Fly you are a no one, an rsr like the rest of us. You don't know what is going on or what happened, here in knoxville you can see the difference between breads pl and Merita. Merita is alot better than it was. I don't know who you listen to or what ever but you don't have an idea what maybe going on, we here in knoxville don't want anyone to know your an rsr like us

if any one is interested go to baking business.com and there is an article on the unsecured creditors and how they oppose the latest plan by ibc

Now its my understanding that Craig Jung is in town and I would bet my bottom dollar that most of the depots had the hell plussed out of them on both bread and cake. I could be wrong but they usually hide the true market conditions anytime someone senoir comes to town. On a normal Wed Sheriff you could go to virtually any store and see nothing but wire at 10 in the morning. the columbo product would be turned sideways ect.

ESL was the downfall of this company Fly....you are dead on...Our product is terrible and is the issue that needs to be addressed first but that would require someone to admitting they made a mistake.

Let's say for example that you are getting an average of 17% commission on all the brands you are carrying on your truck. Your route is running 10K a week for ease of math. You gross 1700. Your expenses come out of that total. The areas I'm familiar with would have total operating expenses of about 700 a week. leaving you with a net of 1000 in "net" pay. Since you "own" your distributorship your tax liabilities can be decreased dramatically. Home phone, CPU, Home Office,gas ect. If you opt for a trailer you can write off your truck you purchase to haul your product. Clothes ect.,ect.,ect,.....Bad news is vacation time but some companies offer programs to assist you in this.....it's not all bad and a very good deal for some. Some people...not so good. It's your choice as an individual. If your wife has medical care then one of your biggest concerns is addressed. Some companies can assist you with insurance programs at a negotiated discount that come close to our programs.

rocky mt your co weston is giving his bread away down there 1.88 wheat that in ny is 4dollalrs and flowers is killing you and ibc what you are proposing would be the record stale club ibc has ruined the merita label by putting private label bread in an old fashion bag and chargeing 2.49 a loaf white wheat is the king

Anonymous from Sacramento is correct in what he is saying concerning the Independent Operator Situation...

Tired of BS. One thing to understand is that our Company Or Products/Brands are not as well developed here in the South as they are where you are in the North. We already carry the Brands you mentioned on our trucks now, plus Entenmanns. Think Dollars/Sales instead of just Brands/Labels. Here is how it would would work. Say my Route is running $8000/per week. The Company would "Buy-Back" $3000-$4000/week of Sales from me in the form of 3/4/5 Chain Grocery Stores(Store Voulmes of course may Vary).Those stores would then be peiced together with other stores from the Route (Guy) next to mine and maybe one more to create a Route for an IBC Route Guy to Purchase. The Company would then replace the Sales I lost by selling my Stores by giving me the IBC Brands to sell in the Stores that I have left. IDEALLY $3-4000/week worth. They would have to have the Sales figures for what IBC does in those stores but I'm sure that would come along with an Deal/Agreement between the Companies. What I'm saying is that the new Company will operate from a position of incorporating the Sales from existing IBC Brands into the Routes already being run while offering IBC guys a chance to come on-board.

You are dead right BS......most won't.......some will. You will find that in most I/O areas the routes become something of a family affair. RSRs take their teenage kids with them or their wife helps them out from time to time. Look I'm not bashing you or trying to offend you and if I did I'm sorry. I'm just familiar with different models of route distribution and have friends on both sides of the fence. The money that is made by the companies in I/O status makes up for the lack of control they might lose to a sales rep in those areas. If a company wants to go I/O they must be willing to give up some control of their business or they risk major lawsuits.(mis-classification of employees) In otherwords you can't be an Independant Operator and be controlled completely by the company.

Look no further than the stale percentage that has been demanded of the RSR's. Unless you have a prison, jail, large vend account or a high volume box store you cannot run 8% returns without missing your butt on the market. Our bread is 4.00 a loaf at regular price vs. 2/3.00 with PL at the major chains. The decrease in production is simply the sales reps missing their butts on the market to look good in the only column the company currently cares about.

My guess would be as good as yours Sheriff. Oct. 2 will be nothing more than presenting a plan to the courts so don't expect much out of that. The bimbo situation in Norcal could bring about some interesting scenerios though. Orowheat has pretty much hit their peak as far as sales and market share are concerned. They are asking for takeaways across the board in order to reduce payroll. they want what IBC has-----The new RSR model as it pertains to pay. If they do not get the concessions they want you might see them purchase the west coast operations and slowly integrate their product line to the IBC side. Is it likely...no. Possible.....yes. As a company you could take your average RSR pay at Bimbo of I would guess about 90,000 a year and put your product on a truck where the average RSR would be making 60,000 a year. That move would pay for itself in a short period of time and would allow for an expansion of their market share and income. Working the system 101 and Bimbo baking company is very good at that. In areas of I/O's such as the south they are split into different companies. One company finances your route purchase, one company supplies your route truck, one company supplies your computer equipment but they are all affiliated with Bimbo. In I/O areas they make money by the grips and they are willing to relenquish some control of their market to reps because of the fact that they are making so much money. My point is that they are smart and they are willing to look at all options to increase their bottom line

Sac,yah,ok,thats how it will go down.while an eantrapuenuer(diff misspelled)might take on something like that,MOST WON"T.i'm going to fund someone elese,and hope the're hitting the accounts too.how many rt guys you know right now that F up all the time?the door was closed i'm not waiting,they had plenty of bread when i was there last time,the excuses go on and on.you'd be running around with your head cut off.

Anonymous in Sacramento, I don't know who you are, but if too work from plant #75, then you are well aware of the reduction in production at our bakery. The question I ask is...where in the HELL did all of our business go? We make a fine looking loaf of bread there. We'ver always been a profit center, but I can't see much of a future working 1 1/2, 2 shifts. Please explain.

Look guys, the majority of us will be taking it in the shorts and there is not much we can do about it. The company believes it's problem is with payroll and they are going to do what they feel will ease that restriction. I don't like it one bit at all but if the unions have an agreement with the company I dare say that is going to pass. If it doesn't we will be modeled after the Florida election process and will recount untill it does pass. Everyone on this sight knows that. Just prepare for the worst and hope for the best!

Anonymous in Sacramento, when will we know if we are the lucky ones to stay open?

It's called working your ass off BS. Geographic areas in an Independant Operation model can be sold to add new routes. As an I/O you can even run two trucks by hiring someone to run the extra product. Most I/O's pay a pull-up person to take care of their major accounts. It might be a win-win situation for them

Don't kid yourself BS. While the banks have frozen line of credits to small businesses corporate america is still doing business. Liquidity and assets determine transactions and in the case of Mickie D's you are looking at a large Franchisee and not the company itself. Cash flow determines your financial options. If you have it you get it, if you don't you pay cash.

