significantly increase the amount of the liability to IBC should a partial withdrawal from the multiemployer pension plans covering the Upper Midwest PC employees be found to have occurred. IBC is conducting the Upper Midwest PC consolidation in a manner that it believes will not constitute a total or partial withdrawal from the relevant multiemployer pension plans. Nevertheless, due to the complex nature of such a determination, no assurance can be given that withdrawal claims based upon IBC's prior action or resulting from this consolidation or future consolidations will not result in significant liabilities for IBC. Should a partial withdrawal be found to have occurred, the amount of any partial withdrawal liability arising from the underfunded multiemployer pension plans to which IBC contributes would likely be material and could adversely affect our financial condition and, as a general unsecured claim, any potential recovery to our constituencies. Interstate Bakeries Corporation filed for bankruptcy protection on September 22, 2004, citing liquidity issues resulting from declining sales, a high fixed-cost structure, excess industry capacity, rising employee healthcare and pension costs and higher costs for ingredients and energy. The company continues to operate its business in the ordinary course as a debtor-in-possession. About the Company Interstate Bakeries Corporation is one of the nation's largest wholesale bakers and distributors of fresh-baked bread and sweet goods, under various national brand names, including Wonder(R), Baker's Inn(R), Merita(R), Hostess(R) and Drake's(R). The company is headquartered in Kansas City. Cautionary Statement Regarding Forward-Looking State

The racing divas is the stupidest promo ever.What's next? Willie Wonka? What a waste of money.Plusses this week=Stale next week.Every depot has so much stock just sitting there,just so that a DM can say he hit his numbers.In the coming weeks there will be so much product thrown away.What a bunch of dumbshits.

Who the h**l is RAZZ?

We say good bye to D.Eagan what a loud mouth who doesnt know his ass from a hole in the ground from what we gatherd here he rides the coat tails of other hard working employees and hasnt a clue about the shipping aspect of this company keep him in iowa where nobody needs him

Here we go again. Another change. 7 hour shifts no overtime, product not being run, trucks getting out late, product gets to the stores late. Possibly lose customers. Wheres the logic in that plan? We understand you want to save the company money in overtime expenses, but with this new plan someone will be getting the overtime. Isn't it less to pay a bakers union employee overtime than a teamster. Things were running pretty smooth up to the present time. Hey, these changes may look good on paper, but thats not reality. Get a grip and let us do our job. I myself and a few others would like to see Wonder Bread make it. So, don't fix whats not broken.

To bhbbc: Don't Hold Back!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the enlightenment anon in Sacramento. Hey Cowboy , I guess if you were a mgr. , then not everyone is going to be your friend. I had my friends , and enemies also....

Does anyone know if Larry Carmack or Jim Dexter are still with the Company. If so were are they Located

I would watch who you are telling to kiss any body parts - that is how the lawsuit got filed on Mr. Charles Smith - problem was he was doing more than just kissing the body parts. Another lawsuit was filed today against Smith - I just have one question for Charlie -is there any female you did not force to play office games with you - I have met this person before who filed today (granted well endowed but ugly so much for your choices), they just keep filing against you - Charlie boy.

D Yust watch your back - Buddy - I know you have been selling me out as well -

Charlie Smith you can kiss my A$$ - I will survive and you Sir will be fired - heard from a very good source in westbrook - So all I have to do is stay out of the plant and they will do the rest for me. Good Bye A$$hole

Guess It's been nice working with ya MIke

Is it true that they are building a new office for Mike Barger & Dan Yust to share when they are at the bakery together? If I catch that hairy lil barger not working more time I'll personally fire his a$$

Chris on vacation! Never a good thing around here.

If this hurt guy is anything like Fat Boy Hoffa, then the inside guys are F**ked as well. Hoffa can kiss my A$$ I would rather vote for Fu**ing Micky Mouse then to put that dumb motherf****r back in charge. I wish someone would make him disappear like his daddy did.

Hurt and Oakley from the BC&TGM and Hoffa and Vople from the Teamsters all met this weekend with Tony and Mike about the future of the unions within IBC. As usual they have agreed to sell the soul of the rank & file. (Just like Tony expected, damm now I owe him a Dollar on our bet.) Basically, as long as the heads of the unions get what they want, (financially), they do not care about how it affects the rank & file morons (Hurt?s words not mine). After meeting with these low-lives?s I felt like I needed a shower. The goons, (sorry bodyguards), that accompanied these four individuals all dress like they belong in the Godfather. And we thought Sullivan, Elsesser and Yarick were crooks, compared to the MOB guys listed above, they are only petty thieves

Bankrupt baker IBC reports loss narrows in most recent period (World-Grain.com, February 27, 2006) Related stories Financial results reported in U.S. dollars. KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI, U.S. ? Interstate Bakeries Corp. sustained a loss of $5,569,011 in the four-week period ended Jan. 7, compared with a loss of $10,119,904 in the four-week period ended Dec. 10, according to an 8-K filed Feb. 22 with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Sales in the four weeks ended Jan. 7 fell to a new low of $204,436,273, down 9% from $223,768,853 in the previous four-week period. Operating expenses finished at $117,400,882, down from $120,175,191 in the previous four-week period. Restructuring and reorganization expenses during the most recent period included charges for professional fees of approximately $2,804,000, key employee retention plan and restructuring bonus accruals of approximately $327,000, and employee relocation expense accruals of approximately $625,000. Those expenses were offset partially by gains resulting from the sale of properties of approximately $25,460,000. As of Jan. 7, IBC had not borrowed under its $200 million debtor-in-possession credit facility, which is subject to a borrowing base formula based on its level of eligible accounts receivable, inventory, certain real property and reserves. IBC said the credit facility was used to support the issuance of letters of credit primarily in support of the company?s insurance programs. Also as of Jan. 7, there were $90.2 million of letters of credit outstanding, which were partially collateralized by $69.2 million of restricted cash as shown on the monthly operating report. The amount of the credit facility available for borrowing was $78 million as of Jan. 7.

((((((((((0)))))))))) ((((((((((0))))))))))) I have a CLUE I have a CLUE I have a CLUE NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tom, Yes Larry and Ray are still working, In your post you said you thought Bain and Ray would make things better! Like they say we don't pay you to think! We wen't from better to way worse.

To Rob -Cols.Ohio, This is my last week,leaving for UPS. Will not miss working week-ends. The pay is ungodly.The only reason I got the job,my brother n law is a manager.good luck Larry

the n.c.p.c. is all screwed up. all those idiots that are running it, like, Dan "shithead" angst, Stan "Pewny little shit" Snyder, don "stupid as a fuckin' dorr, randy "piece of fucking' shit" vauk, and all the rest of them have this p.c. all fucked up. they are all nothing' but a bunch of alcoholics, child molesters, wife beaters, and wannabe priests. go i.b.c...

To: R.M. Insider Is Larry J. and Ray B. still working? I used to work for them in Charlotte. I thought that Mr Bain and Mr Ray where going to make things better!!!!

To Razz, Cowboy sucked and that's why he got canned. Noone liked him and noone wants him back.

To bhbbc: I am going for an interview this week. I got a call Friday night , and he said that he saw my resume online this week. Usually, I brush these off , but I told the guy I was interested. 40K + company car, full benefits , and WEEKENDS off. I already checked their website out, and everything.I am trying to find a company , that I might have a future with. Obviously, there are better jobs out there.I have been in no hurry , since I am currently employed. Although, the time is drawing near for a move on my part. The writing is on the wall, and I figure that I have less than a year , to find another job. IBCing you later hopefully......

