Re Dave Hart. If you're working for a profitable company, what the hell are you doing here? Furthermore, why don't you take these other pieces of shit with you? They will need a job when the smoke clears

I won't waste any more of my time on a prick like you.

Too many big words for you punk??You can't understand what you wrote??Scroll down and read your own trash. Your the babbling fool.

Too many big words for you punk??You can't understand what you wrote??Scroll down and read your own trash. You the babbling fool.

Babbling?? You're a foolish person punk. You double talking fool.

Oh and your last comment really shows your stupidity. Anyone that read this, go back and read JJ's comments and the think about what he puts in his last post. ""Arrogance is a sign of stupidity and nobody like someone who thinks he's better than eveyone else"...Do you believe list piss-ant??

shocked by the stupidity Your just Babbling now . Damn and you were starting to make progress. You Lost on your last post give it up. I guess I am done with you after all.

Hey JJ.......Here's the first comment I read of yours........"Hey Booneheadville, Your comment “Only a dipshit who understands nothing about bnkruptcy would concern themselves with the price of stock of a company preparing to emerge” I would like to ad, OR a company preparing themselves to close the doors. I would like to use Global crossing as a prime example I could go but you would not understand. Makes me happy I hit a tender spot with you though. I gave one hundred percent and then some every day , Never called in sick in fifteen years . I was laid off in Oct. No severance ect . I can laugh and crack jokes about this piece of shit company all I want. I have earned that rite. And they are so funny you must admit. I don’t need I.B.C . And we don’t need you spreading your Bullshit! " .............And you're trying to tell me if I don't like what I read go somewhere else.You're just a hypoctite, punk, wuss, that probably doesn't even work. Your most likely a lazy idiot. know it all bum that wines just because you got extra bread added to your route because didn't know how to order yourself. You wanna I need to learn some humility. You jackass! 15 years in this business? Right! You're not even close to noble status. Guys like you are just full of it. JJ STinky-ass good name it fits. Why don't you crawl back under the rock you came from and shut up. You the most ignorant, disrespectful, stupid, poor excuse for human being I've ran across in a while. Though you think you quite witty with your words, you sound like a complete dumb pre-schooler. Grow up and be a man.I dare say that if you stood two feet from me you'd think twice before you ever made to me the kind of comments you've to some of these folks here on this site. You're a coward and a meance. A punk! If anyone on this site read your comment from start to finish they'd realized how ignorant you really are.You even admitted to getting pleasure popping in and out of this web-site for the sole purpose of causing strife.So hypocrite, go back and read your own comments and see just how stupid you really are. Telling others that if they don't like what they read then go somewhere else. That's how you started you first post hypocrite. Bashing someone who made thier opinion known and then you unloaded on them, critisized and humiliated them and then try to tell me to learn some humility? You're just a smart-mouth punk that hides behind a keyboard getting your jollies on cursing and spreading trash on this site. You're a fool!!!You claim you've earned the right? I've been with this company 19 years & called in a few times and damned proud of it. At least I used my benefits. You say you don't need IBC?? Then what are you even on this web-site for? To start trouble! Punk! I live in the real world boy! 15 years my ass......Just like your somebody. You're nobody Punk. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

IBC management is a joke if you are in management at IBC and you say you have never sucked a dick you are a liar so bend over and shut up

See Watching & Laughing that is your issue you are too busy watching everyone else!! Get too work or at least have the balls to post your own name. And for the record, I quit. Jernigan never fired me, see I took the opportunity for what it was. I was a shipping manager at a bankrupt company and now I am the shipping manager at a profitable company. Use your cranium for other than hunting and pecking on the keyboard so if your that unhappy go get a new job!!!!

I am your competitor, and it's a shame watching your downward spiral. All I can do is comment on what I see in Detroit. Your competitors have taken price increases, and your management continues to LOWBALL your product. WONDER BREAD is the whore of our market, and is killing off their own gross profit. Your managers are knocking down volume, for volume sake. Your turn around in Detroit would only need to include rasing your FLP to match competitors. I watch your Route Sale people struggle, and wish them no ill will. My management is no smarter, we have issues you could not imagine. BUT WE MAKE GROSS PROFIT!! Because of trade regulations, I can not speak to any of your RSR's or mangement about this. But come on guys, running 10 for 10 on premium products, and .99 cent sales.....and pay PA money on top of it?? I applaude agressive-I shake my head at STUPID. We were selling bread for .99 cents in the 80's, before wheat and fuel shot to the new highs? How many other markets are in the same shape as Detroit? Your competitors have been waiting for you to follow our pricing for the last 4 years. Again, I have been out on the streets, and in the hall with you guys. I hope nothing but the best for you, and loved ones. Your Union is not the issue, it's your mangement. God Bless

To: Ryan Reese, Vern Merriot & Art Conrad; You pieces of dog shit will continue to fill your pockets because, like the rest of us, you know that Jeff doesn't give a f*ck. As long as he continues to fudge the numbers to look good, Rick won't question it. As long as it looks good on paper and they can make the numbers match, it will continue to be Status Quo. This is the new reality at IBC, even if the place is running like shit, it will not be questioned if the numbers are “good”.

Attn. Jeff Jernigan & Rick Schoenberg: We want to thankyou for allowing us to ripoff this company for thousands of dollars. Its been a wonderful year. Word has it that you are looking into this issue, please don't look to close. We really want to break 2007's record with a larger income. We can't make it without your support. You see, we have huge bills to pay. High house payment, long commute and a couple of new Jeeps.In closing, we want to wish you all a happy new year and wait till you see what we do this next year(2008)LOL

Whoa. Wait up a minute there. This site was supposed to be a think tank site? A solve the problems of the world site? LOL. What happen to a place to let off steam, to say exactly how you felt about double dealing, no intergrity mgmt. I would rather have someone vent here on this site than walk thru the no gun signs and start spraying bullets around the plant. Wouldn't you? You are ignorant if you say that could never happen. You see and hear about people walking thru restraining orders all the time. Think about it. This site wouldn't be here if members of management had shown themselves to have some substance, character and intergrity and treated the employees under them with dignity and respect. What was the purpose of management? To direct the work flow in the most efficient matter. What happen to the management? Why was there lawsuits flying? Who lost their way and forgot the company's mission statement? Who became "big"feeling bullies? And who are teflon coated letting the facts around them slide into a mess?

Yep that’s the real DJ he mentioned spelling .

A helping hand/////////// You are correct .I did refuse to continue a battle of wits with a un-armed man. Glad you finely came into some self Realization .Maybe there is some hope for you yet? Some advise. You toss around waste management like it is something to be ashamed of. I know a dude who drives a garbage truck. He’s paid well, Good benefits and retirement. Week ends off . Honest days work. You might want to work on your humility and arrogance problem now that you are starting to becoming aware. Remember arrogance is a sign of stupidity. And people don’t like a man who is stupid and thinks he’s better than everyone else. Good luck on your internal journey .

I ain't been here in a while.witch one of you dorks think they are mister cool of this web page now.Out off all the years I have been coming to this site u guys didn't solve or help anybody that asked for it.To have this web page an not to have any good come out of it is a shame.O u miss spelled this u missed spelled that.What a waste!!!!!!!!!!!

hey steve nobody knows but we will all find out in a months time

Good to see Fish and his clones using my ID to pass as knowledgable people. Keep trying. Yeah. we're stuck in Glendale, but at least these guys know how to spell each others names. Oh, and how are things in Chatsworth? Are you still trying to get your brother Teamsters fired? There's only one bigger RAT in the company. I wonder if Jung knows you're on his side.

Good to see Fish and his clones using my ID to pass as knowledgable people. Keep trying. Yeah. we're stuck in Glendale, but at least these guys know how to spell each others names. Oh, and how are things in Chatsworth? Are you still trying to get your brother Teamsters fired? There's only one bigger RAT in the company. I wonder if Jung knows you're on his side.

does anyone realy know what's going on with this company?

THANKS! TELL YOUR SECRETARY I SAID HI!

dirty, your last post again demontrates a superb show of manner and intellect.

To anonymous in Jamaica, look who's talking. If you are so good, why are stuck with a sinking company or with a job that requires so little education? You better answer your own question? Dumb shit! Hey forbes,,,,get off this site and start looking for a job!

Finally Happy- I quit about one and a half years ago (after 20 yrs. with IBC) and it was the best move that I have ever made. Good Luck!

You really ought to look at Sara Lee's hierarchy. The zone and regional sales people are all ex frito lay people. Jung is an ex frito lay man. it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out Sara lee wants us. At least here in the midwest it would be a good thing. Sara Lee has a fine name, a fine product, and are smart enugh to let their own people run it. If Sara Lee buys us.... Jung, Angst, Stanley Snyder, Don Doerr all the rest of the old WONDER BREAD assholes who bankrupted us are going to be out of jobs. Its about damn time.

dirty, I need an education? look who's talking. If you are so good, why are stuck with a sinking company or with a job that requires so little education and your boss is always watching you. and this is the best of all. If you are so good, why do you need unions to give job security and protect your income like a little boy who has not grown up and needs to depend on his mother?

dirty, nothing constructive to say besides picking on other's proficiency at the english language. even if my profiency in english is not as good as yours, I still have better manner than you do. even your name sounds trashy. It does even sound funny. I guess coming up with a more intelligent name is too much for you. btw, if i write to address to people like you who I look down upon, why should I even care about grammar? oh well, how much one can expect from someone with name like that.

To anonymous in Jamaica, You need a education. Where did you go to school? Get your money back!

To anonymous, Please stop your bullshit! Your spelling is poor, and grammar is shit! you need a secretary!!!!!

since yucaipa does not have a business plan to turn this company around and bimbo is no long available to run this company, it is totally possible that yucaipa might bid for ibc based on jung's plan to compete with other competing proposals. After all, gaining concessions is only a temporary solution; they cannot rely on current defunct business model forever. if that happens, it will be very interesting indeed. yucaipa, jung and teamsters join forces and compete against hedge funds and competitors who want to implement owner/operator model.

It took me almost a year but I start a new job Wed. If you look while you are still employed you can choose a better job. If you wait it will be harder to find a job you will enjoy. Maybe everything will turn out ok at IBC, I truly hope so but it is a gamble. One thing is almost certain, your time and senority will mean almost nothing. Benefits will go down drastically. And when the new regime, whomever that might be, takes over, just think how you will be treated then. Especially if Jung retains control which I doubt. Good luck and I wish you guys and gals a prosperous and joyful new year. God Bless you all.

maybe u guys don't get it there is no jung plan for judge to approve they can only get the 400 mill from bank if teamsters agree to go from 62500 to 85000 down to 38000to 60000 a year pay cut so they can blow that 400 mill that's all they know how to do is blow money that's a fact no money on debts if company was serious about making money they would first start by fireing all the fat cats who do nothing if workers seen that they would give more consessions for a co looking to move forward they still don't get it same ole people steering ship same ole same ol I thought they were going to make exerybody accountable for there actions u see that I don't same old thing same old same old

maybe u guys don't get it there is no jung plan for judge to approve they can only get the 400 mill from bank if teamsters agree to go from 62500 to 85000 down to 38000to 60000 a year pay cut so they can blow that 400 mill that's all they know how to do is blow money that's a fact no money on debts if company was serious about making money they would first start by fireing all the fat cats who do nothing if workers seen that they would give more consessions for a co looking to move forward they still don't get it same ole people steering ship same ole same ol I thought they were going to make exerybody accountable for there actions u see that I don't same old thing same old same old

JJ is refuse to continue this battle of wits with an un-armed man. Waste Manangement dude...Go for it. Trash man.

