I for one don't care about the union but Im going to do what I think is right I will not vote for a shitty contract like the one that was handed down! I have given enough to this company Teamsters does not control our destiny we DO,and I will not take that big of a pay cut if the union wimps out and calls a vote than I say vote no!I have no problem paying more on my medical but p.t.m and paycuts arent working!And maybe they should quit paying out bonuses if there so dam broke!They give stock out every year to the higher ups even though its not worth shit now buts its worth about as much as the higher ups deserve!! So if your union asks you to vote I say HELL NO!!!!!!

Some one please tell me why the creditors would vote to take new stock in ibc .will the rotten meat taste better next time.

It is almost a done deal, my sources have confirmed that the Glendale plant will be sold to a competitor and will re-open under a different name. Stay tuned for further details, I will continue to post to keep anyone who cares informed.

I just got off the phone with my union rep Berkle is done after seeing the books but someone else has been talking to the company for the last two days about buying us.

"Reaching an agreement with the IBT remains an essential contingency to consummation of the Silver Point Transaction and, therefore, confirmation of the Plan. The Debtors’ negotiations with the IBT have thus far not resulted in such an agreement. The IBT has stated that it would prefer that the Company liquidate to providing the Debtors with the modifications and concessions they have requested. If the Debtors cannot reach an agreement with the IBT, the Silver Point Transaction cannot be consummated as currently contemplated."---------------------Are you Teamsters f**king out of your mind???????????----------------- You are letting Volpe and Hoffa dictate your future?????????????--------------- These guys are getting paid big bucks from Burkle to partner up.------------I encourage all of you to look up Burkle and his history of taking over companies. His only goal is to turn businesses and make MONEY.--------------if YOU let Volpe and Hoffa team up with Burkle, you will ALL lose and the three of them will ALL make alot of MONEY.-----------Hey, if you all want to stay a Union Brother, fine, but DO NOT LET THESE THREE guys guide your future.------------------Good luck and again, I encorage you to be informed about Burkle.

So cheap...I can answer that, where else are you gonna find toilet paper for two cents a sheet. That's a F**kin' bargain my friend !!!

can anyone explain to me why IBC stock is still being bought?

Dan,why do you think Bimbo didn;t put in their final bid? because when they seen the actual numbers the co. had to show them,they were totally f up.would you buy a company that keeps stealing and raping? they seen the writing on the wall and so did yucapia.i just hope that silver point will do the same. this co. is getting EXACTLY what it deserves.

ame: XAN'T WAIT TO BE DONE WITH THIS 25yr NIGHTMARE Date: 2008-01-31 Location: Location:Glendale, CA Comment: In a poll of former coworkers here in Socal 3 out 5 W-2's show an inaccurate reporting of wages of 3k to 5k plus.......why? JANE ScHMIDT YOU IGNORANT SLUT??? IBC SUCKS RIGHT UP TO THE BITTER END =====================================================You shouldn't accepted all of those expensive Safety awards. All of those knife sets and wallets add up fast huh? LOL These are added to your income.. little did we know.

Sounds like Dirty is taking a beating for making stupid and ignorant racial comments. Dirty, do your homework, read up on the old Californios and Tejanos. I’m a descendant of Californios but I still get looked at and treated as if I just crossed the border illegally. Dirty, stop your “wetback” bashing and please educate yourself a little on the subject.

One of the best things a parent can do is not shovel our unhealthy food down their gullets. Twinkies, Ho-Hos, Cupcakes, artificial ingredient laden bread. Chunk up Porky...Have a Twinkie !!!!!

Well Gang. It looks like we're all in the same boat. Sink or Swim?!?! Let's just call it even, forge a truce. Union and non-union. Brass and Pee-ons. Bakers and RSRs. The ship is sinking. The SS Interstate is headed to Davey Jones Locker. PTM is headed our way. Can the people in SoCal survive on 35k a year? If Jung brings in new trucks and computers, can we really make money by 2010? During the grocery strike a few years ago, all we heard from the line crossers from back east was how they make 40k a year and live like kings. I don't claim to know how they live, but obviously they have NO clue what it's like to live here. It is what it is.

Someone please post the phone number for KC accounting

In a poll of former coworkers here in Socal 3 out 5 W-2's show an inaccurate reporting of wages of 3k to 5k plus.......why? JANE ScHMIDT YOU IGNORANT SLUT??? IBC SUCKS RIGHT UP TO THE BITTER END

Booneville, I do know the law regarding W-2's. I was HOPING to receive mine soon enough that I could get the correct version by Jan. 31. #of the last 4 years the company has had to print us an amended W-2 because they failed to do the first one right. I also know enough about law to know that by law, SEC filings are due in a timely manner. I guess we don't need a history lesson about IBC to see if the law was complied with. In addition, it was NOT my company who didn't follow the law, thus becoming a victim od a $120 MILLION lawsuit.

Gentlemen and others, as a former RSR of 20 years, I have to say: Get out while you can. I have a new job where I've had to start over at the bottom of the ladder. I'm take a pay cut of 5K per year as my starting pay. The hours will be just about the same. I'll never work in DSD again. Sure, I've had to bite the bullet and spend some savings to get through the unemployed times. I'll still have my house when all this shakes out though. Don't accept a 50% pay cut for the same or very similar work. Give notice now, while the company is still required to pay you for your vacations and such. Check and see what happened to the SoCal people. A lot of you bought stock, and lost all your investment. Did the company offer to reimburse you? You will lose everything including your dignity if you stay until the bitter end. Do yourself a good deed. I miss my customers and fellow employee's, I don't miss the company. A word to the wise.

Dirty Sanchez - You are one racist mother. Ve a chingar a tu madre cabron. Cambiate el nombre de Sanchez a Redneck. Hijo de puta. If you were over here I'd give you and your family a Columbian neck-tie.

Boonville, You are a suck ass, And were did you get the idea you are supossed to keep use informed on the BK. Did they make up that position also? If we need information we can use Google .

Boon,////// Surely, even you should be able to see just how damned foolish it looks to the average rsr to watch as the company suddenly decides to do superficial and costly building repaints, etc. at the same time they are asking for us to not only work 3+ years with a stagnant wage level but to give back even more. At my branch (30+routes) they had the mechanic painting and told him to let the maintenance on the trucks go! Sorry, but I would place the vehicle maint on a fleet of 20 - 30 yr old vehicles above suddenly deciding the place needs some paint! You can't put lipstick on a pig and make it any more attractive. If this was supposed to boost morale somehow, I can tell you it was just the opposite. Another example of a foolish waste of money that we didn't have.

JESUS!!!Are you people THAT dumb? Look at what Jung outlined as his four points to improve IBC. Them look at where the money has been spent. This isn't rocket science, although anything above a third grade level would be a challenge to most of you.

That is why they have come up with the 5-S program. Every body thought it was to fix up the bakery to sell. The plan was made to spend money hand over fist and show a loss. And don't forget about all those new QA jobs we made up. Never had them before why now????

Have to agree with Knoxville and Dan. It sure appeared to me that the Co was deliberately trying to spend money. We are in a dislocated branch (leased) and they werespending money installing storage shelving, painting, repairing floors, installing new doors. Why now, when we've tried for years to get approval for some of these. Looks damned suspicious to me also. Obviously isn't investment as we don't even own the property!

to all u non -union and management morons(not all of u)who post your union bashing rhetoric,you need to get out of your smelly little cubicles and run a route>>think about it >>hey.without IBT to run routes you will lose a lot of market share before your able to hire enough scabs to run routes.better start lining up the immigrants.I YAH

Finally the board is awake with some relevant comments. Knoxville is obviously looking at the books and understanding why the company is posting a loss; while K.C. is looking to fill in the blanks about personnel and employment. Knoxville, had the company spent some of the 112 million dollars in professional fees that it has paid out over the last three years on productive means it would have gone a long way to correct the problem. Look at last months MOR the high cost of unionized labor is what they consistently blame but if you look at the operating cost it doesn't reflect this. Why almost 3 mil a month on fees, 12 mil on non-distribution costs. Hmm, are we bleeding the rock? K.C. training is one thing the company is lacking, however it is not what you suggest, it is in sales. Jung may know how to cut and run but he doesn't know how to create, that is where the shortcoming lies.

true we may be fucked but we will take as many with us as we can got that anom kc

I meant Zionist camel spider!

Oh Yes it's a Jewish camel spider!

To Knoxville, why is the judge wasting 6 more weeks on a vote if the Secured Creditors vote overides the Unsecured Creditors???

YES,..definitely! it's a camel spider!

A Camel Spider?

whats up jays ass lately

#1 W-2 has to be post marked by 1-31-2008 #2 IBT will be working for someone else soon. On the road weeks at a time and only home every other weekend, have to pay twice as much for there insurance, you will be crying. Take a poll. Every time you have changed jobs, it wasn’t as good as it looked from the other side.

anonymous in Sacramento, CA ,,,What we have in America is a disaster.you racist shit up your ass,,,, you corporate fucking hack,,,,,Only the Vatican and big business are for free immigration. Do you know Why?

