I remember in the 90's when Willig Freight asked for concessions and the employees gave in. A few months later= How many Willig Drivers did we employ in 96?? No matter if we give, our fate will not change.

Why is Kramer look so happy for? Did he finally get what he had wished for?

I am calling in sick tommorrow, shit I will more than likely not even show up. I say we all head down the 15 and hit havasu! i say we let that fat piece of shit Jumbo Joe Tragressor worry about it. Who's with me? Its not like they're gonna threaten us with what, firing us?

I left IBC about 1 1/2 years ago. It was scary, but I am MUCH happier now. I work less, have much less stress, make the same money, sleep 8 hours a night ,and have a life outside of work. I know the future looks uncertain, but there are a lot of other, better, jobs out there. Most of you have happier days coming, whether you leave on your own or not. Losing your IBC job may be the best for you in the long run, even it it is hard to see it that way right now.

First off , my name is Jung. Not Dung. Thats the same bullshit I had to put up with in school, but you know what ? While you assholes were busy making jokes and laughing, I was paying attention and doing my homework. While you dicks were out drinking beer on sat. night and geting your girlfriends pregant. Were was I . Nose cramed in a book , ya what dork you are Dung ! Ha ha ha, real funny . Whose laughing now ?? I just fired all you friggin idiots. Kiss my dung encrusted ass !

What’s up with the Tom Scot innuendos?? You trying to say he’s Gay? Who doesn’t know that? Big fucking deal . The companies itself is on its way out for good. Is also Pulling bread out of our market area and all can do is make Tom Scot gay comments?

One thing I know I’m going to have some fun these last weeks . Pluses to my route.= F.U.! Over time?= You bet your ass. Displays? = Who you talking to? I’m cutting off all the bull shit.= Bakers Inn, light breads ,most buns and dogs, Milbrook crack and 100%.= main line for me baby I’m not busting my ass any more for these ass-fucks. Hey Sara lee here have some of my space we wont be needing it any way. SHUT HER DOWN BOYS!!

to rerun or re wrap in St. Louis - whatever you call yourself, I've worked for Wonder Bread in the central part of the country for nearly 30 years and you aren't fooling anyone with that B.S you are putting out. That bakery is and has been a piece of shit for at least as long as I have worked for them and probaly much longer. As far making money you couldn't buy a decent car with the money that has been made there compared to all that has been lost over the years. That would have been the first of the old piece of shit places I would have closed and Memphis and Denver wouldn't be far behind.

I am so ready to leave this piece of shit company. Been here so long forgot what life was all about. I am looking forward to moving on. I think in a year from now most of you will be so much happier. Good luck guys . Learn to enjoy life again. Thanks I.B.C For closing us down . SUT HER DOWN BOYS!!!!

Hey Steve B you big piece of shit. You are obviously a dumb ass ,relative got you the management job pecker head. You try to go to bed before your children . Your wife has to make them be quiet because you have to get up at 1:00 in the morning to get to work by two. Now 10:30 is a good day that’s a light day when all went well. Most are 11:30 12:00. Oh and that’s with no lunch. The company makes you pretend to take a lunch in the first five hours BUT WHO CAN DO THAT AND MAKE THERE TIME STOPS. Sure 10:30 sounds easy when you clock in at 6 or 7. Do the Math dip-shit!

if you believe the company treat you badly, then you should leave. No one ever force anyone to work for IBC. You stay eventhough you said management treat employees without respect show either one of two things: management did not treat you as bad as you claim or you do not have the skill or education to find a better job. either way, things have changed now. either accept lower wage or leave if you can find better job somewhere else.

jim brock is a joke. never met his brother.

The unions are at fault??? Maybe IBC should have treated their employees with even the smallest amount of respect and fairness and the unions would not have been necessary. Maybe IBC should have operated within state and federal laws, not to mention standard business ethics, and the unions would not have been necessary. Maybe IBC should have had a long term, progressive, business plan, instead of their short term crisis- management approach, and the unions would not have been necessary. Unions were created because of, and to protect the employees from, unethical, untrustworthy, companies like IBC. IBC created a situation where the union was absolutely necessary to protect the workers. Did the union make IBC hire incompetent yes-men as management? Did the union make IBC cook the books all of those years to cover up their failures as management? Did the union make IBC treat their employees as disposable product rather than people? I worked for IBC for twenty years before I got out. I would work 12-15 hour days in a broken down metal truck in 105 degree heat (trying to sell chocolate, no less). My superiors, for the most part, were incompetent. The only reason that they were promoted was because they needed the money so badly, that they would put up with abuse that most normal people would not. I was told to sell over-priced, poor quality product. If I could sell 100 units of an item, then I was given 200 units, and told to bring back and throw away the 100 that would not sell. I was lied to and threatened regularly. I got up at 1:00 AM, worked 12-15 hours, never got enough sleep, and never got weekends off. And this was all WITH the union. I cannot imagine what working conditions would have been without the union! IBC management is to blame for this mess, and no one else. They have mis-managed every aspect of their business, including their employee/union relations. The unions have ALWAYS been in a defensive posture with IBC, always reacting to and defending against the companies actions. It has never been the other way around. The unions are far from perfect, and there is plenty of blame to pass around, but to try and blame anyone but IBC management for this fiasco, is laughable.

Good luck henderson, Jim has aready sealed your fate a while back with his ass hole management ways. he is a back stabber get rid of anyone with brains and keep the lazy ones with no brain so no one will say anything. yea good going grovener lets see how you do on unemployment

Jim Brock, Sorry to hear you have had no luck in finding a new job. I would have thought with all those resumes out there you would find something. Have you tried security guard or night stocker at Wal Mart? I think these jobs would fit your skills well. We all worry about you. There isn't a day that goes by that someone doesn"t make a joke about you or your brother Lonnie. Has Lonnie had any luck with his search? Please come back to Omaha we all need a good laugh.

to Tom Scot in Glendale. Is that Tom Scot of Tom & Scot?

Time is almost gone in the fourth quarter. Nothing has worked to turn your team around. Defeat seems certain. Your quaterback throws a desperation pass into the end zone. The ball is up for grabs, and it would take a miracle for the play to work, but it is your only hope. In football this is called a Hail Mary pass. In the baking industry, this is called path-to-market delivery system.

To Full Grill, here's looking at your tail lights! Good luck on your new adventure. Hope ya don't end up in a doublewide sleeper with some hang belly co-driver! We'll remember you till about tomorrow, then it's Grill? Grill who? Or you'll come up when we all stand around and bullshit about past drivers! Remember when Grill did............Grill who? See ya on the road! Good Luck!

Hey lets all be honest about this. Everyone seems to be doing alot of fingerpointing. We all played a roll in this mess. The company has pulled some real bone head moves. The union protects the rebal assholes that feel a need to stir up shit and not just simply do your job. Ya, look where fuck them ,they'll pay with overtime and a shitty job performence got us ???? Good luck in the real world

FINALLY THE TIMES HAS COME... FOR THE WORKERS COMP DEPT. IN SD. DING DONG THE b$!@*TCHES ARE GONE!!!!!

be aware Henderson Jim Grovener is sell you guy out , you'll be next so start looking

Don't like the wage than start looking elsewhere....my question is the union keeps giving itself a hike whenever you get a raise. Will it take a union due deduction when my wages are cut?

jung, if you want my plant. you or the company thats going to buy it will have to pay a premium for it. our plant makes money, we know it. we have a great work force in the lou. so if you or the new owners, still would like to make a profit from this site. leave this area alone, benefits and all. or it won't be profitable at all. work on your weakess links. you can replace the mgt. from the floor to the office, their very sad example of mgt.

Why in the world would you preach that you would only get half the wages you make now? tsk tsk...there is Target, K Mart, Wal Mart distribution centers all over the country that pay as well or better with benefits after your 90 day probation is up. Quit raining on everybody's parade just because you are ckn little the sky is falling the sky is falling. Colgate has a plant over on the east side of town and I heard Aldi's pays 16 an hour for their warehouse folks ...Detroit Diesel....Freight Line....White Motors....you only are limited by yourself as to what is available...county services pays well and you only work from 2 am to noon... don't let your fear of the unknown limit you. There are worlds of companies out there to choose from and they generally have better working conditions than IBC....

Hey IL. quit blaming the union for the position IBC put all of you in. If the over paid management knew what the hell there were doing you would still have a job. The union only trys to give people a better life . Put the blame on who deserves it and that is none only but IBC. Dont be as stuiped in your thought process as they are. Wake up and get out of the dream world

Hey IL. quit blaming the union for the position IBC put all of you in. If the over paid management knew what the hell there were doing you would still have a job. The union only trys to give people a better life . Put the blame on who deserves it and that is none only but IBC. Dont be as stuiped in your thought process as they are. Wake up and get out of the dream world

Hey DTC, go find another fucking job. The off ramp at Watt & I80 is vacant

These boys are ready to play hardball - it'll be their way or the highway - and I know after 3 years of doing nothing, it's harder now to accept the urgency than it would have been 3 years ago when we first entered Chapter 11, but you'll either have jobs and benefits, or you'll draw your unemployment and get medicaid cards for your families (if you can), and pray to God that, in this country that has been completely fucked up and fucked over by Bush, you'll be able to find a job paying half of what you're making now, with benefits that cost more than 10 times what you're paying now, if benefits are offered at all. The union doesn't care about you - they are not the entity allowing you to pay your bills and raise your families. The idea that you should hate your employer in favor of a union is absurb. The union is only there to protect the employees who should lose their jobs, and you all know it. Good, honest, hardworking employees are ignored by the unions until something like this happens - then they turn into a bunch of rabblerousers trying to inflame you to do illogical and harmful things for which only you and yours will pay the price. Grow up. Think about it - long and hard. Turn down the flame, calmly and cooly consider what's being asked of you, and be realistic in your estimation of it.. This is not your father's world, it's a frightening world to be in and be without employment and some form of retirement. Project 60 days down the road - if you're out of work, will the union be there asking what they can do for you?

To movin on: so is it worth more if the company remains independent or been sold?

Hey, Proud Teamster, why don't you ask some of your Teamster execs (by the way the last time we saw some union execs, they had to remove so much in the way of gold and precious gems before they could walk through the bakery, that we almost had to call a Brink's armed guard in to protect the loot) to take a cut in their big salaries and reduce, or suspend, your union dues - you know, give the COMMON FOLK a break. What would you do with that money anyway - you obviously aren't spending it on things you really need - like a dictionary.

Fuck u movin on in S.D. Teamsters are a for profit organozation. They could give a rats ass about any one of us. Thier job is to keep members paying dues. They give us the line about were here to protect you make sure u have the best contract possible. Then they start taking 18$ a month to organize non union companies. I thought that was thier job. Look at all the things we have given back in the last 25 years. We used to have lifetime medical, more vacation time, higher commision. Know that they see the golden goose slipping away they want to play hardball. Screw you teamsters, just get the hell out of the way and let the company decide what is best for the company. Hey Marty Crandall, where the hell are you. How about a little info you loser.

Mr. Jung, in your video you say that it is impairitive that teamsters give in to the consessions or this company will not make it. I understand that the teamsters, bakers and all of us share in this situation. But, don't blame it all on the teamsters and if you really think about it. In your video it was said "IBC has not changed in 40 years" That alone can sink a ship. You expect us to give up some of our livelyhood, what about you and some of the other exec.? Don't you feel guilty for enjoying the "MILLIONS" that you are paid????? Hell, your bonus alone could set me up for the rest of my life. By your appearence, you don't look any different than the rest of us COMMON FOLK. If you and your colleuges really care about this company, then I think its time for you all to renegociate your contract and pay. With the money you execs make you can afford multiple homes while we have to scrape week to week. SO, WHEN YOU PEOPLE ARE READY TO GIVE UP A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR MILLIONS and take home a comperable salary, thats when I'll think about my contribution to this company. I'm a TEAMSTER and proud of it.

All I can say about all the anti-union talk is that I am retired from !BC with a good teamster's pension while all my non union co workers are working till the company closes or they turn 65 whichever comes first.

