Razz is back and asking for your vote... John Mccain Barrack Hussein Obama Razz " the former IBC worker" After listening to both candidates I have decided to run for president. If my name does not appear just vote for Mccain instead.

Where were you three years ago , just before I quit. Good job !!!! Just quit and go out and vote for Obama. The messiah has all the answers. We are also headed for Socialism. I will now go drink my Obama cool aid and sing Coombaya around the camp fire. Obama's got your taxes err back. Just remember when he and Pelosi repeal the Bush tax cut. That will be your first tax increase , but he does not even have the balls to tell the truth. Remember this quote: " Any government powerful enough to give you everything , can also take everthing away"... Also, as president he promises to make sure everyone has a Cadillac Escalade and Tax Credit in hand . Even if you did not pay taxes last year. IT IS WHAT IT IS.....BULLSHIT.... Now get over it and try to do your part ....Do your job, make money for both you and the company! We do have the opportunity to cut the lost wages by selling more product. I know the quality has been poor, but you can only control you're job. Sell DISPLAYS, review the orders, add and cut to your needs, keep stale down. Plus outs have always been a pain in the ass...just part of the job. Go over printouts and see exactly whats Not selling and cut it down. This is STILL a Good JOB and its what YOU make of it. Finally, for all the tough guys out there, be true to yourself and go find another job with this pay and benefits!! No need to stay and be UNHAPPY and Non-Productive. We don"t need YOU! When 95% of you find out you can't find a comparable job then its time to GET TO WORK! You don't have to like it, but IT IS WHAT IT IS !!!

IT IS WHAT IT IS.....BULLSHIT.... Now get over it and try to do your part ....Do your job, make money for both you and the company! We do have the opportunity to cut the lost wages by selling more product. I know the quality has been poor, but you can only control you're job. Sell DISPLAYS, review the orders, add and cut to your needs, keep stale down. Plus outs have always been a pain in the ass...just part of the job. Go over printouts and see exactly whats Not selling and cut it down. This is STILL a Good JOB and its what YOU make of it. Finally, for all the tough guys out there, be true to yourself and go find another job with this pay and benefits!! No need to stay and be UNHAPPY and Non-Productive. We don"t need YOU! When 95% of you find out you can't find a comparable job then its time to GET TO WORK! You don't have to like it, but IT IS WHAT IT IS !!!

well the waste here is still alot and no one wants to take responsbility for it. workers here dont want the cuts and i cant blame them. we ned help here and im asking for help in this plant help help help .........

changetheattitude - Lenexa, You must be Republican trying to convince all they would be just as happy making $140 week less! If your friend is so disillusioned or unhappy making 3 mil yr, he can easily resolve that by simply going back to his $19,000 yr job. To suggest that such a large decrease in wages should have no effect on employee morale is quite simply a pipe dream. It has nothing to do with happiness, but everything to do with providing basic needs for family.

WHAT A HALLOWEEN GETUP BROCK AN INTELLIGENT PART OF MGT !!!!!!!!!!!

Vote Yes if you want the company to stay . Vote no if you want to liquidate.Pick for yourself what is best for you. I am voting yes because I want to work, cuts or no cuts.Its such a darn shame that everyone suffers.We the drivers work our ass off you would think someone would be running the money end of it to keep us a float.Lets bond together as a group and hope for the best.Ibc employees are the best.Change the attitude best said it...Life is what you make it...........

Boonville I seen the UAW local 2828 on the courthouse website making a lot of objections ..Any ideas of what that's all about thanks.

right boonie they will own 53 percent of ibc .....hey char NC you still think your not taking a 140$ hit on your wages starting jan 1st all rsr union or not union will be taking concessions that's a fact and if your in managment your taking a big hit too .....

POMONA: Such blasphemy!! Don't you know that Volpe and his cronies at Ripplewood are calling the shots? Right, FLY? (Sarcasm intended)

This is getting more hilarious with each passing day. The union has really taken care of you guys. First they have negotiated large give backs on your behalf with an outside entity. Then the company, surely with the approval of the outside entity, announces a plan for exiting bankrupcy and taking the company private. With the company private, you will never again have access to the financial details of the operation since there will be no federal filings (other than taxes) or stockholders report. Never again will they have to publish management salaries for you to howl about. Profit sharing? Riiiight!!! Every dime possible will be hidden from view. Just think about it - all the union had to do was let you vote on and approve PTM and none of the rest of this stuff would have ever taken place.

hey brock that raise was to shut you up for the time being before you get the ax. listen here fuck nutz, you of all people are not in the plan. you are a mere pawn in the game. your "i will blow you later" to save your job is not going to last. i have more time and experience than you and my job of selling and delivering the product is far more important than your little police work of going out on the market and finding off code stuff. so with that said, for all of us that actually make the company go round, vote as you would and let the chips fall as they may. the so-called fat cats will be weeded out either way. so to you brock i have two words for you.........far-q

Don't you people get it? "Happy days are here again". Are you freakin' crazy? The upper management and Teamsters Union will take our $140 paycut and be back at the door knocking in three months. 'Gee it's not working...but if you take another $50 paycut...etc' Those in charge are simply draining the company. Let it die. The major brands such as Wonder and Hostess will always survive. Maybe a new company? That would be great...but your 'yes' vote will only cause you/me pain. Vote 'no' and get it over with.

100 dollars it tip money to Boone Salesmen

Help Wanted Banner on CHP Building????????

Change the attitude: I WISH I HAD 100 MORE LIKE YOU!!! When Lenexa closes come see me. I certainly could make room for someone like you.

Kent: Call the Brothers from South Central L.A.

I guess IBC knows what the vote is going to be getting ready to come out of BK with new filing to Vetters

Hodgkins, Is the sarcasim from the pay cut or have you been unhappy about other situations for quite sometime, and I am not refering to work related issues. I am an acquaintance of a man whom after college started a job with a company making 19,000 annually. Now as the CFO of that same company 25 years later makes more than 3 million a year. I know from speaking with this man he is no happier then when he graduated college. He has much more wealth but works much more and has much greater responsibilities. A truely joyful person would be just as diligent working for 19,000 as 3 million.

Good A. M., Emporia lives on!!! Lue Goad was right. Emporia will be here long after we are DUST!!! THE LAZY WILL BE GONE, the clock is ticking.

I have been trying to convince a coworker to retire. He has been here for along time and could have retired a few years ago. He is always talking about how he hates this place and how miserable he is, even though he has a gravy job. So not long ago i decided to help him out. I tried telling him to retire now but he refuses to do so. He is a miserable fellow and makes those around him even more miserable. Anyways some of the people we work with have been "encouraging" him to retire also. I think they want him to retire so they can get his job, which would also help me get a better job. They hide his paper work, lie to him about scheduling and do anything they can to make him miserable. I have only been here a couple years and like working here and do not want to see this company close. The problem is he wont retire. He is costing us Alot by his mistakes.Why wont he just retire?

If Our unions become our Employer, who will they be representing? Us or the company, i mean themselves. Isnt that the point of a union. Somene who will represent us To the company? How can the union BE the company. Well now that i think of it they have been in bed together i cant tell the difference either.....

Cancer furvivor, Your friend is lucky to be alive. I lost a close friend several years ago to cancer. He left a wife, and 3 children. I watched with tears in my eyes as a family mourned for the loss of the father. The entire student body gathered around the childen to grieve and show there support for them. Your friend needs to realize there is more at stake then just himself. He is the exact same person with missing body parts as he is whole. I am not only the sum of my parts. I am the things that dwell in my heart. The words that come forth from my mouth. And the things that I do to impact others. Tell your friend life is more than then vainity and pride. If it were his children with the cancer and they were too young to make the decision for themselves, what would he chose for them?

Our union steward is a "BACKSTABBING" bastard,kiss ass,dumbass......what do I do if I need help?

I heard that that IBC wants to reopent he Nissen Bakery on Washington ave beforethankgiving

Oh yea, this will work. NOT. Interstate Bakeries offers part ownership to unions. With incompitant supervisors and workers who are dumb and dummer. This won't last long.

FLY Jamica, the 110 dollars will get back to us with automatic stocks added to drivers working the union states.Then when the companys crediitors are paid off you can sell stocks. Floerence so cal all get to vote even laid off because of recall in 18 months. Glendale maybe you got severence no 1300 so cal did only the mechanics so don't make it sound like a picnic havin no job dude. Everyone ignore T brock its not management its someone wtih alot of time on their hands trying to upset anyone. Brock get off our IBC website we are a proud team of drivers and we dont need negativity or you bragging about money your not getting we are above you anyways .If you were a leader you would be trying to help us help yourself and help us by keeping your comment to yourself. Cream rises to the top we are all going to do it.Stay positive everyone hang in there.

I have a Close Friend who has a rare form of Bone Cancer. He has been in and out of the hospltial for 4 years or so now. The doctors told him the cancer was in his right hand. Over the last 4 years he has undergone several treatments and chemotherapy. The treatmenst were very panful and even made him Very sick. The good thing is the Chemotherapy worked, and the Doctors say his Cancer is in remission! He might even be released from the hospital soon! There is one small problem the doctors say that even though he looks and feals healthy his cancer is only in remission and might come back at any time! He is very worried about this as the last time it almost killed him, and the Doctors told him next time he probably wont be so lucky. The doctors did give him another option, to have his right arm amputated. He has a wife and kids and says he is worried about them, he wont be able to play catch with his son and is afraid his wife will think less of him if he only has one arm. They said with a 99% certainty that if they removed his right arm he would be cancer free the rest of his life! The only problem is my friend is right handed. He rights, eats heck even jerks off with his right hand (or so he told me lol). He is rather stubborn and is refusing to have it amputated. What should be my advice to my Dear Friend?

I have been trying to get a response all week! Does anyone out there know what pay cuts the BCTGM Thriftstore girls are taking for their 3rd round of cuts? I worked for IBC for over 11 years,after making 5000,00 less last year than I did 8 years ago between the insurance cost,hour cuts and wage cuts,I wised up and found a job working from home making 2 and a half times what I did working for this company,but I still have friends in the store that depend on this job, so I was checking for them. Maybe if this company could produce a decnt product they wouldn't be in this mess! They blame gas,wheat prices and employee wages put them in this mess. I say it's because they bake buns that crumble into a thousand pieces after you take your first bite or Dry bread or Mouldy bread..I switched to Sara Lee years ago and would NEVER switch back to IBC'S products!

Changetheattitude - Lenexa...........I agree, Boonville is the only poster on this site who appears to have some semblance of intelligence (Yourself included) I also agree that the only way to turn this company around is to change the attitude of the employees. Let's see how a $140+ weekly pay cut helps the attitude! Happy days are on the way!

HEY GOT MY RAISE TODAY AGAIN, GOT ANOTHER RAISE AND DIDN'T EVEN ASK FOR IT.