St Louis you are one of the worse run plants, Why do you think they are in there, They are trying to fix you. Ask yourself why are the people are quitting. Look around; Have to keep sending people to keep you running. Formula all screwed up. Can’t bake cake or bread.

You must think I'm for slavery. A you that fucking stupid? You need to educate yourself on whats going on i n U.S.A. I don't the U.S.A. to be just like Mexico!!!. I need to stay on this site to educate you dumb mother fuckers...Don't make me school you.

Speak English, Dumb fuck. You're in U.S.A.

Dirty Sanchez you are a fucking moron. You pinche, cabron, hijo de puta. Mete todo esta mierda racista en tu culo.

Just a little tidbit from the past.... operation wetback,June 17, 1954..... If the current administration wanted to do something about the illegal immigration problem,,,,It worked than and it would work now!!!! But they want cheap labor for corporate interest. Wake up U.S.A.,,,Start learning whats going on! http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html

the only thing u r forgeting is no concessions no loan everything allright just no ptm or sign clause when ptm falls on its face we go back to current cba or get your loan without teamsters sell wonder to weston with that money do your ptm pipedream jung

why, are all of these people from around the country and hdqs. coming to our plant, in st. lou. there are telling me that we are the most efficient out of the system. if thats the case. there really is no future for this co. i know that we are good at most things that we produce. but come on. or, are they just seeing how, to straighten out the other problem plants. to see how to operate properly, before they close the doors. (rwp)

why, are all of these people from around the country and hdqs. coming to our plant, in st. lou. there are telling me that we are the most efficient out of the system. if thats the case. there really is no future for this co. i know that we are good at most things that we produce. but come on. or, are they just seeing how, to straighten out the other problem plants. to see how to operate properly, before they close the doors. (rwp)

One more thing I forgot to add. Everyone cries about the money the company is losing this month or this quarter think about this. If you are in bankrupcy and trying to get concessions from your employees why would you try to make profit? Do you realize how much money we are spending on bullshit just to keep from making money? Man its tough trying to lose money right now huge legal fees, new products,new wide pan bread being developed, traveling to everywhere. Rember when we filed the last 10k report we had a paper loss but we made real money. The company nearly shit, we spent money fixing everything. You guys thought we were fixing things for future bidders that was bull. We were trying like hell not to show a profit that would be disasterous to the bk move .

JM in orlando What this means is the company filed a plan. The company now has to ask creditors to accept this plan and receive 66% approval before asking the judge to give final approval of the plan. The unsecured creditors will probably vote no as well as the pension funds. But the company will get approval from jpmorgan chase bank and they hold 68% of the debt. As a matter of fact they got that approval today ALL secured debtholders will vote yes because they will be paid 100% in the form of stock. Rember banks are greedy and if they are given stock and the co makes profit stock goes up banks make killing. If the company cannot make money in 2010 then the company owes the banks nothing as they took stock instead of money. Just rember the banks are greedy and IBC is in the position to make money keep in mind we are currently paying intrest in post filing debts that will go away. Also going away is money being spent on the bankrupcy case and money being spent on lawsuits as most of these will also go away in the form of unsecured debt (26 cents on the dollar). The unions will work out a agreement with the company it might not be PTM but something will be worked out as they will have to when the co. gets 66% vote and venters signs off. Keep in mind all thoes who want to piss and moan I am not saying that I agree with everything but these are the facts that we presently have,.

u r going to have 3 guys working on a route del rsr swing there all going to make 80000 a year as we make in northeast I don't think so that's y we choose liqidation over ptm taxs on your house is 9000 10000 a year can't pay bills making 50000 a year we pay our bills not like ibc they can't manage a checkbook that's y there bankrupt no ptm or liqadate

Why does everyone think with PTM rsr's will have 4 or 5 stops and only work partime? each stop will take a hour or two in the morning, then each will be back called in the afternoon to restock and sell. You will still be working 12 hr. days

To: anonymous Denver, CO.Who are you going to blame when PTM doesn't work? The workers as usual? Even though It would be hard not to make money with the workers pay cut so deeply. You really don't need PTM with that kind of pay cut.

Judgine by some of the posts I've read it looks as though we need to invest some of our money into more diversity and sensitivity training.

dontbuyibcstock is a ass kisser with his boss and a tattle tale. scum bucket

u will get 5.5 percent commission but u will have 4 or 5 stops your job will be easier it will be like a parttime job making money is over

W2 date!!!! Feb.2, or company can be find.

What happened to IBC's relationship with Accenture? They were supposed to save this company 4-5 years ago. Did they dump IBC or did IBC just refuse to change? Was the bankrupcy planned by Accenture years ago?

twinkies jesus, since your already an expert at taking it up the ass,can we teamsters borrow what little KY you have left.teamsters are already pissed off at your cheap ass union for sucking up to jung's plan SCABFACE,if you had any balls,you would NEVER have agreed .if you think for one minute we're going to be doing the same job for 5% your crazy butt fuck,never going to happen, like teamsters said ,we'd rather ibc liquidate than keep going in the oppisite direction.your supervisors calling you,you better get back to your ben't over position.

I would rather flip Yumbo Yacks at Yack in the Box than go work at la IBC. Tell Senor Yung he can chove el PTM up his nalgas. My advise to all ju Teamsters is to strike if Yung imposes hees proposals on ju guys. VIVA LA HUELGA!!!

DEFIANCE: Since you brought it up...part of my job with IBC is to communicate with employees concerning the BK...where we've been, where we're headed...BTW...want to name one time that I posted something on here that didn't turn out to be right? As far as your W2...learn the law. W2 must be SENT to employees NO LATER than Jan. 31. a postmark on the envelope of Jan 31 is completely within the "law".

The 29th came & went . Here's another delay & IBC continues to hide the money ; while it declares losses .

Poncho, you are correct sir. But I need that time to find a job where I won't have to work 12 hrs. a day and still get critisized for not having a sticker on a honeybun. They will just shrug and no hablo engles.

mexican wetbacks couldnt do the job because they couldnt speak english to get checked in at walmarts back door

oops Anonymous must be a loser supervisor who knows he can't be a real salesman thats why he took the supervision job in the first place

Father Pat My Groin. You dumb fuck. If all of the RSR call in sick for two weeks the Mexicans will take their jobs.

BIG WIGS IN KANSAS CITY EMBARRASSED?OH CMON NOW ...BE REALWHEN YOUR PULLING IN THE KIND OF MONEY THEY ARE THERES NO EMBARASSMENT JUST A SMIRK and a wink

isn't it funny how all of these pro IBC posters and shittalkers are anonymous??? Stand strong and united Teamsters!!

Hey Denver DICKHEAD, you say we can't strike. What the fuck is baking little bitch ass gonna do if all of the routesalesmen call in sick for a couple of weeks? Maybe you can pound all that product that will be sitting on the dock up your ASS!

why is it supervisors are always sitting in there office on the phone when I get back? Certainly not on phone with company business trust me..... I saw 1 using his computer typing up his resume and using copy machine to make copies.... Go out on market and score bread and get displays instead of making the rsr's do it

As a BCT member, I do want to see this company survive. However, with all due respect Booneville.... I have to wonder just howmany people in management this company is compensating to sit in their office in front of a computer and banter back and forth on a site such as this. I would love to see something productive accomplishes... like getting our W-2 forms to us in a lawful manner

In order for this company to survive, there MUST be a total mindset change by management. Their current method is to throw more and more paperwork at the problems that exist. We have safety committees, food defense committees and now the 5 S comittee. In my opinion, much of these added burdens are useless. They cost the company money and prove nothing. I think it is merely a case of someone in management inventing another worthless program to make their bosses think that they are really busy. So many things that are done in this company is merely someone justifying their job. About 3 months ago, the sales management team was overhauled. It eliminated 215 management jobs in sales alone. No one has even missed these people. It makes me wonder just howmany more management positions could be eliminated and not be missed.

Btw UNIONS ROCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PTM is a no go

I'm not saying the judge should rule against IBC in every decision,but to rule in favor of IBC in all decisions only means one thing.No one wants this company.The end is near.

Just another management type lets kiss wal-marts,meijers and krogers ass and shit on the small guys out there.. sure I'll go up against you and I bet I make 1,000 more a week because I stop at the other guys while you go to just your major stops

Are you ready for this: Scab labor wages for all teamsters. Alright boys if you want to keep a job, you are going to have to pucker up and take it like a man. Consessions and all or there will be no more wonderbread. So, how does it feel to know that your unskilled BAKERS will be making more money than you. In fact you may cease to exist pretty soon. And for those of you that think you're gods gift to a lead position, you are not wofth shit. You will never find a job such as the one you have now. You will be reduced to SCAB labor. You have waited too long, you're done. Most of you drivers and FOREMEN won't get shit for a good job. For those of you that think you have what it takes to get a preferred position, you better think again. As a SCAB you have to work and thats something your day transport foreman doesn't know how to do anymore. So, take my advice and get the KY jelly ready......