Rocky MT,just how many different lables will you be taking on?just the Merita?what about wonder,homepride,all the whites and wheats and rolls and ryes?explain to me how you'll handle the extra?

Ripplewood is only here to guarantee operating expenses while the company is being pieced out. Sure they have an interest in doing well but only for their bottom line. Ripplewood coming on board allows the company time to emerge from BK and sell off areas which will allow IBC to become a smaller, regionally located company with the ability to ship frozen products to either coast under the Dolly Direct program. If we are lucky the regions that each of us work in will be sold before the contract concessions are in place.

unless Ripplwood already has the millions in hand,which they probably don't,to take this investment,where are they going to BORROW 138mil?no bank is able to fund that kind of money right now,hell,McDonalds couldn't even get a loan to update the coffee dispensers,and their not in BANRUPTCY.

Tired of BS, I don't doubt what you are saying. I am only speaking for THIS part of the country. The reason I know how this can/is gonna work is because I am an Independent Operator for the Company you mentioned.

Renee,now does that make sense to you?come on.central state rep(who ever he is)is BSing you.CALL YOUR PENSION FUND yourself.

JOE where is the 23 million going to Ripplewood coming from??? looks to me like IBC is gonna have to sale a label or something

Anon,your pension fund statement you recieve yrly.for instance,ibc contributes $4.60 hr to the teamsters pension fund,and every yr they send you a statement of just how much you'll be getting when you retire.and it's BACKED BY THE FED GOV.

Rocky MT,for one thing we don't have just mertia bread out here.(never heard of it )we have wonder,homepride, rolls,nissen, sumbeam and the list goes on and on.NO WAY it can be handled by the I O.they have too much already,where the F are they going to add our product on top of theirs?even if they took 2 or 3 stops from each guy,first it will have to be approved by the I O themselves.they have contracts you know.out here weston is having trouble merging their three lables on to one truck(Frihoffer,Arnold,Thomas muffins)the IO don't want it.so there goes your idea down the drain.nice dream though.

Centrals States rep told me that IBC hasnt paid in full for the pension fund BUt that Central States will honor any amount owed to individuals.. not too sure how

Ripplewood gets $23 million upfront plus unlimited expenses and can walk away from the deal for almost any reason. General Electric Credit gets to charge IBC secret fees. Jung gets new stock. Unsecured creditors get nothing. Will someone please call the cops?!

tired of bs- I work in the thrift stores our contract is for each week worked we get $110 ? put into our pension fund.. example- I worked in 2005 -52 weeks, only 44 weeks funds were credited I can get my pension summary report by calling 1-800 323-5000

tired..you get a yearly report of what exactly? I have never gotten a yearly report on anything from Central States.

Renee,what's your job here at ibc?out here they don't itemize the pension fund from our weekly checks.and just how much an hr do they contribute?when all this started a couple of yrs ago,i called the pension fund to verify that IT IS INDEED BEING FUNDED.at least mine is.call your pension fund to make sure just whats due to you.you should be yearly updated by them anyways.i always get a yearly report.

once ripplewood seizes control of ibc it will be all one union teamsters NC your holdind a void contract you are in same boat as rest of us and your union is to blame for underfunded pension it is there job to make sure ibc was making there payments geuss they where sleeping at the wheel like I have said all RsRs will have just under 700$ a month snatched out of there checks you have no say no choice just except it deal is done !

That $110 is going into a 401K so how is that a pay cut ? Not true about $30 more for insurence.

So when will the out-sourcing begin in Sacramento?

$340,107,956.87 owed to areas of Central States pension fund it figures.. I have kept EACH and EVERY pay stub that Ive received from IBC since date of hire In the Spring of 2005 I started reviewed my pension weeks contribution sheet with my pay stubs It didnt add up the company owed me almost 1 years back pension contributions I fought it with a personal audit and finally won the back contributions this past Spring supposedly since the error has been found- Central States told me they guarenteed the disputed amount yeah right

I feel your pain. We never agreed either...don't have a choice in the matter. I hope for your sake it is only Teamsters. I guess I can't be 100% sure on that, since I am in Teamsters. Married, mortgage, two kids in college, I'm done.

Check your pension fund...go to www.kccllc.net/ibc. On the left of page click on Claim/Creditor Search then put in claim # 9208. Look how much IBC owes Central States. So how do you feel about a paycut now?

the Detroit area thrift stores have been told that one of the concessions will be a pay cut of $3.00 + $ per hour that comes to a little over $120 a week pay cut no mention yet.... of having to pay for a portion of health insurance or what else is being lost a meeting will take place sometime next week to find out what the Union and Company agreed upon

We have a signed agreement with ibc that was approved why would we agree to all that money.Are they going to rip up our agreement must be for teamsters only not bakers union and uaw and non union workers !

Unfortunately, they said all RSR's. Plus, if you want medical, $30 more a week.

All rsrs or just teamsters get 110$ a week we voted months ago no money concessions just shittier medical ?

The below post was absolutely correct (union rep). We had our meeting today, told that all route salesman will lose $110 per week, and if you elect insurance coverage, an additional $30 per week. In essence, a $140/week pay cut, apprx. $600 per month. Goodbye IBC.

It is true......Jerry in yuba city has pooped his pants again, he is not supervisor any more, proboly because he ruined too many seats in the supervisor van and too many chairs in his office. He did hovever poop his pants agian behind wal-mart in marysville.........sick

hey tom in phila. hate to burst your bubble pal but i have talked to the union business agent twice just last week. no crap either! we get to hear all the bull crap in about an hour.

hey richard b . s. v. says hi from T F idaho

oct 2 will be a water shed moment. tears for everyone but the fat cats

It's not nice to use the F word. Your mother should wash your mouth out with soap.

FUCK BCTGM

Is their going to be a union vote.

ANON in KC. what is true .What will Oct 2 bring.

mark iam ready to work my hemorrhoids are fine will anyone else be riding me i mean riding with me

Jim Slayer: NOT TRUE

Sorry about your Jeep CP, but you sure make that Buick look hot!

Southeast has been sold guys. We have been ordered not to purchase any bags for any Merita products.

"and the days go bye"....talking heads "how did I get here"...talking heads "Why am I still working for IBC"........all IBC employee's who deep down know they can't not and have not found a better job!! Getting a new job in Maine thats even close to what the employee's have now.....lol....get a clue!! Why do we all talk so tough in here...we all have bills and unemployment will not pay them. Lose my home so IBC don't emerge...thats no to bright...then again I am in this child like chat room. I'm out of here....C-ya

to boob. but there still will be stock correct it doesnt matter whos ticker symbol it is. the 12.50 strike is the going rate for the new stock boob

Stop talking shit. Anybody saying they have talked to the union or they are a union rep is full of shit. The details won't be out to anyone before Weds afternoon. That is a fact.