What will the Gozfather in Cincinnati do next?????? Let us all go and ask our Supervisor/ Union Steward what our runs will be next year! Go run and cry to Chris again when they make the runs again maybe then you can get rid of some more union work you backstabbing bastard!!!

THANKS KNOTTSVILLE GOOD TO SEE SOMEBODY ELSE REM.!!!!!!!!

ButternutBob is correct. With CBC managment, Hobbs, Murphy, Ect. Even some of the good old boys that they bring back out of retirement like they are doing in Memphis as you read this. They are still bringing us down

COULD BUTTERNUT BOB BECOME A LITTLE DEBBIE ? STAY TUNED !!!!!!!!!!!

ST LOUIS I"m NOT GOING TO THROW STONES BUT DID YOU REALLY READ OR JUST SKIM THRU WE BOTH KNOW AT THAT POINT WONDER WAS # 1 followed by sara lee then IBC OR FLOWERS , WHATEVER THE CASE CONT. BROUGHT IBC DOWN < YOUR CBC MGT THAT IS !!!! >

Ron and Mike...Your gone after the vote either way.

KANSAS CITY — U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Jerry Venters today approved a disclosure statement put forth by Interstate Bakeries Corp. that will allow the company to seek creditor approval of its reorganization plan and set the stage for the wholesale baker to emerge from bankruptcy protection. The reorganization plan will be mailed to creditors by Nov. 6 and must be voted on by Dec. 1. Mr. Venters has scheduled a confirmation hearing for Dec. 5, and if the plan is approved, attorneys for I.B.C. said the company would emerge from bankruptcy by Dec. 15. I.B.C., which filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in September 2004, is expected to receive a $130 investment from Ripplewood Holdings and a financing package of $469 from a group of lenders including Silver Point Capital LP. The company also plans to cancel all existing shares and take the company private.

Volpe, I hope some of your teamster brothers find out where you live and put your where Hoffa is, good luck buddy, your gonna end up in a cement grave also.

Orlando is voting on contract Nov.8th.

If there are any bakers on this site do you get to vote

The transport driver jobs will be outsourced.

ButternutBob!!!!!! Your full of shit ! In St; louis Wonder was Allways #1 not butternut that was allways the lesser brand St. Louis has ALLWAYS been a Wonder Bread Town and Allways will Be!!!

Ron in albany glad to hear your voting no same in Utica ny.

Ron in albany glad to hear your voting no same in Utica ny.

good for you change you are a part of america that has made us tough. to bad the upper managment cant take a page from your book.

It wouldn't matter if Kansas had umemployment insurance or not. I have never had to use it in my 30 years of work. I always left companies in the past on my terms. Hard work, dedication, and a willingness to do as I was asked led to success wherever I worked. You cannot be an authority until you learn to submit to authority. I have never had to do without. I learned a great lesson from my grandfather who in the eighth grade had to drop out of school and get a job to support his mother and two brothers when his father died. He opened his own company later in life and had a dozen employees who relied on him to do his job so they could do theirs. By doing this all involved were successful. Each doing his part to the BEST of his ability no matter what. I try to live by this today even if the circumstances aren't in my favor I never quit but look for opportunity in everything to improve myself and my situation.

what about transport lay offs anyone hear anything

Butternutt.I'm totally at a loss with the central states pension plan,however i do feel sorry for you.Really.1%of what amont is being contributed?Is it a teamster fund or an ibc fund?like ours here ,ibc puts $4,65 hr into our fund.teamsters pension.ibc has nothing to do with it except contibute to it.my last report i was at $3,400 month.that was last yr.it should be higher now.your $730 is ,well i feel sorry for ya man,23yrs and only getting that.not bashing you really feel for ya.

Lenexa go get your plant ready to sell Emporia stays you guys are out.....Does KS have unemployment ins?????????

Open your eyes,Your correct on that pension thing but it never goes over the 10% anyways.that should be ok.most of the time,when our pension went up ti was only pennies on the dollar.(maybe 25 cents through a 3-5yr contract)that 10% should be ok.

WIN LOSE OR DRAW WHO GETS TO VOTE ON CONTRACT

Hey anonymous from Glendale, I know how difficult things are out there, but you need to rise above the thinking that it is time for the system to take care of me. I also have paid into the system for a long time but have come to realize that I need to be part of the solution not part of the problem. I teach my children to be leaders and independant thinkers not someone who will take the easy way out but someone who will be a trailblazer. I can speak from experience when i write these things because i took the easy way out for a long time not that i was lazy i have always worked hard but following the crowd is the easy way. Be a success Anonymous of Glendale not an imitation You have all you need inside .Your life is what YOU make it.

don't you guys get it your vote means nothing its already a done deal the judge sent ballots to creditors also just so everyone understands ALL rsrs will be taking a 110 $ a week pay cut union or not union FACT

WHO GETS TO VOTE ON THIS CONTRACT

Do you live in South Central Los Angeles?

I HOPE YOU PEOPLE READ THE PENSION PART IN THE PAMPHLET THAT STATES : ANY CONTRIBUTION INCREASES IN EXCESS OF 10% IN ANY YEAR IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE EMPLOYEES AND PAID BY REDUCTIONS IN WAGES,COMMISSIONS, VACATION OR OTHER FRINGE BENEFITS. how do you like our teamsters now. this opens the door for more potental cuts in pay. its page d1 section c under pension adjustments. what a mess this is!

Does bakers and teamsters both get to vote

This country is so good. After being out of work due to closing Southern California. Collecting severance pay, then unemployment for 26 weeks and now getting extention for another 13 weeks and after Obama gets elected probably another 13 weeks. Nothing like getting paid from the same system I've been paying into for the last 28 years.

plenty of jobs in the albany ny area who you kidding .vote NO

Good A.M., THE LAST POST WAS NOT FROM T E A M B R O C K !!!

boonville roll off driver 17.50 forklift dock worker 19.00 insurance around 40 a week. thats 2 for me. i do realize that some people are one trick ponies and afraid of change. but you must admit there are re training oportunities out there if you have the grapes for change.

David vote must be in by Nov. 12

Dear Change the Attitude: You are right! Everyone is thinking of the 'end result' as opposed to their job--including management. When I was growing up, I had construction jobs and looked UP to management. They were the ones that taught us and passed on their knowledge and skills. I wouldn'd want any of the knowledge or skills of the supervisors I've had. They're awful. When the company was cutting routes last year, they actually told two drivers they'd be laid off if they didn't take the supervisors job that was open: no education, no learning how to manage people; it was terrible. And therein lies the problem. In any event, you're right but it's too late to change anything. I was just posting because I've been out with an injury and wondered what the 'next' important date was. I sent in my 'NO' ballot. Is there a deadline date or any sort? Thanks for the help. The rest of you out-of-work comedians don't bother to post.

In my opinion Anon from Boonville is the only person posting on this site with any form of intelligence. You all rattle on and on about how bad it is working for the company but you chose not to do anything about the situation that you v'e created. I watch the transport drivers daily have accidents by running into other IBC trailers, pulling away from the loading docks without baring in the product only to dump half a load onto the lot to be thrown away. RSR's ordering the wrong amounts which in turn increases the unlocated product. Production workers who have such a lazy attitude about their jobs that they don't even put forth an effort and management with an attitude of doing only the minimum amout required . If everybody took ownership and pride in what they did as a service to the customer instead of thinking of self this company wouldn't be in the trouble that has plagued us.

RUDY RODRIGUEZ ; The wetback in you finally came out, that wasn't so hard...was it? I bet you feel much better now that you're finally out of the closet. And to think you wasted all those years pretending to be white. Now that you have embraced your wetbackness and your Mexican heritage, you need to go out and try to bond with your people. You have neglected them long enough. Remember, there's no shame in being Mexican; be proud of who you are. I just hope your people can forgive you. I'm pulling for you amigo.

Damn it, Go to bed already!

I am in managment and I got a raise today

DAMN FLY BOONVILLE JUST KICKED YOUR ASS!!!!! AND I LOOKED AND BOONVILLE WAS RIGHT, HE WARNED EVERYONE ABOUT OUR UNION AND WE WOULDN'T LISTEN!!! AND HE IS RIGHT ABOUT YOUR POSTS, YOU NEVER WAS RIGHT ABOUT ANYTHING. I AM A TEAMSTER, BUT NOT FOR LONG, NOT AFTER THIS ANYWAY. FLY MAYBE YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE TO QUIT POSTING, YOUR NEVER RIGHT

Well, just got back from our meeting and as I have mentioned I am not in the union and first thing they said is I did not need to come and my say has no input so don't open my mouth. That's not word for word just what I got from it. Anyway they are taking $110 a week from base leaving me $93 everything else to stay the same. If I had a vote I would vote NO because that would put me and my route at making around $29000 a year this job is just not worth that. I work 10+ hours a day for this shit to happen? They justify it as prices are going up and if we sell more we can make that back. Management is to take a 8% cut and bakeries have no cut. While I am taking a 20% cut.

I think Boonville's anger being shown towards Fly is misplaced feelings of sexual tension.....he wants you Fly!

DAMN- Sounds like Boonville put his pad on upside down. Take a Midol Boonie!

My property was purchased several years ago before the artificial inflation of the real estate prices. All my properties create a generous positive cash flow. My net worth did take a hit on paper though.

FLY: Me testy about Volpe? Hardly. Seems you're the one thats a little testy...and yes, a "little testy" is in reference to your "inadequacies". Go back to when I first posted on here and tried to tell you that your own union...the person you paid to represent you...Volpe...was going to sell your ass down the river. Go ahead...go back and find it....you see, I had the previous knowledge and experience to tell you exactly what your union would do to you. but you didn't want to listen...do I intentionally horde it over anyone? Only you...because you truly are a schmuck. From that first day on, I was able to disprove EVERYTHING you ever said on this site....and that fact just eats at your insides because you've discovered that there is someone in this world who has a set big enough to call you out and prove that you are nothing more than a mindless turd who has to have someone tell you what to think and what to say...otherwise, you couldn't exist. Remeber all your posts about Jung this and Jung that, and Yucaipa this and Yucapia that? And Volpe this and Volpe that? At the end of the day, what happened? Volpe shit the bed, negotiated you a piece of shit contract, Yucaipa disappeared faster than Volpe lied, and Jung STILL sits at the helm of IBC. But then, the problem isn't you....right Fly Shit?

ST LOUIS CONT. was pulling RASTON PURNA DOWN AND LIKE IDIOTS WE BOUGHT YOU WE SHOULD HAVE TURNED AND RAN YOUR CRAP MGT GOT IN SOMEHOW AND THE FALL BEGANI ONLY WISH IT WAS THE #4 BREAD COMPANY AGIAN WITHOUT HOSTESS- WONDER THAT MY FRIEND IS WHAT HAPPENED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm LIKE SAC IN CAL I have some opp. < no rental property though>and I will hold on as long as possible I have 5 WKS vac.and a VERY SWEET ROUTE WALMART THAT RUNS 6500-8500 KROGER 1500-2000 a D.Q . THAT FEEDS DADDY & LITTLE THAT LOVE BUTTERNUTBOB A BEUITFUL DRIVE EACH DAY EXCEPT SNOW DAYS !!