Company lost another $19 million dollars on sales of $197.5 million. the company continues to close plants and trim the work force and the losses get bigger. This Judge must be smoking crack to allow this to go on like this. And our Big Wigs in Kansas City must be embarrased to no end that they just can't put Humpty Dumpty together again. Our Management Team just don't get it. The company is getting smaller and our losses our getting bigger.

there will not be any rsr's in 6 months

many at my branch bought company stock through payroll deduction. We were all proud to work here. It now appears as though IBC has taken that. It looks likewe're going to get a big pay cut. We work 60+ hours a week make about 50 G's, not many going to do that for 30 or 35 G's. I guess it really don't matter, the company don't want RSR's anymore, just truck drivers and merchandisers. PTM is really nothing more than drop ship. I can't tell you how motivated I feel right now. I would just like to hear SOMETHING from ou company. We all try to stay positive, but if its time to move on, I wish they would just come out and tell us

I have a question about the court ruling.. Does this mean IBC is out of chapter 13? Or is it just another extension to try out this new plan? Thanks

Does more competitive pricing go alond with PTM? Cause right now no one is buying my $2.19 white bread

Defiance, You can service $25 /week stops all week long. I'll just concentrate on kicking your ass in the stop that matters. id love to run against you

Ask your forman what happens to YOUR pension if we liquidate. You think a company that takes a piece of IBC wants to fund YOUR pension? Get a clue IBT and get on board.

you anti- teamsters are happy as possums eating shit....huh? My say as a teamster is about the same as ONE vote for president. It really doesnt mean jack shit. You think if I went up to my union rep and said "hey man, tell the higher ups to take whatever the company offers us". What do you think would happen....nothing. I just want a job, plain and simple with enough income to support my family. So when assholes like you biddeford sit there and talk shit to the teamsters, think about who your really talking about. I'm sure there is probably a handful of people just like me, that just want to WORK and get paid for it.

Then I'll just change my name..what a moron least I can make up a name instead of being a no-one

PTM is a joke..SIMPLE AND TRUE.. any stop who does less than 50/wk must call in there orders and order $50 or suffer a charge and then theres the fact they have to eat the stale.. What small store is going to do that...UMMM NONE... not with everything in this country on the rise due to Bush and his team.. I drive past these places everyday and though 1 major store is good deliverying to these mom/pop stores is like another major store since I go buy them anyway to get to the next "major" stop

DEFIANCE: Quit wasting your time posting. No one will read them. After your initial comments, you've shown yourself to be an irrelevant of everything wrong with this company.

Profitable by 2010? Come on who's fat wet dream is that... Please even with financing no way.. New handhelds with wireless tech... New delivery and route trucks from step vans to box trucks and aging semi fleet.. NOW WAY AGAIN..Aging plants and equipment failures NOW WAY 3...And of course managers like jung and his pepse/lay buddies taking it all with them NOW WAY 4

HAHAHAHA my way is so much better actually dont care if this company goes down or not...Just love seeing you get a rise out of being bashed....UNIONS ROCK

DEFIANCE: You are a true asshole. Don't get your way so now you gotta show your class by "momma" jokes? Pathetic. Is that what being a Teamster is all about?

WHAT Anonymous no answer yet? get out from under youngs desk trying to save your job and get to work...He says you arent that good at giving head its your mom he really likes... UNIONS ROCK

And of course it was to be expected another extension its number 30... Man that judge must be getting real fat with all that IBC bribe money... Just say no mre extensions and watch as they grab the neares union member saying yes we will let bimbo and yuc buy us

Actually retard I was enjoying my day off as contracted thru the UNION and the retard company. Down with IBC up with union we held up our end and gave in all these concessions just for the retards to ask for more.. and your wrong we also have a vote in the judges findings so no PTM will not be a go

U all will see when we next hear from Dickie V. !!!

Kind of quiet this morning...where's all that chest-thumping Teamster bravado? Licking your wounds?

Teamsters....BROTHER THIS !!!! You would sell your Brother, your Sister, your Mother and all your illegitimate kids for a 25 cent pay raise. Your cause is hopeless. If you want a job here you'll have no choice but to take it. So, move somewhere else.

Shipping and Transport foremen: Now that IBC is retaining this co. the doors will close for sure. That is when you 5 can come in when ever you want and stay as long as you want. Enjoy.

WHAT EMPLOYEES DO YOU THINK REALLY WONTS THE GLENDALE BAKERY TO REOPEN? NOT MY WHITES X-COWORKERS,AND FOR SURE NOT THE BLACKS WORKERS.ONLY THE MEXICANS WHO WILL RUN THE COMPANY STRIGH TO HELL, BY HIRING WETBACKS,JAILBIRDS AND COCK SUCKING BITCHES YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE LIFE IS ROUGH NOW THAT YOU HAVE TO PLAY FAIR

Steve I guess you got your answer now. Next time you see your cousin in a resturant maybe you should just say hi glad to see you instead of the nasty grilling about what the hell IBC is doing or where it's going. Because we really don't give a rats ass we've been retired for years now. If you really want to know go out and look at IBCQT on the stock market like the rest of us and read the articles there.

Dolly Madison in Los Angeles is next to close

From the Honorable Judge Jerry Venters Re: BK.."I think, quite frankly, we need to move this case along and find out if this plan works," he said, "and if not, we'll go from there.

To all our brethren...since we've totally shown that we know how to better run a baking company, we can now boast how we best know how to handle bankruptcy. This is fortunate for you, our members, since many of you will find your houses being foreclosed upon, losing your new vehicles, and your children having to drop out of college. We are here to help. You've often wondered why you've paid so much in dues and felt they were going to waste. Well, now...in your hour of need, you finally see what we as Teamsters are all about. We are here...we've always been here. We know what's best for you and are here to help. Much like FEMA, we are prepared to meet any crisis before and as it occurs. Rapid response. It does not matter that you will no longer be a money generating resource for us, we do still care. Really. Honestly. We care. Please contact your local or you can always call our emergency 800 number for personable 24/7 assistance. If all else fails contact your local." Sincerely, James Hoffa, Jr.

IBT will not cave on the PTM issue!! Jung will have to see if Countrywide will finance there bullshit plan...........ALL done sell it all off we don't give a crap we closed in OCT 2007 IBC Gone forever just a bad memory now

Will the Union now agree with the Company so that the financing will go through?

TO BIDDFORDE------------"If anyone needs housing, contact your local and they will be more than happy to hook you up with all your nearest shelters and government assistance centers. Union Strong !!!!!!!------------------ I AM LMFO---------------GO TEAMSTERS --------------HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA -------------FKN DUMBASSES

"Teamsters...we've fought the good fight. I'm very proud of all of you for standing strong as brothers and sisters. We have shown Jung and the world what we are made of. We are eternally strong!! For those of you that still need work, please contact your local hall and see what postings are available. We appreciate you standing together as one!!! If any of you need help filling out your unemployment applications or need government assistance, again, contact your local...it's the least we can do as brothers...we are here to help...that's what brothers do. Stand strong!!!! For anyone needing financial assistance or help filing bankruptcy we are there for you...contact your local. Teamsters have always stood by their brothers, that's what makes us strong!!!!! If anyone needs housing, contact your local and they will be more than happy to hook you up with all your nearest shelters and government assistance centers. Union Strong !!!!!!!

Go talk to Joe! Joe who? JOE MAMA

Yes, G. Allen...it's time you move on and get a life. Unless, you have more balls than your post makes it sound like. What makes you think things are over....hang in there and see what happens. You've given too many years to give it up. You are smarter than that.

I wanted to say good bye and God Bless all of You and Your Families. I have always had a respect for the Baker and the Bread Salesman and the Company. I have been on a Route and in a Bakery since 1960 and my Father since 1950. Thanks for the memories. Take care.

Teamsters....Eat Shit!!! Face it., you have not choice but to accept the Company's plan. No opportunity to strike, nothing. If the creditors accept the plan, the court will force you to negotiate, work with the Company, and eventually accept PTM. Nothing you can go but quit if you don't like it. Save yourself the time and quit now. All of you that don't understand, listen.....you were a part of this losing situation and you will be a part of the solution. Don't continue to be ignorant losers....for once in your life your try to use your common sense...especially you, Dirty Sanchez.

Hey Boonville,I was weaned on pain And reared by adversity. I never expected this to go easy. To much fun to quit now!