Met with the union people tonight, Monday (evening) The big bomb on the pay cut is $110.00 per week per rt across the country. Others give but rt's bleed. Your Stewrds will know this week.

TO: no way in Biddford-----------------after IBC emerges from BK there will be no stock...IBC will be a privately held company (Ripplewood, etc.)

Hi Sac... Hope all is well in these pressing economic times. Thought I'd check back in to see if the political climate in IBC has digressed, but it is apparent things are status quo. Shout out to OJ, Conrad, Honeyman, and Liston... Take care y'all, and oh Bruce... Dodgers and the Cubs baby!!!!

Hey quiet everyone this is on the low-low. My broker just gave me a sure thing IBC at 3 cents a share.....I just bought 1000 shares and if I'm lucky and sell at the right time I might make 5 dollars! Keep this quiet guys. I don't want this good thing ruined. If we play this right we all might be able to buy a pack of smokes!

Look on the side of your route truck....Don't crucify me for the exact wording but I believe it says IBC Transportation LLC. This company was split into many different divisions to allow the sale of different parts. It is feasable that the routes could be sold to a competitor. Now whether or not they would need the manpower would be a situation that the Union would have to address with a dovetailing of the senoirity list.

Did jerry poop his pants again?

Anon in Knoxville READ Northeast shut down southeast SOLD!!!! Maybe Mr.Fly is right about you people in the south,

Tire of the BS in Wayne,NJ. To answer your question. The way the new owner(s) will handle the extra product is called" Route Splits". In the Case of Independent Operators, the Company will "Buy-Back" Stores from the Route Guys. Say if a Route Guy has 8 Grocery Stores, the Company will "Buy-Back" 2-3 of those stores from him, and do the same with 2 other guys whose Routes connect near his. The guys get paid based on the weekly average of the sales for that store, then they get to sell the new product (Merita) in the stores they have left. It's a Double-Win situation for the Route Guy, and it creates new Routes for the IBC guys who want to stay in the Bread Business. IBC guys won't get to keep "their" route, but they will have a good route available, probably in the same area, if they choose to come with the new Company.

Wayne I am from Knoxville and we have heard IBC sold our routes out to other operators, now that isn't what our local said, but I myself know a Sara Lee operator who said that. I just hope he was wrong.

Anon in KC makeupyour mind first its the northeast now its the southeast

hey ripplewood please start the stock at a 12.50 strike the market is ripe for another loser. if you would have started today the price would be worth around 5 bucks hahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. water shed moment ya right more like drowning moment fools.

You can't take anything here seriously since it is all speculation. How are we doing as a company when a MUGM can't even spell. We use Windsor Marketing and they can't even spell the company name right. We just threw away 40,000 dollars worth of out purchase product and nobody even cares or knows. What is wrong with this picture?

Jamaca,that sounds like something IBC would do.try and sell another SHIT PRODUCT.we at Drakes,tried it for a while and the stuff just sat there,kinda like our shit does.today i went out on my rt and the only ones that had a selloff was Little Debbie,enntemans and even Tasty cake had a selloff.same ol, same ol.to Anon,call the pension board yourself,ours here in the east has been contributed to,i know,i called when all this shit started to happen.

does anybody know were hodgkins is on the profit list?

why if the union leaders know what the concessions are we not being told about them yet?

whats up in bidd im on vacation WHATS up with the special meeting i know the teamsters have one tuesday

Kansas city,OK,so it's the southeast you were referring to,i'm not trying to belittle you but just how will bimbo,sara,and geoge deliver the extra load capasity?you can't convince me that what they already have (owner operators)will be able to handle it.there trucks won't fit the extra product.or our you saying that the rts. have already been sold to different new owners?if you would just put yourself in thier position for a moment,and add all their product on our trucks(as well as ours)a truck can only fit so much,so i was just wondering how you thought they will handle the situation.

we just had a guy call central states on his pension he has the time and the age but he cant retire because ibc has not been putting into the pension fund when was the local going to mention that

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Wayne, sorry, there are 3 companies looking at the southeast, they are Bimbo's(yes they are interested) Sara Lee, and George Weston. And again the distributation factors have been addressed and no employees from IBC will be needed EXCEPT for bakery workers and maybe some in shipping.

path to market crag jung

I hear that Hostess will have Stella D'oro on their trucks

Kansas city,i;m not taking anything i here from anyone one this site seriously.your the one who posted that the east was being sold off to a co. you never named,and that they didn't need employees to run the rts.i don't know,maybe you forgot you posted such a statement.

Some make things happen,others watch things happen,and IBC management says "WHAT HAPPENED?"

After all, all he did was string together a lot of old, well-known quotations. H.L. Mencken

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Yesterday's home runs don't win today's games. Babe Ruth

"After the game, the king and the pawn go into the same box." Italian Proverb

Do not wait to strike until the iron is hot; but make it hot by striking. - William B. Sprague

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OH OH the bill failed folks im headed to the bank to take out my savings and by some bullets for my guns watch out for neighbors folks.

Memphis, from the information that comes in to my office, seems the Knoxville plant #44 has a nice profit, sorry Memphis, your plant isn't making that much profit, however the people in the northeast seem to think they are making all the profit. According to the paperwork I have seen the northeast isn't the big time profit maker any longer. I want you people to know I don't blame the unions at all, former CEOs and upper management are to blame.

ANON in KC i ask again who has the real sales for each region.

Teambrock: I do not agree with everything you talk about. But at this point I might just give 2 for you a chance.

OPEN YOUR EYES is a Manager who wants us to deflect the bankruptcy blame from IBC to the Teamster's Union and BCT Union and watch the rank and file fight amongst themselves. WELL he seems to be getting that accomplished! All this Union bashing does he not know why we even have a voice? With out the Unions IBC has no resistance on imposing thier will on us. To all my Teamsters brothers.. please don't be fooled, this sucks as bankruptcy usually does for all involved.

Anonymous Kansas City: Who are you? Man up, don't hide. I am 100% for this company surviving. What about you????

OPEN YOUR EYES....YOUR A F*%KING IDIOT....You some how think the Union has control over IBC and the bankruptcy????? Your pissed at the Union....The same Union that bargained for all your benefits and Pension that you so badly don't want to lose. You forget why you took the job to begin with...for the pay and benefits...so now that bankruptcy has changed the playing field and reality has set in you like so many others are blaming any one and every one for IBC's bankruptcy! If it were not for the Union you would of not even been asked for your voice dumb ass it would of just been imposed on you like all other employees who don't have a Union.