In BK as in life,MONEY talks, BS walks.Sounds simple and it is.I don't care if the judge is Jung's brother.The know-it- alls can post all their ideas regarding the judges opinions.Are you going to go with the guy with the cash or the guy with the promises? Very simple,it's not that complicated.Regarding the guy with the owner-operator idea.That's like putting earrings on a pig.This company has deeper problems than that.You think the bakers or the rsr's put this company under? Get real.

Name: B.H.B.B.C. Date: 2007-12-15 Location: Location:Hodgkins, IL Comment: KANSAS CITY — Responding to a preliminary indication of interest from Yucaipa Companies, L.L.C., and The International Brotherhood of Teamsters, Kansas City-based Interstate Bakeries Corp. on Friday said the document incorporates some of the terms of the Plan of Reorganization filed by I.B.C. on Nov. 5 but "is not a qualified bid under the terms of the alternate proposal procedures approved by the Bankruptcy Court in November." While the document states Yucaipa and the Teamsters will "provide creditors with aggregate consideration based on an enterprise value of $580 million," I.B.C. said it does not specify how much will be distributed to unsecured creditors, does not include any business plan, does not provide any details on how a Yucaipa business plan would be financed, or include any financing commitments, and does not describe the terms and concessions the Teamsters will provide to the reorganized company, or any indication that any agreement has been reached with any of the other unions. "We are pleased that Yucaipa and the Teamsters continue to express interest in the company’s emergence from Chapter 11," said Craig Jung, chief executive officer at I.B.C. "At the same time, we are surprised and disappointed at the lack of substance in their submission. Our goal in the Chapter 11 process is to maximize value for I.B.C.’s constituents. We look forward to resolving the many deficiencies in their current document, in order to determine whether they might be able to provide better value to constituents than under the company’s current plan." In the absence of a more definitive and complete proposal from the groups, I.B.C. said it would not comment further on the document Yucaipa and the Teamsters submitted Dec. 13. On Dec. 13, I.B.C. was notified by the U.S. affiliate of Grupo Bimbo, S.A. de C.V., a Mexico City-based baking company, of the latter’s intent to pull out of the Yucaipa/Teamsters bid. "Although we are disappointed that Grupo Bimbo chose not to participate, we deeply appreciate and respect the professionalism that Grupo Bimbo’s executives and advisors demonstrated during their due diligence review," Mr. Jung said. As of Dec. 14, I.B.C. had an enterprise value of $492.9 million. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////OK, you asshat, read very slowly and CAREFULLY the bolded part of this srticle. Speaks volumes about WHY the Teamsters are now scrambling. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////Now, SLOWLY READ this part, and TRY to understand WHAT Judge Venters is SAYING: ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Name: Anonymous Date: 2007-12-23 Location: Location:Boonville, MO Comment: “If Yucaipa and the IBT fail to submit a meaningful or valid proposal, and if the Court approves the Debtors’ disclosure statement at the end of January – AS IT IS INCLINED TO DO – perhaps the Debtors and the IBT will be able to work out their differences.” This is taken right from the BK Judge's most recent ruling...read CAREFULLY and see if you can UNDERSTAND what he is saying, especially with the CAPITALIZED portion. Sounds to me like the almighty Teamsters have a significant uphill battle against them. Gee...there's that term again....SIGNIFICANT...lie the "concessions" Volpe says employees will have to give up in order to work under Yucaipa's "plan". But wait a minute....Yucaipa doesn't HAVE a plan. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////OK< Genius, figureit out yet???????

Atten: Jeff Jernigan & Rick Schoenberg. I ment to include you. Look at the previous post. I think you have a problem with the shipping managers also.

Shipping managers, I have a question for you. Do you 2 have a clue as to whats happening under you nose? Check it out: 1:00am Ryan comes to work and the next thing there are 5 foremen upstairs laughing it up. What the hell are there 5 foremen here at the same time? Okay, 2 are transport and 3 are shipping, but you still don't need that many foremen here at the same time. You better do something about this crap or you will end up with Dave Hart. One last thing. Ryan Reese, Vernon Merriott and Art Conrad are the biggest jokes for a foreman this company has. Check it out. Last week they all got 70 to 80 hours each and the rack counts are at an all time low. How do you justify that? The funny part is. these guys brag about it. (fools)

Ok, maybe I dont know everthing, but I do know more than most of the people here. My supervisor lets me do all her work thus making me believe that I am important.

hey assholes who knows whats going to happen. on friday the bk judge said that ibc is in no position to make demands on ron b to disclose his plan.so fuck off no it all.

hey assholes who knows whats going to happen. on friday the bk judge said that ibc is in no position to make demands on ron b to disclose his plan.so fuck off no it all.

columbus, knuckle head, go read court document first before you open your shit hole. by the way, do you have any knowledge about chapter 11, what is the role of each committee such as secured creditor, unsecured creditor, and equity committee? what are their motivations? how do they value the company? how much unsecured claims does ibc owe? what kind of valuation method they use? I guess you have no idea right.

Name: Anonymous Date: 2007-12-29 Location: Location:Jamaica, NY Comment: boonville, yucaipa promised to pay secured creditors in full in cash ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????If this is TRUE, WHY was Burkle's plan REJECTED for NOT stating how he planned to pay back the creditors? His "plan" was MISSING the REQUIRED element of "payiing back the creditors. Make sure you have your FACTS straight BEFORE you open your piehole. Burkle DID NOT submit an ACCEPTABLE "plan" for consideration. Burkle did his homework, huh? Think Bimb did their homework, too? I do...found out what the Teamsters were trying to HIDE and bailed out of the "deal".

ever notice interstate brands corp managment team always has excuses low card diet gas cost of ingredients workers make to much pensions why don't they just annouce WE DONT KNOW HOW TO MANAGE A BAKING CO

i cant believe this place any more

forbes should be let go immediately . There's no accountability for the mistakes he makes daily!.. Where did they get him from?

To anonymous in Jamaica,They have trouble in all levels of operation. Production,,,Transportation,,,Sales,,,,,they have no protocol.... basically very poor management! Selling routes will just prolong the agony. Wake up you dope!

a helping hand -shocked - Different name same Idiot. TALK TO THE HAND.

Ah let me enlighten you! Jamaica and Philly are interconnected and dependent on each other for product!... J.Forbes decided that each bakery will have different days off which totally screwed everything up! NOW TELL ME SELLING THE ROUTES OFF WILL FIX THE PROBLEM? Their problem is beyond infusing cash! You better learn whats going on here. Or keep taking your Meds and forget I mentioned it.

dirty, typical response. you are probably the dumbest and the most ignorant poster on this site. ignorant breeds stupidity. 1) you have no idea what this pension liability means 2) 950 is the upper limit of management estimate but since ups recent contract agreement about central state pension, this number is about 100 millions less 3) this number represent total potential liabilities due to both unions therefore only half of it is associated with teamsters. 4) I emphasized potential because that is exactly what it is. If you spend just 1/10 of your effort being ignorant and read, you will know exactly what it means. 5) if they adopt owner/operator business model which they will, the maximum they will responsible for is 400 millions which like I said before can be paid off easily by selling the routes. I wonder if you ever read what you write, pretty much full of empty accusations with no facts, evidences whatsoever.

To anonymous in Jamaica, Remember this... Comment: dirty, your posts are getting dumber every day. "the company does not have the fund to go owner/operator" ? actually it is the opposite. They will get immediate infusion of money from selling their routes, on top of that, hundred of millions of savings yearly from not having to pay for pensions and postretirement expenses associated with teamsters employees. The company does not have the fund to keep teamsters employees. That is a more accurate statement..... HEY DOPEY,,, SELLING THE ROUTES WONT FIX I.B.C.'s PROBLEMS... AND WHAT ABOUT THEIR PENSIONED FUND LIABILITIES? 950 MILLION,,,,,$400 MILLION WONT CUT IT FROM SILVERPOINT!!!! YOU'RE NOT THE BRIGHTEST BULB IN THE BUILDING,,,THATS FOR SURE!!! YOU'RE FUCKING NUTS!!!!! WEEEEEEEEEE!!!

Hey Jamaica,if you're going to post Berkel's mistakes,how about posting his accomplishments.Why don't you state the obvious.Jung is a pimple on Ron Berkel's ass.Those are the facts jack. This guy will surround himself with experienced baking people.They will in turn bake a quality product,manage it the right way and everyone,yes everyone will make some money.WTF do i know about running this company,yet I just gave you an idea on what any person with his financial accumen would do.I'll take Berkel's batting average over Jung's and his band of clowns.

To Tijuana Express, You're such a Pollyanna, but I like you anyway!

To anonymous in Jamaica,... correct me if i am wrong. YOU SOUND A LITTLE CRAZY! I think you need help. You gotta work in Corp.HQ? Am I right? Are you on psychotropic agents? I can keep a secret! Come on tell me everything!

el, fyi, burkle got involved in Kmart bankruptcy - he bought a shit load of pre Kmart shares - thought he would make a killing. The shares ended up worthless. I don't discredit his financial acumen but being a billionaire does not mean he always makes the right decision. Even people who are wealthier than he is make financial mistake all the time. About the bid, burkle never issued a press release since dec 13 about he will submit a bid for the company. Everything has been done by Teamsters. Even if they do submit a bid, it is just a delaying tactic used by teamsters using burkle's reputation. Burkle is a money man. He is only after profit. If he does not see a business venture profitable he will not get involved. Honestly, ask yourself this question: how much concessions do teamsters need to agree to for minimum price tag of 580 millions and on top of that at least 800 millions in potential pension liabilities? I can tell you this much more than the 60 millions in yearly concessions demanded by Jung. That is why neither jung's plan or teamsters' plan will prevail. Like I said before this company is extremely profitable if they follow the same business model as their competitors.

Hey JJ & Little big man......FYI, it's spelled "sense" not "since"....Wow, two peas in a pod.. We'll call you guys Twinkies. Someone need spelling lessons. If your math skills are just as bad maybe we might be able to nail down your problem out there in LA....Optimism guys. Keep on the sunny-side. Waste Manangement, call them up. You're just what the are looking for. No need to thank me. Three cheers for the brotherhood!!

So many of you posting on this site think that Ron Berkel is some Jethro that just fell off the turnip truck.Do you think that a person the caliber of a Berkel is going to get involved in this IBC mess without doing his homework? I'll put up one Berkel to your five Jungs any day.MONEY talks,everything else is just BULLSHIT.

YAYYYYYYYYYYYY......I finally got my name here in lights. I an the one in Chatworth that knows everything. I am also the best route man in my mind. I am here in Glendale, and I am still working on letting everyone here at my new depot that I am the best there is.

I know you have been waiting patiently for the in site for the new year from Zolton the Magnificent. 2008 will be it for I.B.C . It will die quick when the end comes. I see jail time for one of the Board members . And shame For Dung. As it is written so shall it be.

rsr . You can only hope my friend. You will be much better off.