Now's when you're gonna see the bitch-ass teamsters finally take their pantyhose down and reveal their vaginas. Those bitch-ass pussies have been hoping beyond hope that some miracle would materialize. They thought that that cross-dressing Burkle would come in save the day. WRONG. They now have to finally, somehow, someway, convince their moronic members that they've had their best interests in mind the whole time. I can hear it now, "This is exactly what we wanted to happen...blah, blah, blah....we have them right where we want them...blah, blah, blah....we're going to agree to PTM, we've planned on that all along...blah,blah,blah...so we can show everyone we were right and that it won't work...blah,blah,blah...once that happens they'll hire you all back that got fired and give everybody 80% raises because they have no choice...blah,blah,blah...we are right...blah,blah,blah...and oh yeah, we're raising your dues because we're so awesome...blah,blah,blah...kiss my ring....Hoffa...blah,blah,blah...Volpe for President...blah,blah,blah...we feel your pain....we love you...blah,blah,blah...brotherhood...blah,blah,blah...etc."

Now's when you're gonna see the bitch-ass teamsters finally take their pantyhose down and reveal their vaginas. Those bitch-ass pussies have been hoping beyond hope that some miracle would materialize. They thought that that cross-dressing Burkle would come in save the day. WRONG. They now have to finally, somehow, someway, convince their moronic members that they've had their best interests in mind the whole time. I can hear it now, "This is exactly what we wanted to happen...blah, blah, blah....we have them right where we want them...blah, blah, blah....we're going to agree to PTM, we've planned on that all along...blah,blah,blah...so we can show everyone we were right and that it won't work...blah,blah,blah...once that happens they'll hire you all back that got fired and give everybody 80% raises because they have no choice...blah,blah,blah...we are right...blah,blah,blah...and oh yeah, we're raising your dues because we're so awesome...blah,blah,blah...kiss my ring....Hoffa...blah,blah,blah...Volpe for President...blah,blah,blah...we feel your pain....we love you...blah,blah,blah...brotherhood...blah,blah,blah...etc."

well,well,well,where are we now?the same place we were.funny how some things never change.like i said in a previous post we still have jobs for now.but not for long,things will eventually change.

sorry fly I only made 80,000 last year but I sold over 580,000 dollars in bread so where is the other 500,000 sure isnt spent on quality ingredients.. IBC is hiding behind the BK with 112 million dollars in legal fees since filing.

Dog and Pony show people. Read the last third of Jungs press release.This company can still be bought. Agreements can still be reached not a victory for anyone at this point. I'd love to play poker with some of you guys...IBT is silent for a reason.....all of ibcs cards are played and now the game begins....Oh FU in advance Booneville you over paid clerical worker!

the only thing that happen today is we stay employed till march 14 otherwise nothing changed unsecured creditors object teamsters will not agree to ptm silverpoint will not loan to ibc with routemen in the north and west making 90000 95000 they must work for 55000 60000 to carry rest of company ibc is still dead men walking just prolonging there death the judge just keeps putting off there exacution

the only thing that happen today is we stay employed till march 14 otherwise nothing changed unsecured creditors object teamsters will not agree to ptm silverpoint will not loan to ibc with routemen in the north and west making 90000 95000 they must work for 55000 60000 to carry rest of company ibc is still dead men walking just prolonging there death the judge just keeps putting off there exacution

ANON/GRAND RAPIDS: You are now out there on an island alone. Teamsters against the world. Your chances just took a fatal turn for the worse. DIRTY: Keep hopin', son!! 95% of creditors have already backed the plan.

How's things in SoCal?

Is the yucaipia/teamsters deal dead now or is there still a chance? Besides liquidation?

AND... Just how long will it take Hector and Mini Hector to spin-doctor this one. "Oh, come on you guys. Good news is just around the corner. Hang in there my Brothers."

you know i have wrote this before but nobody wants to say anything about this cause they know it `s true . the whole reason you put the dolly back out there is do away with our jobs. cause why would it be 20 cents cheaper then what we are now. you know there alot of us out there that still cares about this place i don`t no why but we do. everything is to high the people around us is cheaper then we are and that hurts all i`m doing is puting it out and it sits out thereuntil the last day before it goes out of date. then we might get lucky and sell it. if you really want to know what going on talk to the route man the one who cares will tell you the truth there alot of questions i have. all i`m doing is worried about my job. you are more then welcome to email me back.....

Inside how in the _UCK can you implement PTM ( path to market) without the IBT ? you moron liquidation is next unless Silverpiont changes their requirements to fund the flawed plan

If yiu own stock, will it become worthless?

Just got out of a meeting. Alot rosier than yesterday's. It looks like Silverpoint will be on board, barring something I'm not at liberty to say. We don't need many more than them and JP to pull this off. This was what we were hoping for, but could not guarantee it. Getting ready to go to dinner with the group to discuss where we go from here. I'm just glad to be done with all the day-to-day paperwork that's involved with Chap. 11. Now that we're freed up from the majority of that we'll really be able to concentrate our full efforts where they belong, implementing PTM and improving the day-to-day affairs of bringing us up from the ashes. Thanks to all of you for hanging in there.

I was told they already started "Path to Market " in Tennesee is this true? If it is How's it Working?

bct here,you have urs coming you ibt,pampered assholes.i hope you get it good.:<)

You sill have to have a union vote fuckface. We'll shut it down before we take a 50% cut in pay. By the way that is in their proposal Boonville. One half of the commission.

OGDEN THE COMPANY I HEARD IS GOING TO CLOSE THE BREAD LINE THERE AND BILLINGS WILL DO THE BREAD. SAVINGS WOULD BE HUGE SORRY OGDEN YOU ARE EXPENDABLE BYE BYE

Bend over. Take a deep breath. Stick your head up your ass. You can remove it on March 14.

i knew jung would pull a rabbit out of his hat;;;;

alex shut up wake up and find a real job with a real company so your old lady can stop stripping asshole loser

Let's see,,,,Get worthless stock and wait to 2010 to become profitable? I know I wouldn't take a chance on jung's pipe dream. I'd vote for Liquidation!!!!!

Why would someone from another company take time out of their day to post negative comments on this message board? You obviously have no life. Even the people you work with know you are a complete idiot. The fact that you are taking pleasure from the struggles of other people shows what a low life scum bag you are. It's not as if Sara Lee is doing great. You're living proof that any loser with a computer can get on this site and post messages, and no one can stop you, wow! what an accomplishment. You really are pathetic, if you have half a brain you can see that. But let me just tell you right now Mr. Computer tough guy, if you come around me talking that shit, I'll slap you like the bitch you are. If you have a problem with any of that let me know, Lansing's not a big town I'm sure we know a lot of the same people. My route is on the West side, I'm not hard to find.

Besides the plan is still up for a vote of creditors, Maybe they wont accept 0-30¢ on the dollar? And who's going to wait for worthless stock?

KANSAS CITY, Mo.--(BUSINESS WIRE)----Interstate Bakeries Corporation (IBC) (OTC:IBCIQ) today announced that the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the Western District of Missouri in Kansas City has ruled that the Company's First Amended Disclosure Statement contains adequate information for the purpose of soliciting creditor approval for the Plan of Reorganization. The Company expects that the Plan materials and ballots will be mailed by February 4, 2008. The deadline for returning the ballots is March 3, 2008. A hearing to confirm the Plan is scheduled for March 12, 2008. The cornerstone of the amended Plan of Reorganization is the commitment by Silver Point Finance, L.L.C. to provide the Company with up to $400 million in exit financing upon IBC's emergence from Chapter 11 and the agreement by holders of approximately 95% of the Company's pre-petition senior credit facility to support the Plan of Reorganization. The amended Plan of Reorganization remains contingent on the Company reaching a mutually acceptable agreement with the International Brotherhood of Teamsters (Teamsters). "We are pleased that the Court approved our Disclosure Statement, as that means we continue to have a credible business plan capable of paving our emergence from Chapter 11 and achieving sustainable profitability," said Chief Executive Officer Craig Jung. "The Court's approval of the Company's Disclosure Statement also means that Silver Point's committed financing will remain in place and available until March 14, 2008. "Our sincere hope is that the Teamsters understand that management continues to be available and open to reaching a mutually acceptable agreement with Teamsters Union leadership, or alternatively that a plan of reorganization is proposed that provides the same or greater value to our constituents, has committed financing, and has the support of all our unions," Mr. Jung said. The Company continues to believe that its Plan of Reorganization represents the best alternative to maximize value for its constituents in the Bankruptcy process, build competitive advantage and secure jobs for 24,000 IBC employees. At the same time, the Company said it continues to explore other alternatives to maximize creditor recovery in the event a Plan of Reorganization that allows the entire Company to emerge from Chapter 11 as a single entity cannot be implemented, including a potential sale of the Company in its entirety or in a series of transactions

Sorry honey, Not yet!

DIRTY: Got your resignation filled out yet?

CHESTY: Didn't we have a little wager?

things stay the same nothing changes well judge maybe in a year when there back you will make the right choice. good luck teamsters you will need it i quit i will get a better job with better management. Anon you are an asshole i would like to find you so i could kick your ass you need it. but just like the bitch you are you will do all your talking on this site. by the way eight years ago is when So Cal started going down ya you are a great managment. P.S. your still on boonevilles dick!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dont worry guys my 3 year old just got 50 dollars out of her piggy bank she says she is interested in buying IBC . I told her hold off the price will go lower

just found 25 cents in my couch i can buy 8 shares of ibc stock

pomona, explain yourself,your lips are still glued to your bosses ass.i know it's hard to and you don't want to unglue those precious lips because the next guy waiting in line may take your job but do try and make a little sense this time.what are you trying to say?

denny keith of lansing go to the corner and eat your boogers,and let the big boys talk.