TEAMBROCK, In reading some of your past posts. I would say you and that guy that calls himself the FLY must be twins.

I want my employees to feel as if they are challenged and excited about their work. By giving an employee more duties, an employee can feel more in control of their career. PLEASE GIVE 2 FOR YOU A CHANCE!

Anon in KC who has the real sales for each region.

grrrrrrrrr. so many of yuo on here ramble way too much. and dont know what your talking about. last thursady we had a sles meeting and branch manager passed around a 2 page sheet of last period units and %. if you want to check ask your branch manager. AND YES PEOPLE THE NORTHEAST IS THE BIGGEST PROFIT CENTER THEY HAVE. EVEN WITH THE COST OF TRANSPORTATION. SO WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR STUPID INFO THEY ARE CLOSING US IN NOVEMBER. THE SOUTHEAST IS THE WORSE. ITS BLACK AND WHITE PEOPLE. NOW IF THE COMPUTER FIGURES ARE WRONG PROVE IT!. its the rumor mill that hurts this site so. in our branch we are $68,000 ahead of last year with lower returns. i agree not all branches are the same everwhere. just hope tuesday union meeting the union gets their ASS CHEWED OUT. THEY SUCK. THEY SHOULD BE TOLD THEY SUCK. THEY SHOULD BE DECERITED ANYWAY. THEY DO NOT HOLD OUR INTEREST IN MIND. KEEP PLUGGING. ALL I WANT IS TO DO MY JOB,MAKE MONEY, GO HOME.

Oh and Mr. Fly we are NOT cutting any routes in the southeast,who started that rumor? The Merita label is to strong in the southeast to cut routes, again where are you getting your information from? because you are not informed to well, Also I will NOT lower myself to name calling, I feel I am a better person than doing that.

Wayne, Look do you not think that problem has not been thought of??? You guys think all of us here are dumb? You people listen to that Mr. Fly too much. I may not know everything going on, but that guy will end up not having a job and will want to crawl back. He says different, but watch and see. And he doesn't know about the profit centers, or who is making a profit,or anything going on here or about this company. Please don't listen to him, I have read 2 posts from him and so far both times he has been wrong. I do want to wish eveyone good luck and God Bless in the Northeast.

maybe jerry in yuba city has been taking alli....... watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n5rnMbwQb4

Kansas city,yousay there is a co. that will still sell our line,WHO? and how do you think it will get to the stores WITHOUT US?you think their rt guys are prepared to add a line such as ours?boy do you have it all wrong.they can barely handle what they have now.i do hope a different co. takes our ass over.anybody is going to be an improvement.it;s been like working for children,crying all the time.eventually getting theirway.look where it;s got them.

Anon Knoxville Sorry I don't know what is exactly going on in Memphis, I have heard something about people needing training on machines, sorry Icouldn't give you more information

Fly, You are in dienile, and I am not talking about thr river. Quit trying to come up with your own conclusion. Face it you will be looking for another job and with your attitude it will be hard for you.

What the heck is going on in Memphis? Why are we sending troops in to help out?

another thing you are lieing about right as we speak you idiots are cutting 40 routes in the southeast if there making profit why cut there throat dumbass didn't alverez try that cutting routes howed that work out just makes flowers stronger and send more customers there way

get a raise out of them you idiots are the ones who keep the employees in the dark I'm just saying I don't give a rats ass dumbass

E.C.J We are still talking to both parties and so far it seems only a few people will loose their jobs, mostly managment, such as sales managers, office managers,production managers. shipping, ect. Mr. Fly where are you getting our information from?? You better check it out first before you post. If you read the other post I said making A LITTLE profit, you should really get a grip on yourself. I can tell from just one post, you are a trouble maker and just do it to get a raise out of your fellow employees. That is just wrong

Devoted HoHo.....Some of us know who you are, (we know that you should be here and others gone), PLEASE post who you are so the others will know. We need more like you to make a comeback. I hope we see you back quickly.

Kansas City, we have heard west of Knoxville will remain IBC, we have also heard from our Business Agent about the northeast also. We were told we maybe sold to either Bimbo's or George Weston, my question is how many employees (bakery and routes will lose their jobs?

I've been waiting four years to come to the depot and see chains and pad locks with siezed signs up they keep finding idiots to lend them money I really hope your telling the truth KC but I know your not there never comes any truth out of KC DUMBASS and how you think the southeast is making money the southeast is the worst pc in sales and stales do you idoits know anything in KC geuss not

Deae Mr. Fly, If you only knew half of what you post, you are such a ding-dong. Everything going on you know nothing about. Gene is touring the southeast bakeries this week. Next week he is coming to the great state of New York to help pull IBC out of that state, so to tell you the truth, YOU will be the one getting a warn notice!!! And let's not lie to each other, the northeast IS NOT making MONEY!!! The bakeries in the southeast except for Memphis are making a little profit. So Mr. Fly what kind of lie will you post next? Oh I know you will say I am lieing, Well I just hope you meant it when you posted about chaining the doors shut, because it may happen. The Company we are currenty talking to will keep Wonder and Hostess alive in the northeast. And they will not need any employees. See, watch for what you wish for it may come true

It's not $700 a month close,but no that bad. It's $110 a wk. It does suck but it's that or find a new job will post more when I get home.

first off you are not the real boonville (no smugness in your posts) second I could give a rats ass is they chain the doors tommorrow just know its not goner happen anyway teamsters will be giving 700$ a month in concessions plus the 130 million from ripplewood plus the 300 million from silverpoint that will last about 4 years before there bankrupt again

Fly, I just had to check today if you would respond to my post. Take it for what its worth. I am glad to see you are thinking positive but its going to happen.

Young gun what happend at meeting

Fly, I am staying in california.I love the warm weather and I have a home here.As far as our future let's all have a positive outlook compaining will get us nowhere.I chose to be positive.If I don't get back with IBC it wasn't meant to be, the next company will get a great worker because I am GOLD to any company. Any IBC employee that has the years in and has given their best shot will also be gold and will be rewarded...Keep trying.I will keep you posted sweetie where I land. Devoted HO HO INDIO CAL

Just got back from the specilal union meeting it doesnt look good I'll post the info when I can if somebody doesnt post it before I can. All I can say is NOT GOOD alot is different this time around I'll stop and get the KY before I post it up.

that's not the boonville you think it is anyway northeast is where ibc sells all there crap no area sell more wonder hostess or drakes just a fact caif is a whole different story high payrolls low sales and polliution laws from goverment tuff state to do business with also competion eating ibc alive remembe jung told you all failure will not be rewarded bloodbath a coming devoted ho ho why don't you come to east coast we got open routes in queens ny you will fit right in its only 3000 miles away .