Rock, Thank you for that post. You're right on. I have been trying to tell guys this for years! People screaming STRIKE! need to realize that the only people buying are stock right now a Hedge funds.. You DO know what a Hedge fund is Right? These people Including Mr Jung know that if the company is closed and sold off that $1.00 Stock will now be worth somewhere around $4.00-5.00 bucks So many investors have an interest in this company closing down. Wake up the Pension is in BIG trouble. The main part of consesions I can almost guarantee is going to have to do with the Pension. Is'nt it nice having 8 years of Republicians in office!! And for all you TEAMSTERS who voted Republician.. you did this to yourselves... Only the Democrats support unions! I know many many Teamsters that voted for Bush! I you are a teamster it is YOUR Obligation to vote Democrat.. Why would you vote for someone that wants to Fuck You??

HOW EXCITING. MY LAST DAY! ON TO NEW ADVENTURES.

Let’s talk about the Pensions being under-funded. This has nothing to do with IBC's contribution- it really all comes down to the boys at the IRS determining what the Rate of Return that should have been received for the year and the fact that they would not allow firms to continue to contribute when they were in an over-funded situation. That is why there are new laws covering pension contributions going forward and all firms and related pensions must be fully funded again by 2012 Also the facts (read the lawsuits) of how many pensions were mis-managed or raided by your own union management. How many pension plans failed and the government forced companies, (including IBC), to re-contribute to the failed fund even if they had nothing to do with its failure, (check out the North Carolina locals). Then bring on the past when the stocks had all tanked and no one was making money in the market the funds could not keep up with the expected rate of return (again determined by the IRS Actuaries). You all do know if you put 10 Actuaries in a room and ask them to review an account the results will 10 differing opinions so far from each other it is actually scary. And finally, your own big bosses within the Unions are also covering their own tails and do not care about you unless you forget to pay your dues - why else do you think they demand that your annual dues are withheld from your weekly pay check - they do not trust you to pay it on your own - so in other words they do not care about the actual member or his/her future. They live in $1 million homes with gates to keep you out and have personal drivers (body guards) and you live in an $80k shack and ride the bus to work. So you have no one to blame but yourselves. The Unions were a good thing when my Grandfather/Father were your (during the Depression) – now thanks to all of the laws in place to protect the actual worker the American Union no longer serves a purpose other than to force Companies trying to earn a profit to either leave the Country (i.e. head to Mexico) or shift to automation and eliminate the actual human body thus reducing the amount of wages and benefits that it has to pay. Now let the trashing begin – since the majority of the union members will read this and think that I am bashing them – which is not true I am just stating real facts. When in fact I feel very sorry for all of you who are losing your livelihood, I have been there and the stress of trying to figure out how to pay the monthly bills and still provide food for the kids – Mom and Dad can and do – do without to ensure that the kids are taken care of (at least the majority of you will do this, unfortunately there are others who will do the opposite). I know that those who are hard driven will find new jobs and move on. My only opinion of the unions is why should I work off my tail to better myself and then have to pay (dues) to someone else who gets to decide when I work (Strike or Walk-outs) and God forbid I perform a function that is not specifically within my job description. And no matter how hard I work I get the same pay increase of the guy sitting next to me who only does the minimum if he even shows up for work. The Union’s job is protect the worst employee not help the better ones succeed. Sorry guys I refuse to work like sheep and be lead around by a Shepard. So No I will never work or belong to a Union – I grew up and became my own Man – and I am doing quite well on my own.

1970 to 1990's Mgmt in training can screw up a mgr's good name in the time it takes you to go on vacation. Take Recv'ing...keeping track of ingredients and such...go on vacation and come back to a fubar. Plt mgr who doesn't like you because you are not from the same religion as him. He quite bluntly puts it that way. Sees this as a great opportunity to finally get rid of you. Calls in the internal auditors. Who by the way are fresh out of college...do not have a clue what company procedures are and have to run to the plant manager for direction all the time. Come up with the "aha" ....you never had a chance. And the dept heads that knew weren't going to speak up in your defense because they wanted to keep their jobs. But this plant mgr gets a "letter" informing him of all the good people he run off in the the entire plant...he goes on a ramphage and dreams up who wrote it and starts precuting them. They haven't a clue what the hell the man is ranting and ranting on and on about. He won't even let you see this letter of evidence but he makes sure from that point on that he can retaliate by trashing your good name into the ground on and on and on. One lie after another and all the rest of mgmtl climb on board and start their own little lies and stories....on and on and on....after all they still want to work for the asshole.....and then even after that plant manager leaves another comes on board he gets to lie about you too...his revenge for your misfortune of being related to someone he doesn't like. But by God I came here to work for my family's well being and mgrs can make up all the lies they want to I lasted through several assholes I will survive through more. Souless you can go screw yourself.

It saddens the hourly worker that IBC according to our Union reps are in violation of ERISA, by not paying what IBC owes for pension funds across the country. If this true why hasn't the feds been sic'd on them by the union. Why hasn't the BK judge said to take some of that 200 some million that IBC mgmt brags about as not having to have needed to touch it yet and pay up their debt for the working stiff. IF IBC mgmt had not been such asses back in the 70's they never would have seen unions come on board. Speaking of defined pension plans, it wasn't IBC good mgmt that pulled their collective arses out of it but the "overfunded" pension of their own mgmt back in the 70 - 80's that IBC raided to buy the company solvent again. Yep those were the good old days for mgmt weren't they. Someone who put in 30 years was told their pension was worth a thousand for every year they worked. That way they would have to continue working for the company as indentured slaves until they felt their pension was built back up. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha . Never saw it build back up. I think those mgmt fellows could have filed a class action against their own company but.......rah rah hiss boom bah...idiots stayed.

FUCK YOU in Decatur We have NEVER been united as a union everyone here has always stabbed each other in the back and this starts from the union reps down to to bottom hourly guys

FUCK YOU in Decatur We have NEVER been united as a union everyone here has always stabbed each other in the back and this starts from the union reps down to to bottom hourly guys

hey jim grovener you still selling out Henderson and they dont know it yet. dont worry theyll catch on quick

hey jim grovener you still selling out Henderson and they dont know it yet. dont worry theyll catch on quick

Costs of living goes up, wages go down what the hell is one to do? Guess I could just work 24/7 at a lesser paying job to pay my bills and my bills are in no way living beyond my means! Home $1200, car $350, insurance, gas, power, phone, food, nothing much more than that other than the dental bill I have cause my insurance didn't pay what it use to and this job doesn't cover that already and you want more? Ok, I'll stop eating and turn my ac off!

I've been at HODGKINS for close to two decades now as a member of the BCTGM. Model bakery-we weren't even close, not that long ago, people in our plant have busted their ASSES to turn our bakery around! We cut down accidents, down-time and cripples. The "new" form of management here, cleaned and organized some of the departments in our plant, they're not done with it yet. So an how it will affect operations overall is not known. So, don't get pissed off about hearing about us-we earned it. Many of us, if not all, feel it's unfair for Corp. to ask for concessions from any of us (IBT, BCTGM) when they are still getting bonuses, raises, and are spending money as fast as they get it on stupid shit we don't need. We CAN and DO MAKE MONEY AT HODGKINS, under present working agreements with the company. So. Cal. sorry for the news, but an inter-office memo we seen had you guys on the fence since June of 06. Low profit zone-you guys should have made tortillas(not trying to be funny or crude). Kudos to Corp. for waiting till now to unleash this, knowing it would have a ripple effect throughout the company, scare tactics at it's finest. Nice of Corp. to wait three years to submit a reorganization plan also, what the hell were they paying Alverez for? Now they want us to pay for their managerial BLUNDERS, before the banks dismantel the company. BCTGM Local 1 meets 9-14-07, we are supposed to be able to VOTE this time if we are taking company concessions. We are hearing $2 an hour pay cut and additional weekly insurance deductions. You might say at least it's better than losing your job, but anyone living in a major metropolitan area knows we can't afford this, I will cast a vote against accepting this. I hope my fellow members will do the same.

Hey Sacramento, "whinnning when your under 10k", that's for the month! Just like MC in Pomona said, you guys all want to go home early on down days! Your loads suck on Fridays and Saturdays, Tuesdays too! You only order on Mondays and Thursdays. So you only work 2 days a week! The rest of the time you beat your transports home! Mom goes shopping on the weekend if you didn't know it! She buys someone else's product cause ours isn't there! She buys fufu breads, not white bread! Go boost somewhere else about 10k, cause you route salesman suck! 10k in stale! Reclassify you as Stalesman! Drive your $80,000 Benz home with your trunk full of bread is the only way you can do 10k. Talk your shit delivery boy! Your next!

New info out is no more Bakers Inn bread in Albertsons October 1 and no more Kirkland in Costco around end of September too?

Hey IBC, keep up with the times! We need tortillas!!

We don't want to call in sick. We like our jobs. Keep your cancer on the wet coast we need our money.

IBC stick it in your a** ! STRIKE !STRIKE ! BOYCOT. AFL-CIO we need your help.

Hey Pomona, at least we still have a job. So go pound the old lady.

my if some you whiners would take lessons from the RSR'rs sacto & north you would know how the pros do it .great people do great things. the last whining we did is when our loads where under 10K

KING KONG PHILLY, What rock did you crwl out from under, You Teamster prima- donnas have been making more than all of us for years. I think my loyalty is to my family, not some delivery boy that takes out their smallest load on Saturday. You got know one to blame but yourselves. Saturday sales was once the biggest day of the week but you all wanted back into the barn by 10:00. Pound your chest all you want I for one will not support your slacking ass any longer

Lets all have a 3 day weekend....call in sick on Saturday....we'll deal with the cake and bread on Tuesday, like leave it on the dock....shut this mother fucker down!!!!!

No severance with plant closing is what I understand

This is live or die for the Teamsters. If they lose this one and our gov. lets those fucking mexican trucks in on Saturday. Who will be next? STRIKE STRIKE STRIKE!!!!

hey so cal, did IBC offer a severance package to you guys. please let me know i am out here in denver and it bad out here too. we have this same piss poor managers that have know idea about running a business. thanks brock see u in the unemployed line ass hole.

They still don't got the guts to close JAMAICA!!!! EAT ME

LETS SHUT THIS MOTHER DOWN, WE GOT THE POWER!!! TEAMSTER 4EVER.

Hey Tony Chavez cant wait to see your suck ass out of a job . you were nothing but a slime ball suck ass . You kissed so much ass your lips are swollen

Watch out Henderson your next no one will drive your buns or bread into cal. and always remember to ~Thank Jim Grovener for stabbing everyone in the back. What pond scum he is

United We Stand, United We Fall, Once and For All.

Name: Anonymous Date: 2007-08-31 Location: Location:Pomona, CA Comment: fuck both of you inbred, red neck southern fucks. I got some big beans you and your mama's can suck on! About 57 more days you won't have any beans. Lawsuit happy ass bitches

Just food for thought............you guys should pay attention to the posts from the Emporia and Hodgkins bakeries. They are the "model" bakeries and can do no wrong. They are the wave of the future

King Kong - last time I checked the Union didn't get you crap. Your hard work earned you what you have and IBC wrote the check

King kong, I hope the rest of our Teamster brothers and sisters feel the same way because the shit is going to hit the fan real soon. Lets shut this mother fucker down!!!!

This is one time I really hate to say " you guys really blew it this time "

I just rolled over in my grave !

I am not a kling-on. I have never been a kling-on.

I don't know where you guys get your info Husband is in management and hasn't had raise or bonus since way before bankruptcy. If you guys are making 60k he needs to switch jobs

I thought of some of you lazy asses when I read this Welfare Check! A Guy walked into the local welfare office to pick up his check. He marched straight up to the counter and said, 'Hi. You know, I just HATE drawing welfare. I'd really rather have a job.' The social worker behind the counter said, 'Your timing is excellent. We just got a job opening from a very wealthy old man who wants a chauffeur and bodyguard for his beautiful daughter. You'll have to drive around in his Mercedes, and he'll supply all of your clothes. Because of the long hours, meals will be provided. You'll be expected to escort the daughter on her overseas holiday trips and you will have to satisfy her sexual urges. You'll be provided a two-bedroom apartment above the garage. The salary is $200,000 a year.' The guy, wide-eyed, said, 'You're bullshittin' me!' The social worker said, 'Yeah, well . . . . you started it.

Route sales in SoCal do, easily. Costco & Sam's route make way more.