No Booneville some us worked for other companys Like CONTINENTAL tHEN iNTERSTATE BOUGHT US THE #10 BAKERY bOUGHT THE #1 bAKERY AND TURNED US IN TO SHIT. iT WAS A GOOD COMPANY WHEN I STARTED . But Interstate turned it in to Shit. But it was too late i was already vested..

boonville speaking of testy seems you must of tasted volpe"s shit in your cornflakes when you worked here I'm sure he put you in your place and that's why you ran off like a sissy crying to another company I want you to stay on this site it shows the smug attitude upper managment has towards the workers keep on a posting scmuck face

HODGKINS: A little testy, aren't we? So who owns this web site that only an employee of IBC can post here? IBC? This is a "free" site. Worry about yourself rather than whether I'm posting here or not.

Sacramento real estate is in the toilet. How much negative cash flow do you have on those five rentals.

jon in wilmington howed your meeting go do tell

Besides even with the concessions in place I will still make close to 60,000 a year combined with my wife's six-figure income and the 5 rental properties that we own it really doesn't matter just a whole lot for me.

Oh come on Boonville, you already know the answer to that just like everyone on this site. This job has traditionally had one of the lowest turnover rates in any industry, Most are staying not because they are lacking the qualifications for other employment, they are staying because of the time they have invested. Can I personally find a job with benefits and pay that match IBC? You bet I can. But I would give up at least 3 weeks vacation time and the opportunity to retire in 4 years before the age of 50. I will still have an opportunity to pull a double retirement. I am not unlike many in IBC's workforce. I dare say that the average RSR has some where close to 17 years of service within the company or industry. Besides as an individual why jump off the ship because someone says it is going to sink? I'll be smart and wait untill the lifeboats are dropped rather than tread water unneccessarily. I said last year when all this started it could be well over a year before this is settled and it honestly could drag on past February. The company has a contingency plan in place as do I. I only hope that the others in this company are just as smart.

OK, here's your new contract and your food stamps

Booneville!!!!! I believe it says "EMPLOYEES POST YOUR COMMENTS" Last i heard you left IBC for bigger and BETTER!!SO QUIT POSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! vote NO GO AWAY EMPLOYEES ONLY

NO WAY: Face it...most of the people still with IBC are there because they either lacked the foresight to get out or have tried but were unsuccessful. I have a challenge for you...go out in Biddeford and the surrounding area. Look for every job that your experience working for IBC has qualified you for. Then post on this site which of those jobs will pay you even 75% of your current wage at IBC or benefits at the same level/cost that you have now. You will thern understand why most IBC employees aren't leaving the Company at the present time and are rightfully concerned about their futures and what choices they REALLY have in how to vote.

yup yes guys are afraid of standing up for themselves. just throw your arms in the air and say i guess where gonna take it up the ass again. and thats what they want you to do except it. well not me im not afraid i came here looking ill leave looking. remember there are things everyone can do.we all no people who have left the company and you probably see them from time to time and they say. i cant believe you still work there.am i right

Hey FLY...what don't YOU understand about the FACT that YOUR asshole UNION negotiated with an OUTSIDER...NOT the company...and SCREWED YOU OVER in the process? What don't you UNDERSTAND about a 130Mil INVESTMENT not gaining OWNERSHIP of IBC? What don't you UNDERSTAND about RIPPLEWOOD already COMMITTING that Jung will REMAIN in charge of IBC POST-bankruptcy? Time and time again you have proven to everyone who has ever read anything on this board that you are nothing more than a fucking tool with nary an ounce of brains. Haven't you gottn tired of making an ass of yourself? Or is it that by posting meaningless garbage and trying to get everyone pissed at you (which you have succeeded in doing, I'll grant you that) is the only meaningful thing in your life and makes up for your other "inadequacies"?

Mary Jane: I was talking to a man when I said, "Stand up like a man and vote NO." Get off this web site and watch the Phillies win the Series. It's morons like you that made IBC a hellhole.

Hey Fly we are NOT having to give one PENNY back, since we are paid on a lower scale then the rest of the company, we DONT have to give ANYTHING UP!!!! WHO is the DUMMY NOW???????? OH your so called source is trying to get his job back with us so bad he is willing to help Jung anyway possible did he tell you that??????????

HEY FLY STILL NO BALLOT MAYBE THEY FORGOT ????????

Hey Wayne NJ I have central states on phone and I am 17B CLASSIFATION ????????AFTER 2006 the % went down from 2% to 1% contuributions from the fund

WAYNE NJ IVE ROUTEMAN FOR 23.60 YRS AND CHECKED ON THIS TODAY MAN I AM ONE FIRED UP DUDE WHAT HAPPEN ? I AM TEAMSTER ALWAYS HAVE ????????????????

how did you guys meeting go down south today how much of a bite does ripplewood want out of your ass oh wait boonville said ripplewood is not the new owners so I ask how much or how far are they sticking it in you didn't you guys vote already remember you jumped right in with jung when he asked for concession now they come at you again dummys

CARLOS Y BOB, PELAME LA VERGA, HIJOS DE PUTA.

Hey Brock, bend over and touch your toes and i'll fuck you like the bitch that you are. Yeah Baby!!!

How is it that a V.P. with our company can sell Titan football tickets that the company purchased and paid for sell them on E-Bay , pocket the money and be allowed to do so unquestioned. It's crap like this that make you wonder who's mindiing the candy store!! Someone needs to check into this now!!! No wonder we are in bankrupcy!

Butternut Bob.Are you trying to tell us your only at $730.00 a month? after how many yrs?You must not be a Teamster.Maybe in mang?I thought you were a rt man.I'm at $3,500 a month with 20yrs.Whats your contribution rate?Sounds like your getting screwed.Call your pension fund to make sure.It doesn't sound right.

I dont have time to clean my truck as I am working 58-62 hrs. a week. It looks like my DMs office.

LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE ALOT OF MGT < OUT ON THE MARKET > BOYS , PLAYING ON PAGE , I'M WAITING FOR DAUGHTER TO GET OUT OF SCHOOL

THEY told us at our meeting as soon as its done deal < JUST A QUOTE > PLENTY of MGT WOULD BE GONE JUST LIKE AT SARA LEE

Fly...you people on this sight are the only no's...how many out of 9,000 do you think that is? About 20????

team brock are you and fly brothers??? seems both of you cant figure out what your doing, both are making matters worse instead of better, for the teamsters.

SSSHHHH.....Don't say it so loud! Be vewy, vewy quiet...we don't want everyone to know that Tom Wilson was screwing Boom Boom Lopez and Dick Wilson was screwing Mary Booker. It's a secret - so mum's the word.

YOUR RIGHT BROCK I GIVE UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!

THE Route I was on before I took this one 1 1 /2 ago use to run 9500 AVG 1100 ON HOLIDAY WKS NOW TIS FELLOW RUNS < LAST WK 4700 AVG ABOUT 6000 NOW YOU WOULD THINK MGT WOULD HELPING THIS GUY OUT CHECKING OUT THE PROBLEM NO NOT HAPPEN THEY PLAN ON CUTTING ROUTE IT HAS 3 KROGERS ,MEJIER ,3 WALMARTS ,& 3 mid GORC, PLUS 15 SMALL ACCOUNTS GO FIGURE !!!

ButternutBob: SIR, it is impossible to defeat an IGNORANT MAN in argument!!!

open your eyes is right on this one if it was about saving the company the cuts would be across the board top to bottom , matter of fact they would have cut managment first as there would have been no repercussions its all about the fatcats getting fatter and union busting vote no

hey mc your right on but thats what democrats do they play on fears and twist things in there favor.all they do is plant little seeds and watch them grow

HEY BROCK I JUST FIGURED IT OUT YOUR A MOMMAS BOY RIGHT !! I KNOW THE TRUTH NODOUGHT HURTS BUT YOU HAVE FOUND YOUR SELF A PART OF ONE OF THE COUNTRYS GREATEST MGTS TEAMS NOT ONLY DO YOU DESTROY ONE COMPANY ,INTERSTATE BAKING CO. I,E < BUTTERNUT ,MERTIA ,DOLLY MADISON , WEBER ,SWEETHEART,ECT. BUT ALSO CONT,BAKING HOTESS,WONDER THIS MY FRIEND YOU MOMMY WILL BE PROUD OF & BY THE WAY WE HAVE A MAID THAT CLEANS OUR TRUCKS !!!!!!!!!!!

Who Cares: I don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce!!!

teambrock! stfu. your annoying. i have no clue as to what you do for a paycheck. but it sure cant be a very big paycheck.

ATTENTION.....THE COMPANY WILL NOT CLOSE IF WE VOTE NO....I am tired of these people saying they have to vote yes or the company is closing..IT IS A SCARE TACTIC.... Obviously it is working.....AGAIN...THE COMPANY IS NOT CLOSING IF WE VOTE NO....

wonderdog! in your own language BITE ME! dont blame whats going on in america as a reason to vote yes. you know this whole bull crap on concessions is wrong. if concessions were coming it should have been done equally. for all the same. union and non union. not punishing rsrs. management too. hey dog we gave 2 years ago! did you forget that. IBC is not going to close down as the teamsters threat they will. maybe our biggest problem is not IBC. ITS THE UNION. We will fall so far behind we cant look forward. convince me besides being afraid of your job. As to why we should agree to a $7000 cut now. have self respect! THIS WHOLE CRAP IS WRONG! STAND UP AND FIGHT FOR OURSELVES. THE TEAMSTERS DONT GIVE A CRAP. WE KNOW THAT NOW! AGAIN THE CONCESSIONS SHOULD HAVE BEEN EQUAL NOT JUST ABOUT ALL FROM US. not telling you how to vote! but i will vote NO open your eyes

BUTTERNUTBOB: Good A.M. You did post something truthful, I was on the market all morning. I did not drink any coffee though! How about you? I bet if I could look inside your truck , I would find coffee stains all over the dash. When is the last time you cleaned out your truck???

To management: Even if you took a 5% paycut five years age, we took a paycut two years ago. This is time for a second round of paycuts, not including any raises that we should have had. Fair is fair, if we get cut so should management.

DO YOU MEAN DICK WILLSON WAS SCREWING MARY B.?

I have 7 yrs to go !!!

IF I retired today I would get 730 MON If I wait for 30 and out < which we won't see 2100 mon WAS SUSPOSE TO BE 30 & OUT FOR 2500 THATS $4oo SKIMED OFF TOP ?