Boonville is right. 1300 of us got laid off is southern cal. They kept the cake so NONE of us got any kind of severence pay.We did get promised we had 18 months and if we got called back we would still get our job but no severence pay.We were promised if we just hung in there we would get our pay.That's why no one up and quit the last two weeks. If you are fortunate to still have a job(even if your not happy) .Save your money...seriously.You should have 9 months saved up.Unemployment even with our big pay is 450.00 a week and you get 26 weeks.Boonville is absolutely correct on the severence....there is none......Hang in there......

Hi Hurting Wayne NJ, I didn't know that you didn't get ot. Well, that's another ballgame.I think your situation is different than mine. We still get ot, salary basepay, medical and dental ,commission. I am not sure what the new contract will be but that's why we all got laid off they wanted us to do Path to market and the unions didn't go for it Thank goodness..I am sure we will see major cuts and we find out some news on October 2. I am pursuing other avenues. I am updating my teaching credientials for a start and need to pass the cebest to go back. We will see what happens. Go take a little test for me. Go on the internet and look at jobs there is the problem . Oh Yeah, their are jobs but would you want to do them. Well, you think you would but then you really are stuck doing something you really hate for no money. This little test will help you appreciate what you do have. Right now I have zip but my time is coming believe me.Beautiful day here in southern cal I am going to go take a run.Enjoy your day off ok.......talk soon................. Devoted Ho Ho Indio, cal.....ps we are looking at 102 degrees today...whew

Boonville if they all are making money how are they losing almost 4 millon a month.

ok bonnville,so you think the east is going to shut down because it's too expensive to operate here.how the fuck do you think the stores will react to no wonder,hostess and esspecially no drakes product?you can't just stop a major brand from hitting the shelves cause you think it's too expensive.someone will have to take it over.if you(ibc) don't want to weston or sara lee bimbo will.dumb fuck.

Tom II: fyi, the northeast pc is not the only one making money, in fact they all are, you just dont realize how much money it costs for the company to do business in the northeast, eating into the profitability of the area. Same as the west coast and the overtime laws they have in Cali.... Oh, and if you look it up online, the warn notices the federal government requires for companies over 5,000 employees is 60 days.

Birmmingham,you should be on your fucking knees kissing our asses.after all,it's called JOB SECURITY for you dumbass.without things breaking down every now and then you'd have no job.think before you speak man,think.

Devoted HoHo,i'm not bashing you here but ARE YOU CRAZY GIRL?we don't get paid OT here on the east coast.there are a small handful of guys that will put those kind of hrs in but not this guy.i guess after 20yrs i got lazy.theres more to life than working for these people.they don't appreciate it so why kill yourself.you said yourself they got pissed for you getting to a stop late,it's weird,there are guys that pull out of decent stops and get in no trouble at all,then theres folks like us that get ripped a new butthole for putting in the extra effort.by the way,it is a small world,i used to live out there in southern cal back in the late 70's.i lived in the garden grove area for about 10yrs.we'll i wish you good luck in trying to get back with this outfit,even though i think your crazy for trying.

Bring it on, new asshole sheriff

To New Sheriff in town---Jung is in town to disclose plans on pulling out of Northern California. Bread operations will soon be closed leaving only Cake. The market share cannot be increased without a significant investment of cash to buy space in the major chains. Unfortunately that investment would not create the return needed to make it viable especially with the management and account reps currently in place. The cost of doing business in California forces this company to look for other means of distribution. Look for Wonder and Homepride labels to be outsourced to our competitors. Cake is not entirely safe either. Numbers will have to improve dramatically or this area will be looking at a complete line pruning of all items with the exception of Dolly Direct. Sorry Ladies and Gentlemen.

Close it all down, before it all caves in around you

Doug; Did you fall off the banana boat? Even if they issue a WARN notice to the employees in the northeast it requires 90 days so November is out of the picture. Most of the posters here have little more than conjecture to go on so read it for what it is worth. Mike Powers did "screw" his way up including the RSR's wife but that is the way the company wants it.

Tom II, Belive it or not the north east will be closed before the first of the year. First you will be sold and only one plant will remain open under new ownership. IBC will not close them while they own them otherwise severance will have to paid out.

Anon in Birmigham what the fuck are you talking about, fucked up motors and clutches. What a fucking joke these fucking trucks have been here since the 70s and early 80s. How many miles do you think these fucking pieces of shit have and you blame the rsr for this shit breaking own your a joke.

Hi Hurting Wayne NJ, Thanks for the support. I have a brother who lives in Jerseycity NJ.... small world. I know this job is tough. I am one of the few women in this area so tell me about it. A couple of years ago when we went thru the Wonderbread-Hostess merger to become one company I lost my route.I ended up being relief and had to do bread.They stuck me in Riverside cal. Wow,first day I worked 18 hours and did 25 hours overtime that week.They put me an hour and 15 minutes from home. I didn't know the area andI didn't know bread. I had 3 staterbrothers ,one albertsons, one vons,a cuple of del tacos.one ralph , gt in trouble not getting to the del tacos(5:30) at nite.I also got in trouble for getting the to the last staters at 4:30. I said "I would think you would appreciate that I didn't skip them". I work from the am(dark) to the pm(dark) until the last day I came in during the day time (with 21 other routes at that depot) and the guys clapped.They then stuck me on a route in cathedral city and left me on the same route till a new cake route opened up. There were guys calling in sick everyday but I never did. I didn;'t even go home. I paid 90.00 for two days in holiday Inn out of my own money. I worked 5 months in bread but kept in mine that I got 5 months experience in bread. I will tell you I would do it again. I could run circles around most of the guys. I know the hours suck and the split days off suck. But we have holidays off and we had benefits, and the pay was great. I had the freedom to be outside and meet alot of great people.I was a grocery checker and I never knew my hours, worked sundays ,holidys and didn't have 40 hours so I had to work at other stores to get enough hours to live.I will tell you I believe that this lay off will make me a better worker than I was. I can't wait to get out there and give 110 percent. seriously.I think it will all work out and we hostess/ wonderbread people are tough great workers and the companies that get us will be dam lucky .Hang in there it will all work out the way it's suppose to.Hey by the way I have a b/a in education and that doesn't make me smarter than anyone else.... I have just acquired the ability to learn. Hi Mitch Devoted Ho Ho Indio, Cal.

dumb salesman and tearing up our trucks costing the compamy thousands each month in repairs is what got us into the mess So all you rsm thats complaining remember you and your lack of respect is a lot of the problem. yea u want a job a new truck and all this but when tear out a clutch or drag the side on a another truck or blow a motor and then the company picks up the tab and all u can do is complain, You ever stop to think about the cost of fixing that, of course not you'll to busy being a jerk.