Wally -wolrd. I would like to know who the hell here makes $60 thous a year as a grunt. You'd have to put in a hell of a lot of Overtime. Don't need a life.......live just to work instead of working to live.

fuck both of you inbred, red neck southern fucks. I got some big beans you and your mama's can suck on!

You guys are pathetic, the funny thing is with my experience I will not have a problem getting another job. I will probably even get paid more. Drivers will probably not have a problem getting a job - definately not paying as much or as good of benefits. The people I feel sorry for (at least SOME of them) are the bakers. Get used to seeing 1/2 the pay check you currently get. I will move on, I will succeed. Good luck.

I do not see hard numbers. Wages per location per department. So how can someone in the midwest only getting $12 an hour feel sorry for someone getting $18 an hour and is asked to take a pay cut. Until someone starts posting their base per hour from all across the US how do we know what we should be "holding out for" or sigh and take a hit. I bet the Union reps know exactly who gets what where but they have not coughed up anything

1300 is nothing compared to the 10000 they would be risking…they won’t do it…they need the dues and they have much bigger fish to fry…

Um…yeah…King Kong…that is precisely what Jung wants. They simply can’t afford the type of quality worker that you and I are and they are not going to pay for us anymore…period. If we are not profitable now…wait for another year and watch what happens. Home Pride will be destroyed and well…you can imagine…it’s over…time to move on...

HEY wally-world GIVE IT A REST

for sale: 1 used & abused whore of a wife, who's actually my half sister, 2 bedroom four-wide mobile home, 1982 Chevy truck, 1978 brady bunch stationwagon, set of dentures, my GED certifimication from my 6th grade edumacation.....

i hope the teamsters take a serious stance here,we the employees 10,000 are ready to strike ,what have we got to lose.ibc wants to fuk around lets take the whole company down w/ us,if everyone stands together we can cripple this company.im not taking a pay cut (because management is getting raises)fuk u,we can all find another job ,let them spend all this money ,and then lets fight and take em down united we stand >>let this be a teamster fight that goes down in history.we live in america>and mr. jung u r taking swings at lady liberty and we will ship your ass back where it belongs>>>retirement we need to stand strong,1300 out of jobs>>>>we need to stand up to this bullying>>>>and if we all strike ,all this invested money will be wasted and craig jung will be to blame..YOU have awakended >>>>>KING KONG>>>>>we must stand and fight no matter the outcomethis is what unions have been doing for years>>>lets not throw in the towel>>>>WE MUST MAKE THIS STAND IF UNIONS ARE TO SURVIVE.IF YOU DONT LIKE BIENG A TEAMSTER,GIVE BACK YOUR VACATION,BENEFITS,EVERYTHING WE TEAMSTERS HAVE WORKED FOR AND PUT YOUR TAIL BETWEEN YOUR LEGS AND CRAWL IN A HOLE SOMEWHERE>>>>OTHERWISE BE A REAL MAN OR WOMAN AND STAND UP IN SUPPORT OF THE UNION THAT HELPED YOU GET YOUR HOUSE ,PUT YOUR KIDS IN COLLEGE,EARN DECENT PAY FOR A DAYS WORK,FOR EVERY CONCESSION ASKED FOR WE SHOULD ASK FOR SOMETHING IN RETURN.(AND FOR ALL U DUMB FUKS WHO SAY BE LUCKY TO HAVE A JOB>>>THIS IS A TEAMSTER JOB AND DONT FORGET IT.STAND UP LIKE A MAN OR WOMAN AND ACT LIKE A TEAMSTER ,FIGHT TO THE END FOR A FAIR>>I REPEAT FAIR CONTRACT.LETS NOT BE BULLIED .AND TO ALL IN SO CAL YOU WILL BE IN OUR HEARTS AND PRAYERS.AND BY THE REST OF US STANDING OUR GROUND YOUR PLIGHT WILL NOT BE TOTALLY IN VAIN.KING KONG AND THE TEAMSTERS UNITED WE STAND TOGETHER WE PREVAIL.

Beaner Counter, You don't have to make him legal, Lewis Baking will keep him when they take over.

Dear Junk Collector: If you happen to have a birth certificate lying around, one of the mexicans working in our bakery could sure us it. Would you mind mailing it to me.

You might want to try selling your stuff on e-bay. We are all trying to save our money due to the fact we will all be jobless.

all i can say is hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHA! I will be glad to see all of your dumbasses out of a job. Then let's see the union help you guys out.

hey so. cal. i asked before and i'll ask again. are there any bakers out there? that can tell me how bad that jung wants to cut my nuts off. what are these screw balls after, besides making me poorer, and more miserable.man, i need 3 yrs to get out. what the #$%^ did they try to take away. as usual the hall knows nothing......

SO Steve A. and Robert D. Whatcha gonna do now that your all out of a job? All i can say is HA HA. You all got what you diserved. I think it's funny as hell. Maybe if you didn't treat the return garbage like the fresh crap you may not be out of work now but OH WELL. So i hope your prode of your selfs. Good job. As for me, i now bring home twice as much a week and work 90% LESS. To who ever may read this [ and i know someone will and have some stupid come back] A.V. stands for apple valley, just in case some of you dummies out there who that this was Andy A., it wasn't. This is the Roseita Pantera signing off for the absolute last time. GOOD BY WONDER OUFS.

Reported in KCStar http://www.kansascity.com/business/local/story/249588.html What we’re requesting is the flexibility to adapt to the market,” said Interstate spokeswoman Sandi Sternberg. “Right now the work rules are very restrictive.” But in a telephone interview Monday, Volpe said that besides trotting out a “radical” distribution proposal, the new chief executive of Interstate, Craig Jung, lacked the experience in the baking industry to affect a successful turnaround. LACKS THE EXPERIENCE! “Jung comes in and has no experience in the bread or cake business and wants to come out with a system that’s never been tested in the industry by any other company, union or nonunion,” Volpe said. AGAIN, LACKS THE EXPERIENCE! Sternberg said Jung and others have the necessary experience. OH, NOW THEY GOT THE EXPERIENCE!!! “Several members of IBC’s leadership team, in addition to Craig Jung, have implemented path-to-market before at other companies,” Sternberg said. “We know it works, including in the baking industry.” PATH-TO-MARKET!! HOW DO THEY KNOW IT WILL WORK WHEN IT'S NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE? WHO WANTS TO BUY BREAD THAT HAS SAT ON THE BAKERY DOCK FOR A DAY, THEN IN THE TRUCKS FOR A DAY, THEN ON THE STORES DC DOCK FOR ANOTHER DAY, THEN IN THEIR TRUCKS FOR ANOTHER DAY, THEN IN THEIR BACKROOMS FOR A DAY, HELL IT'S A WEEK OLD BEFORE IT'S ON THE SHELF! WOULD YOU BUY THAT? IT NOT POTATO CHIPS DUMMIES!!

Hey Sacramento, if you haven't noticed before Rick Schoenberg is about as worthless as the rest of the bunch! Just look what he did when he put everyone on days! That was a dumb move! Good idea, but a dumb move that failed!

For Sale, 1 slightly used wife, 5bdrm 3bath house on large lot, 1 Hummer, 1 Escalade, 1 450SL Benz, 1 35ft Powerboat, 3 ATV's, 1 used up route truck, 1 country club membership, 1 college education and more. Forced to sell do to I can't steal no more from this broke company! Make offer, cheap!

Thers Life after IBC. I just returend from Safford AZ. I baught a 6 plex for $400,000 about 7 months ago, I only put $80,000 down. I just sold it to a big distributor of catapiller for $535,000. Also the Phelps Dodge Mining CO has 600 jobs they cant find workers for. You can purchase a new three bedroom house for $175,000. So thers hope.

Watch out Sacramento and Oakland. You are not untouchable, Now Rick Schoenberg can concentrate on how to start saving money at these bakeries. To many managers? To much foremen overtime( or just to many foremen)? Remember: you can be elimenated. You better start putting on the side show. Its a fact, your world is about to change, for drivers and bakers. The time has come for all you CLOCK milking fools to smell the shit you created.

your are right about the health care cost, but thats why you should not have any benifits. Lets see, Walmart is the number one retailer in the world. Why because they hire nothing but people with 6th grade educations, pay them minimum wages and give them no benifits. On the other hand you have IBC, a union shop who's stock is down to just a little above a dollar. They also hire nothing but people with 6th grade educations, but they pay their employees $60k a year, give them benifits and retirement plans. Do you see the difference. Like I said earlier, times are changing and the culture and economy are correcting themselves. I will put it to you in a way that with your 6th grade "edumacation" you will be able to understand. Go to school= sucess and choices, Don't go to school past the 6th grade=walmart or welfare. If you need any further explanation of whats about to happen to you just ask, maybe while I'm with your wife I can leave you some notes for you to read, or you can ask one of your kids to read them for you..lol

You my friend are far more stupid than I ever imagined. College can never be classified as "wasted time in school". You deserve exactly what you are getting, with your 6th grade "edumacation". After the doors close in october, we will see how far that is going to take you. Your old ass will be lucky to get a job at walmart. I'm sure companies will be fighting for your ingnorant, unskilled, uneducated, over the hill ass. What else do you know how to do. the only one that will be living at walmart will be you. I will make sure that i drop a couple of quarters in your bucket as your holding your sign that reads "Please help this UNION brother in my time of need. Will work for ding dongs". Oh and by the way, your wife really does love the EXTRA LONG sour dough(1412), she just lies to you because your only packing a small wonder(18)...

You guys are a bunch of sniveling babies. We had it way to easy to long.Done by 10;30 and on your way home. You got what you desirve. Maybe if more gus would'a put a little effort into there jobs, we would all still have one. Now you wont have to worry if you get home in time for General Hospital .

Just remember "WHATEVER L.A. GETS, IS WHAT YOU GET"! Union contracts! Just sell us already! Let someone who knows something about bread run it!

To "wally-world" L.A. Hostess! You must be middle management or scum sucking upper management! I think you deliveried your "extra long sour" to the wrong house, it must have been the hog feed guys wife you gave that to, mine likes it sweet! My 6th grade edumacation got me more than your college did. Jobs requiring college around here only pay $12 to 19 per hour, wow! So much for your wasting time in school. It's you theiving delivery boys that have driven us down. It's not the Unions!! Well maybe it is for protecting your worthless fat asses for so long! Actually it's all about the price of fuel and health care. If it costs more to pay for fuel, it costs more to make, deliver and buy products! Wages are not the cause of it! Blame the right source for the high cost of business! Maybe you can live in your Escalade in Wal*Marts parking lot!

DO -NOT beleive the union bashing being posted by company hacks on this site mainly a plan to oust the union,where united in the midwest as i talk to other drivers-NO GIVEBACKS most say THEY DONT CARE IF THEY CLOSE THE FRIGGIN DOORS not one person in management has taken a cut,in fact the bums gave themselves bonuses alleged per ACLU

What makes IBC think that the stores are going to want to deal with more product stocking? IBC's "Delivery Path" is all wrong! IBC will loose control over "fresh product" on the shelves, thus losing more business! The only way it will work is if IBC sells the product to the stores, no returns! They bought it, they got it. It's their to do what they want with it. If they don't put it on the shelf then they loose, not IBC. Do you really think the stores are going to do that? More work, more costs for them! It won't work, dummies!!

The reason welfare and walmart go together is because poor people need to pay the lowest amount possible for what they are buying. Its a new global economy. We are not just competing with american companies, we are competing with the world. Everything is cheaper worldwide, so this is why american companies are struggling. I bet you didn't even finish high school and you want to be recieving the perks of a college educated person. Times have changed my friends. This world is about getting back what you put into it. Companies can't afford to be paying all you loosers corporate benifits. All of these jobs that uneducated people could get and retire on are slowly but surely evaporating. You should have listened to your parent when they told you to get a college education. Just be thankful that it lasted this long. If it was your company, you would be doing the same thing management is doing now. Survival of the fittest. If it isn't working, you have to fix it. Something had to be done or the whole company will cease to exist. By the way, this delivery boy makes special deliveries to your wife when your at work. Extra long sour is her bread of choice, just so you know.