LONG TIMER YOUR BEATING A DEAD HORSE I WOULD TAKE A 5% CUT IF I COULD COME AT 830 DRINK COFFEE AND MAKE IT LOOK LIKE I DO SOMETHING ASK TEAM BROCK HE'S SITTING THERE RIGHT NOW READING THE POSTS AND SAYING HE'S ON THE MARKET AND BY THE WAY I HAVE 5 JOBS LINED UP THATS JUST HOW I ROLL !!!!!!!!!

Now we know why Dirty has been to busy to post lately. http://www.aarpvote08.org/index.php?d=RGlydHkgU2FuY2hleg==

long timer- kansas city , read it again !

for those of you voting yes ( i think there all managment). there are plenty of things we indians can do. there is money and programs available for re training. guys and gals no matter how old can be trained to be medical assitance dental. welders. plumbers. heating and cooling class a drivers the list is endless . dont be afraid to better yourself this company has its own interest in mind not yours. we can do better. will it be tough for awhile maybe. but we indians will survive the country needs us. there are already to many chiefs. good luck

dont be stupid, vote yes if you want to keep an income in this currently fucked up nation

To Anon in Denver: If you have a problem with your proposed contract, take it up with your local union officials. They negotiated this agreement with Ripplewood, not IBC. As far as management taking a pay cut, All management took a 5% pay cut almost 5 years ago. While your route was running more and more dollars. Money that could have went to wages, may have also went to health and welfare or to pension. When an agreement is negoitated, the company gives a dollar amount increase they can afford to give for each employee weekly. Just because your local union didnt passs the whole increase on to you as wages, isnt IBC's fault. If you think the only thing that increases is the cost of your wages in keeping you as an employee, youre sadly mistaken. Plese know what you are talking about if yoiure going to blame IBC for your woes in life.

Vote Yes or No do you think it really means anything? The Teamsters have made the decision and you the rank and file will get what they want you to get and thats it !! your vote means nothing!!!!! spend your time working on your resume not on here crying you idoits IBC is done just move on already ................Sheesh

VOTE YES ARE YOU STUPID. You guy's are bitching about how much you pay for medical, wait till you have no job and paying $1500.00 a month for medical. The only job you will find is $8.50 a hour. That's $1600.00 per month gross. How are you going to afford your mortgage payment you can't.. If you could have found a better job you would have by now. VOTE YES VOTE YES YOU MORONS.

COULD GO TO WORK FOR AUNT MILLIE WOULD THAT MAKE ME UNCLE BOB ?

Hey, think about this teamster wants us to back Obama,that tell us how smart they realy are ,the way he want to spread the wealth there wont be no jobs? no need for union

Why should i stand up like a man? I am a woman. Also you are doing to lose the World serries.

To the DIPSTICK in COLUMBUS, OH: Don Mann doesn't wanna hear you talking against the concessions he's in favor of like that. Is that the way you repay his silly ass for all the stupid shit he tried to fight about with IBC? Seems to me that you should be a little more grateful to him for the way he tried to fight Eilers. Wasting everyone's time and not worrying about what really mattered because he couldn't figure out what that was because his steward was nothing but a liar.

No, they won't shut anything down before Thanksgiving. That's definitely a scare tactic...real nice coming from the people you PAY to represent you, huh? Look for IBC to take the concessions to the court and have the court enforce it...it'll be your christmas present. There will be no further negotiations, though....Teamsters International knows it, Ripplewood knows it, SilverPoint knows it, and Monarch knows it. Teamsters will not be able to oppose the Court enforcement of the contract (for proof of this, see Phila. BCT) to convince the Judge to not enforce it. Face it guys, whether you like it or not, those concessions are what you are going to end up with.

vote no ! have any management people taken a pay cut ? remember when IBC said it had cut 225 middle management people ? and yet we still have the same number or more ! here in Denver they cut Brian Worgo and a couple of months later we got Jim Rojo.? what kind of cut is this ? and on top of that we now have 4 account mgrs. when we only had 2 before. and remember that the BCT got a raise! yes they had to fork over an extra $10.00 for med. but they got a raise ! when is the last time you saw a raise ? why would IBC have to seek comparable concessions from others when they will get all they need from us RSRs? the union thinks that Ripplewood is their friend , I got news for them - there isn't a company on earth that likes labor unions .the teamsters thought that ripplewood help them get rid of Jung. but Ripplewood made it clear in their commitment letter that Jung would stay .and on top of that remember that the teamsters also will allow path to market in august 2010. so now we take a 140.00 per wk cut and in less than 2 years we take another 50 % cut . if you vote yes on this , you are a mealy mouth coward ! to worried about the here and now , instead of the future. remember the people that first brought in the union ! they risked more than you!!!

come on guys face it we all know the managment of ibc are the dumbest people in the industry how are we goner feel losing 600$ a month concessions while they get to blow the 600$ million in loans for stupid shit like banana twinkies and bakerys inn displays vote no don't give them that money let's all go down the drain together not just us rsrs why should we suffer while others flurish

can't wait to see how volpe is going to pull this vote off I'm sure you all agree the no's have it on this site there 10 no"s to every scared yes can't wait till the seventh when volpe announces the vote passed easy watch how fast ibc emerges and starts draining our checks fuck you vote no chop it up game over

Im voting NO I dont care what these assholes in cali or colorado say... FUCK THEM... They are management assholes trying to stir up shit... I'm not working longer hours for less pay without a chance to recoup it

hey asshole get a real name and quit using mine

Remember the company offer that the union wouldn't even let you vote on? You know, the one that changed the distribution system over a period of time that the union said would never work and that they would get a better offer? The one that was made whem So. Calif still had bread sales? The one that did not involve any hedge funds? Remember that? Learn from it. Every time the union tells you that they will force the company into a better deal, the members get hosed.. Think about it. Does it make sense that the company would want to implement a distribution system nation wide if it did not work in test markets? Does it make sense that the company would want to purposely make employees furious? Does it make sense that union leadership would be so stupid and so stubborn that they would not even negotiate with the company? Is there even any assurance that if this current proposal, not even negotiated with the company, is voted "yes" that the company will accept it? Your union has screwed up this entire process and in doing so has already cost 1300 members their jobs. God only knows how many others will also lose a job before the union is through.

Stand up like a man and vote NO.

RIGHT ON NEW SHERIFF......THERE ARE NO JOBS I CAN TELL YOU THAT...OH THERE ARE low paying jobs...sure. They are liquidating the company drivers if you don't believe call your union ....no more chances. VOTE YES The 30 trucks in glendale are not new they are a shell of a truck the ones in oxnard are for ncal so don't get your hopes up.Laid off not getting ballots call your union duplicates will be sent out the 29th

i know we all can sit here and bitch about this job but if there were so many better job out there we would have already found them . i will do they same thing but there a couple of thing i like to do and thats take care of my family and go out and do things. but it don,t matter cause if it goes threw everybody out their bitching would still be doing the same thing no matter were you worked so maybe it will work out for the best

nice job open your eyes. most people are afraid but if they actually think for one minute. 1) what has the union ever done for us. 2) ibc hires us and then tries to get rid of us. 3) all this company does is cut cut cut instead of going back to what works getting all the mom and pop stores schoo;s institutions 4)sell product people want table talk pie pickum ups eclairs maple cakes. remember all the good stuff we used to sell in the north but now cant even produce a loaf of bread. its a joke ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. maybe instead of paying lawyers to go to court everyday. these douche bags should get back to basics.

I keep reading cut this amount paying more for insurance. Is it wrong of me to ask what has changed in the pay where your located? What was base and % and what is it now? How much were you paying for insurance and what is it now. Is it different at different locations?

anon denver! you people amaze me. I need a job like anyone else but i am not going to stand by and make the money i made 15 years ago. hey buddy we are talking over $7000 a year cut in pay. do you have bills? enough is enough? soon they will want more . its time to amke a stand. if the union doesnt give a chit then lets decertiy them after this stuff is done. there is something wrong when your union tells you this is a good plan. they can kiss my ass. anyone of you who say if you dont like it move on. can kiss my ass too. i have been in this for over 25 years and this is the last straw. our waterloo. battle of the bighorn. time to stop pushing we in sales around. we make them money . now they want more of our money to show their expenses are less. what a croc and some are saying ok lets keep our job give them $7ooo out of your pay. dont forget jung wanted to give many of officers bonuses. have you forgotten that already.? yeah it is tough. there is no easy vote. but our last 2 contracts have sucked big time. and i say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. is there anyone else but me who gets tired of receiving that stupid teamster phamphlet with all the goody goody news but never nothing about bad contracts like IBC and what the teamsters havnt done for us we are over 9000 strong. we should have a voice lets be heard stop this screwing around with our paychecks. VOTE NO.

new sherriff your a fool. or managment its over forget it we will move on when forced. everybody is afraid of finding new work but there is life after ibc how many people you no have left and are actually still living. all of them i'll bet enough is enough.

If this vote dont go thru Judge Vetters will implement it anyways. Those of you that aint happy should go find another job.

To all of you on here...you've got to be the stupiest people I know. If you vote no and lose your jobs then what? Go on welfare? Pan-handle? Who will provide for your family? You sponse? Your parents? Vote yes, pass the vote and leave on your own terms. YOU WILL NOT FIND ANOTHER GOOD PAYING JOB, DUMBASS!!!!!!!!!!!

DENVER I still plan on getting a paycheck.. It's called unemployment if this company goes belly up... And it will BE AFTER Christmas before they even think of liquidation..Think your prob a slug head manager trying to get a pity vote.. OH WELL

DENVER I still plan on getting a paycheck.. It's called unemployment if this company goes belly up... And it will BE AFTER Christmas before they even think of liquidation..Think your prob a slug head manager trying to get a pity vote.. OH WELL

they wont liquidate before thanksgiving. thats a scare tatic by the union the stand to loose 500.000 a month in dues money. there already over budget themselves huge salaries and giving money to the democrats plus volpe is head of the bakery laundry confrence. no bakery probably no job so you figure it out its not tough. oh ya i voted no enough is enough no more give backs for anybody.

RUDY RODRIGUEZ is just another run of the mill coconut. He's ashamed and embarrassed of his Mexican heritage and of his own people. I’ve had Mexican-American employees tell me that this coconut will go out of his way to stab his own people on the back simply to prove white managers how impartial he is. RUDY RODRIGUEZ, you are not white; you are Mexican. The sooner you admit to yourself that you crossed the border like so many of your compatriots, the sooner you will begin to heal.

Hmmm, winter's coming, family to take care of... Do I want a smaller paycheck or NO paycheck. Yep, tough call.

DENVER,CO fuck that I hope the NO vote goes thru. While it's true the economy is in turmoil and unemployment is risen I am not working for a company that wants to take a major portion of my check each week so JUNGE can get a bonus.. He wanted to give bonuses a little while ago to everyone in the upper crust while we was fighting for our lives.. All he cares about is the money in HIS account not mine or the companies..If a NO vote does go thru they will talk.. Dont listen to there scare tactics.. Let's call there bluff

Please vote YES. With the economy in such bad shape, businesses closing, unemployment rising, foreclosures at record highs it's no time to risk your job. If you want a different job then you should go find one (good luck!). Please don't take everyone down with you. If you are counting on collecting unemployment you may be in for a rude surprise. Teamsters are behind accepting this check their website before you vote....