LATEST SHIZZ FROM JUWANNA MANN................................................ ....Posted on Tue, Jan. 29, 2008 04:44 PMreprint or license print email Digg it del.icio.us AIM Interstate Bakeries gets OK to proceed with reorganization plan By JENNIFER MANN The Kansas City Star A bankruptcy judge in Kansas City has given Interstate Bakeries Corp. permission to send out its disclosure statement, including its plan of reorganization, to creditors for a vote. The move comes 3 ½ years after the Kansas City-based maker of iconic brands such as Wonder bread and Hostess Twinkies filed for bankruptcy protection amid declining sales and rising costs. The plan goes out to creditors with at least one significant issue unresolved – an agreement with the International Brotherhood of Teamsters that IBC says it needs to implement a new delivery system that will give it a chance at future success. At the insistence of the Teamsters, IBC agreed to insert language in its disclosure statement – a document that contains all the information necessary for a creditor to decide whether to vote for the plan or not – that makes clear that IBC and the Teamsters have not had substantive discussions since October. The plan calls for Interstate’s lenders to receive a full recovery of the $450 million the group is owed in the form of new stock. Other creditors, according to the plan, are slated to receive anywhere from 30 cents on the dollar to nothing. To reach Jennifer Mann, call 816-234-4453 or send e-mail to jmann@kcstar.com

the sara lee rsr are so stupid in lansing they light off fireworks in there face.

SO YOU NOW CONTROL THE INTERNET DAM I AM GOING TO LOSE MY JOB, BETTER GET A NEW JOB DO YOU WANT FRIES WITH THAT WHAT AN ASSHOLE

The judge says yes to IBC. http://www.kansascity.com/business/story/466407.html

keith of lansing why are you even on this site? if ptm is a go, you boys are next THATS A FACT..

It's true that the dumbass judge got another payment and is letting IBC go through with their plan. It's in the k.c. star

Better talk IBT! Or we will go on with out you! You can get a job driving somewhere else and you will be home every other week end. But I do agree we need to fire all the ones who got us to this position and go with a new set of stiff shirts. OR WE WILL BE BACK HERE IN TWO YEARS.

the plan goes to lenders for a vote

LETS REMEMBER WHO IS LOSEING THEIR JOB FOR NOT SELLING BREAD OH THAT WOULD BE YOU

Hey Kara. I heard you son is going to audition for little baby broke back,at M.J.'s never never land, for the sperm banker.

goodbye good ridence ibc long live FLOWERS BAKING COMPANY

the sara lee rsr in lansing are worthless

Any Updates?

DID YOU HEAR THAT? THERE IT WAS AGAIN...DID YOU HEAR THAT? OH, NEVER MIND, THAT WAS ONLY DICK VOLPE'S ASSHOLE PUCKERING. FUCKING IBT LOSERS

That recent anon-Kc post was not from me...I cannot say anything right now, I'm waiting to hear straight from the top what went down because I'm not sure what I've heard is correct.

You mean good by IBC, because we will STRIKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kara Baker: mis tacos son frescos: your panties have skid marks from here to Salt Lake City,to Washington. J.P. Moreno Valley.

Judge approved the plan, now teamsters have less than one month to come to the table and talk or the Judge will decide for them. He hinted at throwing their contract out and making it more like the Bakers. Good bye IBT.

Graig Jung stocks are falling at pepsi They need you Back......

I'm confused, how many times should I salute Mr. Jung? He posted the same message over ten times! Good to see him interacting with the help here on the web. Guess there's not to much for him to do these days. Not that he ever did much! Hey fellas if you see him rub his head for good luck! Just back from the pharmacy, feeling better now.

So what happened in court today??? Does anyone know??

Name: dd Date: 2008-01-29 Location: Location:Buffalo, NY Comment: pomona, hard work didn't get you promoted to all those positions,your lips did.KISS ASS. /////dd - You just proved my point didn't you.

listen dipshit the co did lose cust these letters this week have chapter 7 liqadation on them your cust see that your depot is not going to lose any rest it does not matter unsecured creditors objected to the plan they want more money

TO DENNY FROM GRAND RAPIDS FUCK OFF I AM NOT LOSING MY JOB YOU ARE OH WAIT YOU ARE NOT DENNY YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER UNION STEWARD!!!!!!!! SO FUCK OFF

Judge Venters new order consist the facts that Craig Jung past military experience gives him the right to do whatever he wants with this company. Now that path to market is coming that to friution we must now salute this bastard..........

Judge Venters new order consist the facts that Craig Jung past military experience gives him the right to do whatever he wants with this company. Now that path to market is coming that to friution we must now salute this bastard..........

Judge Venters new order consist the facts that Craig Jung past military experience gives him the right to do whatever he wants with this company. Now that path to market is coming that to friution we must now salute this bastard..........

Judge Venters new order consist the facts that Craig Jung past military experience gives him the right to do whatever he wants with this company. Now that path to market is coming that to friution we must now salute this bastard..........

Judge Venters new order consist the facts that Craig Jung past military experience gives him the right to do whatever he wants with this company. Now that path to market is coming that to friution we must now salute this bastard..........

Judge Venters new order consist the facts that Craig Jung past military experience gives him the right to do whatever he wants with this company. Now that path to market is coming that to friution we must now salute this bastard..........

Judge Venters new order consist the facts that Craig Jung past military experience gives him the right to do whatever he wants with this company. Now that path to market is coming that to friution we must now salute this bastard..........

Judge Venters new order consist the facts that Craig Jung past military experience gives him the right to do whatever he wants with this company. Now that path to market is coming that to friution we must now salute this bastard..........

Judge Venters new order consist the facts that Craig Jung past military experience gives him the right to do whatever he wants with this company. Now that path to market is coming that to friution we must now salute this bastard..........

Judge Venters new order consist the facts that Craig Jung past military experience gives him the right to do whatever he wants with this company. Now that path to market is coming that to friution we must now salute this bastard..........

Please Dont comment on anon from pomona he doesnt speak for all of us.......The one and only Craig Jung

news from court unsecured creditors object to plan commitee rejected it court resumes tomorrow didn't even go to a vote they killed it dead on arrivaly

KEITH KEEP OFF THIS WEB SITE OR DENNY WILL KICK YOUR ASS

To long island fly, All my customers got mailing, didnt lose any. In fact we lost no customers at our branch at all. I think your full of SHIT!

Check this out, as we speak management is outside painting the words " baked by Hostess " everywhere they see the Drakes label. I heard they are planning to pull the duck off the side of the bakery in Wayne. RIP. The words " baked by Hostess " is code for " tastes like shit " or "smaller product in a bigger box " Put a fork in the duck, she's done.

pomona, hard work didn't get you promoted to all those positions,your lips did.KISS ASS.

Like a bad addiction, every so often I return to this site to read the same old trailer trash comments from people who have no clue. If so many of you are that unhappy, why don't you leave? I've been with this company for 30+ years and am truly interested in its survival. It's obvious that the Teamsters no longer have Yucaipa as their white knight. If the company's plan is the only plan, do we really believe PTM is that bad? Would you rather the company sell you your route and all the expenses associated with that? If we liquidate, where will you go? Will they pay as well? Will they provide a pension? How about health benefits? Good luck!

the co new yesterday today would be bad news that's y they started there damage control when the judge sent the letters out to our cust ex employees exc they lost a lot of business now this new chapter 7 liqidation letters will lose even double cust

Name: Anonymous Date: 2008-01-29 Location: Location:Pomona, CA Comment: See, the hick from Charlotte does not even know where Pomona is. Does not have a clue that, unlike that puny little back-water town, Pomona is a vibrant part of the 7th largest economy in the world. Now, somewill say if it is so great why did IBC close down the bread operation? Simple - the extreme cost of doing busness in a liberal run state. Unions and workers comp costs are running businesses out of Calif every day. Charlotte - do you still have people who quit when deer season starts if they can't get opening day off work? HEY POMONA, At least he still has a job and can pay his bills, I'll bet your monet has run out and you are about ready to live in the street. You might want to ask him for some of that deer meat so you can feed you kids...

Path-to-market here we come! Less money and more work! This will be great! Opps, have to go now and refill my Prozac perscription.

pomona,ya and you guys did so well with the way you ran it didn't you,right into the fucking ground.i'll take my chance with ANYONE else but your current moron mang.team it looks as though your still fighting to get out of that wet sack you mentioned.good luck with that cause with the way your going, you'll sufficate before you succeed.

Pomona..... You are most likely like many of the management types in this company...........They only got "promoted" because nobody else would take it!