It's true, Wal*Mart and Wel*fare go together! It's guys like you "Wally World" that we are in the spot we are in. Hungry, out of work? Eat your import! Buy American for American's! It's because of my Union that I can retire and had health care for years! You think your company would give you that without the Unions? Your wrong! Your company would give you nothing, just like what they are asking you to take right now! It's not the Union, it's mismanagement by the company and no control over sales! You must be a route saleman aka: delivery boy! How come all the sales people drive Benz's and other new expensive cars? Just take a look at the depots and see who drives what. That should tell you were the money went!

We need more management people who come in and the email is down and they say, "Oh no email? What am I doing here then?" Cut those jobs if you cut anyone! We have 3 idiots we rarely see, who took the place of 2 people, that one person could do! I haven't seen anything change since they have been here! The company could save way over $120, 000(that's a light figure) a year by cutting 2 of them out! They don't have a clue how to manage things! Let the employees run it, hell the foreman's run it anyway and cover the DM's asses! We all know our jobs and have done them well for years! Just think if this same thing is going on in other plants across the states, no Wonder we are in trouble! All you need is one plant manager, a "good" sales manager and a few good foreman to run things right and make money! IBC should strongly look at just what these DM's do! WAKE UP IBC!!

Quit talking shit about Walmart and welfare. Your ignorant ass might be on welfare soon enough. As for Walmart, well either you'll be trying to stretch out every penny of your unemployment check, or you might just find yourself handing out greeting stickers to the kids as they walk into your new employers place of business. Or are you tellin me you will continue to support union shops..lol Look where the almighty union is leading you. Unions are outdated, all that is happening is the economy and culture correcting itself. We live in a global economy and its survival of the fittest. Its time to get rid of all these "mafia" unions, Their days are numbered. Maybe you should start practicing the Walmart jingle the employees chant in the morning.

Support your local Welfare system, Wal*Mart! Why do you think they put all thier stores in out of the way depressed areas? Why do you think they added food, drugs, eye glasses, even Dr.s in some? What's with the star in thier name, Wal*Mart? Just need the Sickle to go with it! No more food stamps, just a Wal*Mart card, you can get everything you need there! The new Wel*fare system of America!

Gonna get me a job investigating bogus workman's comp. claims! Video tape your asses doing yard work, taking walks, running, playing, lifting, pushing, pulling, mowing, bowling, and just living life! WATCH YOUR BACKS!! File your bogus claims and see what it gets you, you lazy worthless pieces of "S".

I am not a kling-on. I have never been a kling-on.

HEY PHUBUS ! Are you going to hurt your back again, before the bakery ? You psycho piece of shit. At least you co-workers won't have to worry about being PHEBUSIZED anymore.

You can stop re-arrainging the deck chairs now. Your ship has finaly sank. Whoooo Hooooo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Although it is tough to see so many people getting the axe, I truly believe that we have no one to blame but ourselves. Years of unnecesary ot, bogus comp claims, and having the attitude that IBC owes them a living has finally come around to bite us in the ass. Someone is always looking for good help. The truly hard workers will find jobs, the lazy sob's who have helped bring these changes will not find anything comprible. Good luck bread brothers.

you can bet if the Teamsters have backed away from the table it's not that they care about us and are family's ,or brothers and sisters from the past. They have no choice on this new IBC plan because if this plan is in place we will lose thousand of Teamsters and they will not let that happen. they don't care if this plan works or not, they say this is unproven look at pepis & frito lay. were is Jimmy getting his information last time I checked these companys were making lots of money and the people who work there don't have to worry about feeding there family's

who let the engs out who who who . who allows the chf to accidentally spill coffee on the t/s clerk when his good ole buddy leachy john gets a complaint filed against him....who who who who shoves it all under the rug because it was just an "accident" ......accidentally on purpose.

who let the engs out who who who . who allows the chf to accidentally spill coffee on the t/s clerk when his good ole buddy leachy john gets a complaint filed against him....who who who who shoves it all under the rug because it was just an "accident" ......accidentally on purpose.

Think about it, hasn't the L.A. area always been the strongest union? Whatever L.A. gets we get? Well come on! This is IBC's way of breaking the Unions! Take down the strongest and the rest will cave in to our demands! After they close you'll hear them saying "Look what we did to L.A.". Your next if you don't give us what we want! They always have all the new Mexicans allowed in the States who'll do the job for good ole American dirt! Don't blame the unions, blame the government! Denoice your citizenship now! That way you'll be taken care of when your out of work!

Hey has anyone given a tought as to who is going to make Albertson's and Stater's Bro Bread??? and will they let IBC keep dilvering them there CAKE ITEMS?? I can Just see bigger problem's down the road.

JUST THINK ABOUT IT, DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT teamsters WILL JEAPORDIZE 20,OOO TEAMSTER JOBS.THEYARE TO FUCKING SMART FOR THAT........YOU HAVE TO FIGURE WHEN IBC LOOSES CONTROLON OCT 5TH JUST THINK HOW MANY DUMB FUCK BUSINESS AGENTS WILLLOOSETHEREJOBS BECAUSE IBC EMPLOYEE'S WONT BE AROUND TO PAY THERE FUCKING SALARIES. AND TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE,YOU AND I WILL BECOMPETING WITH THOSE LAZY ASSHOOLE BUSINESS AGENTSFOR JOBS.FRANKLY I HOPE IBC STANDS THERE GROUND AND PUTS IT UP THE teamsters ASS. i HAVE FREINDS WHO WORK FOR FRITO LAY AND THEY LIKE THERE JOBS. MAYBE THOSE LEFT WILL MAKE LESS MONEY BUT MAYBE NOT SO MANY HOURS.

The union has been fucking us for years. I left right before they merged millbrook with the wonder routes and I am glad I did. Come on guys, this company has been going down the toilet for years. If you were to stupid to realize it, its nobodies fault but your own. If your were smart, you would have planed to do something else. How many times did they have to threaten us with layoffs before you did something for yourselves. The writing has been on the wall for a long time. Soar in 04, Dive in 05. Thats what we use to say in our depot. Look at it this way, you got 2 more years out of it. Quit your bitching and remeber, its every man for himself. Thats the reality of life. Your union "brothers" aren't going to help you pay your bills or feed your kids. There are a million things you can do with your life. Wonder bread is not the only job out there. Fuck management, they were always putting us down saying" where else you going to make this kind of money" I made over 250k last year. They can take their shitty job and shove it up their ass!! You can do it to, but you have to get your crying ass off of the couch and do something for yourselves. They only thing I miss is the free insurance. COBRA is $721 a month. Get ready my friends.

Maybe when they dismantle the company Pepsi-co will buy us and put us on the Frito routes like they have wanted to for years maybe this is all part of the big plan.

We need to think ahead. Union brothers, we need to find what they want in life,IBC did not help our families! We were stupid enough to hang in there for 3 years. Its time to move on... the whole nation should look at southern california as an example to move on, there is jobs out there. Better jobs than making break for IBC! Were all going through the same thing, we all have familys, thats why we are making bread. GOD BLESS AND WE WILL MAKE IT.

Name: Finally! Date: 2007-08-29 Location: Location:Pomona, CA Comment: Wow! I just figured out how much severance will be! I can survive for nearly a year with that and unemployment…cool…now I just need to sell the house, the truck, and the boat…maybe a yard sale or two will buy me a month or so…I’m goin’ on vacation! Should be a nice Christmas! Ya’ gotta’ admit…it’s nice to finally be among the dead and not suffering with the dying! ................................................................................................................... The only thing wrong with this equation is... If you file for unemployment IBC will Cut off Your severance pay. Or if you get another job for that matter. And if they pay you in advance (one lump sum) .You must sign a agreement to that effect. They have sued past employees that got a job while receiving severance.

Name: DoUgH fUcKeD Date: 2007-08-29 Location: Location:Los Angeles, CA (Millbrook) Comment: To all the dumb fucks that think what is happening out here in cali is a hoot, well i have news for you...... It won't be long before the tables turn and your looking down the barrel. Do you know what it feels like to have a family or a mortgage you are responsible for and know that your losing your job in 60 days? Do you know how it feels when some dumb ass comes into your store and locks the doors so he can give you some stupid warn notice, and then tells you it's not your fault? I know it's not my mother fucken fault!!!!!! I did my god damn job. Just like alot of other people did theirs. Sadly people, this is how it always goes down, the big man lines his pockets first, then the working man takes the wrap. How many times do we see this happen. Too many...... Alot of the problems here are lazy ass people that think it's funny to go out on workmans comp just cuz they want a little vacation time. Well asshole's we're all on vacation now. Face it, California is a hard state to do buisness in and when we have people like that, it just makes it all the more harder. Both muy uncle and father retired from this company and in one way I am sad to say that I won't be. On the other hand I kind of feel relieved that it's over..... I don't have to be told how to do things anymore because of chapter 11. I never want to here chapter11 again...... Anyways, I had alot of great years and some not so great but I don't think I would change it for the world, good or bad, I still got paid, still paid my bills and still enjoyed life... Thank you IBC..... i think...... And FUCK ALL OF YOU ASSHOLE'S WHO THINK IT'S A JOKE!!!!! YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT POINTING THE FINGER IN BLAME....... THEY ALWAYS POINT RIGHT BACK.................................................................................................................. IT'S YOUR FAULT BECASE YOU WERE TOO STUPID TO LOOK FOR ANOTHER JOB 3 YEARS AGO. DUMB ASS.

Why do you act like you are pissed at your union? Did the company offer you any information in the last 3 years? Hell No !!! The company is playing a "serious" chess game at this moment. Lets sell "PATH 2 MARKET".... We get them 2 accept, and the other 20 suggestions will be "LAW" Also <<<>>>> SHAME ON YOU IBC FOR FORCING OUR HAND WITH ONLY 2 MONTHS TO GO!~!!! THE MASTER PLAN!!!!! I ONLY HOPE THAT THE UNION HAS THE BALLS TO STAND BEHIND THER INITAIL STANCE. EVERYTHING IS GETTING MORE EXPENSIVE....MILK, GAS.WATER, AND EVEN MINIMUM WAGE...... MY FAMILY OF 5 QUALIFYS FOR REDUSED LUNCH AND FOOD STAMPS..... THE UNION MUST STAND PROUD!!!! THE COMPANY HAS CUT LOTS OF JOBS AND ARE GOING TO RENAME THEM...........SO ALL THE GOOD LE BOYS STILL SOAK UP THE "REAL PAYROLL PROBLEMS" WE CAN ONLY HOPE THE LAST OF THE TEAMSTERS UNION RIDE THIS SHIP TILL IT BOTTOMS OUT..............like ALL THE PAST MANEGEMENT HAS!!! OR MAYBE............................. We can all get along............. And succeed............. To Be Continued....... IF YOUR AREA IS GONNA CLOSE....................ITS GONNA CLOSE......

Wonder people!!! Hostess is your sister!!!! The Union will know!!!!!! Fuck IBC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Will the deadwood here get the axe?

IBC employees will be able to get a discount on Vasoline & KY jelly at there local Pharmacy

For the next 60 days , I want all you route people to make sure you do call backs at your two best stops. also, remember to skip your lunch break like you have been doing, you guys are great.

Your post is so true. I worked with Lewis when IBC sold the Chicago plant and the managment had to stay for a year. God help the midwest plants that Jack Lewis purchases. He will run them into the ground then close them like he did to the big Chicago plan that was on Garfield Blv. His bennys suck and you won't get 5 weeks vacation for twenty years that is unheard of.

All kidding aside..Jamaica is the last large scale bakery still in NYC. It would be a stupid move to close it. Although I am not saying our leaders have any smarts. With Silvercup, Taystee, Pechter. Fink..Miller and Gnome all gone in the 5 boroughs I hope to think that Jamaica will be safe for awhile. Back in the 80"s ALL the bakeries gave their unions way to much and that is why we are all suffering now.

Hey Grapevine.....I thought Wayne is a cake plant....They are not capable of producing bread. Jamaica will be a subway soon.

It's wrong to Blame either/ any union for the closings. These closings were decided 3 yrs ago when Chapter 11 started and management continued to take bonuses. Like the have for the 3 yrs since. The high and mighty folks at G.O. profit from the loss of these jobs and the sinking of this company. we'll start over somewhere else to feed our families and live our lives, they'll move on to another 7 figure salary and country club membership. The folks who deserve the blame alvarez, elsesser, sullivan are long gone and we're left behind to clean up and carry out the mess. The company that buys these bakeries will get some great employee's but all the good dept. managers will have left. Mr. Jung will parachute out with a multi-million dollar twinkie umbrella.