The Northeast is not closing, it is the only PC making money. Just another dumbass talking shit. Volpe is in the Northeast, he wouldn't do a contract cutting his own throat.

Special Union meeting Sunday at 10. Yes the Northeast will close in 60 days. Warn notice will be given in the AM.

Anyone hear anything, or can verify that Northeast will be closed by November? I don't know if what I heard (personally) was trailer driver talk, or trailer trash! I do know that Jung has big time meetings scheduled and the crap is about to fly. Where's the Union?

Craig likes me to toss his salad with blue chees dressing.

If you are a working middle-class employee,and you vote for McCain,that's the same as tossing Craig Jung's salad.

how true is that. chad "i go down on my bosses" splaine. what a douche bag. that guy has no clue. thinks he knows all along with his fat fuck brother ron "i take it in the ass by mike p" daoust. what a pair these two have no business being in the business. they forge numbers to make things look better for themselves and will put people under the bus too.

As long as you keep telling mr powers how wonderful he is and and pretend to like him youll be just fine.just ask the guys who kept their heads up his ass for years in central mass. area kevin ofarrel , ronald daoust, mike steele.they could write a book on kissing ass.oh i almost forgot the biggest blow boy of all chad splain.what a joke.

devo hoho,i'm sorry that you were laid off.now let me ask you,would you do the same job(hrs)for $600 less?it's not a easy job,especially after 20yrs of it.yesterday ,friday,i busted my ass in the pouring rain($3000 load) for about $200 bucks.and i earned every penny of it,and today i can't even enjoy my day off cause i'm in pain from the week of jumping on and off the truck 200 times(a day),cluching a harder then normal 24yr old truck,the list goes on buddy,but to ask us for another $600 a month,FUCK THEM.VOTE IT DOWN PEOPLE,but it will pass because of the way the FUCKED up union arranged the way it gets voted on.hourly people should have their own seperate contract from RSR.$10 a week as opposed to our $140.this is way everything passes,there are more of you hr folks then rsr,who do completly different jobs,ya know,i think i would love to go PTM,i would't have to be loading a truck,driving,unloading in the wheather eliments,just going into the store and putting it up,it may be for less but it won't be that hard on our bodys either.

I smell a Rat. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o

more blah, blah!

Seems Young Gun remembers MIKE POWERS right and the douche bag that he is. Yes indeed it's the same guy who was putting the wood to his RSR's old lady while he was running his route. Wasn't he buddies with the RSR and living with the happy couple? That made it easy to hit that stuff. He should have lost his job then. Instead he continues his climb up the leaning ladder. Another excellent decision made by upper management. Advice to the poor RSR's working for him now --Don't leave him alone with your wives!!!

Jung will be in Sacramento to meet with Arnold. Why? They don't call him the Terminator for nothing. Kiss your ass goodby as you will be fired.

Does anyone really think that IBC really care what happnens to the employes who work for them.

Here in Sacramento, Bun line is going down to one shift, Bread line in barely two shifts, Gene Moorehouse refuses to honor the CBA and Craig Jung will be in Sacramento on Mon, Tues, and Wed. of next week, what does this mean?

HEY THERE PAUL 1978, YOU HAVE NO ROOM TO POST. YOU CANT EVEN MAKE IT AS A RSR YOU WORTHLESS PEICE OF WORK. IF YOU EVER GET A JOB, PLEASE STAY OUT OF THE PERISHABLE RETAIL. NOBODY WANTS A COMPANY TO FALL DUE TO YOUR 'OFF CODE' FAILURE.

Not anything on BK web site for 10-2 court date They have to line up Vetters payout

Who the fuck is Mike "Austin " Powers wasn't he the guy that was puttin the wood to the wife of a RSR ? What a douche bag

Twinke in IL. I do not think you have to worry about money your to high up.

Cincinnati, we'll take all the pallets you can send!

yea volpe you " preserved our jobs" but now we can't afford to pay your dues . goodbye you fuckin schmuck !

ripplewood must have senile managment or they want to milk the pig for a while. what do you think

hey has anyone read the new uper managment change of positions. i guess its ok for the human resources guy in k.c. to move up to manger of path to market. what the fuck does this asshole know about anything. but what the hell its the same ol same ol at ibc put people who nothing in charge.

LosAngeles Ca( Hostess) Hey I love you too. WE Hostess drivers stick together. I will see you at the meeting when we vote. Thanks for your support mitch. Devoted Ho Ho Indio, Cal.

Screwed I can almost understand why there would be concessions while IBC is in BK what i can't understand is why 4 years after as is our case with our contract I think no i know we got screwed by the company and the union trying to ram this down our throats I sure hope the rest of the country don't fall for this , think about it if they come out of BK in Feb where does all the profit go then

Knoxville, what do you mean by budget cuts? I work in eng. and have heard nothing. How drastic?

Budget cuts whos money gets cut not managment lowest man IBC SUCKS

hey i just read the amended proposal! has anyone else? cant reah business agent and shop steward doesnt know either. one paragraph states that ANY NON COMPANY INSURANCE(ARE TEAMSTERS NON COMPANY INS.?) WILL ON THE FIRST SUNDAY OF EXITING BANCKRUPCY START HAVING $30 A WEEK TAKEN OUT. WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN? CAN THAT MEAN? BESIDES THE $110 THESE UNION PRICKS WANT ANOUTHER 30 ON TOP OF THAT. AND THAT HOURLY TEAMSTERS ONLY LOSE $10 A WEEK. AND YOU PEOPLE SAY A JOB IS A JOB. VOTE NO AND MAKE THE UNION STAND UP FOR US FOR A CHANGE. THIS SUCKS ROYALLY. NO WAY PEOPLE STAND UP FOR GODS SAKE. GIVE IN NOW AND THIS COMPANY WILL YANK MORE LATER. OR THE UNION WILL. ALL WE HAVE DONE IS TAKEN A SLIDE FOR 6 YEARS. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. GREAT COUNTRY AMERICA!

Wow! Love Chris P's shoes yesterday.

Issue is simple.....members are not....concessions are not about wether or not you gave your share. concession are not based on wether or not you can afford them. Concession are about keeping a company open. Vote with your minds, note your hearts. Unemployment lines are long enough, I know I was in it just a few short years ago. Pride is what most people are hurt with and won't admit that we are still working for IBC because we have not been able to find a better job, that is the TRUTH. Ask your self this, why am I still working for IBC? Save me and everyone else the I am close to a pension B.S. ...WE CAN AGE INTO THAT! Please, move on if you have had enough of IBC's crap, everyone knows there is more crap comming , deal with!