To Cowboy: It is good to see you post again.I bet you are disgusted , by how ridiculous these posts have become. I think that post was about you coming back , because they need your help. They have lost alot of good managers over the past year.

...Randy Vauk is one of these.

To Akron: The first few weeks of it is hell. You have cake piled all over your truck. You don't know what anything is, product codes, or what sells. Your first few weeks will be huge dallors. After a few weeks you will learn what days to order what and what days to not, your days will still longer but not as bad as it seems when you first start the restucture. The dollars will be there, and then some after all is said and done.

we are going to go through the the route restucture here in Akron. Cake lost 4 routes (had 14) and bread lost 5 routes (out of 14). How is this restructure working for other people ? All I want to do is is start running $7000. like I use to about 9 years ago. It's been all down hill since.

It amazes me that this company is allowing individuals to apply for positions that they know nothing about and then putting them in those positions.

HEY COWBOY, COME APPLY

Get yourself a new job before you are thrown out in the cold. The ship is sinking.

to Razz: we left of our own accord, but, we thought that our tenure would soon end, given the fact that we weren't liked too much by management. we guess we were a little too vocal about certain situations and conditions. so we went back to our old field. a very good company in the Chicago area that just inked a thirteen year deal with Intel Corp. we work Monday thru Friday, 6 am till 2:30 pm, overtime is OPTIONAL, and the pay, well, started off at 46K per year. we don't think we did too bad, considering. as we have said in the past, this company has a lot of good people both in management and in the rank and file. some managers would make awesome route men and some route men would make awesome managers. a lot of companies manage to figure this out and make some good moves. unfortunately, others don't. i.b.c. is one of these. some companies figure it out later on and manage to salvage something. others never figure it out. i.b.c. is one of these. by the same token, i.b.c. has too many worthless managers that wouldn't do a good job cleaning shit out of a toilet...

Finally some good posts- No stupid songs and poems-

To bhbbc: You would think , that upper mgt. would ask, " How are things going ?", when visiting a location. I always felt that, they were not truly doing their job, if they were not concerned, with the problems of the rank and file. The company likes to look , the other way , when it comes to many of the issues at hand. Anyways, you never told me if you left of your own accord, or were you run off?

To Mike In W.A. Thanks for the positive, and intelligent post.

Curtis your fired !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mr. Anonymous, We know who you are. We know were you live. Have a nice day.

E-MAIL To: mike_ocker@interstatebrands.com Dear Mike, The company is dead. Sincerely, Tony

although we are no longer with the company, we would like to say that we are in total agreement with Razz and Mike Ocker. in the N.C.P.C. things are run terribly. threats and intimidation are the order of business here. if the v.p. of the p.c. shows up, div. Mgr and branch Mgr alike are shitting in their boots. we once asked to speak to the VP of our p.c. and were told by our DM that he dosen't talk to us. this must have been true in his mind also as each time we saw him (dan angst) at the depot he would never so much as offer the greeting of the day. typical of management in this and many other companies, they consider themselves better than the rank and file, yet, the rank and file are the ones who sell the product that bings in the revenue that pays for everything. and we can't even have a sit down with the boss. go figure...

Comment: Phoenix plus out on Fri., 2/24: 104 trays of cake; 2621 units; $2200. Can anyone top that!? You must be a new employee. Thats been the M.O. for many years. One reason why I left Co. Had more Mini Muffin TS than total sales. Central Az. Proj. will start to call again with excess product in the canals. Face the facts. Ya have some yo-yo's running the show. Wait til it gets Hot out and see how many hours you'll run. OMG!

To : Razz I respect the fact that things can be pushed to way side within the company...and this is likely on a bakery to bakery basis throughout. The great thing about this site is that we have a chance to promote ideas about how the prosperity of our company can be achieved. As a business, we all realize that economic reductions are necessiatated, and are the basic structural boundaries that seperate the hourly employees opinions from that of the management's. It is much simpler for some, than others, to differentiate what is and is not management. The target is all too often at management. At what level is the question. The level of management seems to range vastly throughout this company, from region to region. What is considered to be management in the some areas, to us is an hourly employee. Same as I am. I don't understand the lack of input in positive ways though. I think we all need to start putting in positive ideas, as we seem to be the only ones who can. Let's save the jobs that we can! If the company is dead...please let me know, as I missed the e-mail! The amount of product handled by common carrier in a ton of areas has grown. How the hell is this helping matters? Slap the cost comparison information together as we are doing. It seems to slap a rosey front, to an ugly ass end. Are we the the only ones lacking the inabilty to see the inefficiencies? I guess if we all start to see the magnitude of what is wrong in this company, and allow it to conitinue, without speaking up...We should be wearing the "Dumbass" label, that we can so easily tag on the management of this company...without saying a word. C'mon people...To validate who I really am...Phone number is 253-444-1113 or 1115. Northwest P.C.and a lot of people throughout the country know this fact. Give it a call, and I will be more than happy to attest to this as well. Let's start working on the improvement, as we are what will continiue to drive this compnay in the right direction. Razz...Thank you for the response. You seem to have the voice of many...and seem to use it in the most adventageous manner to accomodate both parties. I repsect What you do, and your veiwpoints. Mike Ocker

You know damn right!

To anon from Phoenix: Are you kidding???? If not , then the district mgr./ area mgr. should be questioned.Gotta hit those numbers , however ridiculous they may seem.

Phoenix plus out on Fri., 2/24: 104 trays of cake; 2621 units; $2200. Can anyone top that!?

LA Scotts last name Ahmad. The guy that used to run Sacramento. He is from Saudi Arabia.

To you know who I am and mike Ocker: You both bring up good points. Although, it does not matter , if we give 100% . All that matters to upper mgt. is to hammer out new contracts ,with wage and benefit reductions. Also, shut down as many bakeries as possible. Your bakery may be making a profit , and still be slated for closure. The employees , are going to continue to complain , until they see a new I.B.C. One thing is for sure , upper mgt. will never listen to suggestions from the common employee. How many times, have we had changes done in areas , and an employee will ask ... Why is this being done?? Do you ever get a REAL answer? I am talking pre - BK , but it has only progressively gotten worse since BK. Well, I expect to give 100% , but I only wish upper mgt. would do the same....

WHO IS D.R. IN SACRAMENTO?

Heard Jimmy "FATBOY" Hoffa on the news today what a bag of hot air.You can tell he is up for election we will see and hear alot from that worthless bag of wind .When is he going to adress the issues of the rank and file in the bakery industry?

anybody have the union at there depot today ti tell the bad news(southern california)PAY CUTS,DROP SHIPMENTS,NO NEED TO STIKE THERE IS NO CONTRACT...how are you guys in northern cali doing? any news on your deals???

This board is getting stupid. You have to scroll through miles of BS just to read anything interesting. Quit bagging on each other, we all do the same damn thing every day. Merry christmas all.

I know where is dat my cozzin Tony is from. Da Phillipines, but I move with him to United States and now he promote me to Manager where I take your job Gringo! And you work for me white boy. You pop off again, I make you scoop donkey poop. No refritos or tortilla for you PUTO..

To: Mike Ocker Perhaps the demise of IBC was in part caused by most managers not having a degree. Lakewood?s managers are all good people but the lack of a college education showed in their people and business skills. With the good ol boy system having been in place for so long some managers did not belong in their position and perhaps an underling such as your self would have been a much better choice. Martin and Randy are respectable family men who gave 100% to IBC and the employees; they did not deserve the nasty comments. We should all be aware that anyone can post on this site in name someone else.