The midwest will be sold to Lewis bakeries and Flowers bakeries .The goverment wont allow only one owner .

I'm so happy this is over. And best of all our competition just gained 1300 customers. Watch their stocks soar. If we are all smart we should not purchase another Hostess or Dolly Madison cake in Southern California also. 1300 families purchasing non IBC products, Priceless.

henderson they will not answer the phone. but from what i hear the aware of the problem and are fixing the situation

How can they get rid of another 1300 people on top of the enormous amount they have in the past along with all of tth previous bakery closings/ route cuts and STILL lose money every fucking month? This company is ran by Fucktards. Get out while you can or prepare to sink.

These stupid salad boys from the Soup Exchange had a lot to do with Southern California fiascal. They are clueless. It was like watching another Forrest Gump movie.

Hey Who Likes Watching the U.F.C. Good Yes?

Hey Anonymous please google map of So. California it's there my union bother.

To family man: here is a suggestion. Why don't you and the other 1299 south cal employees call the Teamster and tell them you don't want them to represent anymore and let them know you need the jobs and willing to agree to concessions.

To all the dumb fucks that think what is happening out here in cali is a hoot, well i have news for you...... It won't be long before the tables turn and your looking down the barrel. Do you know what it feels like to have a family or a mortgage you are responsible for and know that your losing your job in 60 days? Do you know how it feels when some dumb ass comes into your store and locks the doors so he can give you some stupid warn notice, and then tells you it's not your fault? I know it's not my mother fucken fault!!!!!! I did my god damn job. Just like alot of other people did theirs. Sadly people, this is how it always goes down, the big man lines his pockets first, then the working man takes the wrap. How many times do we see this happen. Too many...... Alot of the problems here are lazy ass people that think it's funny to go out on workmans comp just cuz they want a little vacation time. Well asshole's we're all on vacation now. Face it, California is a hard state to do buisness in and when we have people like that, it just makes it all the more harder. Both muy uncle and father retired from this company and in one way I am sad to say that I won't be. On the other hand I kind of feel relieved that it's over..... I don't have to be told how to do things anymore because of chapter 11. I never want to here chapter11 again...... Anyways, I had alot of great years and some not so great but I don't think I would change it for the world, good or bad, I still got paid, still paid my bills and still enjoyed life... Thank you IBC..... i think...... And FUCK ALL OF YOU ASSHOLE'S WHO THINK IT'S A JOKE!!!!! YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT POINTING THE FINGER IN BLAME....... THEY ALWAYS POINT RIGHT BACK

I heard they have a yard full of new Ryder box trucks in Philly. ready for the change over. Hey Scabs, remember if you cross the line you will be sued by the union for three times the amount you earn while on strike. Its not worth it . I.B.C. has to go.I don,t mind being sacrificed for other union jobs.

You Mgmnt dicks will get yours...if you close all the volume markets the creditors can't get paid because your piss ant low volume markets can't generate cash flow much less the small profit wont be enough to pay you fat boys in KC. Theres some great posts with good ideas but hea don't listen to us....you'll get your pink slip soon enough

hey dirty sanchez last I checked I didnt think SF was in southern Cal but I am 4000 miles away.

I.m not a kling-on. I have never been a kling-on.

Hey anonymous from Florida. Go fuck a orange you faggot

Dear Grapvine From what I have heard they want to make bread by you this way they can off Jamaica. I also heard that the 6500 combo routes in Philly are on the blocks.

They closed So. Cali. and particular San Francisco because of the lawsuit that the workers won.This company runs on spitefulness. thats why we,re going under. Lets see who gets new jobs first , union workers or the Bi-polar management . Thats what I sinks!!

Hey Dick from L.A. Just because your state got FUCKED.....you dont have to wish it on everybody else...by the way everything is great in the sunshine state

I'm not a kling-on . I have never been a kling-on.

Fuck Michigan !

anyone have any info on the Michigan area. Sorry to here about the so cal area

Fuck the midwest !

I've just pissed my pants and there is nothing anyone can do about it .

Hey sorry to here about everyone out in south cal. But I was just wondering if in anyone knew how the midwest region was doing.

I guess another valued employee has walked out. I can't believe Doug is letting this dumb ass supervisor & this dumber ass assist to run the show. People are walking out left & right. What is it going to take for you Doug to wake up (duh). Just because the dumb ass assist is working a lot of hours doesn't mean he is doing a good job Doug. Oh I forgot he come in so you don't have to. What a piece of work.

Dear Mr. Jung, I know you had a tough decision about pulling out of Ca. But I wish you would have let the employees konw what kind a concessions your were asking for., because I am sure we would have excepted paying for some of or medical benifits. Your spokeswomen in Ca. said that there is to much non union co. in this market, I know of one Sara Lee.I dont want to be negative, because l like my job. But you have afected 1300 familys with this decision. so if you have kids when you put them to bed, be glad because of your decision in 60 days my kids may not have a bed to sleep in. So please you and the union fis this mess so our familys can sleep without having to worry that they might have to give up thier bed.

The last 2 thoughts going through the mind of Wonder supervisors throughout So Cal tonight as they fall asleep: 1. “Which one of my guys will off themselves tonight?”, and 2. “Who will I ever get to pull their route?”

Wow! I just figured out how much severance will be! I can survive for nearly a year with that and unemployment…cool…now I just need to sell the house, the truck, and the boat…maybe a yard sale or two will buy me a month or so…I’m goin’ on vacation! Should be a nice Christmas! Ya’ gotta’ admit…it’s nice to finally be among the dead and not suffering with the dying!

Just thought I would remind everyone of Ron Paul.

NY and FLa. are next not enough profit to pay the state emission and e.p.a. fines they get every year. I will try to get actual profit year to date from someone tommorrow. I hope they run from now on. Just info I was given.

EMAW! RECP!

That's what I heard from a truck driver about Florida too. And the truckers know before anyone.

What is interesting is how many post are going on this site since the anoucement of bakery closings. We have been warning you for weeks on the site and now everyone acts like it a big F******* surprize!!!!! It's not over yet, a lot of you people that are acting like assholes because your plant is still open are in for a rude awaking.

DEAR Anonymous IN ORLANDO fLORIDA IS BY NO WAY HOLDING THERE OWN. ZERO growth in the past 6 months you guys are next

Now I am Pissed. Somebody in Wayne NJ. claims to be the grapevine. Hey bud the south east and or mid atlantic are turning over a profit for your information.

Grapevine you must be talking out your ass because your face knows better...the florida pc is holding its own in fact its making a profit.... If they pull out of fla I would be shocked its not easy down here because of the competition just ask sara lee they arent doing shit in cental fla ....avg 40%stale 4000 rt avg

DT- You better hope they don't shut down Sacramento, which will probably happen, because the only job you will be able to get is picking up monkey shit at the zoo.

wellll ahhhhhh ahhhhhhh ahhhhhhhh my depot ahhhhhhh ahhhhhhh number one

Pay no attention to Hope from Jamaica. Must be a shitty bakery worker. Before you throw stones look in the mirror. The riff raff in that bakery is just as bad as the area its in. Get rid of the inside help like Weston a things will sail

go to kcstar.com and in lower left hand column see the IBC story by Jennifer Mann

Still nothing on the front page of Teamsters wesite about So Cal just more UPS crap. Teamsters where are you?

Across most of the country Path to market won't affect anything. Almost all of the RSRs are delivery people anyway you'd think they worked for UPS sign my invoice and how fast can I get to the next stop. Some have one primary goal, beat the other delivery guys back to the depot or how can I shave off another 30 minutes off my day. When I started it was about sales and developing the route getting my distribution right asking for dispays. It's taking two people right now to run a route the delivery (RSR)guy and some poor old stupid division manager to go out and sell and set the display because the route man just doesn't have time. But I never get help because I always did it myself and managers are too busy babysitting deadbeat drivers. Get some balls mangers write these people that refuse to work up and get rid of em save the company.

Hey John Morton, you short fat inbred troll, what are you going to do now? Who's ass or dick are you going to suck now. Time for you to be a thinker and not a stinker..lol If you ask me, I think your fucked.

Heard NY and FLa. are next. Get ready

How about this//// cakes and bread don't have the same shelf life as doritos and beef jerky and salsa dip that is good for a year. Go ahead and presell a pallet of twinkies into Wally mart and by the time it sits in their distribution certer for 4 days and then makes it to the store so a big fat ass assistant food manager can scratch his head and think of a good place to put it for a solid week the twinkies should be running out of date. Then they say stops that sell 50 dollars or less can call in an order and we drop it off. We can't even get schools and places like that to call in an order. But you can bet the one that calls will want the least amount he can have delivered and he will be a new customer 50 miles out of town.

HELLO!!!! does anyone see past the smoke screen?? how can changing the way we get bread to the stores help? by paying two people to do the job that one person does now.dont make any sense.how about setting the stores according to what is selling in that market area instead of every store having the same set. quit paying for displays of bread that dont sell. most stores will just let you put one up. fix shipping. our area mngr. said he was cut 50,000. worth of product in one week. thats a lot of sales. the bakery is to busy baking the next days bread to finish what we need for that day. whats with all the color fliers and banners ill bet thoes cost a pretty penny i wonder who is related to the printing company that puts those out. mr jung you need to start at the bottom and do each job for a few days to understand whats going on and to see all the waste. you can start with routes and work your way up.

Check this out!! http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/interstate-bakeries-exit-bread-market/story.aspx?guid=%7B8CBE534E%2DD204%2D4C10%2DBADE%2D5760C7AA6D49%7D&dist=TQP_Mod_pressN

Willie St. Pierre is a wonderful person, and is very successful with Sara Lee. Continued success Willie! Sorry, to all IBC sales personnel.

I put a Hungarian curse on Mr.Dung just for the fun of it. His asshole will get bigger as his pecker gets smaller. Then his Daughter will get pregnant by a black UPS driver . The Baby will be black as coal and he can not show his face at the country club for shame. The UPS driver tries to move in . Mr Dung refuses. The UPS driver then sues Mr.Dung for racial discrimination and takes him for every sent he has. Mr Dung then gets caught embezzling founds by the bankruptcy court judge and is sentenced to prison for 8 years. Mr Dung then finds his fellow inmates Hector and Rocky from the union who are in on similar charges are real pleased with his big asshole and little pecker. Now that’s a curse! I can hardly wait!

Guy's look around its not that good of a job. Loosing the time in sucks. But most of you will be so much happier with new jobs.I.B.C SUCKS always has. Mr Dung is frito . Frito is shit.

A lot of fat ladies singing in Pomona in October. I WONDER what brand of bread THEY have been eating, must be BIMBO..lol

Well I 'm guessing the fat lady is getting ready to sing. All i can say is fuck the union. Carlos and Rocky can both go fuck themselves. They've been selling us out for years. Mike Young, you racist piece of shit blow me. To all of my fellow route men, good luck finding a new job. Its tough out there.

Hey Dirty Sanchez, Your crew is on Santa's padlock list right behind Florida, another non-profit organization.

Can anyone find a Teamsters rep? I guess I'll have to use my day off and drive all day to the union hall. I can't believe after 17 years when I really need to talk to them , no one is to be found.

FUCK YOU FLY ON THE WALL

Well I guess that M.C. dude just got his round of KARMA -- Try McDonald's for work - You were on top of the world with lots of long term security and you BLEW IT ! Oh well, too bad - so sad -- Question; How long will those checks keep ya going - If you find another job you'll probably get laid off again (I hope).

we'll know who the REAL employees are come OCT. The lazy slackers will all be on disability come oct they'll get "hurt" just watch.. And CAVEMAN You dumb ass!! your pension is paid for my WORKING employees if there is no work force theres no money going into the pension. The union can change your monthly amount at ANYTIME if the board of directors feel the pension is in trouble. It's funded just like social security. so shut your mouth Your probably one of the lazy milkers who helped get the company where it is today..stop posting no one wants to hear it!