CINDY!!! MY SIMPLE MIND voted NO

Just put my ballot in mailbox and I Marked NO!

TOENAIL FUNGUS, I WORK IN A BAKERY. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW?

They arent going to shut there doors before easter that's for sure... They have sales promotions until then and contracts for those sales as well... Last time they said they would SHUT the doors was the same thing... Sales months in advance... Vote NO that's why we got them this early if its a no they can go back and renegotiate

Are there any bakery workers on this site? we need some "inside information"

Old Naked Fat Guy. You are full of shit. Boeing workers are on strike.

Wish I knew the truth about what was really going to happen. Boon, you think if we vote No they will really shut us down before Thanksgiving? or is this just a scare tactic? If we all vote No will the Teamsters go back and redo contract? Somebody be honest

Jon: Good A.M., remember it's the little stops that make a route. Keep your head up!!! I wish we had 100 more like you.

well im voting no thats for sure. enough is enough. im looking for a new job no nights and 2 days of in a row.

Vote yes or u will just vote over and over until you vote yes the union leadership has sold you out you dumbfucks

John in Rocky mount. Jon Wilmington depot should be under Retail, Wholesal and Department Store Union. that is the union that we had that covered Wilimington, and down the coast in to south carolina. Yall take care and hold on, maby Merita can come back strong in sales

The hell with IBC, I work for Boeing now. What should I spend this years bonus on?

CARLOS OF SAN DIEGO: FUCK YOU YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER LOSSER IN THIS WORLD . GO BACK PICK YOUR STRAWBERRIES.

Hoye RUDY RODRIGUEZ; Como to gusta cagar el palo cabron. Ya cayate, hijo de puta. Todos van a pensar que todos los mexicanos somos tan pendejos como tu y tu pinche madre. Ya callate!

Jon you listen to Fly you will be screwed!!!!

YOU can look at this different ways more than likely we will pay for ins some where ,YES your right I DO HAVE ALOT TO LOOSE I'VE BEEN HERE 23 YRS WE WAS TAYSTEE BREAD SELLING THE FIRE OUT OF GOLDEN CIRCLE < ROUND BREAD WITH ALOT OF PURE INGERITANTS > AND THEN BUTTERNUT BOUGHT US OUT WE COULDN'T GIVE BREAD AWAY WAS MADE FUN OF BY RAINBO < SARALEE >DRIVERS BUT WE KEPT WORKING HARD AND PICKING UP STALE YR AFTER YR BUT THEN LITELOAF , AUTUMN WHEAT AND OUR ALWAYS RELIEABLE GOLDEN HONEY & EGG BUN WE GOT AS HIGH AS 32% MARKET THEN ARE GOOD MGT RETIRED YOUNG NONOTHING THAT COULDN'T RUN A ROUTE PUNKS TOOK OVER < YES MEN > WOULDN'T TELL UPPER MGT OUR IDEAS REMEMBER CHAIN OF COMAND THEY WOULD CRY AND ALL ALONG WE STARTED TO FADE WITH ALL THIS WONDER CRAP THIS IS BUTTERNUT LAND ALL SAID I HAVE 7 YRS TO GO I HAVE 5 WKS VACATION AND BOYS I HAVE EARNED IT I HAVE MISS VERY LITTLE IN THIS TIME FRAME AND I RULE !!!! I RUN 9450 AVG LAST ROUTE 9200 AVG I DO WORK HARD I TUCK TAILS AND BACK CALL EACH DAY ALL IN ALL I"M NOT READY TO THROW THIS AWAY I HAVE A SICK WIFE I TAKE CARE OF AND HAVE TWO PART TIMEJOBS SO YOU YOUG PEOPLE BETTER THNK TWICE IF YOUR NOT HAPPY AND WHO IS ! KEEP YOUR JOB AND APP. AT ANOTHER PLACE THEN LEAVE PROTECT YOUR SELF

Here is Volpe's office number:1-516-747-0696.

Boy, What got all you people fired up? You must have got you ballots.Do what you gotta do, dickheads.

Name: Anonymous Date: 2008-10-27 Location: Location:Wayne, NJ Comment: Boonie,OK,but can Teamsters come after me (us) for having them investigated on this issue? if so,does this fall under the Whistle Blower act? /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////No, WAYNE, the Teamsters cannot come back on you for anything. You are protected by law the same as if you were to file a complaint against the Company.

hey breadman philly >>>>i think your wrong >>>they won't reopen w/ another name IT WILL SELL OF THE brands though.REMEMBER THIS>>>>>without experienced routemen NO product gets to market.and i don't care what bread co. it is>>>>there will be jobs for the real workers and not the slackers .think about it

I recently picked up a couple more stores getting me to around a $5300 weekly average most of the summer I did around $4300 a week. I just have a lot of stores that cant sell anything. To close together bad side of town. I will prob make $35,000 this year total and its getting cut $110 week? insurance going up? Plus paying union dues. I will not make anything.

Hey Philly, Shut your fucking mouth you cunt!

jon don't go to meeting don't vote don't sign anything the concession are coming no matter what but you go there that will cost you 60$ a month in dues plus 300$ for joining just keep doing your route pay no mind to anything else that's a summer route you probaly did more in summer right

Some of you on here ahve a very nasty mouth, So I guess its you that did'nt care about a company thats payed you, If the vote for the agreement ends up No ibc will shut its doors and reopen under another name and it will not be hireing back unions members and all you complain wineing people will be without a job and that is what will happen, So all your foul mouth and complaining and this site will no longer be needed. think about that, and you can belive me I have a good job here at ibc which was cbc and before that itt I been though 3 buyouts and I do know this is the real deal, So after 35 years I'll retire even though I rather work I find it a real shame that any ibc person would post stuff like ived seen here what that kind of idc attude is no wonder we ended up like this. its so sad.

fly... I am at Wilmington Depot I believe its teamsters but not positive. We don't have a union rep or anything. From what I am reading I got to vote yes as I have a family to support. Id like to know exactly whats being cut though. I got one suck ass route though 20+ stores a day and can barely break $1000 so I am not making much to begin with.

read the proposal about reopening so cal>>>>ibc does the study as to feasability to reopen and it is there decision alone not the TEAMSTERS>>>>>they won't reopen they lost to much market share>>>>>THEY JUST WANT THE VOTES>>>i feel bad for all in so cal >>>but im voting NO and i'll be in the same boat (a sinking ship)they are trying to recoup way TO much money from us workers.so let the chips fall ,whoever buys the brands will need experienced workers because they can't pick all that up w/ there current workforce.just like hostess coudn't handle drakes when they took it over we lost millions of the bat .what can i say vote no.i need a job too ,but to give these jerks more money HELL NO!!!!!

jon what union are you guys teamster bakers or uaw and what area are you in duram raliegh greensboro hu

BOB WHO ? BOB BASTARD, YOU KNOW MY REAL NAME ,WHAT'S YOURS ,SACK OF SHIT,M/F.

Come on people talk about what is going with the , vote not stupid talk and name calling.

Teambrock is only trying to promote his worthless ass. He's just a fat slug

HEY RUDY RODRIGUEZ : You like men to suck on your ass? The rumors were right - not only are you a wetback but you're a fag too.

NOT ONE OF YOU IDIOTS ON THIS WEBSITE KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE ALL TALKING ABOUT, INUENDOS AND GUESS WORK ARE ALL YOU CAN COME UP WITH. THIS COMPANY SUCKS. THE TEAMSTERS SOLD US DOWN THE RIVER. WERE ALL SCREWED SO VOTE NOOOOOOOOO AND LET THIS PLACE SHUT DOWN, WHY IN HELLS NAME SHOULD WE PASS THIS CRAP JUST TO LET THE SENIOT PEOPLE RETIRE AND LET THE REST OF US SUFFER IN ANGUISH FOR YEARS TO COME, ST. LOUIS RSR'S RULE AND WE ARE BEING MADE TO SUFFER BECAUSE YOU ALL CANT DO YOUR JOB RIGHT. VOTE NO AND LET THIS PLACE DIEEEEEE!!!!

Not sure if I get a vote or not. I do not pay union dues. I have been here less than a year also is why I am guessing I dont. There is 3 of us that that includes but I do run a route. Im not at Rocky mount thats just where we get our bread so its the closest i could pick from. Maybe the new to us strawberry and twinkie 100 cal cake will save us all. They sure are ordering plenty enough for me.

I'm asking again does every one get to vote teamsters and bakers ,what does this mean to the out come . If teamsters vote no and bakers vote yes . BONNVILLE please answer this.

Boonie,OK,but can Teamsters come after me (us) for having them investigated on this issue? if so,does this fall under the Whistle Blower act?

SO BROCKIE YOUR CALLING FOR YOUR OWN HEAD ?????

JON you'll be asked to take a 110 pay cut & pay 30 for ins ,and if you don't vote yes they say we shut down before Thanksgiving BROTHER I have no words GOOD LUCK AND POST BACK LATER .

Butternut Bob: Once the dust settles, THE LAZY WILL BE GONE!!! I am very POSITIVE about that.

We are having a meeting Wednesday night at 6PM an hour and a half away. What exactly is going on?

BROCK ;DON'T BE NEGATIVE WASN'T IT YOU RIDING AROUND IN YOUR BATMOBLE LAST WED < POSTING ALL DAY & FINDING 5 PEICES OF OUT OF CODE ON TWO RSR AND STATED HOW USELESS THEY WERE , AND THEY WOULD BE GETTING ALOT OF FAMILY TIME? SOUNDS NEG TO ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Talk about your devoted HO,TeamBrock ,you take the cake.You are the devoted Whore.(company boy)

San Diego,Your absolutely correct.NO WAY are they going to open up S CAL again.WHY? they don't make Pita bread or tortillias.People out there don't eat regular bread. white folks and even black folks are considered minority the're just useing you for your YES vote.Which by the way to me is illeagal since your no longer employed by IBC.(i'm sorry youall were laid off).

Wilder Route Man: TRUST ME, you will get your specials. I am certain your supervisor will add on the product you need . Please have some FAITH!!! Remember be positive.

Just for shits and gigles does anyone know what the thrift bitches and the BCT are giving up... I know what transport and loaders are giving up who are in the teamsters but not the others.. A thrift store girl told me that they settled weeks ago and didnt lose a thing and actually got a raise

Sorry brock but I have to say macdonald and his boss(OZ) are total dumbasses.. I asked them the other day what the sales were for the next week because they didnt have it up on the board and both of them said we don't know? WTF they are the ones who are SUPPOSED to get the sales info to the reps for us to order... How am I supposed to order for a sales that only they know about but wait till after it's impossible for us to order for it!