I hate to bust your bubble- Alvarez ,from the Philippine's not Mexico- If you act stupid on this board,get your stupid stuff correct-

The New Bakery Company, Zanesville, Ohio The New Bakery Company of Ohio ensures quality within the Wendy's system as a key part of our extended family. A wholly owned subsidiary of Wendy's International, Inc., the bakery supplies buns for hamburger and chicken sandwiches to company and franchise-operated Wendy's restaurants. The current facility produces about 750 million sandwich buns per year and is running at full capacity. A second facility was opened in November 2001. Located in Zanesville, Ohio, about 50 miles east of Columbus, The New Bakery Company of Ohio strives to be the "Employer of Choice" for Southeastern Ohio

Hola! Como Estas Ud? My name is JOSE PENA SANTIAGO TOMAS ANTONIO ALVAREZ and I am your new "Heffe" that's spanish for boss! After all of the years of washing deeeshes at a Mexican food restaurant, I have been given a job running the cake line back in Mexico and controlling all of you Gringos. I was given the job from my cozz'in Antonio Alvarez. I make lots of Pesos every day. Now let's get to work ARRIBA-RIBA-RIBA UNDELE UNDELE GRINGOS. How the tables have turned. VIVA MEXICICO! VIVA VICENTE FOX! TE GUSTA LA BERGA? ME GUSTA LAS CHICAS BONITAS CON GRANDE CHI CHI'S! HASTA LLUEGO MIS AMIGOS! JOSE

Eagan's presence here is simply to help get D.R. out of trouble for some illicit behavior AGAIN

Almost forgot... To all the comical posts regarding the Mexico deal... As was also previously mentioned...you are clearly in the dark. The person who had responded earlier about the Mexican border crossing time...seems to be vastly more in tune with reality. The Canadian border can cause delays of such magnitude, that our drivers can't make it back... The 300 mile round trip event that it is! You don't even need a passport to get in to that country (Yet ). Believe it or not...even "Common Carriers" have the same D.O.T. regulations that we have to abide by. And they would be working a union job in most cases, like us, given the choice. So why not cut the crap...and stick to the reality of what can make this company what it used to be. We in the Northwest, have grown increasingly tired of the B.S. that could or couldn't be...This is Bakery number 2, that has closed for every remaining employee in this region...Be it Seattle, Portland or Spokane...My former bakery. Every last employee remaining transferred from one of these. Maybe that makes us morons...Or maybe we the employees in this company need to start making their voices heard. And maybe for once in a positive way.

To : Post about a third of the way down the page. The rumors are abundant that the bakery will be auctioned off around the middle of March. Whether there is any validity to this...who knows. From the remainder of rumors that are still in place, it appears that perhaps Maple Leaf Foods, based out of Canada, is the frontrunner. From what we have all heard, they are a union company, and the pay and benefits are up in the air. To all the Lakewood guys and gals...I wish you all the best of luck in pursuing new futures, in the same location we should have thrived. Hope this helps. To answer the seemingly never ending questions as to Martin Schuler's status...He is indeed no longer with the company, as has been mentioned. I for one, know Martin and his family will thrive in any future endeavors that they tackle. Don Dabner has assumed the principal role of Distribution Manager for the Northwest. As for the comments made much earlier, regarding he and Randy Timmons...There is no excuse for that. The lack of integrity by the person posting, makes me ashamed that I work for the same company as them. ( Assuming I Do ) The position of middle management, in any company, will always be a target. You however have to draw the line somewhere. Perhaps people are missing the fact that these people are now looking for jobs as well. The fact that these people have families and friends, have apparently been missed. I would personally like to thank both of the above mentioned individuals for the opportunites that made a reality. It's not that damn easy to get a high paying job, without a degree anymore...and it seems some have forgotten that. I wish you both the best. To Deb in Sac...If you are indeed departing the ways of Wonder...Good luck to you as well. To all of the anonymous postings in Sacramento. Give Joe and Dave a shot! The continuous trashing of personnel attempting to expand their abilities in any type of management position is getting tiresome. The whole thing is the same self defeating attitude that is driving the company further down. The fact is, the company can only succeed with the employees, and the employees can only succeed with a company. I know...sounds cheesy as hell! ( Job market is not as pretty as what some seem to paint here in the Northwest ) The facts are pretty simple though. People can continue to sit back and destroy each other online (Management or not ), and we will continue to spiral in the same downward direction as we seem to be going. Otherwise, speak the hell up, and state what needs to be done in the company to improve it. As employees, we don't seem to be heading in the right direction. Anyone have any thoughts?

HELLO IN ROCKY MOUNT NC. IT IS OFFICAL NOW WE ARE COMING TO NC. TO START A NEW PLANT WE HAVE PRODUCT IN ROCKY MOUNT, WILSON, RALEIGH AND WE HAVE JUST LEASED A BUILDING ON ENGLISH ROAD WE WILL START WITH 1BREAD LINE THEN ADD A BUN LINE WE PLAIN TO BE UP AND RUNING BY AUG.21ST. AND THE CAKE LINE BY FEB. 3RD 2007. WATCH THE LOCAL PAPER FOR OUR MAJOR ANOUNCEMENT.

break out the C.A.D. software...

The end is near. Big boys meet and decide your future or lack there of a future. PIII look out.

Just found out about this board, thought I would check you out, I heard there are some interesting people posting, with some interesting facts.Or fiction?

Big Deb should start with you Randy you ass-kisser.Randy you are a first class loser.

INSLIDER AT GO,FINE DONT GIVE US YOUR NAME ,HOW ABOUT CONCRETE INFO. YOU THINK THEY SOLD THE UNIONS ON THIS.FOR PETE SAKE GIVE US INFO

Wonder/Hostess has been baked in Mexico for over twenty years.It was a franchise bakery when CBC owned it.My son went to college in Mexico and would bring it back to Ohio.So what is the big deal????

Deb W. will get rid of the losers and then the Billings plant will only get better.

That's not a sourdough loaf, that's my shlong!!!!

I THOUGHT SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WAS ALREADY IN MEXICO !!!!!!!!!

Does St Louis have any bun production? Word going around is that Lenexa will start producing buns 6 days a week in April

How can any of you guys be shocked at the decision to open a plant in Mejico? There are so many companies already there. Frito Lay has been there a long time.Sucks for the bakers but it should be good for the route people.

I need your mailing address for Human Resources in Charlotte

"Dont even talk to me about class as your "company" is infested by crooks,malcontents and people with liitle or no ethics--- ________________________ The previous poster brings a Very Very True Point and the biggest ones are at the TOP, MIDDLE,BOTTOM of the IBC food chain

DIRECT QUOTES from Post directed to me by S-T-B-E-IBC-S: "Of course you didnt read the original part of my posting that stated that there WERE good people at IBC, yet their voices were being drowned out by the malcontents here on this site. Hey, nothing like letting the facts get in the way of a misinformed scree... right??"........ AND THEN FOLLOWED BY (LOGICALLY?) "Dont even talk to me about class as your "company" is infested by crooks,malcontents and people with liitle or no ethics--- and sister.. that is from the BOTTOM UP.. not the TOP DOWN." It appears someone is off their meds??.SIR!!!, Memphis makes money and so does anyone willing to work 16-18 hr. days, like my husband, who is a M!-A!-N!, something males like you will never be.