HA HA I LOVE IT YOU PAMONA A HOLES....THINK I MIGHT COME BACK AND TAKE ANOTHER LEAK ON THE RAILROAD TRACKS!!!!!! RETIREMENT IS GREAT!!!!!

I told you assholes and you would not listen. Kiss my jewish ass

Well I guess the fat lady is going to sing in Oct. I was sad when my husband left after 20 years in 2005, but he has a new job and is much happier now that he isn't dealing with all the stress that was rolling downhill around there..All in all I have to say that there were many good years before all this financial distress and the company took good care of my family while my kids were growing up.Good Luck to all in the future .

I have a new idea - ask any union rep BESIDES A TEAMSTER what the hell is going on.

It's not over yet - and frankly, since I now know what they want, it's not that bad. Don't ask a teamster as they don't know shit. Change is scary - but living like Ronald Reagan is still president, Ah-Ha is in vogue, and Michael Jackson can still babysit my kids isn't good. WHAT DO WE HAVE TO LOSE BUT OUR JOBS?

Alright listen, the issue is the fact that the teamsters don't give a crap - don't know what the proposed change is - and frankly use our money to fight UPS. Screw the teamsters - path to market can't be that bad compared to unemployment. At least non-union knows what path to market is.

Well the fat lady finally has sung! To the Teamster's I say thanks for nothing! To all the lazy, good for nothing, piece of shit route drivers,(here and at other depots) I say thank you very fucking much! Hows the union going to protect you now? (Oh wait most of you have no jobs!!)Oh! mr B'well nice job walking off sick today, I guess it finally dawned on you that for once you're truly fucked! (and Shannon can't bail you out) To the rest of you who are honest, and hardworking and true to the cause I say thank you and good luck! It was a pleasure to work alongside all of you.

To those left in Southern Cal, those of you who will be left to run a cake route will enjoyit. We went through what your going through about 2 years ago,we allmake more money and its a lot less work. Hang in there!!!!

Tee Time when you call the union hall next time tell 'em your from UPS they'll come running over

Where were all those Union Business Agents at today? You would think they would have been near to answer any question we had?

Finally, the Fat Lady sings for Southern California.

Finally, we can get some closure to what we have been saying all along? IBC will continue to fail due to the fact they cannot see that cuts have to be made in Kansas City before IBC can come out of BK. Mr Jung's an idiot who thinks he can bully the rank and file to get his was, he will see that this is not going to work. I'm happy that I can now collect 26 weeks of severance pay and then collect 26 weeks of wonderful California Unemployment benefits which IBC will have to pay also. One year to watch and decide what I will do for the rest of my career. Thank you Mr. Dung.

Called my Union agent today receptionist says,"He's at the country club today can I take a message?" I said," Sure, tell him the guy that helps pay his paycheck with my hard earned dues would like to speak with him if he's not too worn out." I can't believe the agents haven't came around or at least called or sent a memo.

Willie ST.Pierre is still a dickhead

The Teamsters union represents 10,000 of the baking company’s 25,000 employees, which makes up 40% of the employee base at IBC. Although a valued entity, the Teamsters are a minority in numbers and should allow IBC to make it’s own business decisions in regards to the Companies profitability and survival. The Company’s plan to remake the distribution system, although untested, is a business strategy, which has been formulated as one of the ways to bring the Company out of bankruptcy, to maintain jobs and to increase profitability. “We do not share IBC’s view that its business plan will allow the company to emerge from bankruptcy; nor do we agree that IBC’s untested Path-to-Market delivery system is the only way for the company to survive,” It is this writer’s opinion, that the only way to find out whether something will work or not is to “test it” and to monitor and measure the results along the way; improving the outcome by enhancing the undesirable results. Leaving the “Path-to-Market delivery system” on the drawing board “untested” creates neither change nor results; hence, foreclosure.

Does this mean Rocky will not be our buisness agent?

Who is laughing at Willie ST.Pierre now??

Severence per union contract is one-half week per year, maximum 11and1/2 weeks max. you also get your sick leave and vacation pay.

Saw a Company spokeswoman on tv and she mentioned all the brands the people in So. Cal. will miss in 60 days...everything except Homepride...Prediction....Homepride label to non-union Sara-Lee and sell the bakery to Bimbo, of course after 30 days

For almost 15 years the company has given me a steady job. Put my kids thru school. Medical when they got sick. I hate to see it go. But it is what it is. No hard feelings here . I hate to start over in a new job but I’m looking forward to finding something where I don’t get up at 1 o’clock in the morning. As far as the union goes its presence kept us from getting boned big time. But you have to admit Hector has been a sell out for a long time and poor Rocky , If you were to cut his fingers off he couldn’t count to ten. So my brothers it been nice knowing most of you. You are some good people who’s life’s have been turned upside down. I’ll pray for you all and wish you all well . Good Bye

Ask youself this question. How many checks have I recieved from the Teamsters? As I recall I pay the Teamsters. I didn't ask the Teamsters to slam the door in IBC's face I want to have a say in this. I got three kids how many kids you got?

true... you must stay till the bitter end to get your severence... 1 week per year of service.. there is a possibility that this is all just company posturing to get the union to negoitate..... its also possible that the company will close down for 30 days then sell the routes..... or close down for 30 days and re-open as a new company, and hire who they choose, non-union of course. keep in mind that with the volume of bread that IBS sells in so cal, there is no way our competetors bakeries have the capacity to bake what will be needed. anyone notice that the IBC representative doing interviews on TV doesnt mention Home Pride AT ALL???? HHHhmmmmm isnt that the #1 bread in America??

I may be talking out of my ass.. and I probably am,but wake up everyone whats happening in SO CAL is going to be the MO for the rest of the nation it's just a matter of time. Seems to me fighting concessions is only a sure knife to your throat. Take the concessions and maybe you can hold onto your job till at least after the holidays. Christ If I don't get another job between now and the October dedline shit I won't get a job til after the Holidays. No one hires during the holidays..well maybe wal-mart. I ca'nt rember which of you posted about having a job lined up but man! don't wait for some silly severence take the job don't be a fool. The little bit of cash the co. my give you just is'nt worth it! If you have a job to go to.. split!!

I may be talking out of my ass.. and I probably am,but wake up everyone whats happening in SO CAL is going to be the MO for the rest of the nation it's just a matter of time. Seems to me fighting concessions is only a sure knife to your throat. Take the concessions and maybe you can hold onto your job till at least after the holidays. Christ If I don't get another job between now and the October dedline shit I won't get a job til after the Holidays. No one hires during the holidays..well maybe wal-mart. I ca'nt rember which of you posted about having a job lined up but man! don't wait for some silly severence take the job don't be a fool. The little bit of cash the co. my give you just is'nt worth it! If you have a job to go to.. split!!

Hey steve avina why do you try so hard to fire half the shipping department withen two monthes? so you can hire 15 new people at low pay ya thats why out of 15 people we only have 2 left. Why are you on Mike rubio's nuts? He gets to be a forman for you after his first six monthes of not knowing anything in the bakery.(hmmm)Your other supervisors and formans tell you he doesnt do anything and you still do nothing about it.I guess its true what they say its not what you no its who you no.Did you guys no that steve bought some of his formans beer at a pizza place while they were on the clock for a formans meeting!! Then he fires one of them and they bring it up in the meeting and he finally admits that beer did show up to the table. Did steve get in trouble? NO!!!!

Look on the headlines of the Teamster website. Do you see anything about So Cal? No all I see is another friggin UPS success story brought to you by my union dues. Quess what Teamsters no more IBC no more union dues.

the company came today to try and talk us into concessions and we did not go for it. its not our fault the company is in this problem of being broke. ok why come to us. we have no money to give we take care of our families and then we are broke for another week ok ibc do you understand?????? or shall we spell it out for you. there are alot of ways to come out of bankrupcy without picking our pockets ok ok ok we are going to vote it all down and i speak for 95% of us.. now go away and leave us alone.........

To Joe Mama - You eat sh*t n'die. Most management personnel will do fine. I find great pleasure in seeing most of these union turds that wished the company ill, now looking scared and lost...yaaa baby.

This is for real guys . Go get new jobs now . Look at the history of I.B.C in the past years. They dont know how to make a profit. They cut and lay-off thats there M.O . Thats all they know. They cant help it.

Under terms of a three-year employment agreement, Mr. Jung will receive an annual base salary of $900,000 and a signing bonus of $1.2 million. Beginning with the 2009 fiscal year, he will be eligible to participate in the Company's annual performance bonus plan. In the event Company performance objectives are met, he will be entitled to receive an annual bonus equal to 100 percent of his base salary. Mr. Jung will be entitled to receive additional cash awards for enterprise value created during the bankruptcy period, as well as equity once the Company emerges from Chapter 11. During the term of his employment, Mr. Jung will participate in all employee and executive benefit programs. "I think he's worth every penny if he can emerge us from bankruptcy and make this once memorable Company alive again...What's in your wallet?"

I cant believe all the union bashing I'm seeing on this web site today? What is wrong with all of you? All you mgmt. people eat s--t and die.

Last night was so much fun shuffling 12 in. rolls, especially when the bagger operator forgets to put more bags on the machine so we can get backed up to the point of no return. I guess she can live with what is delivered to her...bogie...after bogie...after bogie.

Great! I just went to Teamsters local 166 website and not only is the info there all older than the hills but the link to email is either down or disabled. It says it was updated Aug 8 but the info there is ancient. Anybody know the union’s email address?

This is realy for all the employes at IBC, no one is safe cant you al see what is going on here. IBC is putting the blame on the teamsters not themselves. they have management for management for God sakes. and very high paid also. and none of them know what ass to wipe or kiss for all that matters. Henderson think about it 70% of your buns go to cal. and who is going to deliver them hugh. not a teamster driver. You guys are the next to go dont be stuiped think about this. and also think how many times did IBC ever tell the truth about anything a that would be never. go ask ole Jim Grovner he'll tell you what ever you want to here and seem convinceing while he's got the knife in your back. wake up Henderson for your own sake Ibc is done its only a matter of time

I am not gay and I never have been gay.

Let get this party started and shut this Mother down.

hope ,i applaude you,finally some else that sees the problems as they really are.its everybodys fault,look at urself and admit it people,we have all dropped the ball.so what now,stricter management to crack the whip.i think its time,and noooooooooooo im not in management.ibc has gotten soft so lets get tha shit back tgether,bo brewer we need u back,good luck s.cali guys and gals wish u well.

I can't wait until they close up the N.Y. area! They don't have the guts!

What is path to market?

I.B.C. should cut the fat not the workers, just look at all the supervisions waistline and compare it to the union workers. Not one supervisor is under 275 Lbs. How can the union workers support that kind of weight? Good Job I.B.C.

hey gang you wanted overtime it wont be long

hey gang you wanted overtime it wont be long

Good Day for Management so sorry union members I bet you wouldn't of guessed they would shut you down. Enjoy the unemployemnt line union members.

As usual I.B.C. leaves the bad and cuts the good!

it's really everyones fault manament the unions and the sales reps there's guys in my depot that if you hand them a $7000.00 route just give them a month or so they'll get down to $5000.00 cuz there lazy or this one I like Oh my wife makes all the money BS your fuckin lazy. any and I mean any other sales job where you had declining sales and did nothing to increase them you'd be FIRED!! Some guys in my depot will be lucky to land jobs as security guards. LAZY LAZY LAZY! wait till they have to go get real jobs..talk about some crying pussy's Maybe when there unemployment runs out they just may think wow maybe I should have picked up that stale gee maybe I should'nt have run my stores out EVERYDAY.. gee maybe I should have WORKED and maybe I'd still have a job good luck cuz the lzy one's know who they are!!

I thought so - that's ok, my rep doesn't know what path to market is either, but he is ok asking me to stand united with my buddies in the unemployment line.

The unions are really screwed. their confrontation with management not only makes them lose members in SC but also give the judge a reason to believe they are not coorperating with management to bring this company out of bankruptcy. And guess what's going to happen? the judge will cancel their contracts and shove a new contract down their throats. Just look at the airlines and learn. My advise for remaining teamster members is contact your reps and tell them to agree to concessions. Either agree to concessions and have a chance to save some jobs or more jobs will be lost in addition to concessions shoved down your throats by the judge. It will hurt either way but one is less than the other. And remember all of this is legal.