ANON. SAN DIEGO; IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN . FIND A JOB.

YES YES they did us a wonderful favor BREWMASTER nothing like getting paid what your worth and treated with respect and dignity something IBC will never do with their INCOMPETENT MANAGEMENT i.e HALFAPUSSY and Fishkunt HR Mnger thank GOD we are free !!!!!!!!!!!

SOCAL. HOW SAID YOU WILL REOPEN IF YOU VOTE YES ?

Hostess Los Angeles Ca: We are ALL "employees" of this company. I think that most of the "employees" are good people, just maybe misinformed. Lets be Positive NOT Negative!!!

Hi to you all...It's hard to beleive it's been one year today Oct 27 that we have we were laid off. We layoffs Wonderbread and Hostess drivers are a tough bunch. We must dust ourselves off and continue on. We are all hoping this companys does something. If you moved on great, or you moved on and will return great. I would say most of the drivers( and you know who you are) are hardworking and remember cream rises to the top so you will be GOLD to your company , if we get called back or another one ,if they are Lucky enough to get you. Hang in there we have all had a rough year but this one will be better. I know that whomever gets me will have a better worker than before because now I appreciate my job even more than I did. I am still looking for that right job but have really enjoyed my freedom, family time, and no schedule this year. I am praying for all the laid off drivers for success in whatever you do. Whatever you end up doing will be great. Keep a positive attitude and remember it all happens for a reason. Maybe some were suppose to move on I am not sure. Good Luck , Be positive, Be strong, Hold your head high................Your Job doesn't define you......smile ............... Devoted HO HO

bROCK PLEASE REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS WEBSITE.yOU ARE HURTING THE MORALE.tHIS IS FOR EMPLOYEES NOT SUPERVISORS THAT HAVE NEGATIVE COMMENTS OR ARE STATING THE OBVIOUS. wE ALL WOULD APPRECIATE YOU LEAVING WITH YOUR COMMENTS DUDE

TO ANON IN SAN DIEGO,......If you're out of work now,how can a yes vote hurt you?If the co. is lying you'd still be out of work but if it's true you may go back to work.JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

to all of the socal people laid off. I am one of you and I just wonder how truthful the Co is. an earlier post said "By the Company saying that they'll "look into" reopening SoCal, it gives 1300 employees a solid reason to vote "yes", even though there is no guarantee that IBC will actually reopen SoCal. but it's 1300 favorable votes that the Teamster International and the Company are already ahead before the voting ". It makes me think maybe the Co. is useing us. It's not like the Co never lied to us. Just something to think about before you vote.

nice scare tatics till december go to hell vote no call the bluff.

JOSE MARIONETTE, YOU CAN SUCK MY ASS ,YOU FUCKING BITCH.

Wilder routeman Cincinnati OH: Good A. M., You are so wrong about Mr. Macdonald. Please give him a chance. I think that if you follow his direction, you will see a bigger paycheck at the end of the week. Most routemen need to be pushed and motivated to help them reach their goals. Please move with us, together we will be UNBEATABLE!!!

Charlotte fuck you i've been here over twenty five years i've seen lots of dumb fucks like you come and go and will probaly see more i think you are in more danger of losing your job that i am seeing how by your own amission you are a (dumb ass) teamster not that being a teamster is bad unless it's you , i know a lot of good people that are teamsters and are proud of it and by the way i am the best at what i do so once again fuck you and the horse you rode in on and i'll leave it at that cause your not worth me wasteing my time on dip shit

Knoxville kiss my ass your a punk and your one who will loose their job, your a FLY wanna be!!!! start calling you FLY#2

Charlotte N.C. i've got a big red dick you can suck you really think i would be out walking a picket line all by myself you fucking moron no wonder they closed your plant down fucking dumbasses like you, you goffey fuck you sound like one of those Bob Ray dick sucking croines anyway oh yea the Bob Ray that they fucking FIRED oh and by the way fuck you

Vote NO, lets shut this thing down. Oh thats right no jobs! how about vote YES gives you time to find another job. or vote NO tell the kids gonna be a LEAN christmas!!! leave on your own terms!! vote yes then leave! give the rest of us a chance!!

vote no read the proposal we will never get any money back they have a stipulation in there that says that any money after profit will be used to make up increase in medical>>>same goes for profit sharing....this is just a way for ibc to make big money off of us quickly and then sell off>>>>this is the direction were heading and if you don't believe it your dumb,good luck all>>>>VOTE NO!!!!!

phil is a panzy.vote yes he says or you wont have a job come december . your a moron if you think that. these guys arent gonna give up that easy .they have dip money feb 2009

Rudy Rodriguez - You are such a fag. Why don't YOU go back to Tijuana. I'd rather be a marionette than a fucking fag.

Does anyone remember why the stock tanked? The company withheld the earnings report allowing Sullivan to retire and cash in his stocks. When they finally announced that our quarterly earnings were not meeting projections it started a landslide in our stock prices, multiple class action lawsuits and the only way out of the mess was BK. Let's not mention that during Alvarez tenure we were fined by the SEC for not reporting funds that we were putting in Work Comp reserves. ( at the time we were self-insured, how convenient).

JOSE OF SAN DIEGO, GO BACK TO TIJUANA WHERE YOU BELONG. MARIONETTE!!!!

Does anyone out there know what kind of pay cuts and insurance cost the BCTGM thriftstore gals are taking for their 3 rd round of cuts? Thank goodness I wised up and left the company a few months ago biut, I still worry about my friends that I worked with for so many years. I hear they have a meeting next month to VOTE..Ya Right,Like their votes really matter!!

it was one year ago today craig jung did me and my family the biggest favor ever. I make seven dallars more an hour I have weekends off I am in the same union, And work for a company that treats its employees with repect. believe me folks once your gone from this piece of sh#t company you will be mad you didn't do it sooner.

Calm down children, It's bedtime.

WELL BOONIE I JUST WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT EARLIER POST PAYER CAN'T CHANGE A THING ? SIR THAT IS WHERE YOU ARE WRONG ! MY FELLOW WORKERS I PRAY FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILYS AND FOR THE LORD TO TAKE CARE OF THIS I REALLY BELIVE HE WILL HAVE A GOOD DAY I AM OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry Fly DAUGHTER ON comp. your no dought out it's 1030 et I have extra man driving me around next two days Being treated good for change since I called 1800 # and H.R came down after boss has been hasseling me I suggest to do same if hasseled for no reason No Man needs the added presure these kind of mgt will not be tollerated beware TEAMBROCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

6.6 Directors and Officers. (a) The existing officers or managing members of the Debtors shall remain in their current capacities as officers of the Reorganized Debtors, subject to the ordinary rights and powers of the board of directors or equityholders, as the case may be, to replace them. (b) On the Effective Date, the term of the current members of the board of directors of IBC shall expire. The initial board of directors of Reorganized IBC will consist of eight (8) directors. Craig Jung (or in the event of his death, incapacity, or resignation, the chief executive officer of IBC) shall serve as a director. Equity Investors shall designate five (5) directors. The Prepetition Investors shall designate two (2) directors reasonably satisfactory to Equity Investors. The Persons designating board members shall file with the Bankruptcy Court and give to the Debtors written notice of the identities of such members on a date that is not less than ten (10) days prior to the Voting Deadline. (c) Other provisions governing the service, term and continuance in office of the members of the board shall be as set forth in the Organizational Documents of the Reorganized Debtors. http://www.kccllc.net/documents/0445814/0445814081004000000000005.pdf////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////Hey, Needledick (spelled F-L-Y)...is this what you're talking about? As I read this, a new board will be nominated by the EQUITY INVESTORS ONE of them beling Ripplewood, as there are also TWO thers: SilverPoint and Monarch Capital. That means, asshole, that Ripplewood won't be appointing anone, they will have a ONE THIRD say in who five board members are. Also, I see a VERY interesting sentence dictating that Craig Jung will maintain a seat on the NEW Board of Directors. Why don't you give it up and quit trying to spin things? 130Mil isn't buyiing any "power" for Ripplewood. Geez....sometimes a battle of knowledge against you is like fighting an unarmed man.

where's butternut bob still in church need you to take over the ibc bashing I need to get to sleep 200 am comes up quick like you all say in my mommies basement

To the chick in Indio, It's not my store you went into, but in there defence, Mgmt has been on a slale or returns kick. Company is losing millions every month, and they want the stale down even if it means lost sales. If a store only sells $100 a week, Does it make since to run $100 with 15% stale or run $100 with 5% returns. You dont need to cram the shelfs full, thats mostly to please the customer, and IBC has forgotten about customer service. See how much service they get when they cut the reps pay $140 a week. With all due respect, you have been away for a while, you would be better off persueing that school teachers position, since you have a degree in all.

what store man what the fuck are you talking about I'm at the wonder depot on route 110 in farmingdale 230 every morning come on down dumbass

Fly is if I get my hands on him, and you lieing homo!!! I have been at that store, the IBC guy there told me he knew nothing about you!!! Oh now I am lieing right??? that will be your next post anyway!!!! if that was you i talked to YOU are a coward!!!! "no man, no man, I'm not fly". now go ahead tell everyone it is not true, and go VOTE "YES" like you said you was going too, Your not a teamster, your a coward!!! tell mommy i hurt your feelings bitch!!!

its all over the internet that's what I'm saying do some research before you post man your really showing how Lillte you know geez just google ripplewood buy ibc or ripplewood appoints new board you really turned out to be a real meatball face it its over let it go man

Oh yeah? Show me where that is written, FLY.

wow boonville you really been out of the loop ripplewood is appointing 5 people to the new board and jp morgan chase will appoint 2 people and your buddy jung will stay on as ceo at least till they can drive him out do some research its common knowledge man its bad when a fly knows more then you dumbass

Hey asshole....spelled FLY....WHO went to the court and announced a deal between IBC and the Teamsters? Was it Ripplewood, or did the Company announce a deal with the Teamsters? By the way...you STILL thinking that your Teamsters did you right? Also, where you still coming up with a new BOD and Jung and Management out? Sorry, the Teamsters couldn't negotiate a deal like that. Also, 130Mil isn't buyiing control of IBC. Not by a long shot. I'm really starting to agree with others on this site....you really are an intrangient little prick who lives in his momma's basement. You run around here agreeing that you were screwed by your own union, only to come back ten minutes later and say the opposite. Seems to me that if some of your Teamster "brothers' get their hands on you that you're the "dead man walking".