To Pete: Why would I identify myself? If you don't like what I have to say, don't read it and by all means don't follow any of my advice. I told everyone about the Florida closings early and about Lakewood closing. Was I correct--YES! Need I say more. Best of Luck living in your close-minded world. Just wait and see if I am right. I hear about the plans several times per week and I just report the facts to all of you. Believe them or Not. Either way, I sleep better know that you folks are told the honest truth. If you continue to put on those blinders, you will continue to live everyday knowing that IBC controls YOUR DESTINY. Pony up, be a man, make your own smart decisions. Quit being led astray by the political machine in place. Morale must be kept up for a while or the move to Mexico will fail and there will be no golden parachute for the fearless leaders of this company. Don't you want the lifetime medical, huge severence packages and nothing but the good life for these gentlemen and their families. If not, how selfish of you! Just think, you could be washing dishes at Ruth's Chris when they come in to dine on steak and lobster. What an honor that would be; to wash Tony Alvarez's plate. How DREAMY:) You will get an opportunity to do so soon enough. So hone you dishwashing skills. Remember, soap on, rinse off, hand-dry; no spots because Tony doesn't eat off of spotted plates and flatware. So everyone--all together now--FOR PETE'S SAKE listen up.

RAZZ DON'T CRY I'M SORRY THIS BUTT IS FOR YOU I MEAN THIS BUD IS FOR YOU XOXOXOXOXOOXOXOXOOXOOX

St. Louis will be closed because to bring the plant up to proper codes is cost prohibitive. The big dogs are tired of putting money into a sink hole. Sorry to say but it has nothing to do with the production or sales factors - the plant keeps hitting the engineering hit list for closure and Tony and Mike are tired of seeing it and have told Hobbs to shutter the place.

The St Louis plant is very profitable and orders are picking up.....how could they think about closing it? I think someone is full of hot air. Check our numbers!

i understand and sorry for those who have lost thier jobs .. my point was there isn,t any thing any better out there

I heard today that bun lines are starting back up in closed plants. I.B.C. up to no good? closeing plants then reopening months later after everyone was severanced out. How SHITTY!!!!!!!!!! Close plants then think about bun season. How are we going to meet the demand? We will just screw over the American working man.

Steve ask the folks from Lakewood about losing there jobs not very secure anyMO

Columbo graphics on trailers, We have a 53' trailer with a very vulger image of a long sourdough loaf it's sick get it off the rolling stock stop the shock everyone knows what it really is ment to look like IBC clean up your act

Now we wont have to got to taco bell we can just have a pot luck of Mexican food. In the plant. yo kito

Aqu? en Glendale nosotros abrazamos nuestra fuerza de trabajo hispana, Su muy extra?o ese porcentaje de pomona de trabajadores hispanos parece muy bajo comparado al resto de la PROFIT CENTER Hmmmm?????????

Yeah he looks like stevie wonder wit shades on

do any of you who are writing about the mexican plant opening realise how many mexicans ibc has working for them? believe me ther,es a lot

hey can we loose the black guy in court it, getting kind of old don,t ya think !

Hey Sac you can Keep Dave Eagan..

DEAR INSIDER AT G/O,WHY DON'T YOU GIVE US YOUR IDENTITY,OR ARE YOU LIKE ALL OF THE OTHER TERRORIST WHO ENJOY SCARING OTHERS. WE ALL HAVE ENOUGH TO WORRY ABOUT WITHOUT NIM-WITS LIKE YOU. BE A HERO AND TELL US WHO YOU ARE. BE THE BIG MAN ,THEN WE WILL ALL KNOW IF THIS IS VALID INFORMATION. AND PLEASE DON'T GIVE A LAME EXCUSE ABOUT LOSING YOUR JOB. IF YOUR GOING TO SCREAM FIRE IN A CROWDED THEATER AT LEAST BE THE ONE WHO TAKES CREDIT. PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND IN THE KNOW AND STOCWATCHER SUCK. GIVE US SOME REAL PROOF,IF THIS WERE TRUE THE UNIONS WOULD BE SCREAMING. THEY HAVE A LOT OF RANK AND FILE TO LOSE. UNTIL YOU CAN GIVE US SOMETHING CONCRETE YOU ARE FULL OF SH;;

I'm hoping to get a job in one of our Mexican bakeries as a floor buffer.

I just heard from an insider that each new bakery in Mexico will have a fifty- caliber positioned on the roof to keep the banditos away. Only three cents a bullet on the other side of the border.

I've gone over your formula and see no problems. Kudos.

To those in Cal. Dave Eagan is a decent guy and a good manager. I remember him from years back in STL good luck to you all

To bhbbc: It used to be fun posting on here. Also, it only used to take a couple of beers to digest this B.S. Now it takes a six pack , and some cinnamon schnapps shots.....I do not mind getting bashed by different people, with differing opinions, but this lame ass MF gets a little old. Sounds like everyone will be phased out in the near future, so I guess he can tell someone in the unemployment line his B.S.Oh, the gang would be embarrassed , by this idiot....My songs were the only thing that used to lighten this board up a bit.

To Blue boy: Do you really want to hurt me Do you really want to make me cry Words that burn me Losers never ask you why In my heart the fire's burning Choose my colour Find a star Precious people always tell me That's a step A step too far Do you really want to hurt me Do you really want to make me cry Do you really want to hurt me Do you really want to make me cry Words are few I have spoken I could waste a thousand years posting.

Is it Blue Boy or Down low guy? Please make up your mind. You are really boring this whole board. Quit going both ways......

For all of you finally coming to the realization that your union management has sold you out - oh what a suprise. How else does Frank Hurt and Bob Oakley and the rest of the thugs afford the fancy cars and the house in Aruba and the long vacations in the islands. I will tell you they are really living nicely off of your union dues. Also the money we are giving them to sell you out, actually it was a lot less than what we were expecting to pay them basically you have been sold out for pennies on the dollar. So we in labor thank you Frank and Bob, and enjoy the yatch trip, remember the beer is on IBC.

Is the rumor true that Big Deb is moving to mexico to work for interstate brands

Martin Schuler was hired by a Mr. Willie Hill of Washington state as Mr. Hill?s personal assistant, hair stylist and chef. Martin told me he now makes over twice the money he did at IBC.

Were did Martin Schuler go? Was he fired from IBC? Oh-Noooooooooo was he hired by my new employer? When is da party?

DONE DEAL! THE UNION HAS SOLD YOU OUT FOLKS! No increases and higher insurance rate for everyone. Keep in mind, your jobs are going to Mexico in less than 12 months. EVERY ONE OF THEM! The boys are happy with their negotiation skills and your union bosses got a little love for agreeing to the concessions. It's a cruel world, but someone has to save their own butts. Those butts aren't your's though! STL and Emporia cake may be shifting as early as October to Mexico. Nonexistant tarriffs there. A pie will cost 6-cents to make there versus 15-20 cents(flavor difference) out of Emporia--before transportation. The Brass will receive very large sums of money for their efforts in selling off the company assets. Their packages include lifetime medical benefits, monthly retirement checks and moneies in excess of $1MM dollars--on the low end! That's right--For those of you making $15/hr that translates to 32.05 yrs of work BEFORE TAXES! These guys will get it for doing nothing more than negotiating away your future. Mosy of you will never make $1MM in your entire working careers. It's good to know that at the very least, Alvarez, Kafoure, Morgan and the henchmen will be living the high-life.. At your expense. Good Luck.

not able to fine website how van i get to the websits

The sooner all the bakeries close down the better it will be for all concerned. There is no cure for Cancer.