Name: eat my twinkie Date: 2008-01-29 Location: Location:Jacksonville, FL Comment: to anonymous in pomona,you are a puke,shut the hell up and leave people alone u asshole.why cant we all jus get along,:<( /////////////Probably because of language and attitudes like yours and others that assume that everyone who decides to become a manager is lazy, no good, does nothing, should all be fired, etc. These malcontents try to blame management for their inability to perform a pretty simple job properly and productively. Ergo, the inability to get along.

Pomona, you forgot 1 bigger reason Cal was closed down..........Totally ignorant workforce.......Go back through some of the history and see how many work comp complaints originated there.......Damn stupid people are an accident just waiting to happen.LOL

i hate to see people lose their jobs.I run a flowers route now worth 3 times what i paid for it.thanks to IBC head honchos.All the ibc people in my area are crooks who even now steal from the company. I kind of hope to see IBC go under as my money goes up.To all you good IBC workers run fast to the nearest Flowers bakery.Good luck to all of you out there.

Decatur - You know not of which you speak. This know nothing management type went ot work as a vacation relief rep., got a route after a year, built the route to a place that it was split in two (competitors pulled two routes because of the business loss), became a union supervisor, became a union branch manager, became a district manager and the list goes on. Don't ever think that all management has not "been there - done that - got the t-shirt". Proud of everything done in a long career including being part of the team that got Pomona to the #1 profit center in the company just 12 short years ago.

to anonymous in pomona,you are a puke,shut the hell up and leave people alone u asshole.why cant we all jus get along,:<(

to anonymous in pomona,you are a puke,shut the hell up and leave people alone u asshole.why cant we all jus get along,:<(

to mr craig jung sign the clause for ptm we will give u 3 years to make it work if it does not then we go back to old cbm if u r so sure it will work what r u afraid of remember 24000 familys r counting on u it is in your hand sign and survive or die no concession no loan no ibc u decide

See, the hick from Charlotte does not even know where Pomona is. Does not have a clue that, unlike that puny little back-water town, Pomona is a vibrant part of the 7th largest economy in the world. Now, somewill say if it is so great why did IBC close down the bread operation? Simple - the extreme cost of doing busness in a liberal run state. Unions and workers comp costs are running businesses out of Calif every day. Charlotte - do you still have people who quit when deer season starts if they can't get opening day off work?

...just got another text, possible continuance...I'll let you know more when/if

According to our now "in-the-lobby" contact...a legal assistant came out to go make a copy of something, he asked her how it was going, she just kind of shook her head and wouldn't say anything. Read into that want you want to at this point I guess. We're just as anxious and in the dark as you at this point.

Im sorry Decature and So Carolina we all have that drunk uncle who speaks and knows nothing. Should of kept him in the closet but he got out. I knew i should of put a bullet in him. Again I am sorry .

Kansas City, does your friend who was texting have the ability to hear or know how its going inside? Maybe he could go back inside dressed as a woman. Just kidding, let us know if you hear anything.

Florence, that is exactly what I was thinking. If that happens then our odds of pulling out completely go way down. I just can't see any lender throwing more good money after bad. We'll see if the judge has any backbone.

The longer this drags on today, the greater the chance that their will be a continuance. We may not know anything till Thursday or Friday.

Booneville, Im done on friday, approval or not. It was a shitty run i must say, countless nights and holidays working 2 shifts, listening to the racist supervisors and their venomous mistreatment of fellow employees. Most, if not all, of the decent people who were here, either quit themselves or got fired on some made up charge. So piss on this and may ibc rot in its stench of low quality products and even lower class of human beings it now has for management.

The Judge will not put 25,000+ people out of work. He will allow the Company to make it or fail on its own.

so what happening with chap 7????????????

THE END IS NOT NEAR, IT IS HERE !!

what losers....sitting around actually waiting for word from the courthouse...guys.....get a life please working for a living, being able to pay my bills, put food on the table, keep my home unfortunately IS my life so yes, I am waiting to hear ANYTHING

My prediction is that the Judge rules in favor of IBC and will let the Lenders make the hard call.

Our guy just got booted...told he needed to go wait in the lobby with everyone else...I was afraid of that. He's not allowed to text inside the courtroom so he's just been popping in and out and texting outside...evidently the judge got tired of it and gave him the boot

Can you say chapter 7? It's all over people !!

what losers....sitting around actually waiting for word from the courthouse...guys.....get a life please

all of you losers caused the company to get in the position it is in. I hope they lock it up so all of you can be put out of your misery. I retired with 33 years in the bread industry RS and loved every day of it .

BILLINGS: You resigning if Venters ok's the company's plan?

Pomona, does your city have an NFL Franchise or an NBA team? Is it the 2nd largest Banking Center in the United States? We are not out-in-the-sticks.

Thanks, Kansas City. Keep us posted.

Charlotte could swallow Pomona and not even need to burp.

No news yet, Venters remarks/questions and our lawyers. Just like the last big court date, we have someone texting us from the courthouse.

Typical rhetoric from another arrogant, holier than thou, self-agrandizing management type. By the way I wonder how WWII would have turned out if PFC Jones decided to stay home! In your mind I'm sure the Officers in charge would have done just fine! Yes, their are several ignorant posters on here, in fact yopu are one. What the hell is a Pomona?

It's 1:30 CT. How soon will we know something?

Anon. - Billings MT. - teamsters and bakers built the company?? That makes as much sense as asserting that PFC Jones directed and won WWII. You illiterate jerks could not manage your way out of a wet sack, that is why you are driving a truck or dumping a mixer. One of the things that is so funny is that most of the ignorant posters on this site do not even know the names of the managers that they blaspheme unless they have read them on here or in the newspaper realeses. That jerks from out-in-the-sticks places like Billings or Decatuer or Charlotte have the audacity to insinuate that they, or their union, have the capability to run a multi-billion dollar operation is just laughable.

Judge can approve without teamsters but financing may not approve and they hold the cards.

Knoxville. Teamsters have approximately 32 different pension plans. Not are are underfunded. Hopefully you're in one of the stronger ones.

folks, Teamsters and bakers made this company, non-union supers and elite, out of touch, wealthy, private-jet flying, thieving, inside trading sonsabitches broke it. As a union member, I hope to see ibc reap the f'ng fruits, and as for any more advice from Booneville, SPARE us the damn bullshit. Go away you inbred ass. The judge can approve all the shit he wants, but the teamsters will never take it, and those who lied to us will be sent down the same road as us. FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOM!!!!!!

Ok, a Consolidated Frieght contract is different than an IBC contract, no? Dear God - people understand that a pension is based off a company being a company. If IBC tanks, your pensions are not in good shape. A buyout is in the works, pennies to the dollar. So hug that Teamster rep and grab a bill from his wallet - you'll need it.

Boonville, can he approve the plan without the Union(s) on board?

I no longer work for IBC & does noit contribute to my pension. My next door neighbor also receives a teamster's pension & retired from Consolidated Freight which is also out of business. Yet he gets his pension & so will I regardless of what happens to IBC. My only connection to IBC now is my health insurance which I would lose if IBC goes completely under.

I no longer work for IBC & does noit contribute to my pension. My next door neighbor also receives a teamster's pension & retired from Consolidated Freight which is also out of business. Yet he gets his pension & so will I regardless of what happens to IBC. My only connection to IBC now is my health insurance which I wouyld lose if IBC goes completely under.

Knoxville, Congratulations on your retirement. I truly hope you are able to continue but truth is if this fund is turned over to PBGC your benefit WILL change. If IBC is able to emerge successfully fron BK then they will be required by the new laws passed in 2006 to fully fund these pension within 7 years. Sincerely hope for the best for you and other retirees and those nearing retirement.

KNOXVILLE: Better read up on pension plan information. YOUR pension WILL be affected if the PBGC is forced to take over because IBC is no longer in business.

Hearing today at 1:30PM, here in KC....expectation is that Venters will approve IBC's amended plan and permit vote by creditors.

Birmingham:FYI I am already retired & getting my pension. I have a lot more faith in the Teamster's pension fund even if it is only 46% funded. The plans are in place to raise that percentage. IBC's only plan is to rob their employees' pension fund in the way that they always have. Google IBC's history from the mid 80's to now if you don't believe it. Shame on all the management that are trying to scare the employees into thinking they won't get what has already been contributed to. I cannot see how any good hard working employee would want to stay with IBC in the condition they are in now

Columbus: The info provided from PBGC is somewhat confusing to most as it refers to single payer plans. Most all of the union plans are multi-employer plans and are treated much differently be PBGC. Maximum benefit allowed by PBGC is approx $36 mo for ea year of service w/maximum of approx $13,000 per year at FULL retirement age (no early retirements). Been trying to tell many on here that but they somehow don't want to believe it so guess they will have to find out the hard way. Union leadership isn't being honest and forthcoming with this information.

Attention Damon. Here is a job that meets with your skill and education level in case we close.