Fact: IBC will be the death of Ripplewood. Just what and see. With the stock market exploding and credit money drying up. JP Morgan cannot bail out every company especially one losing money every month. Watch the Teamsters pension fund feel some pain when this happens. Time will tell.

Gene M. isnt that bad, he just wants to make sure every thing is done right, and Memphis is the problem child of the southeast, Gene will go to all bakeries in the south, then he will travel to the northeast to help close a couple of the bakeries in that region, I think 2 in New York is going to be closed.

Beverly, Send me all the pallets you want to get rid of, I really can use them here.

I love you "DEVOTED HOHO"

What is going on with the George Weston Bakery people touring the bread plant several times lately? They have come through examining the operation more than once the past several weeks.

Not all Sarha Lee drivers are independent distributers...there are not any in my area. (Midwest)

So what's taking place in Memphis, I here all the big shots are in town. Tell Gene I said hi and go easy on the boys in Memphis. The shit is just starting to hit the fan.

Grumpy Millbrook ...Indio, cal...WELCOME ........ to the drivers website.It's your first time but it won't be your last. You will be shocked at what you read but most are a cry for help. So read on Glad you could join us. Devoted Ho Ho Indio, Cal.......

What happened to the drivers in sheboygan{did bruce retire},real brillant move with the cost of fuel.IBC IDIOT BAKING COMPANY

Knoxville Tenn........... JcMann just personally emailed me and her 26 year wrting for the Kansas City Star job was elimiated last wed. morning. She was a great connection for all us IBC drivers trying to get information,she will be missed.I hope the locals can keep us informed now??? Dee from Pomona cal.... your right about appreciating your jobs you must be laid off like me. If I had my route back who cares 12 or 14 hours a day it's a great job. I haven't had a job since october 27, 2007 or benefits so anyone compalining think about that one. Paul 1978.... Los angelas, cal buddy. Saralee own their routes.I want to tell you saralee are independent drivers so they make more than $8 an hour.They buy their gas and do very well and alot of hostess/wonderbread drivers are working for that company and they work their butt off also. They have very heavy trays.It's a good job also if you have the money to buy a route.I think it will all work out for everyone.keep the faith. Devoted Ho Ho ......................Indio, cal

This site has become a IBC mgmt . chat line . Enjoy rubbing each-other's tender parts .

i need to take a week off my hemorrhoids hurt

all this talk about IBC i just love to ride on rick again (opps) i mean ride with rick

Pallets Pallets Pallets! Witch 1 of you dicks needs some pallets? I'm up to my filthy TITS in pallets!

Who's wife did Powers do this time while his RSR was out working? Memory serves he married one of those wives . She got smart and left him. Better yet, maybe he's doing the RSR too.Anyone else out there remember his moves? I remember well. He's a piece of work. Moved from here to philadelphia and now in florida. The farther the better.

WHOM DID MR POWERS SLEEP WITH THIS TIME TO MOVE THE LADDER OF THE IBC CHAIN? THAT GUY IS A PIECE OF SHIT HOPEFULLY IF WE GET THRU ALL OF THIS CRAP HE IS THE FIRST ONE OUT THE DOOR. AND I HOPE THAT THEY GET RID OF ALL OF HIS LITLLE SIDEKICKS TOO AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.....

ya big deal read carefully there are hidden messages.

What's the word on Mike Powers being taking position as BU manager in Jacksonville . Why did Doug Newton leave ? Any of you worked under Powers before ? What magic can he perform to save the sinking ship?

Here is the Teamster Website post: Hopes rise for future of Interstate BakeriesKansas City Business Journal - by Suzanna Stagemeyer Staff Writer Print Email Reprints RSS Feeds Add to Del.icio.us Digg This CommentsRelated News MobiTV adds 1 million mobile TV subscribers in 6 months Whirlpool spinning back to south side Pizzuti returning to familiar role building huge Whirlpool complex Interstate Bakeries gets closer to exiting bankruptcy Tampa Bay Rays hit home run with TV ratings After several attempts during the past four years, Interstate Bakeries Corp. may be close to wrapping up a plan for emerging from bankruptcy. The Kansas City-based baker, known for iconic brands such as Twinkies and Wonder bread, said Sept. 12 that it had reached agreements with its two big unions and received $339 million in financial commitments for the exit from secured lenders and an offer of a $130 million investment from an affiliate of Ripplewood Holdings LLC. IBC said it plans to leave bankruptcy by Feb. 9, when its debtor-in-possession lending agreement expires. The Kansas City Business Journal attempted to answer some of the pressing questions about the emergence plan and IBC’s prospective new life. What still must happen for IBC to survive? The U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Kansas City is scheduled to decide Oct. 2 whether to approve IBC’s financial commitments. Even with that approval in hand, IBC has a long list of tasks to accomplish for the deal to work. Union members must ratify modified contracts, and the parties must come up with a revised reorganization plan that, unlike IBC’s most recent plan, gets adequate support from constituents. The Teamsters spurned the previous plan, saying it preferred IBC’s liquidation. Financing commitments have been contingent on union agreements. Creditors representing 53 percent of IBC’s pre-petition senior secured debt support the agreement. The revised plan probably would leave shareholders and general unsecured creditors empty-handed. Ultimately, the bankruptcy court must confirm the plan. Even then, there’s plenty of work to do. The company has continued to lose money in bankruptcy. For the fiscal year that ended May 29, 2004, the company lost $33.4 million. Losses for the year that ended May 31, 2008, were $143.7 million. Who is Ripplewood? New York-based Ripplewood was founded in 1995 and manages five institutional private equity funds. The firm, which didn’t respond to interview requests, has invested more than $4.5 billion in deals in the United States, Asia, Europe and the Middle East. Ripplewood bid for Maytag Corp. in 2005 and bought The Reader’s Digest Association Inc. in a $2.4 billion deal, which closed in March 2007. Previous investments have spanned numerous industries, including consumer, branded and industrial products. When it invests in a company, Ripplewood typically brings in affiliates, which it calls industrial partners, that have been successful in the industry. These industrial partners help Ripplewood analyze deals and run acquired companies, which Ripplewood typically takes public or sells after a few years. Former Sprint Corp. CEO Bill Esrey is among the firm’s industrial partners. In an interview earlier this year, he said Ripplewood has an outstanding track record for avoiding losing transactions. Will jobs be cut? The parties haven’t clarified how employment at IBC would change as part of its emergence from bankruptcy. IBC already has shrunk significantly during the past four years, from 32,000 employees in 2004 to 22,300 workers now. Company spokeswoman Maya Pogoda said jobs haven’t yet been discussed in talks about the financial commitment. “The company has no intention of making job changes now, but like any company, we have to address changing market conditions if necessary,” she said. IBC has about 330 employees in the Kansas City area. Its two big unions — the International Brotherhood of Teamsters and The Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union — represent about 17,000 employees. “This plan really respects the sacrifices already made by our members and, overall, preserves their jobs,” Richard Volpe, director of the Teamsters Bakery Conference, said in a statement. The Teamsters hope the changing tide will lead to long-term job growth. “We’re hoping that the new operators will create more jobs at Interstate Bakeries once the company is reorganized,” Volpe said. Who will run IBC? Sources said they weren’t aware of plans to change leadership at IBC. But as part of the financing commitment, Ripplewood gets two board seats for industrial partners. Those two partners will be John Cahill, former CEO of The Pepsi Bottling Group Inc., and Greg Murphy, former CEO of Kraft Food Bakery Cos. The two said in a statement that IBC’s strong bread and snack cake brands best position the company for future success. Cahill was Pepsi Bottling G

TEAMBROKE: How were your numbers last period???