I LOVE RAZZ ALL OF US FAGS HAVE TO STAY UNITED AND IBC IS A GOOD PLACE FRO ME AND RAZZ TO BE UNITED DO IT GENTLY RAZZ YOUTHE MAN SING ANOTHER FAG SONG ,FAGGER

Martin Schuler is no longer employed with IBC at all.

To MR!!! Soon to be Ex-Supplier- So you can be crude instead of facing the fact the supplies that go in bread, etc. can't be sold if they are not delivered by Flowers and Sara Lee. I notice you never addressed that my oh so, so, angry one. Here's what class sounds like.......you spoke badly of the people who are out there working, not the people who did not pay the bills, not to mention, instead of addressing a logical question from me you turned coarse and personal. Feel like you are big and strong now, MR!!!!

RE:HARD WORKER Apparentely it's not falling on deaf ears since you're acknowledging the bitching and complaining, doofus!

As for Martin from Wash. he's not coming. As for Dave Eagan, none of use here know whats up either. All I can say is he better take it slow and get the real picture of whats going on in Sac. A good word of advice for him or anyone in that spot, is to stay away from the guys that are afraid everyone is out to get them. Those guys are like an infection in your mouth, they should be spit out.

Winers, cheaters and complainers. You better watch your back. Some of us want to keep our jobs and like what we do. The good ones will band together and wipe you out. SO IN CLOSING COUNT YOUR BLESSINGS. SHUTUP AND DO YOUR JOBS. MYSELF AND OTHERS ARE SICK OF YOUR BITCHING, AND IT IS FALLING ON DEAF EARS, GET A CLUE, HELLO. YOU ARE OUT NUMBERED.

You are not from LA and Sac is NOT in shambles. Only problem is a couple shippers think they can run managers they do not like out. They need to realize that if they lose their job = Rainbo won't hire them and the only other is 11.00/ hr , no benefits at Mary Anne's. Baker's Reps should spend their time organizing that place instead of WASTING their time (time expenced by Bakers Dues) defending worthless people that get fired because they don't come to work! As far as our shipping manager record in Sac: "Good help is hard to find" and I guess NONE of them was able to hang. Shippers beware! They might just find one now that won't put up with the dramatics. The new Ops Manager is no fool, so there is first step. Good Bakers: You know who you are and keep the faith and ignore the losers that make up the rumors. Bad Bakers: You Did Not run Deb out. She is going into Bigger and Better things. All you Deb haters WILL all go DOWN sooner or later, one way or another. Examples: Scott A. & Robert H. (ex- haters/ ex- employees) Also, the comment about Costco Joe: Go to Costco and tell him to his face your comments. Costco Joe is "oldschool" I'm sure he would meet you outside somewhere and teach you a thing or two.

TO: "Soon To Be Ex-IBC Supplier" I said B - R - E - A - D and cake, not just cake. If the product isn't out, it can't be purchased. So your supplies are going to good use. Besides, I visit the BK lawyer's site and if you download the court documents, you see where the invoices are being transferred for payment, unless they were found to be duplicate claims or something. Who are you anyway, "Mr. Soon to be Ex-Supplier"?

did martin S. from lakewood take over Sacramento shipping?

TO SACRAMENTO SHIPPING: What the hell is going on up in Sacramento? In the past 10 years that I've been working for IBC, I've seen like 6 or 7 Managers come and go. There was this Glenn guy, John, Benny. Then Scott A., can't spell his last name, then Rudy and then Joe, Deb and now some guy from Iowa. WTF?? Scott was by far the best, Rudy was okay, Debbi, I think she was the assistant, was no help. I hear she is leaving and now everything is in shambles. I talked to Dave(Iowa) and can't tell if he is a temp fix or permanent. I know one thing for sure, things haven't been smooth running in a year or so. I'm glad I'm in Socal. Good Luck Sacramento you poor fools!

Look ay the last trade amount of IBC stock: IBC OTC:IBCIQ.PK Last Trade: 6.66 Trade Time: 10:53AM ET 6 6 6 LOL

Kansas City Business Journal - 10:14 AM CST Wednesday IBC improves loss, posts lower revenue Interstate Bakeries Corp. reduced its loss for the four weeks that ended Jan. 7 compared with the prior four weeks. In a Wednesday filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, the Kansas City-based maker of Wonder Bread and Twinkies (Pink Sheets: IBCIQ) reported a loss of $5.6 million for the period, compared with a loss of $9.7 million for the four weeks that ended Dec. 10. Gross income for the period that ended Jan. 7 was $204.4 million, down 9 percent from $223.8 million the prior four weeks. Interstate Bakeries filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on Sept. 22, 2004. The SEC requires it to file monthly operating reports, which are unaudited and subject to material change.

That's right! Rejoice! Rejoice! Your dream coming true! Little Deb is leaving. You think you will have your way! Stupid Bakers! You think your sooo good?! Your Fat Rep is a retard! And his new (suck-ass) assistant will take his job out from under him first chance he can. I hope they reactivate "The Hurt" because "The Hurt" has bigger balls than all of you losers!

When is Flowers going to buy out I.b.C. totally?

Dave Eagan He ia a distrabution mgr. And what he's doin in Calli no clue . He said he's on vacation

Who is this guy (Dave)from Davenport Iowa? Whats his story? Come on Iowa partners tell us the truth. Can this guy do the job or did he come out here so they could mop up Iowa?

Well, to the "Soon to be Ex Supplier" & others who make comments about IBC's hard working sales people. My husband and the other people here in NLR, AR, were alone on the shelves during last weeks ice storm. They brought out bread & cake early and often to have product on otherwise empty shelves. Where was Flowers and Sara Lee???...at home on their posteriors I guess. Don't tell the families of these warriors for the company about any lack or weakness in the forces.

WELL, HERE WE GO AGAIN. THE SHIPPING BOOTH WILL BE EMPTY ONCE MORE. DEB LASTED THE LONGEST SCINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. OH YEH, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE HAVING ON ORGASM OVER HER LEAVING. YOU BETTER MAKE IT A GOOD AND A LONG LASTING ONE. YOU COULD BE IN FOR A SURPRISE. AND FOR THOSE OF YOU KISSING UP TO JOE M. YOU BETTER WATCH OUT. HE'LL BE WATCHING YOU. THEY SENT IN HIM SOME REINFORCEMENTS FROM IOWA. (haha) SO REMEMBER, WHEN THEY FILL THAT SPOT. IT REALLY WILL BE THE BLIND LEADING THE BLIND. SO GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL. BALL LICKERS ALSO, YOU'RE NEXT. ( ball lickers-I hope you chew tobacco. thats a good place for your spit )

Attention all BC&TGM Members --- We are being sold out by the President of the International Union - Frank Hurt and his butt boy Bob Oakley. They are meeting behind closed doors with Alvarez and his bunch of thugs. if this group has its way we all will be working like slaves agian - no increase in wages, no healthcare, no pension, next we will be calling them master as in yesum master. This is what we get for paying our dues to these crooks from the north. From a southern boy kiss my grits you damm yankee.

Sorry folks, the time has come for me to lay low for a while. The fire is too hot here in Kansas City. Keep your heads up, but know what is coming down the pipe. Will report back when I get more information.

to anon from emporia: the "Z" stands for Zinger, what else...

Say it wit me DEEEZZ LIDS DEEZZ PIECES

costco joe what a joke the compay dog. Company needs to put the old dog asleep before shipping goes to hell. Costco joe probaly has the cleanest nuts out in shipping you several people licking his nuts in shipping!