We have heard here in florida that ibc is locking it's doors and closing down on monday. has anyone else heard that?

Knoxville, correct me if i am wrong. The letter you receive is to request your attendance for a hearing which the judge will either approve jung's plan or the winning bid from the alternative proposals. I believe if you read the letter carefully, somewhere in there they should mention about the alternative proposal. It was mentioned in the disclosure statement. right now, no one know about the details of all the other bids. they are not publicly available. even the judge does not know about them. only ibc and a handful of law firms have those information. Apparently they do not want to disclose the names of the bidders to avoid bidders from joining forces to low ball the price. Remember the goal of the auction is to obtain the highest bid possible. More bidders will result in higher bid. The deadline for all to submit bids are 01/15. Then they will probaly disclose the names and details of the bidders.

HEY, ROCKY MOUNT, WHO GAVE IT UP? AT LEAST SOME OF THEM HAVE A LITTLE SMARTS.

jason, how does a guy in washington dc know 1) what happens in kansas city court 2) if teamsters plan is converting into owner/operator and transport job to ups, then it is a lot worse than jung's plan, why teamsters chose that plan over jung's plan?

Paul I read the article, but it is just a reporters article. There are currently NO prefered bids in the courts hands.Rember Jung has to sign off on a bid before the judge can. IBC still has exclusive rights to accept or reject all proposal. HOW they managed to maintain these rights I have no clue other than they did show due diligence under Jung. The letter I have does not mention ANY other plan except the company plan supplied by Jung. The reason Jung wanted to see Ron's plan was to try to match the union offer and speed up his plan.According to the court letter the only thing on the agenda is to hear any objections and or approve the plan. Venters did'nt see any real issues as he set an afternoon court time, normally if there are chances of problems court times will be earlier so as not to carry over. Judge Venters like's to clear his agenda daily unless there is a real problem look for a quick approval.

, Jamaica, NY Relax man, I did not say you at all. I see over the years we have been. This is at our local job level. And that has affected our attitudes and skepticism.

You Management guy’s kill me . Your always bring up educated and Intelligence . As if your management job reflects your intelligence. You would be surprised of what some of these RSR have done before I.B.C And the number of RSR ‘s who have declined management positions is Staggering. Lack of intelligence? I don’t think so. A lot of times those who have advanced were terrible route men. and some were down rite lazy. I know of a couple guy’s who were in the position of take management or getting laid off. One guy went pretty high up here locally. So get off your high horse and give us a brake the only one you impress is yourselves.

....you have been lied... ? what does that mean? You mean I have been spreading lies or I have been given false information? Regardless of what you implied, can you prove that I have been spreading lies or have been given false information? You can't, can you? all of the information I posted here are public information. If you don't have the intellect to look for them then just say so, I will point the way. Else just go back in your dream world, and wake up on 01/29 and find out all will disappear in thin air.

Anonymous ,Jamaica, NY When you’ve been lied to and have had smoke blown up your ass for years. Along with nothing but negativity it leaves you a bit bitter and skeptical. Don’t confuse that with lack of intelligence.

Jim Monroe works for the courts in Washington D.C. Mr. Monroe has stated that there has been over150 bids for different asstes held by IBC. Since the company has stated that PTM is only approved if Teamsters agree, it is off the table, Teamsters plan lacks details, If it holds up UPS will get transport business and routes will go distibutership. IBC will be sold , plain and simple. Everyone with the exception on management 2nd tier and up will end up with a job. But the days of paid benefits and 5-6 weeks of vacations are over.

judge from the level of intelligence of ibc employees on this board, no wonder they need union protection for their job security. Even information are publicly available they still don't have the mental ability to absorb the information.

JJ Stinky. Ive been reading you and Shocked or seeing the stupidity's post's. We had a guy in Chatsworth like Shocked by the stupidity. He was a little slow but thought he new everything. In his mind he was the best Route Man ever. When he would figure something out or say something that made since he would just stop cold in his tracks and revel in his geniuses. You could tell him Anything he knows it all. I wonder if Shocked by the stupidity is the same guy?

seeing the stupidity, As usual you make no fucking since. YOU WERE THE ONE PISSING AND MOANING you big stupid bastard that’s what got me on you to began with. Your one track dimwitted mind is getting on my nerves. Your Stupidity and arrogance lets me know YOU ARE MANIGEMENT! Stop trying to pose as a route man. Im done with you. You are by far the biggest Idiot on this board and I will no longer waste my time with you!

u guys just don't get it ibc no money no concessions no 400 million no ibc burkle started bidding at 580 million no one going to bid more then that without talking to teamsters judge only cares that co is chopped up so his boss fed does not pick up pensions its very simple no loans no plan no more ibc partys over everyone knows it barabara if u want hostess fruitcakes u have to get them at a thrift store go online to find closes one near u

boonie,your a MORON,no one gets all their money back in a bankruptcy case, no one.like i told you before,look up the word on line and it will tell you that no one EVER gets all their money back.also ibc is responsible for their debt not the NEXT owners.i guess by now everbody got their bk letter in the mail today, what does that tell you? it's over for ibc.thank you teamsters for sticking it out.

Hey Barbara ,you dumb bitch! How about posting where your from or do we guess? Or is your post more Bull-shit

boonville, yucaipa promised to pay secured creditors in full in cash. To me that is better than jung's plan. But still they prefer jung's plan over yucaipa. Actually they consistently make it difficult for yucaipa to propose a plan. with jung's plan, they get about 180 millions in convertible. the reason they like the convertible is because the real value for the company is much greater than 580 millions, the current bid right now. Therefore, when the company get out of bk, the new stock price will increase according to the real value for the company and thus they will make an instant profit on the convertibles. actually, currently, the unsecured claims are trading that price the company at least 700 millions. All of these are public information. You can verify them if you want to.

CLOSE: You are missing the point.Burkle's "problem" isn't getting someone to run the day to day operations of the bakeries. His "problem" is that he attempted to submit a "plan" that met none of the requirements necessary: funding, creditor payback, etc. Keep soomething in mind: Jung worked out a very profitable deal with the creditors to pay them back...partial cash payment, partial stock payment. These are the SAME creditors who APPROVED Jung's business plan back in June. The SAME creditors who accepted that our CURRENT delivery system is not cost-effective for this company. The SAME creditors who have observed how the Teamsters are dealing with this whole issue. Does Burkle have the $$$ to pay each and every creditor off IN FULL in CASH, plus put for additional monies to purchase the Company? Do you REALLY think that Burkle would be able to work out the same terms with the creditors that Jung did? So you see, Burkle/Teamsters' most IINSIGNIFICANT problem is "day to day operations". Keep reaching....time is rapidly running out. For the TEAMSTERS, that is......

c'mon,really :would you buy a route from ibc?it hard enough now to get displays ,and then the product doesn't show up at the depot.quality control is at its lowest level.prices are not competitive,and the recipes are not the same.this won't work for ibc.ron burkle has a PLAN,and he does have someone to run the day to day bakery operations.to all you skeptics out there}}}}}}just wait and see}}}5 more days

DONT YOU PEOPLE THIS COMPANY DOESNT CARE.... EVERYBODY WAS ALLOWED TO PILE IT OUT LAST WEEK TO RUN A BETTER THAN AVG. #...THIS WEEK RETURNS ARE THROUGH THE ROOF(any one surprised???)... PEOPLE ARE WONDERING...WHOS WORSE THESE IDIOTS IN MANAGEMENT...OR THESE IDIOTS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ROUTE MEN... NOBODY CARES...NOBODY CARES.....SAME OLD....SAME OLD...

Quote from Dirty Sanchez - "Oh and maybe the reason Boonville and I haven't posted anything lately is because we're enjoying the Holiday?.." - So, where did you guys go? Did you two have fun?

To: I got a little mexican in me - You don't have a little mexican in you; you have a lot of stupido Mexican in you. - #1) There is no such thing as a Southern California Profit Center. #2) Dick still has a job because he is in charge of the California B.U.

re;Tennessee;Refer to the last line in the message board post ;12/27 . It's titled "interesting article" .Click the HTTP etc. Read the last line .I've been since 78 . We're all searching . I didn't post to discount your smarts .

Dick Willson will continue to head the Southern California profit center............Oh wait they closed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dirty, your posts are getting dumber every day. "the company does not have the fund to go owner/operator" ? actually it is the opposite. They will get immediate infusion of money from selling their routes, on top of that, hundred of millions of savings yearly from not having to pay for pensions and postretirement expenses associated with teamsters employees. The company does not have the fund to keep teamsters employees. That is a more accurate statement.

i remember when the extra lined computer paper with the bake reciepes went home with the office clerks for their kids to draw pictures on,. Do you suppose somewhere someone kept their drawings and can show these nit wits what real ingredients are and should be used in the bake sans the crayon pictures. Maybe then sales will go up because we used real vanilla, real concentrate flavorings, real flour and sugar and not the suedo fake crap and all that long named stuff to add shelf life, keep the color right, keep the chocolate from melting... to make it so twinkies will burn when torched instead of just sit there. As of now It won't be just the cockroaches and Cher that can survive a nuclear blast. Twinkies will be sitting right along side with them!

ONLY THREE WORDS FOR ALL YOU SOLES STILL IN LIMBO...GLAD I'M OUT...GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU STILL REMAINING..............

Oh and maybe the reason Boonville and I haven't posted anything lately is because we're enjoying the Holiday? Get a life

To anonymous in Jamaica, OMG! I.B.C. Doesn't have the funds or the brains to go owner operator. and who gives a shit about some ass named Chuck Moscotti? WTF? Sara Lee? They can bite me! . This info you're laying down here is wasted on us lunkheads. You really need to get on a plane headed for jungs office A.S.A.P!! You go Boy!

One 30 year and one 20 year veteran quit this week. Exactly what the company wants.

Why is the company so interested in the Unions plan? It is to try to build a defense so the judge will reject it!

If the company thought for a minute that the judge was going to approve their plan they wouldn't be trying to make the Teamsters disclose details for their bid and plan. This is not about IBC, The Teamsters, or the employess anymore. The judge is bound by law to do what is in the best interest of the creditors. Auction? maybe. Distributerships? maybe. Union contracts standing as is and employees keeping the same benefits and senority? Fat chance!