Does anyone have an address where I can send Volpe a thankyou note for throwing all of us under the bus!

right boonville you said ripplewood had no standing in the court the judge would throw them out you where wrong again like I said ripplewood stole the company for 130$ million you see the judge will go with any deal that keeps ibc together to keep pension mess out of the feds hands ibc couldn't get no money without teamster concession so why should volpe deal with jung no reason dead men walking

Actually, WAYNE, I would know...go back and read the posts I shared with someone else a few days ago...contact the National Labor Relations Board. They would be HAPPY to discuss how the Teamsters International violated about three different labor laws by negotiating a contract with someone other than the company, engaged in surface bargaining, and bargained in bad faith with the COMPANY. You see, the International was REQUIRED by LAW to negotiate with the Company. They did not. Instead they bargained with an outsider who had no sayso or right to speak on behalf of the Company. And to top it off, they did a real bang-up job of getting you a "better" deal, huh?

misery likes company that's why vote no and don't leave also cough up more buyout money 10000 get real you want the bad apples out cough up the money jung

Mike, don't vote no, just leave. Why try to take everyone else down.

Indianapolis, IN....( Pastor Martin Niemöller ) In Germany they first came for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. ........Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. ....Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. .....Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.....Then they came for me — and by that time no one was left to speak up....Keep you hate list to yourself!

go ahead fools vote no then cry in december with no job

that was my post

thought you where coming to the depot to shut my mouth dumbass told you farmingdale depot route 110 there every morning 230am except wen and sun dumbass didn't know local 550 has a scab in it thanks for telling me also I have always said vote NO I can't help it if other people like to pretend there me really doesn't matter volpe will rig this vote anyway dumbass

Boonie,Any repercussion?Do we have a legal case against them for not doing what the're paid to do.(protect us from such drastic measures?Not like you would know but your answer sure would be of some entertainment.

FLY STAY OFF THIS SITE!!! IT IS USED FOR REAL TEAMSTERS TO POST, NOT SCABS, OR PEOPLE WHO POST VOTE NO , VOTE YES, YOU CAN'T MAKE UP OR OWN MIND, DO ALL US REAL TEAMSTERS A BREAK YOU SCAB

Read closer people, the profit sharing caps at 25 million. Divide that by 10,000, thats about 2500 a person. Not good enough for me, my vote is no.

All of the union people here need to stop responding to boonville. He is or was a mgmt. person. He hates unions. We get it. Stop thinking that this guy is helping you. He left the company. If he cared so much why did he leave. Ignore him.

I agree with DIRTY Show us everything make us apart ,and we all would be on Board ,and is the 7% eq. going to be there < not like these contest they call off in mid stream heading to CHURCH ALOT OF GREAT POSTS WILL BE BACK AT 730 et

just vote no

well get used to it boonville with obama coming into white house walmart will be unions too the world is a changing you herd obama spread the wealth you need to pay more taxes and give it to the poor oh wait you said obama wasn't going to win wrong again

fINALLY SOMEONE HERE WHO TALKS SENSE THANKS BOONIE

WILDER: All depends what the seniority language says. Potentially, employees laid off from other closed facilities can also vote. It's a price you've paid, whether you agree with it or not, for accepting union representation as a way of life. Why do you think unions today represent only 12% of America's workforce? Not only do companies not want them, employees don't want them, either. Which is why the Unions and the Democratic Party are trying to get the Employee Free Choice Act passed. It is merely a tool to make it EASIER for a Union to claim representation rights to a workplace, thereby forcing represnetation on employees, whether they want it or not. They don't WANT employees to have a VOTE in whether a Union represents them or not. You think there's problems in America's economy today? wait and see what happens if EFCA, higher payroll taxes, and Obama's "spreading the wealth" plans take effect. If companies are forced to accept unions, if companies are forced to pay higher payroll taxes, the first cuts employers are going to make is going to be in the number of people they employ.

Ok booneville you got me on some of that but what of the other plants who were laid off? those plants closed AFTER cali so they should still have the right to vote then as there seniority rights are still there as well... I dont believe a person who doesnt recieve a paycheck from there company should have the right to vote as they arent in the current conflict...

Name: WILDER ROUTE MAN Date: 2008-10-26 Location: Location:Cincinnati, OH Comment: Yes I rather have the court force me to take this contract than to have the union pass it.. That was when this shit company ever gets out of brankruptcy we can sue them for misinterpretation and force them to renegotiate the contract.. And as for thos 1300 assholes in cali who get to vote.. FUCK THEM.. What about the other plants they have closed around the U.S. do they get to vote as well since they are laid off or do they not count because IBC never said they would look into opening up there area ////First of all, WILDER, once the contract goes into effect, you are stuck with it. You won't be able to sue IBC for anything, The only one you could sue would be the Teamsters. IBC would be untouchable, and would not be required to renegotiate anything. Your only option is to act against the negotiations process and the misrepresentation BEFORE you're forced to accept the contract. but you will still have a hard row to hoe. You will have to prove that you were misrepresented, which is made all the harder because of the fact that Teamster members stood by and watched, KNOWING all of this was going on and failed to challenge the International when it was happening. As for SoCal vote, look once again to your Union contract for that little piece of injustice. It's those contracts which allow them to keep their seniority for a number of years following layoff that allows them to vote. Why do you think they weren't paid severance? Don't you think that it could have been part of the plan? By the Company saying that they'll "look into" reopening SoCal, it gives 1300 employees a solid reason to vote "yes", even though there is no guarantee that IBC will actually reopen SoCal. but it's 1300 favorable votes that the Teamster International and the Company are already ahead before the voting even starts.

Yes I rather have the court force me to take this contract than to have the union pass it.. That was when this shit company ever gets out of brankruptcy we can sue them for misinterpretation and force them to renegotiate the contract.. And as for thos 1300 assholes in cali who get to vote.. FUCK THEM.. What about the other plants they have closed around the U.S. do they get to vote as well since they are laid off or do they not count because IBC never said they would look into opening up there area

Havent been on for 3 days so just checking to see if my dipshit manager who thinks he knows who I am but doesnt have the balls to answer me(macdonald)... Hey teambrock need a rsr who doesnt call in sick or never misses a day to work for you? I wont do it for that 120/wk cut though...LOL

Name: Anonymous Date: 2008-10-26 Location: Location:Wayne, NJ Comment: boonie,why are you back?Get fired again?This site is addicting isn''t it?I know your a company man and all but whats your take on what we all think is bad union representation.Do you think it's been done fairly?Did Volope screw us all or did he really try to save our jobs.For a guy like yourself,who's well off,the cuts probably wouln't matter to you,but for most rsr,this is a big hit.Believe me or not,but this cut puts me at about the $36,000 range.Nobody is buying Hostess cake anymore.like i stated before,im inbetween little debbie and enntemans,thier stuff is still selling very well while ours sits.my boss keeps telling me to cut back.i'm only doing like 5,400 a week as it is how much more can i cut back. /////Nope, didn't get fired again, or when I left IBC. I left because I received a much better offer than what IBC was providing....I don't work weekends...Mon to Fri, in upper management. Do I think your union screwed you? Yep. What surprised me was how all of you are acting so surprised!! Look back through my posts,,,clear back to when the Teamsters teamed up with Burkle and Yucaipa and tried an end-around with Allied Trucking. They did the SAME damn thing!! Exactly!! Went to an outside group (Burkle/Yucapia), negotiated a contract, and lo- and behold, it was WORSE than what Allied Trucking was asking for!! Same thing happend to you here. Volpe went outside the Company and managed to get you a WORSE deal than what you would have had with the Company. Look CLOSELY at what Volpe got for you. With the exception of YOU giving up MORE money than what IBC asked for, what else did you get as a result of Volpe negotiating with Ripplewood instead of IBC? Job security? Hardly...PTM was the potential cause of a loss of job security....and PTM is still coming. If any of you EVER expected that you would fare BETTER with concessions once the Teamsters failed to reach an agreement with the Company, you were truly FOOLISH. I said that it would only be WORSE, and damn, if I wasn't right. And don't think that the escalators in the contract will ever get you back to where you were....it won't. Ask Mr. Volpe how many companies he has negotiated concession packages with over the years and how many of those subsequent negotiations ever got back what had been lost through the concessions. SCREWED/ You better believe you were screwed.

Well, I just found this site and I don't know what to think. We are having a union meeting Wednesday for some unknown reason to vote on something. Reading down the list it does not seem as everyone makes the same to start with so im unsure what we will be going to. Currently its $210 + 10% + $25 for loading our own trucks, and $20 for insurance.

ha boonville no b s if this was your co what could you do to save it. been here since ITT.

boonie,why are you back?Get fired again?This site is addicting isn''t it?I know your a company man and all but whats your take on what we all think is bad union representation.Do you think it's been done fairly?Did Volope screw us all or did he really try to save our jobs.For a guy like yourself,who's well off,the cuts probably wouln't matter to you,but for most rsr,this is a big hit.Believe me or not,but this cut puts me at about the $36,000 range.Nobody is buying Hostess cake anymore.like i stated before,im inbetween little debbie and enntemans,thier stuff is still selling very well while ours sits.my boss keeps telling me to cut back.i'm only doing like 5,400 a week as it is how much more can i cut back.

FLY, no one is reading your posts, you lie so much. Vote no, wait I am gonna Vote yes, your so screwed up you forget what you post!!!! oh and your so called source, remember he was FIRED, sure he talks to his plant employees, trying to get his job back!!!!! Nothing you post has yet to be true, NOTHING!! your not a teamster, your a scab!!!!

Boonville,I agree with Dirty, working to get this company back on it's feet, yes I am all for it. but what bothers Me, fact remains, path to market is coming no matter what we do, upper managment still get bonuses and stock options. We do reports with the same information, over and over, just in different text so someone in G.O. can keep their job, which is just dumb!!

Booneville, if it was just 20 to 25 dollars more a week I don't think any of us would mind paying. Its the other 110 that is getting us. As far as 400 a week on unemployment, that what some of us will be making if we take this pay cut anyhow. Why go to work and make 400 when we can stay at home and make 400?

Boonville, MO.....I'm all for working to get this company back on it's feet and saving jobs when they are so desperately needed but not without full transparency...... Put everyone salary including bonuses & perks on the table, Give us more insight on where the money and our hard wok is going. Make us a part of this company's future. Do that and I'll be there..... Until then,Sorry I won't be fooled twice.

Sorry IBC-IBT. Ripplewood can,t be a good way to exit bankruptcy, by taking money out of are pocket before they will even look to invest. no matter how you look at this IBC will be in bankruptcy or us the worker will be in bankruptcy .

wow look whos back as another important disision is upon us. i agree with snake oil how can they get away with painting trucks and doing extensive repairs on trailers. look under some of these and se brand new bogies and fith wheel pins landing gear the list is endless.and how about the cool million give away?

once ripplewood takes control over ibc they will appoint a new board and then they will get a chance to blow the 600 million only difference will be and this will be the hard part is we lose 600$ a month in concessions as ibc continiues to lose money only good part will be most of boonvilles cronies will be weeded out and fired after all nobody wants to keep a managment that loses 12 $ a month most lower managment will stay

DIRTY: You have a choice here: help the Company that YOU built back to profitability and continued success. Or get off the boat. You're right...it's NOT "fair" that you are being asked to pay for Sullivan's crime. But it is what it is. IBC simply does not have the financial resources to bail itself out of this mess without the help of its workforce. If IBC would have been able to "right the ship" without concessions...without changing delivery methods, etc. don't you think they would have done it? Three things are keeping IBC in BK: ingredient and fuel costs that have gone through the roof; the shit economy; and labor costs. Only ONE of those can actually be controlled by IBC. Guess which one it is. And if IBC doesn't control it, they don't survive. It's as simple as that. Think about this for a moment: you're being asked to pay what, 20 or 25 dollars a week for your medical? Most employees of other companies have been paying upwards of 5 to 10 TIMES that amount for YEARS. The days of free medical coverage are long gone. Gone down the same antiquated paths of specific skilled trades classes. Look at the steel and auto industries. Their skilled trades classifications are now a combiined skilled trade. Not the antiquated one job: you have mechanical skilled trades who do welding, electrical, and machine work instead of just one discipline. In the auto industry, where one machinist used to run one machine, machines are now set in "cells" with one machinist running three or four machines.