Henderson NOT being sold. Some a$$ posted a copy of a news page and added bull$hit about Henderson being sold. Check the link I posted for the real story with out the added phoney closing added to it.

FROM THE BAKERY PIPELINE (Bakery Production & Marketing Newsletter, February 17, 2006) by Josh Sosland It would hardly be news to observe the steady erosion in the place held by regional baking companies within the industry. For decades, the acquisition of smaller baking companies has been a staple in the strategic diet of the nation?s largest multi-plant chains. Still, it was difficult not to feel a twinge of discomfort recently in reaction to news that Butter-Krust Baking Co. and Derst Baking Co. would be acquired by Sara Lee and Flowers Foods, respectively. Both of the acquired companies and their family executives long have been fixtures in baking. Still, the specific deals were hardly surprising. Sara Lee has stated it is anxious to accelerate its geographic expansion. The Northeast represents the company?s largest geographic hole, and Butter-Krust clearly was an appealing candidate to begin filling-in. Similarly, Flowers has said it needs additional capacity to keep up with demand, and the acquisition of Derst, an independent southern baking company, is consistent with Flowers? historic pattern of growing, often one plant at a time. With the increasing emergence of powerful brands on the bread aisle and the continuing effects of retailer consolidation, it?s likely these transactions won?t be the last. While several vibrant independent bakers continue to operate, perhaps the strongest influence slowing down the acquisition of independents is that so few such companies remain to be acquired. Flowers is in the final stages of acquiring Interstate Brands Bakery in Henderson Nv. and Las Angeles bakery deal should be completed by Apr.1,2006. This last sentence is fake,it was added on there. By the way dumbass, It's Los Angeles, not las, you moron!

Cooper Hilteroff is doing just as good as the other Chiefs. So why do you reward him?

To the Razz Wannabee: Whiskey man don't you know that you are drivin' me insane The liquor you give stems your will to live and gets right to my brain Don't you know you're driving me insane You're tryin' to find your way through life You're tryin' to get some new direction Takes another drink or two, things look better , and maybe you will find a rel job... Takes another look around, you're not goin' anywhere You've realized you're gettin' old and no one seems to care You're tryin' to find your way again THERE IS ONLY ONE RAZZ!!!!

Hey bhbbc: Anon from Emporia needs to know what Z stands for.LOL

Another Job filled today? The one qualified for the job didn't apply and the second best person was making more money then the company wanted to offer. So now we are interviewing the third, fourth and fifth choices. All the good ones or most qualified are getting away. IBC is settling for the bottom of the barrel. Heaven help us.

Sucks been off a couple weeks-wish they could of got rid of the riff raffs and keep hard working employees ,the guys who make this company what it once was

Check out this link for bakery news with out the bull added in about the sale of Henderson http://www.bakingbusiness.com/Archives/current_article.asp?ArticleID=78009&PF=print

I just wanted to say hello to "In the Know". Your Mexico stories really get everyone going. I'm afraid, however, that you're getting your kicks out of something that causes anguish to IBC employees and their families. Find another outlet for your frustrations.

ibc is the top companny to work for. just ask your other bread people,they wish they could work for us.

THANKS FOR THE HELP I WILL START A SUPPORT GROUP TODAY IT SHALL START WE WILL CALL IT THE LETS DRINK BEER SUPPORT GROUP I WILL NOT BE A DUMBASS WRITER I WILL BE A CLOWN AND DRINK BEER IMPORT ONLY

PLEASE NO MORE DREAD AHEAD-PLEASE ,OH GREAT ONE,NO MORE DREAD AHEAD,MAYBE i SHOULD BECOME A DUMBASS WRITER FOR THE PAPER

please tell me,please tell me,oh please tell me Who is another wicked bitch I mean witch-

IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!! TIME TO CELEBRATE PEOPLE.. THE WICKED WITCH IS GONE, THE WICKED WITCH IS GONE....

I.B.C. song of the day: You know where I come from FagYou know what I feel fag You're Yul Brenner Westworld Reporting from the fag field. I threw it into reverse,it tasted good Made a motion to repeal. You kicked my butt from under me, And tried to take contro. I told you I wanted it all But everyone is humming a song That I don't understand. Fag,Fag,Fag me Now I know that the sun has shined on my side of fag street. The basket of America, the weevils and the wheat. The milk and honeyed congregation, scrubbed and apple-cheeked and fagged me Salute the fags from the rattle jewelry seats. Mythology's seductive and it turned a trick on me you fagger That I have just begun to understand. I told you I wanted to be wrong, But everyone is humming a song That I understand. FAGGERS The rodeo is staged, gold circle goat-ropers and FAGS. A BUTT HOLE in the third act, tie 'em up and burn 'em down. We're armed to the teeth, born a little FAG Blue-plate special analysts, cells and FAGS We can't approach the FAGS 'cause they seem a little peeved And speak a language we don't understand.BUT ME I told you I wanted to be A FAG But everyone is humming a song That I understand.FAGGERS [Prop up The FAG Man, we're primed for victory, God gave us the upper hand, there's honor among FAGS Temper it with arrogance, a dash of sad conceit. The top's down on theFAG-Bird, we're the children of the FAGS Storm into the boardroom of the conquering elite. Did you recognize the FAGman who is shouting in the streets? Destroy the things that I don't understand Destroy the things that I don't understand FAG ME --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Whole grains defined in guidelines FDA seeks to help consumers, but questions remain ---- By Kristen Gerencher, MarketWatch Last Update: 8:06 PM ET Feb 20, 2006 FDA is loking into "Whole Grain Labeling" and two of the three companies invovled are bankrupt - IBC & American Italian Pasta Company - both based in Kansas City and both are being currenlty ran by Alvarez & Marsal. Does the FDA really want these two firms involved since they have a track record of lieing to the public and investors.

Kafoure is pissed off this morning could hear him screaming at several people this morning - he personnally wants to hang the insider who keeps leaking information out of the board room. Some top idiot even stated out load that maybe the room is bugged - Kafoure almost had this idiot for breakfast. They all know it is a person close to the information they just do not have any clues on who it really is - but they are looking. Who ever you are keep it up so that the little guy has some information.

If the idiots in HR (D Whitesel or H Richards) would wake up and actually talk with the people who have already left our pc, then you would see what an idiot smith really is. I have talked with several employees, supervisors and management personnel who have left the SCPC and every one of them stated their reason was Charlie Smith. They even told me that during their Exit Interviews that Dan Whitesel would not allow them to state that fact because he would not put in the final copy of the interview. One of our managers said he knew that the hotline was called several times on smith but since the division and general offices just turned their backs on the truth this person could no longer work for this company, which is very sad for this person who had alomst 2 decades with IBC. The person has moved on in their life and has not even looked back, except to warn a few close friends to watch their backs and to get out before their world comes crashing down. I personally am taking the advice and looking several offers pending just trying to find the perfect fit for me and my family. As my freind put it - Several of the past & current Exec's should be lined up and shot for what they have done to this fine company and to the hard working people who made it that way. - You all know who you are someday we will have our justice.

Smith is so arrogant that he actually hopes this Mexico thing is real - he has already stated that he thinks he will be the one they choose to run the plant, based on the fact that our PC is making money and get the grunts to do the work. Will someone please check what this idiot is doing to OUR PC (yes charlie I said our PC - not your pc - you little weasle) and get rid of this crook. Oh Charlie - we see the crap you are running through the accounts for quote "Customer Relatons" - B.S. none of this is for the customers - it is either diverted to your office/home of your way of rewarding the a$$ kissers for bending over for you.