Posted on Thu, Dec. 27, 2007 Judge denies Interstate Bakeries’ request to require details from Yucaipa By DAN MARGOLIES The Kansas City Star A bankruptcy judge has denied Interstate Bakeries Corp.’s request to order Yucaipa Cos. LLC to fill in details of its offer for the bankrupt baking company by Jan. 3. U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Jerry Venters ruled last week that such an order “would be wholly unwarranted,” given that IBC established the schedule for the submission of reorganization proposals. “For that reason alone,” Venters wrote, IBC was “in no position to complain about the absence of bids or proposals at this juncture, and they are certainly in no position to demand that potential bidders be put under an expedited and totally unreasonable deadline because of their frustrations with IBT (International Brotherhood of Teamsters).” The deadline for reorganization or financing proposals is Jan. 15. Venters has scheduled a Jan. 29 hearing on the proposals. Earlier this month, Los Angeles-based Yucaipa and the Teamsters said they might team up to submit a “possible plan of reorganization” for Interstate. The two said they would work together exclusively unless and until Yucaipa, which is headed by supermarket billionaire Ron Burkle, decided not to submit a plan. IBC, however, complained that the proposal failed to disclose crucial details. The company wanted Venters to terminate the exclusivity arrangement between Yucaipa and the Teamsters so that the Teamsters would be free to discuss a reorganization plan with IBC or other parties. IBC, which filed for Chapter 11 reorganization in September 2004, has submitted its own reorganization plan, but the plan relies on concessions from the Teamsters union, which represents about 9,000 of its 25,000 employees. Venters said that while he recognized that IBC and its attorneys were exasperated by the exclusivity arrangement between Yucaipa and the Teamsters, the union was “entitled to pursue whatever strategy it deems best and to talk (or not talk) to whomever it pleases, just as other party or concerned group is entitled to do.” IBC shares closed Thursday at 1 cent, down 1 cent.

knoxville, actually it is not the secured claim holders who have the most influence in this case. It is very likely that their claims will not be impaired therefore they will not vote on the final plan of reorganization. if you don't believe me, then just read their 10K, you will see why. Guess who has the most say in this bankruptcy case? Who threatened to sue the company last year? who demanded the change of board directors? yes, that's right. It is the equity committee. There are at least 2 members of equity committee who will submit separate bids for ibc. I am very surprised most of you don't know this. This is public information since october.

Sara Lee has a guy working there by the name of Chuck Moscotti, who was an Area Sales Manager in the 80's here in Jamaica, he know how to run the business and knows the area

Boy o boy J.J., You're a real winner. You crack me up. Even your Posted name discribes you from the shoulders up hand. You should really get a life dude. You're so far gone with your petty BS. You must be a real joy to work with. Prime candidate for management. Piss & moan , Piss & moan. Such a cry baby! You're right, this web-site is for employee & CONSUMER opinion . I can only imagine what people must think knowing your any employee who maybe bakes or delivers the IBC products they eat. One more reason your mouth is a weapon used in the destruction of this company as well others. You didn't read the heading of this web-site did you? Like I said, it's no wonder your services aren't needed any longer hand. Get a job doing something you can relate to. Oh and make sure reading isn't required. You skip around too much Jethro.

u dumb assess ibc has no money only debts chase manhatten bank owns ibc burkles bid will give them money now not when ibc turns a profit they never turn a profit I'm sure u all agree remember money talks bullshit walks what would u want money now or maybe money later come on get real keep believing what managment is telling u that bullshit is just to keep u working till burkle cleans house

u dumb assess ibc has no money only debts chase manhatten bank owns ibc burkles bid will give them money now not when ibc turns a profit they never turn a profit I'm sure u all agree remember money talks bullshit walks what would u want money now or maybe money later come on get real keep believing what managment is telling u that bullshit is just to keep u working till burkle cleans house

to anon knoxville, are you a creditor? Well what you said were correct because the judge already indicated that if there are no other bidders, he will approve the company's disclosure statement. However, if anyone can come up with a higher bid and or a different plan with higher value, then he will approve the highest bid. This is where people don't understand. The teamsters are screwed either way. If they submit a bid, they will be outbid during the auction because their plan does not demand as much concession as jung's plan or distributor plan contemplated by other bidders. On the other hand, if they don't bid, then the judge will approve the highest bid based either on jung's plan or any other business plan that gives the highest value. After winning bidder, after the auction can either request the judge void current contracts or better yet use the provisions in the current contract to impose concessions if jung's plan prevails or implement distributorship. The judge can void contract but he cannot force union to accept new contracts. The unions then can either accept concessions or strike. A strike is the only card left for the union to play.

Got the same letter to all debitors you must be like me on a structured workers comp settlement. Knoxville does not lie 11/29/08 plan approved

Paul you are contradicting your own post you have no facts to discount my statement. I do have a letter from the US bankrupcy court by judge Jerry W. Venters. United States Courthouse 400 E. 9th st. Kansas City , Missouri Court time January 29,2008 at 1:30 pm.Case Number 04-45814-11. If you will post a fax # of the location you work at I will fax you a copy of it. No where on my post was I for or against the union or the company. I was just trying to give you an update. I have experience in this type of bankrupcy from before I can tell you from that this is happening. What experience in corporate bankrupcy or reorganization do you have that makes you qualified to discount my post?

To anonnymous Tennassee;go draw on your corncob pipe more . Don't post ; unless it's fact !Your comment is not fact .

Today I received a letter from the bankrupcy court. It is ORDER AND NOTICE FOR HEARING ON DISCLOSURE. It states that on 1/29/08 there will be a hearing to consider approval of the company's plan and disclosure statement. The last day to file an objection is 1/15/08. What this means is anyone may file an objection but the only ones that have to be heard are the ones from debtholders listed in the disclosure statement. And normally the only one of thoes to give weight to are secured debtholders. The major ones have already sided with the company's plan. So unless someone jump's ship on 1/29/08 IBC will receive approval to exit bankrupcy under Jung's plan PTM and all concessions. The unions now have until then to try to negotiate a better deal or take the plan as is with Venters signature. While some teamsters claim this cannot happen Mr. Volupe nor Mr. Hoffa will tell you this cannot happen it can and will. The company is not dead and Jung most probably will receive approval for his plan. On the brighter side HAPPY NEW YEAR at least we will be out of bankrupcy.

the only way for the company to get more loans is for employees to work for peanuts thank god the teamsters had enough ball to tell ibc to fuck off y should they get more loans to blow 400 million and with the same managment will fail again then where will we be thank god when burkle takes over he will get rid of all management so we can go in a differrent direction it almost over guys just hang in there

tthis company is as dead as a doornail.when i had something to say i was told to shutup and go back to work. well here you go folks i was right all along that the company was not run right.

Now I'm sorry that we did't stand up like philly did. And turn that BS contract down .Because now they can walk out now. And get a better deal . God bless the three bakres..

ceo of sara lee and president of sara lee bakery division both held previous executive positions at pepsico the same company jung used to work for. It will not surprise me if sara lee ends up taking over ibc. Actually sara is the favoured bidder right now.

sorry that's fate not faith

shocked by stupidity finally someone on this site who doesnt need a pacifier. thought lack of intellagence was required to post on this site

bud, how much does route man make at ibc?

Not under the present leadership .I would think about it if they got new board members and replaced Dung.

Jamaica, NY Who in there rite mind would buy a route from I.B.C. ?? I’m being serious is there anyone who would buy a route from I.B.C???

no comment from dirty or boonville lately. Maybe both have come to similar conclusion about the faith of ibc. Here are the facts: 1) bimbo bailed out of yucaipa plan apparently because the plan is not workable 2) section 1113 of bankruptcy code allow companies to void union contracts 3) practically, unions do not have contract with ibc - read my previous posts 4) at least 2 hedge funds and non union competitors are bidding for ibc 5) pension liabilities can easily paid off by selling the routes when ibc convert into independent distributorship 6) ibc is very profitable if using distributors. Looking at the above facts, anyone can easily conclude that jung's plan is a long shot and yucaipa's plan is DOA - dead of arrival. Even boonville, a longtime jung's plan supporter no longer denies this judging from his silence.

Hey what do ,LMAO!! mean. What the hell it means?? LMAO!! ??

JJ, Damn Bro you be brutal. To the point and straight up though. I think I be invite’n you and Dirty Sanchez over for some beer and BBQ ribs. You Guy’s Like Bbq Ribs ? Oh, And Dirk stop talking your shit mo fo

shocked by the stupidity ---I don’t crap on my kitchen floor do you? That’s what your toilet is for to crap in correct. In case you haven’t noticed .This Is not Work.. This Is not the floor at my customers market. This is not church, Day care ,A school or public library .This has become if not originally designed to be some what of a forum for I.B.C employees to share concerns ,Pass on information and to Vent as needed. And with all we have given to this company we have earned the rite to bitch.And If I chose to use Bad language for what ever reason. I will do so. This is not I.B.C And we need to answer to nobody here. If you don’t like what your reading dont come to this site. Go read I.B.C’s . I can tell by your post your not that bright so I’ll pass on your advice on how to be a route man. And please go fuck yourself!

Hey Chesty Puller, Don't make me shoot your eye out again! You crusty mother fucker!

Larry, That was my private parts that I lost several years back on a bread slicer. Do you still have them I would like them back?Name: Larry Date: 2002-11-15 Date: Products Comment: I purchased a loaf of Merita bread from Food Lion in CLinton, TN., on 12 Nov, 2002. The expiration date is 23 Nov, 2002. When I got home and opened the bread to make a sandwich, I found that there is a large "matter" baked into the bread which appears to possibly be some sort of an animal, maybe the skin and hair of a rodent! Myself and my family are extremely upset. I have pictures of this "matter" and still have the loaf of bread. I would like for you to contact me and let me know how your company intends to handle this issue! You may contact me via e-mail at moskol@aol.com. I would like to have your input before I make a decision on whether to approach the media or not. Thank you and I look forward to hearing from you very soon. Sincerely, Larry Moskol P.O. Box 843 Norris, TN 37828

Still a Rams Fan! I was mostly referring to being a Rams fan. If you moved on from I.B.C 8 years ago why the hell you posting on here for. Seems kind of like I.B.C. bull-shit to me

Waste managment?? IBC has enough of that why would they hire more?

Since the posts on this site are mostly ignorant these days thought I would submit a list of the top 10 posters from days gone by who had relevant points....but have moved on....gotten other jobs and no longer think about IBC 10. No Dough Joe 9. Bitch Ass clerk 8. Bun Boy 7. John Dough 6. Madd Maxx 5. Lord Bun Master 4. Old Fart 3. The Insider 2. Bob Boner 1. RAZZ Sorry Bonneville and Dirty Snatches, company hacks and Union plants don't qualify.

Like I said, especially to the idiot in California. Your mouth displays your level of respect of others. Not this company or any company for that matter needs a punk with smart-mouth like yours working in a position such as route-sales. It takes personality hand. Which it's evident to me you lack a great deal of. I wonder how you ever got past the interview to hire in. If you think that we haven't felt the crunch of this whole thing you're just mis-informed. Our bakery was close Sept. 17th 2005. I watched many friends of mine have to walk away from the only job the ever had. I know first hand what effect this has had on many lives. Don't think you're the only person have tough times. My problem with guys like you is the fact you have nothing better to do except curse others and show that what this company needs anyway so go work for the garbage company and pick up trash. At least your language will match your job title. Trash-man.

they r so arogoant till the end they think they dictate what happens in the courts the secured creditors own your ass bitch pay them or obey hello ibc has no money no money no power anom boonville I hope your in jungs office when he hears who teamsters and burkle got aboard to run bakeries I can't wait till the 15th volpe has a stack of papers as high as the ceiling jung should of begged for there help from the start now make them suffer as hoffa said the tide will turn well watch out for waves managment fair warning has been giving

Distributerships are on the way. UPS will get the transport business. Business plan will be submitted 1-2-08.

see what happens when u stop paying off judge all rulings go against u vetters teamsters can talk to or not talk to who ever they want ibc set the date for bid ibc can't change dates when they want jung really thought the judge was going to throw out teamsters cause they only will work with burkle what till jung finds out who burkle got to run day to day bakeries operations rug taken out from under them watch it ha ha ha can't wait till the 15th I would love to se jungs face

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Interesting article: http://sanfrancisco.bizjournals.com/kansascity/stories/2007/12/24/story8.html?b=1198472400%5E1567101

the bears have already bailed out of the market. Now would be a good time for a hostile take over wouldn't it.....everybody is already in combative hostile moods

To Rudy...be sure to have lots of soap on hand...suggest using Lava...it has been known to cure many bocas using expletives deletives

well i got my invitation to go to the bankrupstyhearing anyone got a airplane ticket from maine to kansas? not sure if i want to know what.s going on really

does scott miller still work at henderson????? is he behavin??????