Sorry - That URL should be as follows: http://www.bizmology.com/2008/01/18/dough-not-rising-at-interstate-bakeries/

Hey Guys - You've got to read this article: http://www.bizmology.com/2008/01/18/dough-not-rising-at-interstate-bakeries/ Laughing out loud this mornin feels real good!!!

Guarantee Limits PBGC will pay you the benefit provided by your pension plan up to the limits set by law. There are several legal limits that PBGC must apply. Maximum Benefit Guarantee: PBGC's maximum benefit guarantee is set each year under provisions of ERISA. Under the single-employer program, the limit is adjusted annually based on changes in the Social Security contribution and benefit base. Generally, the maximum limit for any pension plan is permanently established for that plan based on the plan's termination date. However, when termination occurs during a plan sponsor's bankruptcy and the sponsor entered bankruptcy on or after September 16, 2006, the maximum guarantee is determined as of the date the bankruptcy proceeding began. Phase-in of Guarantee of New Benefits: If your plan was created or amended to increase benefits within five years before its termination date, your benefit may not be fully guaranteed. PBGC guarantees the larger of 20% of the benefit or $20 per month for each full year the benefit was in effect. Participants may receive the full benefit increase if the increase has been in the plan more than five years. Generally, benefit increases occurring within one year of plan termination are not guaranteed. If you own more than 50% of the business, stricter limits apply. If you have a benefit increase as a result of the shutdown of a facility that occurs after July 26, 2005, and less than five years before your plan's termination date, the increase is not fully guaranteed. Different rules may apply if your plan terminated while the plan sponsor was in a bankruptcy proceeding or for certain airline industry plans. Legal Limits on PBGC's guarantees • Generally, PBGC does not guarantee any monthly pension amount that is greater than the monthly benefit your plan would have provided if you had retired at your normal retirement age. • The maximum amount that PBGC guarantees is set each year under provisions of ERISA. For more information, see: Maximum monthly guarantee tables • If your plan was created or amended to increase benefits within five years before it ended, your benefits may not be fully guaranteed http://www.pbgc.gov Are your pensions “fully” guaranteed?

Booneville, what have you heard? You always seem to know what is going on. Please fill us in.

Knoxville...............You are WRONG about your supposedly secure union pension! Many of the IBT and BCTM pensions are severely underfunded and WILL be turned over to PBGC with the result that most will receive only a portion of expected benefits. PLEASE note that these pension are multi-empployer funds and the MAXIMUM benefit insured payout is $36 per month for each year of service with a maximum benefit of 13,000 per year. You really need to educate yourself as this is YOUR money Our IBT leaders continue to mislead the membership regarding this issue. Find out for yourself at the PBGC website or ERISA as to what happens to underfunded multi-employer pension funds such as many of the IBT and BCTM funds. Unfortunately many members think their pension is secure when in fact it is not. Most are going to find out the hard way! Been there, done that!

Unsecured creditors, owed $194 million, would receive 26.1 percent, or $50.6 million, according to a Monday filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

for those who are not in the know, Hearing starts at 1:30 .....

Look what I found of one of the Te Teamsters Websites http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/mobile/stories/2008/01/28/daily17.html

: ) : ) nice so far : ) : )

Decatur:.... Sarcasm!

To Anon in Indy. its that type of mentality that IBC doesnt want. Go ask Hoffa for a job. IBC doesnt want you.

Jamaica...yes, if the company goes under you'll have all the vacation, sick, and personal time you can afford...YOU WON'T HAVE A JOB MORON

Just a question if company goes under are we still entitled to earned vactions,sick and personal time. And would we have to put a claim in and wait years

I just hope that you ignorant fucks who wish to see this company close will be as gleeful and make all of us happy if you turn in your resignations on the 30th if the judge approves IBC's plan.

To the end is here,It's more than just getting their way,,,,It's about being top heavy and breaking the backs of their providers ,,, We go out and work all day only to have spoiled rotten children tell us" you're not working hard enough and their going to fire you!"

Who's the real loser? Someone who breaks their back and works like a dog for a paycheck...Or someone who sits on their fat ass and runs this company into the ground and gets paid 10 times what the hard workers get paid? I bet those fat asses are really worried about where their next check will come from? With this poor economy, Good luck all you fat lazy fucks!

the wife and i went out for a bite to eat last nite,we were sat by a table with young children who were out of control to the point of screaming and stomping their feet,and you know what? they got their way.i told my wife the're's the future ibc mang.because thats exactly how they operate too,if they don't get their way they start stomping their feet for attention and are so annoying that they always get their way.

Yes! now you understand!

Yea, i'm with hoffa, volpe. I would rather screw the union members than negotiate with current management

kansas, i didn't take the word of my union rep on an issue as important as my pension,i called the pension fund and was told the funds were not only secure,but updated to sept.of 2007 which is the last time i looked into it ,quit your Fing crying and get a real life would ya.come up with something new will ya,tired of filling you in on the issue.

Hard working I.B.C. employees Don't have to worry, Their hard work out on their routes will speak for itself. We'll find better jobs. No one I know has it easy, We're killing ourselves only to have some lazy shit head tell us we should work even harder,,,For what? Make those lazy fucks richer? No! if it goes,,,good riddance!

Blah blah blah! fuck the pension!

The Suspense is Killing Me..........................pass the popcorn pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee

The Suspense is Killing Me..........................pass the popcorn pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee

Guys If I were you I would definately take advice about my pension from management of this company. After all, all they did was steal the pension funds from their own. Check out their history.

I'll be very easy to find tomorrow if we go chapter 7, Just listen for a lot of Champagne corks popping.

Extra relish on my chapter 7 hot dog with plenty of liquidation on top!.....And a cold beer!... Life is good!

Buffalo---You must really be naive if you truly think your union leaders are going to tell you your pension is not secured. Fed gov will guaranty only partial so expect to lose 50/60% if it is taken over which is likely.

Union, Buffalo/// I am so thankful I don't have the "brains of a rsr" if you are an example (Learn to use spellcheck). Central States pension is currently fubnded at 46% but if you ask their leaders, they will tell you it is safe. Those laid off in Cal were told they would receive severance by their union leaders also. Didn't happen! If you had real "brains you would check your pension funds form 5500 for yourself to determine how safe it really was and not rely on someone you reached by phone! I am now in IAM pension which shows 97% funding so hopefully will be safe, but I previously worked a union position for a company in bankruptcy and I too was assured my union pension benefits were safe. Found out later the hard way. Cost me about 1/2 of promised benefits. Many in this company are about to find out the same thing, they just aren't aware of it yet. See how your union leaders support you when you are no longer paying dues! Ask S. Cal.

Go to IBC web site for current jobs available. Most list excellent union benefits package. If they thought there will be no company why hire with that job description.

Boonville it should be a slow day for you tomorrow watch and see,theres more to it and you know it.

Nothing will happen in six hours, 12 hours or even a month...it will be same old, same old as management scrambles to stay the same. Why wouldn't they? They steal every Thursday when they get a check! About 80% of them are worthless. I feel sorry for the few that work hard and really want to succeed. Good luck to all. Buffalo, NY a big RIGHT ON with your comments.

Decatur,i have to say,i feel for you big guy,you being without a pension and all,but whose fault is it,ours,not ,just cause you didn't have the brains of a rt man don't blame us.to all teamsters,iv'e called our pension fund when this shit first started to happened and was assured that our pension IS secured for what we already have in it,your last statement is what you'll be getting so don't listen to anyone who tells you different,call them yourself you'll see.besides,it's also backed by the federal gov.

also now this is really going to piss boonville off chapter7 liqidation letters r being mailed to r customers ex employees competers ex the chance we have is as boonville says white knight burkle 6 more hours does he blunt down his money or not

to : "ANON/KC: SHOW me where you are being asked to take a 30K pay cut. " I've taken a hit that exceeds that when you calculate the salary cut, stock decline, and profit decline. Will I survive? Absolutely. I've saved enough over my life that I can afford several hits. That's the risk you take when you run with the big dogs. The risk is there. I've had years with and without IBC that have been wonderfully profitable and miserably less profitable. Everything is relative. A standard of living is a standard of living regardless of your income. If you're accustomed to a certain amount of income any detraction will be felt. I have yet to figure the final tally, but I'm looking at a loss of income nearing $80K for 2007. So believe me when I say I'd like us to pull out of this so I can recover some of my losses.

also now this is really going to piss boonville off chapter7 liqidation letters r being mailed to r customers ex employees competers ex the chance we have is as boonville says white knight burkle 6 more hours does he blunt down his money or not

also now this is really going to piss boonville off chapter7 liqidation letters r being mailed to r customers ex employees competers ex the chance we have is as boonville says white knight burkle 6 more hours does he blunt down his money or not

also now this is really going to piss boonville off chapter7 liqidation letters r being mailed to r customers ex employees competers ex the chance we have is as boonville says white knight burkle 6 more hours does he blunt down his money or not

Let me ask you this Boonville. Why is it the rsr have taken pay cuts already when management has not. They claim to have gotten rid of some positions, when all they did was rename them and give themselves raises.