What the General Office needs to do is fire Charles Smith - he could have been your leak - at least it sounds good when you fire his a$$ - you know any excuse is a good reason or claim him to be the escape goat, either way just FIRE this IDIOT.

Anyone that buys cake from mexico has to have rocks in there head with there enviromental record are cockroaches filling or topping,is this what nafta brings us??????????

I saw that the rocky mount plant has a lot of openings and why are the maintance guys leaving did you not get two of our best from charlotte, I also would like to know if any of the supervisors that left were ol suck -up Larry, my best friend Ray and mr I got an attatude MARK. they all said that they could and were going to change that plant around and make it IBC'S best plant but if they work like they did in charlotte the only one that did any thing was RAY. I miss these ol boy's but going to valdees and working with the competor was the best thing that could of happen to me. I'am glad I did not go to R.M. we have no problems here a breakdown about once every 2weeks and I only work 8 hours a day and with each line having 4 shifts we work 24-7 but we get 2 days off back to back.and we can use at least 3 more supervisors and the pay is great .

I.B.C. song of the day: You know where I come from You know what I feel You're Yul Brenner Westworld Reporting from the field. I threw it into reverse, Made a motion to repeal. You kicked my legs from under me, And tried to take the wheel. I told you I wanted to be wrong, But everyone is humming a song That I don't understand. Now I know that the sun has shined on my side of the street. The basket of America, the weevils and the wheat. The milk and honeyed congregation, scrubbed and apple-cheeked Salute Apollo 13 from the rattle jewelry seats. Mythology's seductive and it turned a trick on me That I have just begun to understand. I told you I wanted to be wrong, But everyone is humming a song That I don't understand. The rodeo is staged, gold circle goat-ropers and clowns. A rumble in the third act, tie 'em up and burn 'em down. We're armed to the teeth, born a little breech; Blue-plate special analysts, cells and SUV's We can't approach the Allies 'cause they seem a little peeved And speak a language we don't understand. I told you I wanted to be wrong But everyone is humming a song That I don't understand. [Prop up The Omega Man, we're primed for victory, God gave us the upper hand, there's honor among thieves. Temper it with arrogance, a dash of sad conceit. The top's down on the T-Bird, we're the children of the free] Storm into the boardroom of the conquering elite. Did you recognize the madman who is shouting in the streets? Destroy the things that I don't understand Destroy the things that I don't understand

To bhbbc: I Wonder if this "Mexico", story is true! Tony "The Tiger", is really going to shove it up everyone's _ss!!! I do know one thing , if I.B.C. really is going to do this , then it will be funny to see it enacted. Our mgt. is the laughing stock of the baking industry.They will do it on the cheap , like they always do. And it will fail miserably like ESL. The same people are in charge, and the end result will be the same.

PLEASE provide more auction information. The auction is not listed with the county or any other place. How do you know of it? Thank you. "This is fact: The lakewood bakery is up for auction on the 15th of March.I dont know if this is going to be at lakewood facility or not, but it will be auctioned on the 15th."

GET REAL! I bet if we were to check the IP addresses of G/O in the "know" and IBC Middle Mgmt. It would turn out to be the same idiot.

Wow, are the boys PISSED OFF! Someone leaked their plans and they were absolutely outraged by the conduct of one of their most trusted. Someone's head is going to roll over this one. Word has it, they are going to speed up the process now and move even quicker now that word is out over the moving of operations to Mexico and them going on the private jet to Mexico. I wouldn't want to be the person who spilled the flour on this one! Folks if you are planning on staying, start filling out the unemployment forms NOW! They are consulting their lawyers and determining the fastest way to exit the situation now that the word is on the streets! GOOD LUCK current IBC employees!

telecommuting n : employment at home while communicating with the workplace by phone or fax or modem [syn: teleworking AMAZINGLY BEWILDERING CRAMER YOUR ON DECK ARE YOU TAKING NOTES???????????

Our Chief Eng gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "telecommuting"...................

This is fact: The lakewood bakery is up for auction on the 15th of March.I dont know if this is going to be at lakewood facility or not, but it will be auctioned on the 15th.

we agree with the post from anon in lakewood. the best thing for all to do now is to get out before they can your ass. we got out and it feels reeeaaal good. i.b.c. will stick it to you good. if you don't bend over, they will bend you over, but you're getting fucked one way or the other..

to anon in lakewood who needs a job. All i know is that the equipment is still in there .i have another job. Starting next week. IBC was an experience in futility...glad its over, and i feel they did me a favor... All you people now working for IBC need to get the hell out NOW...stick it to them before they stick it to you....and they will.. The moron who proclaimed the move to Mexico was a done deal is indicative of the treasonous and greedy attitude of educated idiots in charge of corporate america. Henry Ford had it right, and treated his workers well and was rewarded. But these guys today who think busting unions and destroying AMERICAN families is somehow a good thing will have it all come down on them. If a typical american family is only making 20-30 grand a year, who in the hell is going to buy the houses and cars and 3 bucks a loaf of bread?...time to rise up people...trust me on this. good luck to all...

Been out of work since closing. Heard another bakery buying Lakewood. Is this true? Can anyone give me some real, truthful information. Need job for my wife and kids. Will apply if positions available. Any credible information helpful.

Listen carefully - I think I hear the fat accounting ladies singing now or is that just Taps being played in the background - we are all screwed by Tony and his bunch of thugs

To who ever asked about taking a job in Springfield, here's your answer. If you want to work for a Company that could close the doors at anytime, then join the plant. The only thing that has kept that bakery open so far is the Baker's Inn. Our Plant Manager runs both Springfield and Tulsa and he is spending more and more time here and is looking for a new home here. So what does that tell you - stay where you are at if you can stand it or look for another job somewhere else. Just in case routes sales is no safer - CSmith who is the VP of our Profit Center does not like either of the two Sales Managers (Godwin, Sprinfield or Sample, Tulsa), so if it is up to Smith they will be gone and there is no telling what you will have then. Best of Luck to ya brother

It's over folks... STL is closing soon. The rest of IBC will be methodically shuttered. All operations moving south of the border. They will freeze product for WalMart for their overwrap program. They will make most of the private label for them too... Staying with IBC is the most insane thing a person could do. The Big Boys are heading to Mexico on the Alvarez coporate jet on weekends. This is so there will be no questions asked of them. This is factual as I have first-hand knowledge of the entire process. The shift has been discussed behind closed doors at the BK hearings and has the approval of the legal system. Overhead flight survey done on Emporia Bakery this weekend for Goodyear. Plane refueled at Emporia Municipal around 1:30pm Saturday.. Check the records out there. Fleet will be cut down by 45% to begin with and then another 10% the following year. ABSOLUTELY NO UNION WILL BE RETAINED! Per Alvarez and the Boys. What will this do to the Emporia economy? STL can handle the shutdown, but Emporia--NO! If you own a home in Emporia and want to sell it, DO IT NOW! There will be a glut like never before when the bakery shuts down. Thanks to everyone for your hard work. I am resigning in two weeks, so that will be my final suprise to these guys. Better get out while th getting is good. Best wishes all... I'm getting a jump on the job market NOW!

Just remeber that Grauel's Dad and Hobbs worked together somewhere in Illinois as well. Just takeing care of the family, for we know maybe John is Rich's bastard son.