Yeah, I can see it now...Amalgamated Teamsters Bell Ringers of America.......

When they close the doors we won't need a job. We all have big fat 401k packages and alot of cash stashed. And before we close the doors and turn the lights out we will sell pans, parts, motors, ect for scrap for extra cash. You might need to ring that bell next year, and we will put some loose change in the kettle for you.

Bimbo .How can you kill something off that is all ready dead.

IBT and Yucaipa thanks for getting me in to see the inner workings at IBC. I never really wanted to buy it now that I have all this inside info I can kill it off piece by piece.Sorry I will f--- you too Thanks again amigo

Hey Anon, What the fuck do you know about being useless you no good piece of shit. The only thing that is true is that Mangement dont give a fuck.

Chris P for CEO!! RECP

the ibc plant in henderson,nv is by far the most fucked up place anyone can work. the employees are way under payed. they are overworked and treated like slaves. the management team does not know how to run the bakery, and they dont care to learn. the foremen are lazy, and not quilified to do their jobs. ibc does not care about the employees, and neither does the weak worthless union. who ever reads this, if you ever move to vegas do yourself a favor and don't get a job at ibc, the place will never change, and they dont care about you.

Little Black Sambo.----DUDE... ...??

Did you here about the tiger at the San Francisco zoo. Found out his I.B.C. Stock was worthless and killed some one.

In The Know ,Thats too cool. I cant wate to watch I.B.C screw this up and distroy them selfs for good!

rumor- talk upstairs about dist. rts if no teamster agreement. Fact- All nonunion rts. in SC PC already dist.Fact- SCPC #1 in profit last year.

shocked by stupidity .Monroe, LA Guess what Dick Head here in L.A . Calif we were running great route average’s also. And I worked with a great crew. We got kicked in the balls and fucked in the ass. Your quote “ talking about things you know nothing about” cracks me up because that’s exactly what I though about you after reading your post. Go stick your head in the sand and keep a smile on your face because your years of outstanding work ethic will get this company and your self through this tuff time. HELLO IS ANYONE HOME!!! You don’t like what you read here .Don’t read here. And good luck when reality fucks you in the ass.

Still a Rams Fan ! I Guess still a Rams fan says it all .LOOOOOSER. Rams sold you out just like I.B.C sold you out . Move on knumb knutt

Tijuana Express: What is this? Are you trying to size-up Dirty? Do you have a problem? Let me guess , You are a bocor of anatomy. No, No, I got it , you are the FETISHES TYPE No wrong again. I got it you are more interested on FELLATIO.

I agree with "shocked by stupidity". Most of what I see on here are idiots making stupid coments that make no sense. I have 22 years as a sales rep. I want everything to work out for all of us. Change will come no matter who is running this Company. The only thing I have issues with are the same people running the company who put us here in the first place. If they were good management this would have been headed off long before we went ch. 11.

To Tijuana Express, I didn't mean to leave you out, I think you're a female too! Merry Christmas!

shocked by stupidity if i want to here someone rant and rave i would talk to my wife after i got her a cubic insted of a dimond for christmas because of a lack of money people are pissed and if you lost your job yould probably do the same everyone else is doing and if you dont like it read the ibc website and if you dont like that then go FUCK YOURSELF ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can understand why this company has went so far down. Reading some your comments shows me that most that post here are simply children trying to live in an adult world. If most of you are really employed by this company then enough said. It scares me to think that you all spend your free time making these kind of comments. Using the kind of language you use and talking about things you know absolutely nothing about. Here in Monroe, we're running a great route average. low stales, and have a really good crew. Sure we have some issues but we're nothing like you people. Things are tough all over and sure our company is in trouble but get real. These post on this web-site are disgraceful. I'm really glad I don't work with some of you. Childish puts it lightly. And to think, everyone wonders why we're in trouble. Just look at the mental status of these so called employees. Good grief.!!!

Merry Christmas to all of you. Dirty, told you before I was not your type!! (Unless you're into same-sex relationships!!) We've exchanged quite a few words on here, but I want to wish each and every one of you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!! This will all work out somehow, in the end.

Re: Please retaliate - I don't care anymore These idiots do get it. Its like a drug addiction, they have gotten themselves caught up in there own greed. Its obvious that their parents didn't teach them the good moral values (assuming they had parents) of life. .....Its Christmas day and I won't talk shit on anyone today. Just rest assured, soon the tables will turn and a new game will start. The difference is: the Players. They will be different people. Untill then I will be "Watghing and Laughing" Merry Christmas!

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL MY TEAMSTER BROTHERS +SISTERS.

Dirty - Just an observation; ever since it was suggested that Booneville might be of the opposite gender, you've been writing quite a few of your posts directly to her. Are you hopping to strike some kind of rapport and maybe she'll give "it" up for you. You’re a dog bro…a Dirty dog. LOL! Booneville – Anyway you can post some personal specifics; age, height, weight, hair, eyes etc, etc, for Dirty. Merry Christmas to all my acquaintances and friends, I have grown to see you as “family” after all these years. To the Board of Directors - Too late to get rid of Jung by Christmas, but you can aim for New Years?

tired??? it's pronounced "tide"

Oh and I am an Ex Marine... Oh wait.. Army.. Oh wait.. Cub Scout.. wel anyway I went to Weest Point and was in the service for 20 years but never made it past the rank of Captain. Oh well I guess they didnt appreciate me. You will all salute me from now on.

Merry Christmas to everyone. I know we put soem of you out of work. Some of you are making less, and some of you are working harder than you should. But we appreciate everyones contribution..........HA Ha Ha.... You all suck and I am GOD! Merry Fucking Christmas from all IBC Management.

To Chesty Puller, Thanks! to you and yours! This web site is free, No point in wasting server space? Merry Christmas everyone! Merry Christmas Boonville! It's just a job.

Quote from RudyRodriguez - "Tijuana Express; Brusco; H-D-L-C La cantina que hablas. Ver al bano y enjuagar te la boca con la agua de la taza." - - WTF? Drunk again? Would you please translate; the only thing I understood was that you like big,burly, Mexican gay men. Did I get that right?

To all employes who are not working right know have a Merry Christmas those brothers and sisters in So Cal keep your heads up!!!! To IBC management and boonville under that desk you also have a Merry Christmas Scrooge. To all those still fighting for whats right thank you GOD BLESS EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!

TURDmen in Transport; This is too funny. It is amazing how everybody on the floor knows what is going on but these two. Morale is the lowest I've seen it ever and these two oblivious idiots just don't get it.

What is up with this company? I was approached by IBC for a job but I'm not sure.

I was an rsr for wonder when they were still in Dorchester, Mass before the move to Natick and before the move to Biddeford...Not much has changed..I was a college kid trying to make good on a route, and the old boy network promoted the regional managers son who couldnt find his way out of the truck at each stop.....I went into trucking and am so glad that I did...the hours were just as bad, but the rewards much better.

Tijuana Express; Brusco; H-D-L-C La cantina que hablas. Ver al bano y enjuagar te la boca con la agua de la taza.

Who is this Jim Brock guy and what has he done to piss some folks off?

Attn: Jeff Jernigan and Rick Schoenberg. Also IBC....We want to wish you the merriest of xmas' ever. We, the transport foremen are going to have the best one ever. Because of your neglect at keeping an eye on what we're doing, we are going to end this year in stile. We are taking this turdship to the bank. Should be close to $100,000.00 this year. Pretty good for a couple of blokes with no edumacation.

Hey Pete, I was there it was hosted by Sugar Bowl Bakery, Thanks for the pictures it was a blast from the past.

nobody in the business would buy a route from ibc a company that lost 18 million last month alone also the route would have to do 40000 a month to make it worth wild we lost so many schools and resturant we r streched so thin between our first round of cutbacks and the poor products nobody I now would buy a route they would have to sell to people outside industry because of the first round of layoffs we r stuck mostly with old timers just waiting for the end which is soon

No I am not a route man. But from ibc monthly number, each route pull about $28000 to 30000 every 4 weeks. This number is comparable to similar routes for sale from other companies. And guess how much they are asking for? at least 100 grands.

anom jam u must not be in the field otherwise u would understand N0 ONE WILL BUY A ROUTE the bread is horrible we r losing resturants like crazy we r getting r asses kicked in the field this has nothing to do with how we get it to the market wake up u r putting the cart before the horse fix what's in the fucking bag step one its not brain surgery

anom jam u must not be in the field otherwise u would understand N0 ONE WILL BUY A ROUTE the bread is horrible we r losing resturants like crazy we r getting r asses kicked in the field this has nothing to do with how we get it to the market wake up u r putting the cart before the horse fix what's in the fucking bag step one its not brain surgery

Since the company will incur the teamsters pension liabilities whether or not they remain unionized, anyone taking over this company will attempt to convert it into independent distributorship. This is why jung demands so much concessions. In order for his plan to be profitable and to return as much value to the creditors and equity committee members as the plan using independent distributors, alot of concessions are needed. As a matter of fact, at least 2 groups of equity committee members are proposing plans that include aspects of independent distributors and they are bidding head to head against jung's plan.

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what bakeries r working christmas day?

dirty, in general the provisions in the extensions agreement allow the company to assume or not to assume the extensions agreement at their own will. If they chose not to assume the agreement, then the previous contracts will return in effect. However, previous contracts already expire, therefore there is no contract at all if the company chose not to assume. Unlike what boonville said previously. There is no provision in the current extensions agreement that says that if the previous contract return in effect, its expiration date will be 2011 or the expiration of the extensions agreement. I am not bullshitting. I already gave you the document number. You can verify this information if you wish. This is the reason why the company never ask the judge to void the unions contract and impose concession and path to market on teamsters. I don't know if ptm will be successful or not. But it is probably the only plan that will keep teamsters employees, preserve pensions, and make creditors happy. On the other hand, if the hedge fund or sara lee or george weston take over, because there is no contract, they will implement independent distributorship and cancel all teamsters pension plan. half of the pension liabilities is due to teamster pension plan. The money they get from selling the routes will be more than enough to pay off teamsters pension liabilities.

and another thing managment complains about negative rsr I don't blame them u dumbasses created them bye fucking them for so many years look the bottom line is upper management has steered the ship into the rocks they make the calls on how to run the company y not tell the truth that we fucked up and we don't know what the fuck we r doing and we need your help

well on long island frito lay just took all the costcos away from rsr and made them direct ship u know like path to market they sell a lot of chips in there now they don't have to pay rsr commisions that's all jung is about fucking the rsrs anyone who thinks different needs a brain transplant

We got a party in Oakland hosted by Jeff. Here is a pic: http://prezwho.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/elvis.gif

once he gets the company who says it has to be a publicly traded company.