Boonville MO, Thanks for the Honest posts. But the FATAL flaw was Sullivan and the board were Thieves and they alone killed I.B.C. How dare anyone ask the workers to pay for Sullivan's crimes.... I'm talking about you.

OK La Hostessle'ts clarify .By moving on don't stay even if your not happy but if you do stay stop complaining not necessaryily you. When we say move on it's not to grap your spot in senority dude. Also if people have chosen to move onto other jobs go for it. Bitter I have been out of work for one flipping year as of the 27. So if they chose not to vote it's their choice.Phil from cinn. is right no job in dec if you vote no and let me tell you it's no picnic out here being laid off. Snake oil if you think unemployment is a cake walk try 400.00 a week so don't think you will enjoy doing nothing because you have no money. What burns me if you must know is when I go into a stop out here in Indio and the bonappetit has 3 flipping displays in a circle K and Hostess can't even fill up there inline rack ,And you wonder why this company is where it is don't get me started. If I was there it would be full.........Quote Encouraged to move on and let it go but sometimes one is prevented from moving on........Dude................ I will be back

Boonie,that pension your talking about is a Teamsters pension,BACKED by the federal gov.it's already in place my friend,already in place.you can't move it .

Attn: Local mgrs. You are a good & necessary level of people in IBC . The chopping needs to be done ; starting at the $200k level & above . This is where IBC is "top-heavy" . This is where we could become profitable . Dump the slugs .Let's start with #1 slugs ; Craig Jung & co.

This whole debacle is entirely Charles Sullivans fault. The buying spree that he went on in the 90's is like the mortgage mess the country is currently facing. When he retired and stayed on as a consultant only added injury to the problem. 500 million in loans with no vision. Most of these trucks went out with a full load of regional brands but he sought to centralize this taking too much time to do it, hence the demise. The bailout will come and yet the company has no real vision for the future.

Men, alway your vote goes in a secret ballot envelope, then a envelope to mail and verify the # of vote, no one will know what you voted ,the secret ballot is not open the same time it come out of the envelope.its been like that at lease for the 19 years I been in the union. I voted no. I would hope we all vote.don't second guest your self

IN THE KNOW: WHO was running IBC when it went into BK in 2004? What was caught up in a stock options issue that resulted in his retiring from IBC? When the SEC investigated IBC's books after the Sullivan debacle, it was discovered that the books were so poorly kept that IBC couldn't tell what it had and what it didn't. It was Sullivan's management decisions that caused IBC to fall into BK. That was followed by a poor decision by the PREVIOUS board to bring on Alvarez. Then, a group of the CREDITORS forced an election of a NEW Board of Directors who brought Jung in. Jung was doing what was NEEDED to try to keep IBC solvent and able to move toward an exit from BK. The economy tanking hasn't helped IBC's case, either. IBC WILL end up centralized, simply because it outgrew itself. Sullivan's plan of buying up the competition had one FATAL flaw: he tried to keep too many of the brands intact. He ended up competing with HIMSELF, which is never a good business decision. To say that Jung is responsible for where IBC is at is assinine, and proves that you're really NOT "in the know".

To Phil in Ohio. It looks like you are the fool. No way you voted 3 times and we all knew with IBC for 4 years now that it may be the end so if you didnt prepare for it .same on you.

I don't know about any of you, but I will get my 140 a week back. I still collect the money on the route!

This ballot is so bogus, its mailed to the teamster negotiating committee. Like they are really going to count these things.

Sullivan didn't put us in this shape Boonville there is no way your gonna make Jung look like a great man, because he isn't. Chuck did what he thought was right and we were making money from sales on our product then, now this collage educated dumbasses came and standarized all formulas, causing the product to go from great to piss poor, and the PEOPLE in charge can't SEE THIS why BECAUSE JUNG WANTS TO RUN THIS COMPANY INTO THE GROUND, because once he wanted to buy it, but had no funds to do so. Ask chuck sullivan he can tell you, jung was trying to get the funds up, he asked people from pepsi to help him, but they said no the company was too large to purchase at that time, well look now they want to centralize the business. Why so jung CAN talk his people in funding him!!! yes it is true, and you know it is BOONVILLE!!!!!!! of all people you know it is true, you worked so close with him, and you yourself said HE WANTED to centralize operations!!!!! that is why, and you know it!!!! why so much talk about selling parts of the company off. get real Boonville, you think we know nothing, but we know more than you realize!!!! don't we Boonville

Id rather have the court force a contract than vote yes to this stupid contract.

unemployment will be better than working once obama gets in http://www.clipaday.com/videos/the-day-after-obama-wins

SNAKE OIL: Pick your poison: a "NO" vote and have the court force the contract, or a "YES" vote and reluctantly accept it. It's your choice, because those are your only options. IBC isn't going to liquidate; Venters would force the concessions before he's forced to turn the pensions over to the PBGC. Get used to it. BUTTERNUTBOB: Not sure I follow you, unless you are saying that IBC management is actually HIDING money and pocketing it. That's pretty hard to accomplish, especially when the actual books for IBC are independently audited by the COURT. It would be virtually impossible for them to do what you are suggesting. What IBC files as P & L statements has to hold up to independent auditing as part of the BK proceedings. Its' really amazing some of the things you people try to come up with in an effort to appease yourselves. What happened to cause IBC to fall into BK happened. there was nothing you were going to do about it then, and there is nothing you are going to do about it now. Your only choices are to continue employment with IBC on IBC'S terms, or go find yourself another job. You can rant and rave and scream and holler and pray all you want to, but it isn't going to change one thing: your employer is still calling the shots. Your employer will continue to call the shots. Accept it or move on.

DO NOT VOTE!!!!!!!! names are on ballots voting need to be done at locals

Sorry BOONIE thats what a 6 Grade Ed.gets you!!!!

Do you guys really think jung and volpe are going to let the teamsteers decide the fate of the company. that letter I got today is a scare tactic.says we are going to liquidate before thanksgiving if we vote no. what a bunch of B.S.

BONIE SO WHAT ABOUT THE CUT WE TOOK TO HELP REORGANIZE THE MANY YRS BY GOOD FAITH AND YET WHEN TOOK THE CUTS 6 WKS LATER UPPER MGT GOT A RAISE ? THE SAME ONES THAT ARE RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK THROWING MONEY AWAY ON USELESS THINGS LIKE REBUILDING OLD TRUCKS 1973 FROM GROUND UP WHEN THERE NEWER TRUCKS SITTING ON THE BACKOF LOTS WITH BRAND NEW TIRES ,1/2 MIL ON OLD BUILDING ROOF THAT HAS BEEN LIKE THIS FOR YRS !!!! YOU KNOW THEY ARE THROWING THIS MONEY AROUND TO COVER UP THE MONEY POCKETED WE ALL KNOW IT'S TRUE BUT SIR THEY WILL ANSWER TO GOD ALMIGHTY JUST WHEN THEY THINK THEY HAVE IT ALL AND I WILL NOT POINT ANY MORE FINGERS BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE INVOLVED THEY WILL PAY & FAIL I URGE MY FELLOW BROTHERS IN CHRIST TO PRAY EACH MORINING HEADING TO FIRST STOP THANK YOU !

Boonville, One other thing that could be said,even though it will not matter to most union guys, is that much of the bonuses paid to upper level mgmt. was in the form of stock options which, even if exercised, are virtually worthless now. Those that did not bail out in a timely manner are in pretty bad shape. Your point about all union employees being paid equally in spite of ability or effort is exactly why I got out of the union after 5 years with CBC. Best move I ever made but I had confidence in my abilities.

BUTTERNUTBOB: Here's a few facts for ya': first, those who "caused" this mess are long gone. Chuck Sullivan HIMSELF caused all of the problems. Everyone workiing under Sullivan was the same as you: they had a job to do and someone giving them direction. They had no more say in what was going on than you did. They had the same choices you did: follow orders or get out. Many were collecting a handsome paycheck, so why get out? The Management team that is here NOW is trying to clean up the mess left by Sullivan. Unfortunately, they (and by "they" I mean the Company) require additional cash influx in the form of labor concessions in order to do so. It is a common tenet of business that those at the top make significantly much more than those at the bottom. Fair? Nope, but it's the way of the world. Bosses are paid just for that reason. to be bosses. If you want to make money like the bosses, become one. You have got to keep in mind that your worth is tied to an outside entity: your union. The Company could not, even if they agreed that you are worth more than you are making, pay you more, because of the union's insistence on one wage for one job. That is one thing that companies who do not have unions have the ability to do: pay you based on your contributions to the company and your worth. Just look around you: I'm sure you can pont to at least one guy in your barn and say: "He's a worthless piece of shit and it's a shame that he gets paid the same as I do." But the Company has no choice, thanks to your union contract. As for getting back what you've lost through concessions? Don't count on it. Historically, unions that have lost through concessions NEVER get back to that level. As for the person from NJ regarding your pension: what's it going to be worth if it's dumped to the PBGC because the company liquidates?

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OUR base is 270 thats after the 35 we lost last year 8% com. Take away 110 plus 30 for My wife is sick and has to use her companys INS I have one in College and one in a CHRISTIAN school I also work 2 parttime jobs 7 days a week ,I DO KNOW GOD WILL PROVIDE !!! THIS might not turn as bad < IN THE LONG RUN > MY QUESTION IS WILL THIS SORRY BUNCH THAT GOT US IN THIS MESS BE GONE , WILL OUR PRODUCT IMPROVE ? WILL NEW MGT ACTUALLY GO OUT AND GET OUR SPACE BACK AND TURN SOME OF THESE COMPANYS THAT HAVE WENT SOUR ON US DUE TO POOR MGT ? THESE ARE SOME VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE'S TO CONCIDER ALSO WHAT ABOUT OUR RETURNS AT THE END OF THIS CONTRACT!!! AND LAST HOW ABOUT GETTING AWAY FROM CENTRAL STATES , WITH A MASTER CONTRACT THRU CHIC.IL