Listen up people Its business, If you cant turn a profit you go out of business why should a profitable area (business)pay for a losing area. Its not like its rocket science. They should have shed the losers long ago.Thats one of the reason we are in this shape.

Ok, why the hell are we afraid of path to market? It's a change, I'm not hearing how it take money from my pocket. Quite the contrary I am hearing. If the teamsters are so damn smart, why have we been in bankruptcy for 3 years? Its the first idea and like typical teamsters, they knee jerk and assume it can't work. Well guess what teamsters, horse and buggy doesn't work either.

You are wrong about the union contract going with the products if they are sold to someone else. All they have to do is close down for 30 days and the contract is then null and void. they can re-organize under a new name. and be non-union if they so choose.

if the Teamsters bend over for this the way they always do then when it's all said and done, we should dump the Teamsters and get another union!!! don't fall for this bullshit !the company is just trying to break us.

I know the depots are forced to take product they know they can never sell because the sales force insist they take it. Guess who is making money on that one. I have seen trailer loads go in one door and out the other to the bulk yards because they have no room. Guess who is making money under the table from the bulk companies that take our products to make there products without the cost. I would say that between 20-30% of everything that is produced ends up as bulk. Did you know that someone still makes a commission even though it never hits the shelves. Next are the Depots . Did you ever see a company where the route drivers load there own trucks. Most of the drivers make more on the product that is never scanned and sold on the cuff. Next is production. How they get away with post dating the products 5-7 days in advance when they know that by the time it hits the shelves it is bulk is another joke. I thought fresh is important. Guess not. The amount of product that is thrown out is another joke. Because of inadequate equipment and a mechanic crew that does not know what maintence means and cannot be found at times of the breakdowns. You have so called bakers that have no idea how to adjust when the weather changes. I would say 10% of the ingredients, labor and other expenses down the line are wasted there. Next is shipping and distribution. The excessive abuse of overtime, double days and days out without questions asked is another joke.. Drivers are taking 4 hour runs and streaching it to 8 hours. Loaders and drivers are out more then they are in never seems to amaze me. People are punching in and out people that are not there. Workers start when they want without question is another joke. I have never seen anyone fired because of any of the above. In the baking industry there should be app. 70% profit on bread and rolls and 30% profit on cake. Take off app 50% of waste and mismanagement and you can summarize IBC problems. I know I will be fired when they fiqure it out but I feel I have nothing to lose at this point. I might not have all the answers but I know I can or someone with a set of balls can turn this company around. Good Luck All

I only have 500 words so this will be in a couple of posts. First I would like to send out my regrets to all the workers in the So Cal plants. I heard that they are doing the same in Seattle. Any word on that? I am new to this message board and regret not seeing this before. I have been in the baking industry for over 30 years and never seen a company this big run like a runaway train without a conductor. How this company existed this long without any real intervention is amazing to me. Business wise it is so simple to correct it is amazing to me no one with half a brain couldn't figure out. There is no one from top to bottom not to blame. Let’s start from the top. There are too many upper management personnel that are just sitting behind a desk waiting for the company to fold and are just pointing fingers to take the heat off of them until they retire with a secure pension. They should be making trips to the plants and depots unannounced to see the reality of the chaos and make justified changes. We have all seen the cleanups and paper shredding because they we know they are coming. Through the years you must keep up with the changing eating habits and adjust your product line accordingly. This does not seem to happen until its to late and the market changes again. Guys it time to get your hands dirty and hire personnel that know the baking industry. Next is the sales force. Who came up with the brainstorm to eliminate selling to the small stores direct. All they are doing is going to the thrift stores and buying at discount prices and still making a profit or getting the product from another company. Give me forty small stores that pay there bills at a higher profit margin then one big store that will drag you along trying to collect at the lowest profit margin. I go to my local supermarkets and see how our product is displayed. Does the sale team ever visit the supermarkets to see the disarray and location of our product compared to our competitors. I don’t think so.

Fast forward 60 days or so. Top level Union officials are in on whatever buyout is in the works and whoever buys the label buys the contract. That's the way it's done in so cal. No way Home Pride disappears off the shelves overnight and doesn't return. There is money in the #1 selling Wheat bread and whoever takes it takes the union contract as well. Don't bother calling the locals, they have no idea. This is happening at the top. Yes, there is an initial lay-off...but there is a rehiring as well. Who here wants to work for IBC anyways? If I'm wrong...oh well...at least we won't have to wait and wonder anymore...bring on the severance!

declining sales and high costs?who is to blame for high costs?and declining sales>>who is responsible for all the lost sales in 100 calorie cakes,remember the first 8 weeks w/ only 2 or 3 trays of these>>sure we made a couple million ,hell we could have made 4 million?WTF>>>teamsters will kiss noASS (i hope)>mr.Jung you say you will work closely w/our customers in so cal to ensure an orderly transition. so as not to disrupt ther business let me ask you THIS?>>>will you work as closely with all the employees who are now out of jobs because of your doings ,to help them have a smooth transition in finding new employment,this will tell the rest of the nation just what kind of person you really are or if you just don't care this will be the true test of what you are made of mr.Jung are you just out to put us out of business so you can run the show your own way,or do the employees in this company really count?IF YOU REMEMBER ONE THING Mr.Jung,REMEMBER THIS WITHOUT A SALES FORCE TO TAKE A PATH TO MARKET WITH FRESH IBC PRODUCT IBC AS WELL AS YOU ARE DESTINED TO FAIL.please for all involved keep this in the back of your mind or in the front of your boardroom when you negotiate with the TEAMSTERS.not only is the future of ibc at stake,so are the lives and futures of many who have worked countless hours,now and in the past to keep this company afloat when some management (not all)did nothing while collecting huge salaries.in closing i would like you to make agood faith concession and give back 1 million of your salary to prove to us all that you are doing all that YOU can to help us form a better path to market.STAY tuned >>>and watch your codes.

I feel sorry for a lot of the workers in So Cal. Most employees are hard working and care about who they work for. But there are always bad apples wherever you go.IBC has been unprofitable for many years in So Cal. Due to a lot of reasons. Some of which are way beyond their or anyone else's control. But the "bad apples" have showed on this board that they want to nothing but bicker and argue with everyone who will give them 5 seconds. They are now pointing the finger at everyone except themselves. Which is where it should be pointed. Did you really expect IBC to continue with "Business as usual" tactics to try to be profitable? Come on this world is now different. If you dont want to help your employer attempt to be profitable, then good riddance to you. They dont need you and and its high time you were gone. By the way I am a union member but I am first an IBC employee. My paycheck says Interstate Brands, Not Teamsters Union. I wish Mr Jung and everyone else at IBC good luck trying to get out of this shithole we are in. Its up to ALL of us to pull together and get it done. And good bye to anyone who doesnt want to be a team player.

Support our union bro's (LOLOLOL) Hell, I'll walk. Right on out a here and into another job. Just think, ITS ALMOST OVER..HAHAHAHAHA

Its a sad but not unexpected day here in So Cal.Theirs plenty of reasons starting with product quality, Poor transportation, and a once proud sales force that has dropped the ball on the reason we're out there...to make the company money. We all bear responsibility for this companies failure. However, the employees actions don't even compare to the failed Leadership this company has had the last 5 years. Locally, anyone who has worked here questions the decisions that have been made here. Wal Greens mandatory displays..STALE...CVS Drug..STALE...Columbo product you wouldn't pay $1 for..STALE...Bakers Inn..STALE...Muffins shipped in from utah..big money maker..in every market..STALE....Big Lots..Yea we even served Big Lots with 1lb air bread and B&D..until MGMNT decided it was unprofitable...YA THINK....STALE.....We needed a strong Sales leader to make Common Sense decisions on policy of service. A clear direction and path to achieve sales goals. Sales Promos with correct dates...The list goes on & on.... Bottom line....This could have been prevented with a MANAGEMENT TEAM that thought outside the box, and huevos to impliment changes and the professionalism to follow up to ensure success.

Look at this post, Also five years ago. Did we bite that the hand that feeds us?Name: Show me the Money Date: 2002-11-18 Location: Location:Los Angeles, California Comment: In the last month 3 African-American employees retired, we are now down to 8 African-American workers out of 300. This is from from a high of 187. Hostess is opening a new bakery in Las Vegas and they are not going to hire any African-American workers. What are the names of the lawyers in San Francisco, it seems now is the time to bring them in?

I'll bet your Union Rep want to show up now at your depot to talk Hey. OPPS they droped the ball this time.

For the past three years I posted messages here (anonymously) as a form of information to others, and frustration to me. Many times I was asked to reveal my true identity. I refuded, afraid of retribution. IBC always finds a way. Heard the news today about the impending closures and layoffs. Sad...so very sad. I will post my opinion, for what it is worth later. My heart goes to all my friends still at IBC (San Diego).

Looks like the goose that has been laying golden eggs for years is finally dying.

lets all back are brothers and sisters in so. cal, thay walk we walk!!!!!!!!!!!

(Sigh.) NOW are you KS/MO people ready to talk to a reporter? Geez. 816-218-6773 The Pitch

Name: Anonymous Date: 2002-09-14 Location: Location:Pomona, California Comment: UNFAIR TREATMENT, FAVORITISM, SINGLE OUT, DISTRICT MANAGERS THAT LIE AND COVER UP LAW BREAKERS SO THEY CAN EACH KEEP THIER JOBS, THEN HARRASS, INTIMIDATE, HUMILIATE, DEFAMATE, DEGRADE, AND MAKE UP HIS OWN POLICY AS HE GOES ALONG. WHO MAKES POLICY AT IBC ?? WHO DECIDES WHEN TO ENFORCE SO-CALLED RULES AND REGULATIONS ?? IS IT OKAY FOR A DISTRICT MANAGER TO STAND BEHIND A SUPERVISOR, THAT VIOLATES IBC POLICY, TEAMSTER(CBA)RULES AND STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS REGRADING TIME CARD VIOLATIONS, WITHOUT ANY DISCIPLINE OR REPREMANDS BEING ISSUED, LIE ABOUT THE INCIDENTS, THEN TO CONTINUOUSLY HARRASS AND SIGLE OUT THE PERSON WHO FILES A GREVIENCE WITH OUR LOCAL ??? THIS PERSON KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING IS WRONG, SO HE IS TRYING IN EVERY WAY TO SHOW ME THE UNEMPLOYMENT LINE. THE STRESS OF THIS SITUATION HAS LEFT ME PHYSICALLY ILL, WITH NO SELF ESTEEM, AND NOWHERE TO TURN EXCEPT FOR A LAWYERS OFFICE. SOMEONE NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING QUICK, THIS PERSON SHOULD NOT HAVE A JOB AT IBC, LET ALONE BE IN CHARGE OF MY EMPLOYMENT. HELP!!! MY THREE DAUGHTERS AND I NEED THIS JOB TO SURVIVE. ALL I WANT TO DO IS GO TO WORK AND MAKE A GOOD LIVING WITHOUT CONSTANT PRESSURE AND HARRASSMENT. UNFAIR TREATMENT ? YOU BET ! AM I GOING TO TAKE THIS ANY LONGER ? NO WAY ! Look at the date on this post, It all started five years ago and never got any better!!!! Who is the blame? The union? I don't think so.

so. cal., i feel for you guys.do any of you know what the terms were, that the co., wanted to take away. or is everything just one big rumor, about not producing and bad sales in so. cal. i would like to hear from both bctgm & teamsters, members, so that i can brief my fellow bros. we haven't heard a thing but rumors. we saw the dvd, and that was about the teamsters. i'll respect all comments and insights. member of local 4 st.louis. please respone. because this co. really stinks.....

hey anonymous in k.c. f off when they come for your job you might be confrontational also.i feel for you guys in ca.it is going to read the same in the northeast if they think we will take a 20,000 dollar pay cut.the end is near

This is compounded by a high fixed-cost structure, excessive workers' compensation costs and a confrontational relationship with one of the company's major unions. We don't feel sorry for you in So. Cal. You asked for it.