He's just like a politician,A fucking bloodsucking bug. An ugly bug at that!

How come Jernigan lets the Foreman get whatever hours they please and does not hold his staff accountable? Thanks Jeff for not giving a Holiday meal, so the few Formans can steal overtime and be obvious about it. Also what about the12 at night Foreman meeting? With the money you spent for that we could have had a Holiday party. You fat pig! We hope you choke on a ham bone! Do your job- slob!!

To L.I. fly, I don't think this is about turning the company around, It's about sucking every dollar out of it and into jungs pockets. He's here for the money, THATS ALL. It's all a bullshit routine. I'm sure he's done this before.

a few years ago weston bakeries tried to have two three guys on the route like work 2 days off 2 day the old timers told them it will never work mangment laughed at them they voted on it some how it got aproved everyone said the teamsters sold them out but they had that clause when it fails we go back to old way all the route guys I know say path to market will never work 20 30 years experence in the field these guys know what the fuck there talking about jung ever run a route dumbasses

Hey JJ, I've never seen Boonville take such a pummeling before. Boonville!!!! throw in the towel before you killed in here! You gotta admire her heart!

Booneville - Obviously Jung's got his dick so far up your ass that you are talking like one of his boyfriends. I will not waste anymore of my time with you, I got a company to bring down.

How many shares purchased would it take to gain control of IBC?

Tired ,San Francisco, CA (Wonder) Very well said brother. I would like to add if I may the years before the B.K of constant route cut’s and lack of job security. Also watching dumb decisions and policies being past down knowing good and well the effects it would have on business.

Qoute from RudyRodriguez - "All these years I was at home. Since 1492 . We have been terroized by Bimbos. Do you care for a History Lesson? You are not going to like it." - - WTF? You're back to drinkin' again? Don't post anything until you sober up Rudy! Meanwhile go back to that Tijuana Cantina where they love you so much.

For now on lets call him Dingle Berry. It be X-mas and it sounds kind of festive. And he’s stuck on every word Dung be say ’n like a Dingle Berry stuck to the side of your ass-hole

JJ, How about Jungs left testical?

Hey Dirty Sanchez , Don’t you think Anonymous ,Boonville, MO has been Anonymous long enough . I mean after all he comes on here and bad mouth’s the R.S.R.’s bad mouth’s the union . Spreads Dung’s propaganda day in and day out. I think he deserves a name.

long island fly -- “what r they afraid of” They know path to destruction wont work it was just the foundation to get rid of the union. The Union knows this and that’s why they want the clause in there. Hmmm- Seems were at a stand off and Mr. Big -O- heaping pile of Dung is running out of time.

To Bimbo: All these years I was at home. Since 1492 . We have been terroized by Bimbos. Do you care for a History Lesson? You are not going to like it.

I guess the co stop payments to the judge all there demands r being shot down like turkeys just before thanksgiving all that matters is the money chase bank wants there money judge wants ibc not to be chopped up so fed does not take on pensions like airlines did burkle is just looking to get baking co on board to run day to day operations of bakeries once present managment is gutted out the baking co is not in america and its not bimbo I don't feel bad for ibc all teamsters want is a clause in agreement when path to lose market fails we go back to old contract what r they afaid of

Hey Boonville, Shouldn't you be in church now?

hey JJ stinky ass i hate to admit it but I totally agree with your comments. I also hate to admit it but your post does appear to somewhat similar to something I would write! I'm unfortunately still employed, Sorry Boonville,I was starting to respect you.

hey boonville i hate to admit it but i totatly agree with your comments( to jj or is it dirty)

Boonville, MO///////////////////// Sir, I am tired of your tone. The employees (RSR's) that I am associated with, do not desire the destruction of the company. Yes our moral is down, but what else would you expect? 3 years of bankruptcy, 3 years of not being able to plan a vacation, 3 years of not knowing if I can support my house payment and family, 3 years trying to guess if I should leave this mess or stay, 3 years of watching my paycheck decline and watching our product quality & sales decline.///////////////We are still here, loading our trucks everyday, hauling out displays, trying to control our returns. We are not afraid of change, we are stuck in the middle of this fight. We don't trust the Union, but neither trust the company to think of it's employees along with profits. I didn't ask to be a Union member, but here we are.....caught in the middle with no good solution in sight. We are the last line between the bakery and the consumer, we touch the bread, tighten the ties, stack the cake and hear all the consumers likes and dislikes. The RSR's are the "face" of IBC and we feel demoralized and let down by management and our employer. We have become the laughing stock of the industry. We feel caught in the middle of a battle between our employer and the Union. Please just bring all this to an end, so we can get back to work or move on with our lives. 3 years is too long to put life on hold! IBC has become like a bad marriage, either we get divorced or go to counseling soon! Sorry for ranting :[

Boonville, MO///////////////////// Sir, I am tired of your tone. The employees (RSR's) that I am associated with, do not desire the destruction of the company. Yes our moral is down, but what else would you expect? 3 years of bankruptcy, 3 years of not being able to plan a vacation, 3 years of not knowing if I can support my house payment and family, 3 years trying to guess if I should leave this mess or stay, 3 years of watching my paycheck decline and watching our product quality & sales decline.///////////////We are still here, loading our trucks everyday, hauling out displays, trying to control our returns. We are not afraid of change, we are stuck in the middle of this fight. We don't trust the Union, but neither trust the company to think of it's employees along with profits. I didn't ask to be a Union member, but here we are.....caught in the middle with no good solution in sight. We are the last line between the bakery and the consumer, we touch the bread, tighten the ties, stack the cake and hear all the consumers likes and dislikes. The RSR's are the "face" of IBC and we feel demoralized and let down by management and our employer. We have become the laughing stock of the industry. We feel caught in the middle of a battle between our employer and the Union. Please just bring all this to an end, so we can get back to work or move on with our lives. 3 years is too long to put life on hold! IBC has become like a bad marriage, either we get divorced or go to counseling soon! Sorry for ranting :[

Hey anonymous in Jamaica, Don't keep us in suspense. Why don't you just post that court document 5183 here on this site? We can handle the truth!

The truth is,..If this place was as bad off as I.B.C. makes it out to be they wouldn't be fighting so hard to keep control! ...I.B.C. NEEDS TO GO!

Boonville: When I started here I was gung ho. Now I work for two foremen and two managers who are a flat out joke. Upper management has allowed the shit they pull to go on. So, what do you expect? A good morale? You are the kind of moron that has created this MORALE problem, so go back under your desk,put on your helmet and watch the bottom fall out.

boonville, read court document 5183. What do you think about other parties use the provisions in this extensions agreement to implement independent distributorship?

Re: Please retaliate - I don't care anymore --What you say is agreeable. The funny thing is that we have a foreman that is pretty close to worthless (Maria) right here on the floor. we have all complained about her and she is still here. We also have 2 transport foremen who are theives and steal time. ---Now in this situation. These people should be replaced with ones who would do the job.But upper management are just as worthless and don't care. So, at this point we end up with a company in B.K.--Lets just hope that whomever ends up owning this place. See's whats happening and does something about it. From the upper eshlons to the lower, its out of hand and needs to be rebuilt.

For example, let’s take a low grade first string shop foreman; if there are too many complaints from the employees or the accident incident rate is too high on his shift, what do you think it would happen to this poor bastard?/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////Or just maybe, that supervisor needs complimented because those "employees" with the bad attitudes aren't doing their jobs and the supervisor is holding them accountable? Or maybe a few of those bad "employees" are reading the bull shit on this site telling people to file WC Claims and are faking it???? Yeah, there's a problem with morale, no doubt. But it seems to be the minority of employees who feel that way. Numerous bakeries who had contract votes asked for revotes because of the MINORITY of employees with "bad attitudes" were behavingin a threatening and intimidating manner. Understand something: no one in this company is irreplaceable. There is someone out there waiting to step in and fill that job. If your attitude is that you don't want to work for this company any more and you feel that this company sucks, by all means....LEAVE. No one is holding you captive here. Get the hell out. Go away. I work ard for this company, as I have done at every job I've had. I WANT to see this company succeed. Plain and simple. However, at this point in the game, anyone whose agenda is to see to the destruction and closing of this company DOES NOT BELONG HERE. They need to move on. This company cetainly does not need their attitude. It only makes everyone who is trying to save this company have to work harder than they should. I'm not quite sure where this entitlement orientation that the employees have a right to tell the company how it is going to operate came from. The problem is that people are afraid of change. What do you think would have happened to the auto industry thirty five years ago if the employees decided that they weren't going to accept automation of the assembly lines? What do you think would have happened to the steel industry if the employees decidedthey weren't going to accept automation of the steel making process? No one can say for sure if PTM will work as it is designed or not. If you feel you can at this point without knowing the intracacies of the program, then you are determined to se to its failure insead of it success. Therefore you are afraid of change.

Hey Boonville, By any chance are you related to Tim Gentry?? I have noticed some post you dance around and change the subject. Like the Murphy and Hobbs post!!

Booneville - Okay, let’s say that only 4500 Teamsters have a “bad “attitude. On top of that, how many employees from the Bakers Union, Maintenance Mechanics, Garage Mechanics, non-union office workers and salaried personnel do you think are unhappy with current upper management? You add them all up and you’ll get an unacceptably high number of employees that can be probably be labeled as having a “bad” attitude. Don’t you think that upper management should burden the responsibility of such low morale amongst the troops? For example, let’s take a low grade first string shop foreman; if there are too many complaints from the employees or the accident incident rate is too high on his shift, what do you think it would happen to this poor bastard? He would be removed so fast that it would probably make his head spin. – Why can’t we hold our company leadership to the same standards?

TO ZINGER BRINGER - the key word is "TRADED". 8 mil shares "TRADED" this week. The day trading hacks are allover IBC.-------------------------------At the end of this BK, this stock will be worthless. If IBC is still intact, new stock will be issued.