Knoxville...............You are WRONG about your supposedly secure union pension! Many of the IBT and BCTM pensions are severely underfunded and WILL be turned over to PBGC with the result that most will receive only a portion of expected benefits. PLEASE note that these pension are multi-empployer funds and the MAXIMUM benefit insured payout is $36 per month for each year of service with a maximum benefit of 13,000 per year. You really need to educate yourself as this is YOUR money Our IBT leaders continue to mislead the membership regarding this issue. Find out for yourself at the PBGC website or ERISA as to what happens to underfunded multi-employer pension funds such as many of the IBT and BCTM funds. Unfortunately many members think their pension is secure when in fact it is not. Most are going to find out the hard way! Been there, done that!

very well said Buffalo!!!! i feel your pain about the trucks with no heat, them corprate idiots wouldnt last 2 freaking days!!

concerned employee,you union bashing shitstain,have you ever ran a rt,? i didn't think so,you can bash us all you want but the bottom line is ibc CAN'T run this co. without us,what rock did you just climb out of moron?corp.thugs like ibc just keep taking and taking,and who keeps giving and giving,TEAMSTERS.we haven't had a wage increase in 6yrs or so,can mang. say that?Doubts.thats what our union reps are fighting for,NO MORE CUTS.go ahead and try to hire your NONUNION sales team,we're a unique bunch,try driving one of these 1985 trucks lately?they don't come with power steering or heat you know.try getting up and off your truck 200 times a day EVERY day for 20 plus yrs.try calming one of the store mang.down because YOUR mang.didn't send the promotional product in their ad on sunday.YOUR FUCKING CLUELESS as to what it takes to be in sales dipshit.so until you walk a million miles in our shoes,SHUT YOUR FACE.

Boonville: Why are constantly trying to scare union members into thinking they will be losing their pensions. This is true of only company employees since the inept non union handles their money but the union pensions will still be solvent up to the point that they have been contributed to. If anyone has 25 years they will still get their 25 year pension. Not so with non union & company 401 Ks.

boonville >>>your talking out your ass pure BS,sit back and watch because things are a lot different than you perceive.

You'll be able to make the same amount of money driving a dump truck. There are so many of these jobs out there. Fuck IBC Stick it to them Teamsters

Booneville is right, now we have to put our tail between our legs and go do some major ass kissin, and the result will be a lower gross income, with an adjusted benefit package. If you have twenty years in and are over 40 years old, will you live with that? Will you take that chance that this time around IBC will make it work? Or will they just fuck it up again, and we will be back in court for another round! There is no promise that your pension will be full value either way. Do you work for less and hope your pension will be there? I don't think many of us could survive here in New Jersey, with the taxes we pay, making less money. All of our costs around us are increasing, how can we work for less? This is a real wake-up call for me. Hope for a miracle, like nothing changing, but I think it's too late for that.

just to let everyone know teamsters have been dealing with burkle since sat the problem is he does not want whole co don't believe boonvilles bullshit if he is in managament then he knows burkle has till 11.59 pm tonight to buy co know that co showed it cards he just has to top it hoffa and volvpe r working to get weston involved with it burkle is not done there working round the clock if he puts his bid in tonight by thursday morning all upper managment will be terminated who's the dumbass now boonville

ANON/LA (Dolly): Right. Sad thing is, they don't get it. When companies close their doors, the former employees and union members are no longer of any value to the Unions because they are no longer paying dues. If this company liquidates, many people are going to learn many invaluable lessons the hard way.

Agreed Boonie, IBT holds all the cards and really stupid of them if they refuse allow the company to at least try to continue. Slightly wrong on pension area though as not all of the more than 30 pension plans contributed to by IBC are or will be insolvent upon liquidation. Several have minimal IBC members and funding levels in excess of 90%. Hope it all works out and the IBT comes to their senses hurtful as it is, the alternative will be worse for many IBT members. Ask some of the Cal. former members just what the IBT did for them when the jobs were gone!

ANON/KC: SHOW me where you are being asked to take a 30K pay cut.

Their objections might have been addressed, but they sure as hell have not been addressed to the satisfaction of the various parties, all this means is that lawyers will get more work before the end.

Why are we, the rsr, expected to take a 20 to 30 thousand dollar a year pay cut in order to save this company. Boonville, as far as we are concerned, we have nothing to loose. If we go down, we'll take the lazy, idiots who ran this company into the ground with us. Your statements have got to be the most one sided i've seen.

TO JIM: Tomorrow, of course, will be the telltale day in the life or extinction of IBC. One of two things are going to happen: approval of IBC's plan of reorganization and disclosure statement AS AMENDED, or an ordered liquidation of the company. Judge Venters has one plan...IBC's...in front of him to rule on. That's it. There is no other plan, there is no other life for IBC other than with the current management and its plan. While there were numerous objections filed to the plan, the majority of the issues raised in those objections were addressed in the additional 331 page document filed with the court by IBC Jan. 25. There is no alternative to the company's plan to be considered. The only other alternative is liquidation, and if that happens, it won't much matter whether you are management, Teamster, BCTGM, IAM, UFCW, or what. It simply will not matter because the only thing that will happen at that point is that the vultures who have been circling (competitors) who wish to pick the bones of IBC (physical assets, brand names) will then have their opportunity. And, believe it or not, they will NOT be buying your Union Contracts, or even your jobs. They will be buying machines, buildings, and possibly ingredients left behind. They do not want your Union Contracts in any way, shape, or form. If you wish to work for one of those companies after the liquidation is complete, I'm quite sure that they will be more than happy to hand you an application and allow you to stand in line for an interview. And those pensions? The PBGC will then be forced to accept the pension plans (don't let anyone tell you any different because those plans will NO LONGER be solvent plans). At that point, the value of your pension will be REDUCED 66 to 75 percent of its net worth. I can see one thing, though...Teamsters need to make a decision if the Judge approves IBC's plan. If they continue on their present course and IBC is forced to close its doors, it will then be solely because of the Teamsters. I want to see if Hoffa/Volpe are gonna flinch when the future of 25000 jobs is laid directly on their doorstep, because that is what it is going to come down to. Like it or not, if the Judge approves the company's plan, then all of the pieces of the puzzle are in place, with the exception of one. And if that one piece causes the downfall of this company, then blame for that downfall is rightly where it belongs. What do you think the regard will be for the Teamsters if they are responsible for the closure of an iconic company like Wonder/Hostess? Think of the UAW causing Ford, GM, or Chrysler to close........

You are f'd Teamsters. Great job ass clowns. http://www.kansascity.com/382/story/464174.html

The disclosure on what everybody is going to get is posted on breaking news with the Kansas City Star online newspaper.

Hodgkins...you assume I have no practical "real world" experience. You assume I stepped right out of college into my position. You couldn't be further from the truth. I worked and scraped for the better part of twenty years to get into the position I'm in now. I started out as a mechanic and worked my way through college. All the while supporting a family. So forgive me if I seem a little proud of that and where my labors have gotten me. And to imply that I entered into this just for the education value is an insult. I really did think this company could be salvaged and still think the best asset this company can hang its hat on are the employees. The biggest problem we've seen all along is communication and the buffering process that dilutes the message. However, if it does not work out favorably I will of course take with me any lessons I can glean. One would be neglectful if they don't store experience and lessons learned from good or bad situations. There are good and bad experiences to draw from at all times. I would hope that the manner in which the IBT has mismanaged and misguided their members will be a lesson you all can carry with you into your next jobs.

KC....... You,like many of your degree possessing cohorts hired by this company continue to amaze me with your self-agrandizing attitudes. You don't seem to understand that education does not equal knowledge. You may consider your time spent here just an additional educational experience but unfortunately they don't hand out degrees for failure which is all you have accomplished. You can take your degree to your next employer and try to stuff it down your next group of subordinates and likely will get the same results until you are able to utilize your education and assume some knowledge. I, too, though I don't have the degree, am confident in my abilities and will hopefully find a more appreciative employer.

secured shares to get 26.1 % of what they are owed with new stock issued a little over 3 million shares,,,pension owed 18.8 million will get 36.8 %of that,,,,,unsecured stock will be wiped out.......wow!!!!!what a great plan.....

Jose Pozos - How dare you! Neither my breath nor my panties exude odiferous secretions or noxious odors. Taco breath, shit for brains Mexican.

Do you people really think that someone who is privvy to meetings in Hq. is writing on, or even reading this sight?

KC: I worked for IBC for 30 years before retriring a little over 1 year ago. I worked 56-62 hours per week, & never made more than 36,000 per year. I never took off sick or called in until 1 year before retiring when I had to have hernia surgery. When I came back the useless management that had run my route had lost 40% of my business & within one month my route was cut. There are many like me still with the company but if benfits & pay are cut anymore you will not be able to keep anyone who will work or care. If fact, most will not make it through the training when they see how much work & little pay there is to be made with current management.