Why would anyone want a job with a company that is sinking? Having to work holidays,overtime,never a thankyou,goofy extended hours,no family lifestyle at all and working weekends till you drop. No job can be worst than this. Do you live for yourself and your family or live for the job? The choice is yours.

there is life after ibc...seen it and i am doing it. after working for 10 yrs and 70+ hours wkly as mgmt, i now work 45 hrs and make more. i ask myself why, why did i sell out my family for so long.............and for what?

There is life after IBC. The smart will leave for a new start on life and the dumb will stay and wait for the end. Most of the smart has left. Time is running out.

To answer the question on John Graul and how he got his wife. Its the same way he landed his new position. R. Hobbs who happens to be his Godfather bought her on the internet as a mail in bride for John. Rich is about ready to retire to the south east and had gave John his new position in the south east so they can be close.

Careful guys - attacking one of the management sh**heads is one thing (which I agree we all should do), but leave the wife and kids out of the attacks - we do have an unwritten code about this.

Glendale is already in mexico tupid!!!!

To Jacksonville, FL. Watch your back - if grauel figures who you are he will fire you or worse sit on you. Now for his wife - your right we never figured that one out either. The boy must be loaded or she is using him to get her green card - because we sure in the hell know it aint his looks or the sex - if he was to roll over she would be gone, such a pretty little mexican.

This Mexico connection explains alot to all of us in Jax, now we understand why the new PC Manaufacturing Director - J Grauel is never here. And the real reason behind his trips to Mexico and all of these expense reports - he was telling everyone they were trying to expand the markets. We can see how he would be a choice to run it - he is already married to a mexican wetback - how in the hell he landed the hottie we can not explain - he is just one fat pig but he does throw around money like it is water. Nice cars, fancy clothes do not hide the fact that he is still just a fat and a pig who needs a tan. Talk about one pale whiteboy. Hey Johnny we would tell you hit the beach - but we are afraid someone would try to roll you back in the ocean thinking you were a beached whale.

St. Louis the walk thru was to serve as the final straw, Tony wanted to see the plant before he authorized it to be shut down. Why do you think Randy Wiebler took the PC Job - it was not for the money as much just to have a job. He was told back in October to take the job by Rich Hobbs and John Grauel or Randy would be out of job then. 60 day warn notices being typed up now. Problem is some people do not want to give the notices (CSmith/DWhitesel), they would rather pay you off and close the bakery within 24 hours. Reason is that these two are afraid of the problems you would create in production during the 60 day period. Also if they do this way no one could file work comp claims. You have been warned. No more bread or cake in St. Louis. Property is being sold will be used for buses .

Im really sick to death of looking at this pic! <--------------------------------------------------

Tonys people strolled thru our plant last week.....Havent heard a thing....guess no news is good news huh?

Can Wonder Bread Rise Again? Turnaround artists Bryan Marsal and Tony Alvarez aim to fix Interstate Bakeries Dressed in a rumpled shirt and working on three hours of sleep, Antonio C. "Tony" Alvarez II is in overdrive. On Sept. 22, he was appointed CEO of bankrupt Interstate Bakeries Corp. (IBC ), famous for such iconic brands as Wonder bread and Twinkies. Since then, Alvarez, 56 -- who is co-chief executive of one of the country's biggest turnaround firms, Alvarez & Marsal LLC -- has been at Interstate's Kansas City (Mo.) headquarters, parsing financial statements and pep-talking workers in a bid to save the company. ADVERTISEMENT Back in A&M's Manhattan headquarters, his partner, Bryan P. Marsal, is resting. He's fresh off a stint as chief restructuring officer at HealthSouth Corp. (HLSH.PK ), the embattled Birmingham (Ala.)-based rehabilitation hospital chain that nearly sank into Chapter 11 last year after former CEO Richard M. Scrushy allegedly inflated earnings by $2.7 billion. (Scrushy is contesting the charges.) Marsal, 53, spent 15 months rebuilding HealthSouth. He slashed 250 jobs. Then he sold assets such as Doctors Hospital in Coral Gables, Fla. -- not to mention 10 planes and one helicopter from Scrushy's fleet -- helping to pay down $3.3 billion in debt. As a result, HealthSouth is expected to generate $650 million in cash this year. Alvarez intends to work the same magic on Interstate as his partner did on HealthSouth. "We come to companies at their worst moments in life, and we save them," says Alvarez. Cocky and intense, Alvarez and Marsal have become Corporate America's favorite repairmen. The tag team's 21-year-old firm has helped salvage dozens of sinking companies, from watchmaker Timex Corp. to drugstore chain Phar-Mor Inc. Their recipe, they say, is simple: Relentlessly cut costs, hoard cash, and constantly communicate the minutest of financial details and restructuring plans to creditors, so as to avoid any backlash. Most important, they make quick and decisive decisions to resolve problems that company executives might waffle over for months -- a brash approach that has sometimes gotten them into trouble. UNAPPETIZING RECIPE Interstate could be one of A&M's biggest challenges. The nation's largest wholesale bakery refused to cut its overhead and therefore was unable to offer bargain-basement prices that would have allowed it to push more aggressively into mass-market channels such as Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (WMT ). It also botched a plan to reformulate its Hostess cupcakes and Ding Dongs so that they would have a longer shelf life. They turned out doughy and unappetizing. By his first day on the job, Alvarez had helped persuade J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. (JPM ) to pony up $200 million in new financing to keep Interstate's ovens running. Interstate filed for bankruptcy protection the same day, weighed down in part by $600 million in debt. Now Alvarez is planning to slash labor and production costs, while boosting distribution to Wal-Mart and other discount retailers. The markets are confident so far: $100 million of Interstate bonds issued in August are still worth 85 cents on the dollar -- solid, for a distressed company. "We like the approach he is taking," says Leo Benatar, a former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta and Interstate director. "It isn't just total liquidation." While Alvarez and Marsal have won plaudits from corporate boards, they also have stirred up controversy. Competitors, especially, allege that A&M is prone to self-dealing, pointing to examples such as a deal with Enron Corp.'s accounting firm, Arthur Andersen. While Marsal was dismantling Andersen, A&M hired six of its former turnaround specialists. Although the new hires weren't involved in the Enron scandal, critics slammed A&M for helping itself to the assets of a bankrupt client, putting A&M's interests ahead of those of creditors and shareholders. Marsal contends that A&M bought out the employees' contracts with the blessing of Andersen's board. PLAYING TOUGH It wasn't the first time the partners were accused of being greedy. In 1996, Marsal crafted a plan for Vestar Capital Partners, a New York investment firm, to buy bankrupt apparel maker Bidermann Industries USA Inc. without a public auction. Under the deal, Marsal, already Bidermann's CEO, would have kept the top job for three years, and A&M would have received an equity stake. The court disapproved. "Mr. Marsal has abandoned the debtors' interest in order to advance his own personal wealth," wrote Tina L. Bozman, chief judge of the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in the Southern District of New York. The slap led Alvarez and Marsal to institute a rule barring the firm from investing in client companies or funds that might seek to buy those companies. Still, A&M can play tough with clients and their creditors. Marsal and HealthSouth execs sued Michael J. Embler, a distressed debt investor with Franklin Mutual Advisers LLC,

Who is this idiot Razz? Send him back to Mexico City.

to the dirtbag who posted nagatively about Razz: this site would not be what it is without posters like Razz, Niteshade, D, Cry me a river, TTK, Doopie and others. if you have no clue, that's fine but know what you're saying before you say it. and spell it right...

Henderson is the Hog Head still there? Considering a tranfer from 27 but not if Jumbo John is there........................