JJ...or is it Dirty? You make yourself seem really ignorant by posting the same garbage under different names. While the names may change, the BS doesn't, making it obvious who is doing the posting. Now about your comments....think about something for a moment: Go back and reread what I posted earlier that the BK Judge wrote: "as the court is inclined to do". He was talking about the company's disclosure statement and reorganization plan and the court's approving it. If Yucaipa doesn't submit an acceptable plan (by acceptable I mean one that answers the questions required by the plan) or decided to back out altogether (like Bimbo did) the court has already stated that it is inclined to approve the Company's plan. Where does that leave the Teamsters? You need to understand something...no matter what yoou think, no matter what the Teamsters are telling you, no matter how strong you think unions are, their sole priority is protection. Protection of ther income, that is. The Teamsters are not going to just flush 9000 jobs and more important to THEM, the dues associated with those jobs. Stop and think for a minute how much money the Teamsters make annually from IBC alone. Unions are a business, too. As a businerss, the ONLY way you are of any use to them is if you are EMPLOYED. If IBC closes because the Teamsters don't want to agree to a contract, what use are you to them? Zero, because they won't be collecting dues from you any more. Face it...no one is lining up to buy IBC "as is" and keep it running, other than Burkle, IF he is really serious. If IBC is forced to close, the Teamsters lose the dues revenue from you and every other represented employee. There is too much liability for ANYONE to buy this company and continue to run it "as is". Grupo Bimbo WAS on board with the Teamsters/Yucaipa. It didn't take Gruo Bimbo very long to figure out that a) Yucaipa/Teamsters "plan" wasn't going to work, or b) the liabilities far outweigh the value of the company. Which do you think it is? How about a combination of the two? I posted on here TWO WEEKS before Bimbo's annoncement that they were not on board with the Teamsters/Yucaipa that they were going to do that. Do you think it was coinicidence that Grupo Bimbo met with IBC THEMSELVES (without Yucaipa/Teamsters) and told the Company they were not interested in buying IBC after being told about the pension liabilities? Grupo Bimbo ALSO (like oour creditors) liked the Path to Market plan. Teamsters/Yucaipa said that they would not change distribution. Meanwhile, Bimbo is working to change its own deliery system (independent distributorships). Now do you see WHY Bimbo pulled out? Hopefully you can now see why no one else will buy IBC. Only ones lining up are the vultures who want to pick the bones of the company if it dies. And picking the bones requires no purchase of liability, union contract, or employees.

Hey Booneheadville, Your comment “Only a dipshit who understands nothing about bnkruptcy would concern themselves with the price of stock of a company preparing to emerge” I would like to ad, OR a company preparing themselves to close the doors. I would like to use Global crossing as a prime example I could go but you would not understand. Makes me happy I hit a tender spot with you though. I gave one hundred percent and then some every day , Never called in sick in fifteen years . I was laid off in Oct. No severance ect . I can laugh and crack jokes about this piece of shit company all I want. I have earned that rite. And they are so funny you must admit. I don’t need I.B.C . And we don’t need you spreading your Bullshit!

Name: please retaliate - I don't care anymore! Date: 2007-12-23 Location: Location:Sacramento, CA Comment: Booneville; There's probably thousands of employees that feel the same way. What we need is a real leader on top that will start to change some of these poor attitudes. - As for you, go ahead and stick a broomstick up your ass. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////ACTUALLY, it's about 4500 or so Teamsters that feel a need for change, isn't it? After all, out of 9000 Teamsters, 4500 was all that would sign your laughable little petiton, wasn't it? Besides that, 9000 employees out of 25000 don't represent a majority of the employees of this company, either, do they? Eventually, the kids who, the "bully" pushes around band together and kick the bully's ass.

Booneville; There's probably thousands of employees that feel the same way. What we need is a real leader on top that will start to change some of these poor attitudes. - As for you, go ahead and stick a broomstick up your ass.

“If Yucaipa and the IBT fail to submit a meaningful or valid proposal, and if the Court approves the Debtors’ disclosure statement at the end of January – AS IT IS INCLINED TO DO – perhaps the Debtors and the IBT will be able to work out their differences.” This is taken right from the BK Judge's most recent ruling...read CAREFULLY and see if you can UNDERSTAND what he is saying, especially with the CAPITALIZED portion. Sounds to me like the almighty Teamsters have a significant uphill battle against them. Gee...there's that term again....SIGNIFICANT...lie the "concessions" Volpe says employees will have to give up in order to work under Yucaipa's "plan". But wait a minute....Yucaipa doesn't HAVE a plan.

Only a dipshit who understands nothing about bnkruptcy would concern themselves with the price of stock of a company preparing to emerge. You see, the stock is worthless today because it is going to be worthless when the company emerges. Today's stock will be cancelled...it will be woth zero, and the company will be issuing NEW STOCK upon emergence. So go ahead...keep cracking "jokes" about the stock...you see, like most of the "opinions" on this board, the jokes carry as much value and pertinence as the stock you joke about. It's really sad...if you "jokers" on here and those who want to do nothing but run the company down would have spent half as much energy trying to make this company better, we may have been able to come out of this a lot sooner. Better yet, if you would spend half as much energyas you spend tryiing to be "funny" or "enlightening" with your witty comments on trying to find your worthless selves ANOTHER JOB, maybe those who WANT to see this company suceed can work toward making it better rather than having to find ways to keep dragging the deadweight around.

We were able to get rid of Hobbs bastard son John Grahle or how ever you spell the dick heads name. Why can't we get rid of the other old bastard?Name: MY DOUGH WOULD NEVER CLEAN UP WITH FORMULAS LIKE THESE Date: 2007-12-22 Location: Location:Glendale, CA Comment: Hobbs is a perfect example of how well ESL ( extended shelf life) works, that antique MF should have been in the ground ages ago SAME IDOITS SAME FUCKED UP MANAGEMENT! CLOSE THEM ALL DOWN AND DO THE CONSUMER A FAVOR

I like hitting this site now and again .Pop off a couple smart ass comments on observations about how stupidly I.B.C is run and leave. Its getting way to easy to bag on I.B.C . Dung has taken the sport out of it. Its like shooting turds in a barrel. I need to find a new hobby. Maybe I’ll trade some stock. Lets see I have a Quarter and two dimes in my pocket. That’s 15 shares of I.B.C. stock. AAAHHHHH-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA

Quote from Bimbo in San Diego - "1-15-08 is the date that they send Rudy Rodrigues back to Mexico" - Why bother? He'll just sneak back as Julio Gonzales in a couple of weeks. - Talking about repatriating some of these guys (a lot of these guys are border jockeys - they live in TJ and work in the San Diego plant - well, they used to) Has anyone heard of that poor-little-overstuffed-tommale, Art Ayon? As hard as he tried, the poor little fat-fuck just couldn't do it.

that's the debtor in poss money 200 mill from chase bank they say they never touched it but they have over 120 million notes against it so they lose 20 million a month that will last 4 months chase has no choice they r owed over 450 million as a secured creditor so basicaly they own ibc

it looks like the company is going to get another six month extension and the money to do it. check ibciq and press enter.

1-15-08 is the date that they send Rudy Rodrigues back to Mexico

01 15 08 is the date you losers

Re: My doughs would never clean up using their formulas? But then Murph or Bart Simpson would boast over a cup of coffee that they were able to add a half of percent of water to formula? They would go back to Kansas City letting everyone know they corrected the problems, yet we were wheeling crippled bread out the back door and throwing it away until we went back and changed anything they changed while they were at the bakery. These dumb bastards just don't want to know? Equipment and engineering department are the main problems in all bakeries, but do they really want to know? When equipment don't run right day after day after day , then the product will not be right, but to go out and blame all the problems on the production department. Why do the Engineering departments get a free pass? None of these dumb bastards could work at Jiffy Lube, yet we pay them over $22.00 an hour to sit around and smoke.

Hobbs is a perfect example of how well ESL ( extended shelf life) works, that antique MF should have been in the ground ages ago SAME IDOITS SAME FUCKED UP MANAGEMENT! CLOSE THEM ALL DOWN AND DO THE CONSUMER A FAVOR

For the cocksuckers on this board that think that there's a lot of people with a bad & rotten attitude, well you are right. There's probably thousands of employees like this - why do you think that is? How does that old adage goes? - "Attitudes are just a reflection of leadership" Well Jung? I guess you suck at being a leader! A few thousand employees couldn't be wrong!

Well Dung are things going like you planned or do you have your thumb up your ass??

Just by word of mouth alone I have personally got fifteen people to switch from hostess to little Debbie or the donut shop in one week. Ok, five are family members but what the hell. Ten just by talking to them explaining what the company did to its people and what it is trying to do . What a piece of shit its board members and Dung are. Its easy try it.

THIS IS A LITTLE NOTE TO ALL YOU POOR PEOPLE STILL EMPLOYED BY I.B.C. GET A LIFE BECAUSE YOUR CAREER HERE IS FINISHED. DO LIKE ALOT OF US DID AND GET THE HELL OUT....YOUR ON A SINKING SHIP ....BAIL OUT NOW BEFORE THEY FUCK YOU OVER SOME MORE....GOOD LUCK & HAPPY HOLIDAYS.................................AND FOR YOU MR. CHUNG FUCK YOU ASS HOLE

2008 promises to be the best year in a long time. Thank you for laying me off in Oct Mr.Dung. Its all good now. I mean that no sarcasm.

And don't forget about all the kick backs they get from the snake oil salesman.

These Idiots would stop at nothing for cheaper products! even safety for the American consumer.

I remember asbestos being a problem in the twinkies in some plants, I wonder what a chemical analysis would turn up in todays I.B.C. products? Another god Idea.

Got my first severance check from the company. I was a salaried Supervisor. So far life is good not working spending some quality time with my familia and receiving a paycheck every week for the next 4 months. I know some will respond with why don't I get a job? The answer is company will stop severance payment if I get another job, this is part of the severance package.

Murphy and Hobbs and the rest of his boys would buy into any and all miricle pills or ingredients from any snake oil salesman who said you could reduce Vital Wheat or add Water or add this ESL powder and you can leave it on the market until its gummy. Forget about it tasting like bread or anyother bakery item. They would get blinded by the promise of all the money they would be saving due to reducing ingredients that gave the bread body, structure, and taste. The Boys would sit around and pat each other on the back bosting how much money would be saved over the year, not taking into account as the consumer felt the product was lacking in taste and structure and sales declined along with consumer dissatisfaction. Give the consumer a quality product and they will come back for more but reduce the quality and see how fast those savings go away. when will the savings show up on the financial reports due to SoCal closing? Or was this another idea that should have been debated before acting upon? You idiots in Kansas City just don't get it do you. You should all be embarrassed to still be sitting in your positions.

If the Pomona plant is baking product,... What the fuck are you doing wasting your time posting on this site? If I was out of work and product was being baked for Sullivan's Veteran's Administration contract and send to the freezer from my plant?.....I'd make sure of my facts and take action!!!! Why hasn't your union local hired a P.I.? or just do it yourself! I remember one strike,,,,,, never mind. Just Fucking do something!

Motion Denied Sorry IBC

E-OX tablets, cut the sugar, And add more water. Gluten cost to much, Murphy will look bad. And don't forget cut the weight from 24oz. down to 20oz. We can fool the consumer.

Maybe we could make drywall with all of our hog feed to cut our loss. It could be used in damp places due to the fact it does not mold.

RE: FORMULAS .............We are not talking about taste now we just want something that will fill a 24.oz bag and look halfway like something edible screw taste that costs money ADD WATER CUT MIX problem solved NO VITAL WHEAT GLUTEN or any of that expensive shit

Interstate Bakeries Corp. sustained a loss of $39,161,000 in the second quarter ended Nov. 17, which compared with a loss of $26,285,000 in the same period a year earlier. Net sales in the second quarter were $645,116,000, down 4% from $671,913,000 in the second quarter of fiscal 2007. The company sustained an operating loss of $16,746,000 in the period, which compared with a loss of $6,751,000 in the second quarter a year ago. The most recent results included approximately $7.9 million for restructuring activities. The quarterly report was filed Dec. 20 by I.B.C. with the Securities and Exchange Commission, and came a week after the International Brotherhood of Teamsters and Yucaipa Cos. L.L.C. submitted a preliminary bid to bring Kansas City-based I.B.C. out of bankruptcy under control of Yucaipa, an investment firm. I.B.C. subsequently called the bid "unqualified," and earlier this week asked the U.S. Bankruptcy Court to force Yucaipa Cos. to fill in details of its offer. In reporting its most recent results, I.B.C. said its route sales, formerly known as wholesale operations, were $555,257,000 in the second quarter, down 5% from $581,775,000 in the same period a year ago. The decline reflected the company’s exit from the bread market in Southern California on Oct. 20, as well as unit volume declines. "Our sales decreases also were the result of reduced demand for our products principally related to price increases, depth and frequency of our promotional activities, and the effects of a highly competitive market," the company said. "These decreases were partially offset by an overall unit value increase for the quarter and year-to-date related to our strategic price increases and product mix changes."