All joking and bitching aside I think anyone in SO CAL with less that 16 years needs to seriously, start looking for a job get your resume toghter go buy a tie and hit the streets with 15 years I certain I won't have a job come OCT. I'm gonna interview like a SOB. If some one calls to set up an interview with me and the only time they have open is at 10:30am on a thursday you better believe that now mattter where I am on that route I'm turning that truck around and heading back to the depot in plenty of time to make the interview..What are they gonna do FIRE ME! It's all about ME frome here on out.. You guys take care of yourselves fuck the company.

Do not beleive management propganda about how your union this is all a plan freinds posted by company hacks in management,who knows where this is headed but it aint good

All of you blaming the union for this are ignorant and have no balls to stand up to anything. If it were up to you scab thinking scum you would continue giving everything up and working for nothing, find a new job and stop crying about it. Did you not see it coming. You are dumber than you sound.

When are all of you going to learn that the Heads of the Unions only care about the Upper Midewest and Northeast where the majority of thier membership is and not within our industry. Just to retstae the obvious - the Heads of the Union SOLD YOU OUT they are protecting themselves and their own PENSIONS and H&W they do not care about the little schmuck paying his yearly dues on time. They are still driving their Excursions & Esclades while you drive an Escort.

Thank You Teamsters and BC&TGM your tough stand and not even allowing the real workers to make decisions for themselves have now cost me and wife our jobs. Are you going to pay our bills - I doubt it so much for paying our dues all these years - you sold us out - I hope that IBC does break your precious union - then maybe they will rehire us as non-union work force. UNION CAN KISS MY A$$.

SO MUCH FOR "TAKING BACK THE STREETS"! Well, there aren't that many consumers in CA anyway. Jung - blowhard and blow long.

This link will tell you all whats up. It is the official article out of K.C.K http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070828/20070828005428.html?.v=1

It looks like Jung is determined to break the Teamster. Just click on the link. http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070828/20070828005428.html?.v=1

I see jungy playing hardball might be time to strike nationwide,what are we peasants ,dont we deserve a decent wage and living,while jungy and his henchmen fill there pockets full of cash off the backs of workers. By the way stop your managment goofs posting acting like there workers so obvios its laughable.Heres the bottom line gang,the{ rat}wants to put you all on the street and fill your jobs with ileagles just like he did at pepsi.With the current administration up there in washington and these creep executives GREED IS GOOD.You let these creeps get there way start looking because your gone!!!My bills are higher and i already gave back to much and thats it .NO MORE GIVEBACKS STRIKE--STRIKE--STRIKEi have yet to see anything done about the good ol boy network of baloon managment most not needed.Wheres my cd rat ,go ask the guys at pepsi well this aint pepsi?All alleged perACLU

What a fantastic idea to not agree with the new plan - they aren't asking for much dumb ass teamsters. now I don't have a job. and don't say this is management - this is a UNION worker! ASSES

Thanks Teamsters - great job keeping our jobs. Guess less union dues for you.

I have to hand it to Jung, he's been in the background playing this out for awhile and after the Teamsters wise up IBC will come out of this. Watch, will end up taking 11 or 12 of the 20.

Hey Odie !! looking for a job their hiring " GAY BIKERS " at the RAZZBERRY BAR.

Southern California Details The four bread, bun and roll plants IBC intends to close are located in Glendale, Pomona, San Diego, and Los Angeles, California. In addition, the company plans to eliminate approximately 325 routes, and close 17 distribution centers and 19 outlet stores by October 29, 2007. The closings and consolidations are expected to impact approximately 1,300 employees.

Interstate Bakeries to Exit Bread Market in Southern California; Production, Sale and Delivery of Snack Cakes and Donuts to Continue Tuesday August 28, 7:00 am ET KANSAS CITY, Mo.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Interstate Bakeries Corporation (IBC) (OTC:IBCIQ - News) said today that, pending Bankruptcy Court approval and amendment of its debtor-in-possession (DIP) financing facility, it plans to exit the bread market in Southern California. The company plans to close four bread, bun and roll bakeries in Southern California and consolidate routes and distribution centers across the region. The company said its customers in Southern California can expect to continue receiving delivery of its bread products through October 20, 2007. IBC will continue to bake, sell, and deliver Hostess® and Dolly Madison® snack cakes and donuts in Southern California.

Thats funny, my chicken sandwich remark got more feedback than the serious situation this company is in. I guess it was our last meal before we're executed

Well what do you smart guys think now that they are shuting down these plants, who's goingto help out there fellow union bro, pay there bills.

Press Release Source: IBC Interstate Bakeries to Exit Bread Market in Southern California; Production, Sale and Delivery of Snack Cakes and Donuts to Continue Tuesday August 28, 7:00 am ET KANSAS CITY, Mo.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Interstate Bakeries Corporation (IBC) (OTC:IBCIQ - News) said today that, pending Bankruptcy Court approval and amendment of its debtor-in-possession (DIP) financing facility, it plans to exit the bread market in Southern California. The company plans to close four bread, bun and roll bakeries in Southern California and consolidate routes and distribution centers across the region. The company said its customers in Southern California can expect to continue receiving delivery of its bread products through October 20, 2007. IBC will continue to bake, sell, and deliver Hostess® and Dolly Madison® snack cakes and donuts in Southern California. I warned you all and this will not ne the only area we walk away from. Watch out North East

The rumors are true - Good bye (and good ridance) to the Souther Cal bread bakeries -WARN NOTICES in the mail - we are only keeping the cake plants - all of you will be let go effective 60 days. Cake plants dont relax though you either turn a profit or you will be gone next. Bottom Line - No Wonder/Beefsteak and no private label in So Cal anymore - we are walking away and Bimbo can have the dang market. The ones to blame are the Unions Members for this - they refused to cooperate.

i am glad i retired over a year ago. Having worked various office jobs, I saw the writting on the wall right after IBC purchased Hostess. Hostess people were all prima donnas in my opinion. They hated the brand Dolly Madison for so long they were antagonistic against all IBC employees. Take Chuck Smith...he hated hearing anyone saying "good morning dolly madison"...why? It was just the primary label that the plant was producing...but his hatred went beyond the pail. He told IBC GO that his "Hostess" depots would not blend into one with "Dolly" depots. So for very very very many years IBC was having to shell out for building rent, vehicles, gasoline, personell twice. It wasn't the "Dolly" people that were refusing to get along. It was the Hostess label. Why did IBC GO put up with that is probably because IBC had to accept for years and years Ralston Purina's fubars in Hostess who were mad because they were sold off. It defied common sense to have to pay double for everything instead of combing the routes and locations. Chuck Smith came into the offices just emitting bad vibes toward Dolly IBC. He was overheard threatening to "dicipline" with firing anyone who continues to mention "Dolly" on the phones when greeting the public. Why wasn't someone looking at the bottom line then? Was the company sooo big it could afford stupidity like that? Chuck reads these post because he makes comments about them in pasting by your desk..... Dolly Madison....Dolly Madison....having a great day at Dolly Madison.....Opps I did it again.

This sounds like a big scam.There has to be some kind of investigation done,an find out what really happened to this company.Who stole what,or were things went wrong u guys need to know the true story an should push this to the news channels.You guys need to know what happened.

This sounds like a big scam.There has to be some kind of investigation done,an find out what really happened to this company.Who stole what,or were things went wrong u guys need to know the true story an should push this to the news channels.You guys need to know what happened.

Interstate Bakeries Corp. wants more time to reorganize Interstate Bakeries has gained revenue, cut recent losses Associated Press KANSAS CITY, Mo. --Almost three years after filing for bankruptcy, Interstate Bakeries Corp. said Thursday it may ask for more time to develop a path back to profitability. In the meantime, however, the company reported a smaller annual loss. In its annual report, filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, the Kansas City-based maker of Hostess snack cakes and Wonder bread said it lost $112.8 million, or $2.50 per share, during the year ending June 2, which was an improvement from a loss of $128.3 million, or $2.82 per share, during fiscal year 2006. Annual revenues declined 4.6 percent from $3.06 billion to $2.92 billion, which the company said reflected a decline in demand for its products offset slightly by higher prices. Also in the filing, Interstate Bakeries said it has developed a new business plan and has begun sharing it with lenders and creditors in advance of an Oct. 5 deadline to submit a reorganization plan with bankruptcy officials. The company said, in connection with the plan, it has also begun negotiating with its employee unions for changes in how it distributes its products as well as concessions on health and welfare benefits. About 82 percent of the company's 25,000 employees are represented by unions, chiefly the International Brotherhood of Teamsters and the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union. Interstate Bakeries said its main plan is to emerge as a new company from bankruptcy. But it added that it was also evaluating other options. The company filed for Chapter 11 protection from creditors in September 2004, blaming declining sales and high costs. The company has appeared to make some progress this year as it's recorded six straight months of increasing revenue this year and reported a monthly profit during the four weeks ending June 30.

HEY GRILL ARE YOU STILL GOING TO GO TO TWINKIES . ORG AFTER YOU LEAVE WONDERBREAD. SO YOU GOING TO BE BORED LIKE SCOTT AZEVEDO AKA COWBOY AND WRITE ON TWINKIES?

WILLIAM TAKE A SHOWER YOU SMELLY BASTARD!!!!!!.

re: driver was the chicken that bad? no wonder one of the bun runner that ate the chicken has been sick for the last 3 day with food poisoning. i wonder who else got sick from porduction, sanitation,transportation from eating the chicken.

Watch out for another shell game? If any of your remember when they eliminated the positions of directors of Production, Sanitation and Engineering and changed all of there titles to Vice President of Production, Sanaitation and Vice President of Engineering? Well now we have or will be eliminating the current layer of Executive Vice Presidents to Mr. Jung? Yea right now these boys will have titles as General Managers. This will make it look like to the Unions that we have eliminated some higher positions, but in realality we have again only changed the name or position title so that it looks like to the unions we have cut some top positions when in fact they are still here but as a different title. To bad Mr. Jung does not know that this BS has already been done. I only hope the unions see through this shame. Its time to let this horse die.

1.10 hahahahahahahahah

Yep Its true sorry Southern cal, we heard that as of tommorrow you bread routes will be off the streets. Cake routes will not be affected.

Hey just got the news southern California will be getting there pink slips as of Tommorrow. Bread Routes only

WAZZ UP? MO FO'S?

so what you are saying is cut routes add more stops to the left over routes and just front door delivery,no receiving from the stores,looks like each route will have 15 chain stores a day.that's a good path to market plan

Cut Product line, merchandise hispanic stores to their buying habits not the same as white areas. Get rid of liquor stores, Drug stores!! Go to UPC delivery/charge..... Wal Mart, Sams, Staters, and Albertsons. Wal mart already has it with Sara Lee and we bake Staters and Albertsons P/L. It would cut service time by 35 to 50 %. No receiving, just stale, throw and go. That is the Path to Market to build this company back!!!

Name: Drivers Date: 2007-08-28 Location: Location:Sacramento, CA Comment: I'd like to say "Thankyou" IBC for the safety bonus (Dried out chicken sandwich) Chichen Wraps from the dollar menu at McDonalds would have been cheaper and tastier. Thank God for toilet paper at the depots It is people like you on the west coast that keep the company from moving forward. When your plant is closed or sold to none union emplyees maybe you will have seen the light.

censorship is alive and well on this site

I CAN'T POST ANYTHING!!! MAYBE CAUSE YOUR AN IDIOT, TEAMSTER DRIVER. OR SHOULD I SAY UPS DRIVER

oh, mr. jung, he already is getting more then the working man will ever get. just to come out of retirement, to rape us little people some more. guess he needs some extra gas money. well after you get your visa. oh, i thought that they extended to after the summer season. while your down there in mexico, look up mr. slim. hes the riches man in the world. maybe he could straighten this mess out that corporate made. while i was in cancun, enjoying the sun and drinks, walking around downtown meeting the locals. i stumble upon this one shop, and around the corner i seen a wnder bread truck. (bright yellow) very mexicana. to my surprise, wonder has a bakery down there. do you know if we get any revenue from that plant or is it a franchise that they sold to out of our country? wonder never surprises me. read the article from aug 16th. just reject all concessions. also stay in touch, let us know how your trip went. we all deserve one. i go next week for 11 days. maybe they will have an updated version of this so called planned dvd, by then..

Drivers, How fitting we made sure you had the dried ones, since you have all that whine to go with it.