O and do we still get our dolly checks?

You know what i wonder....I wonder how craig and company would have done if they didnt inherit such a mess.

Formula.... just threw out a loaf ole fashion that was dated 11-15-07. whats really wierd is that it did'nt have any mold . I guess Gene and George, along with this cutting edge technology, by using mostly mold inhibitors and ingredients that are commonly used to make sheet rock, they 're taking ESL to new level.

OK, So you called Gene Murphy and now you paid the price. Si what did you all do? You just forgot about it and that was the end?Name: please don't retaliate Date: 2007-12-21 Location: Location:Sacramento, CA Comment: You Booneville people are dense beyond words. That’s your best comment; call Gene Murphy? What do you think happened last time we said anything? Our ignorant-fat-ass-poor-excuse of-a-plant-manager did say something about it and we wound up paying the price. They made us look and feel like a bunch of incompetent assholes.

The judge is gonna laugh ibc out of court. it's like I BUY your truck and you telling me how and where to drive it. What a JOKE

Re: Formulas.........what is the cheapest ingredient bread? WATER ITS DAMN NEAR FREE....... So in otherwords if something is lacking taste add or take away water? That will fix it? NOT.

You Booneville people are dense beyond words. That’s your best comment; call Gene Murphy? What do you think happened last time we said anything? Our ignorant-fat-ass-poor-excuse of-a-plant-manager did say something about it and we wound up paying the price. They made us look and feel like a bunch of incompetent assholes.

They are using transports to haul equipment to Henderson and the smell of fresh bread outside the Pomona plant is an aromatic dilussion like hearing voices that say we are going to open the SoCal plants back up........

Re: Formulas.........what is the cheapest ingredient bread? WATER ITS DAMN NEAR FREE.......GENE MURPHY and PINTO are on the cost cutting edge BRAVO!!!!!!!!!! we are on the way to turning this company around with knowledgeable management such as these 2

You have complaints about QUALITY. Give a call to Gene Murphy and ask him why is he changing the formulas again. Don't blame it on the bakers they only follow orders from head quarters. Once again call Gene Murphy .Name: please don't retaliate Date: 2007-12-21 Location: Location:Sacramento, CA Comment: They want premium quality bread out of these watered-down formulas and god help you if you say anything. You will be branded as incompetent and as having a negative attitude. Besides, no-one has time to really "bake" anymore; we're all too busy doing all these fucking audits and checksheets. We don't "bake" we do clerical work instead. Am I the smartest person in this company to have figure this out? Watered down formulas + no time to apply our art = poor sales.

america is getting worse and that goes for the whole world economy.pay off your house if you can and your cars and cards. get ready for the devil to put us all out of work.................

january 03 is the deadline for yucaipa to reveal detail of their bid or else, they will not be able to involve with this case any further.

They want premium quality bread out of these watered-down formulas and god help you if you say anything. You will be branded as incompetent and as having a negative attitude. Besides, no-one has time to really "bake" anymore; we're all too busy doing all these fucking audits and checksheets. We don't "bake" we do clerical work instead. Am I the smartest person in this company to have figure this out? Watered down formulas + no time to apply our art = poor sales.

All I can say is what a disappointment IBC turned out to be!!

All formulas have been cheapened down, it may look like a loaf of bread , but it sure doesn't taste the same. They are trying to use cheap lesser quality ingredients remember we are in bankruptcy. Instead of producing a quality tasting loaf we try to make it only look like a quality loaf. When they have there taste test back in Kansas City no one want to be the one to say this taste bad, otherwise you are the one with the bad attitude, so you agree or go along with everyone else and agree.

RE: Van Diesl-- The answer at the Pomona bakery is easy.Santa is trying to conserve enery. He leased out the Pomona Plant. Got a real good deal on it too!

Originally when Kansas City made us cheapen our formulas, I voiced my concern that we were having difficulties making a good quality product. In return, Murphy came down with a task force of his cronies and butt raped me and my managers for a solid two weeks.

Yes! Bad things fall upon it! VERY NICE! I'll call a friend who just happens to be a witch.

I LOVE TO HATE THIS COMPANY !!!!!!! And I wish only bad things to fall upon it.

that's what I've been saying u got to fix what's in the bag and not worry how cheap to get it to the market I think the people in the bakery just don't give a fuck and they surely have fucked with the recipies deformed bread goes moldy in 2 days burnt buns hot dog buns that fall apart rock hard bread fix what's in bag then we can sell more get back our resturants that we lost then talk about concessions and path to lose the market it common sense not rocket science guys

some one cares I tell my customers the truth . I say the company was run down by a Hand full of Idiots. They are holding on by the skin of there teeth. And we will be bought out soon “hopefully’’ And things will get better when I.B.C. is gone.

To Some One cares, , If you think the bread is really bad, call Gene Murphy in Kansas City. He's the one that changed the formulas to make them as cheap as possible to save money. Even Jeff Jernigan thinks he's an idiot for doing this, our bread stinks now.

i really don,t want to say my name cause i don, t want you to hold a grudge. the bread is bad i have so many people coming up to me and ask me about the bread. what the world am i suppose to say cause it,s hard as a rock. and we have a superviser pushes the bread like crazy . i,m out here to make money not for my health. why don,t some one come around and talk to us and let us know what going on. there is alot of us that can make money for the company but it don,t seem like you all don,t want us to.just like when you are putting the dolly diret out all i,m doing is competing with my self what you all said at first you where going after little debbie. but that not the case cause when you are putting out the same thing as i do what am i suppose to think. this is what all the employees are thinking just ask maybe not everybody will tell you the truth but this is it

ext till june cause there court cases schedule till may also ibc is trying to force burkle judge has not made them they r actively recriuting other bakeing companys to get involved to run bakeries and manage company when burkle cleans house when and if judge forces there hand that's when fireworks begin dirty otherwise have to wait till jan 15 to see who is dealing with can u say outsource american company

I WAS LAID OFF ON OCTOBER 27TH THIS YEAR ALONG WITH 1300 OFF MY TEAMSTER BROTHER AND SISTERS FROM SO. CAL. BECAUSE IBC SUPPOSEDLY CLOSED THE BREAD OPERATION HERE. THANK GOODNESS I HAVE FINALLY FOUND ANOTHER JOB . HOWEVER ONE OF MY NEW HIRE FRIENDS AT THE COMPANY I WORK FOR NOW ALSO WORKS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE POMONA BAKERY AND HE TELLS ME HE STILL SMELLS BREAD BEING BAKED THERE. AND NOW TODAY WHILE I AM RIDING A ROUTE WITH MY TRAINER I SEE A "MILLBROOK" TRUCK DRIVING AROUND IN SAN BERNARDINO. IS THE BREAD OPERATION SHUT DOWN IN SO. CAL. OR NOT ? IT WOULD SEEM TO ME MAYBE NOT . I'M GLAD I'M FINALLY OUT OF THAT MESS BUT IF THE COMPANY IS PULLING MORE OF THEIR BULLSHIT ALL OF YOU WHO WANT TO GO BACK MAYBE SHOULD SEE WHATS REALLY HAPPENING THERE AT THE POMONA BAKERY... I'M TOLD THE PARKING LOT IS ALWAYS FULL ! WHATS REALLY HAPPENING. " HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL MY LAID OFF FRIENDS "

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to anon in columbus get off boonvilles dick man your like a gay pornstar with him cumming out of your mouth!!!!!!!!!!

i want to put in my two cents. i dont give this company any hope of survival.

Name: Anonymous Date: 2007-12-20 Location: Location:Denver, CO Comment: decatur, everyone knows about the extension, where did you hear about forcing disclosure? are you spreading bullshit like boonville? /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////Boonville wasn't spreading "shit". He's been right on a LOT of the things he posted here. He DID say TWO WEEKS before Bimbo announced they weren't "in" that Bimbo wasn't in. Interesting "fact": as part of the BK process, the "plan" is supposed to be posted...where is the Teamsters' plan??? Nowhere to be found. By the way....Yucapia/Teansters had until DEC 13 to file their "plan". What you see is what you get......not very surprising from the Teamsters, huh? BTW, what are "significant concessions"?

OK, Bimbo pulled out, no support there. Teamsters and Yukaipa submit incomplete proposal, no surprise there given that teamsters are involved. So geniuses, if the teamsters and Yukaipa are successful, just who is going to run the everyday operation if all of the current management is canned like all of you dopes want? Maybe a consortium of teamster bakery business agents who know all about the bakery business. Maybe the same ones who suggested that buying new trucks to improve morale would help save the company. The teamsters and Yukaipa do not have a chance without a business plan, including who is going to manage the affairs of the business. That might end up being someone appointed by Jung - like Kafore

decatur, everyone knows about the extension, where did you hear about forcing disclosure? are you spreading bullshit like boonville?

is yucaipa going to submit a final bid? so far there's nothing. Only 4 more weeks for the other bidders to submit their bids, and that does not exclude holidays. if no bid by yucaipa, then these other bidders need to negotiate with teamsters. It takes management more than 4 months to negotiate with teamsters but still couldn't reach agreement, then how can it be possible for other bidders to obtain agreement with teamster in just less than 4 weeks? not only that, there are multiple bidders, therefore multiple negotiations with teamsters needed. The company is very silent about this. they haven't demand yucaipa to reveal details of their agreement. It looks like the other bidders don't need to negotiate with teamsters. So their business plans don't need concessions from teamsters? Independent distributorship?

OK IBC GOT EXTENSION ON FINANCING TILL JUNE 2. TRING TO FORCE DISCLOSIER BETWEEN IBT AND YUCAIPA. THATS THE NEWS

what happened to boonville? he's been gone since jamaica forced him back to the cave where he came from. come on booville, give us more of your bullshit. Eventhough they are not true but still very entertaining for our darkest hours.

I'm blond, dumb as a rock and I run the HR dept. they call me Rachel

IBC is in BANKRUPCTY!! You are not supposed to have Distribution Foreman's meetings at midnite paying a bunch of overtime and night premium pay to have a talk! Paper is much cheaper. You were fired from your previous jobs and this display of mismanagement is why!! Thanks for continuing to run us down!! Idiots!! I'm sure all those Foreman are laughing all the way to the bank!!

Fuck Boonville You ain't a fly on IBC" ass

Let me put my 2 cents in: I HATE JIM BROCK

May this year you win the lottery so you can retire

It sent wessley a nice e-mail telling him what fucked up manegers this company has. And that he should not buy our products or support this company in any way untill we are bought.