BROCK does get out of the office, every day for 2 hours for lunch.

in paragraph 2, who are the secured lenders? us?

google international brotherhood of taemsters

JC where do i find the website???

BROCK: You cannot lead where you do not go. GET OUT OF THE OFFICE.

On teamster wesite,there is the latest story coverd by the kansas city journal.2nd paragraph states that i.b.c has reached agreements with its 2 biggest unions.339 million in financial commitments (consessions,give backs). RIPPLEWOOD comes in with 130 million and gains control.You also might want to read the paragraph WHO Is RIPPLEWOOD. the LITTLE BIT they do tell you about ripplewood might give you an idea of whats going to be in the long run

give 3 for me!

Can we stop all the negativity? Remember we are all in this together! I am willing to step up and lead the way. Give 2 for you a chance. Remember, NEVER SETTLE FOR BEING ANYTHING BUT THE BEST!!!!!

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Oh and FLY keep posting your sorryass thoughts and the younger IBT guys will stop and who in the hell do you think will be paying your retirment and SSI??? you are such a dumb motherfucker

hey why should BC&T give up more??? we are the ones who said "NO" not them!!! you guys what are we a bunch of spoiled brats acting out? HELL are WE blaming the bc&t guys for our fuck up? What are we MEN or KIDS?? WE brought this own our selves, why blame anyone else?????

it must really be bad for bush to come on tv why should we help them out if I couldn't pay my credit card and called them to let me slide you think they would think not don't give those crooks a dime

Did you all see President Bush's speech on TV? What do you think?

Who says Ripplewood backed out? You're starting lies, you sack of crap

Take a minute and think about this. 20 yrs as a rt rep you will pay toward your health ben and make 35,000 for 12 hrs a day. Work the same 20 yrs at Walmart you pay less for Health and make more per hour and you saved 20 yrs of dues. Kinda makes you sick.

TOLD YOU ALL ANOTHER YACAPPIA RIPPLEWOOD BACKED OUT .

Guys you need to look at who will be on the board for Ripplewood. Look at the business relationships they have developed. Look at what Ripplewood does best and then decide how our company is going to be split up because it is going to happen. IBC will be a smaller company, centrally located in the midwest focusing on a smaller core of frozen products shipped to major box outlets under the name Dolly Madison. All other labels will be sold to other Bakeries.

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I don't want to give up anything.But in the situation that IBC finds itself in, I guess we have to.What I do want , is something in the contract that says that overtime will be paid at time and a half.The OT should be taken from a formula.I say $800 should be the figure that OT should be taken from.Then and only then will it a fair agreement. At $800 OT will be $30 per hour and not the $15 that we are paid now.This will keep the company from making me work 12-14 hours per day. This will make them put more routes on the street.It's only fair.

FLY: You DUMBFUCK..... will you quit screaming VOTE NO already.........There are only 10 of you dumbass IBT idiots on this fucking board.-------------------------------- None of you dumbasses make a difference anyway. ---------------------------------- OH, AND SO MUCH FOR GETTING ANY KIND OF LOAN IF YOU LOSE YOUR JOBS.

sally that's old news where the fuck have you been with your head in the sand

Finaly some one in here that knows how to run the bakery. Thanks Jamaica first we get your rolls and now we get your manager. To bad we are still stuck with dumb Fred that gets nothing done even when we ask. How can some one fix us in a few days and we have "managers" here for years that dont know what to do? Bideford please keep King Al with you.

vote nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo fuck you close it down we are heading for a depression anyway let's get on line in the soup kitchen ....................

undecided,you must be an hourly worker.we rsr already gave $400 a month.now they want $600 more.thats $1,000 bucks a month.i don't think so. VOTE IT DOWN PEOPLE.they'll come back with something more REASONABLE.or eles why pay dues?

Anon bidderford,your way off.with the CORRUPTION in the banking industry,NO ONE is giving a line of credit to buy a rt.do you know that McDonalds can't even get credit for thier new coffee dispensers.it's true,look on the news tonite.so your totally wrong on your thinking that younger rt guys would buy a rt.NO MONEY.VOTE NO NO NO

because the 110$ dollars a week will look good when you see the mangment get weeded out and route cuts in the southeast happen which is taking place at this moment also all jobs will be under teamsters like UPS is ripplewood is going to be the new owner they will not do stupid things that jung and his cronies do like push displays on crap that don't sell these people ripplewood is bringing in know about the business unlike jung also the total concessions come to about 700$ a month

anon. cant help you there. i hate the union. but you arenot going forward unless company and union agree. and it is sales(which is union) that makes this company money. that is why nothing can be resolved. you have non union who could give a fuck about the union, we have hourly who could give a fuck about sales, and we have transport who are really hourly. so the whole company is fucked. so anon. unless someone prove me wrong. it was the wording of the companies first proposal of concessions. it was not the money amount but it was IBC saying they wanted the right to do whatever they so desired without the concent of the union for anything. so of course the union balked and said no way. remember now i hate the union. all they care about is dues. this is a sell out for sure. today as our meeting draws closer to next week i called the business agent and they are so tunneled vision he still says its the companies fault. i told him this was a teamster proposal with ripplewood to IBC he almost told me i did not know what i was talking about. but if there is a small way(i dont know for sure) that IBC is also saying concessions from us in sales as we are the only group making them money then i say screw that. everyone should lose that $110 aweek. so dont just pin it on teamsters anon. this fucking company has been going down for 6 years now and we salesman have taken a pay cut already in base and retirement. i still am voting no. but i do agree anon. teamster suck.

Open your eyes...you're union is the one who is sticking it to you. Why should non-union be involved? They were ready for this to be over months ago. But no. Your Union had to be hard asses and look what happened. Even more concessions. What's wrong with you people?

I HAVE A SIMPLE VERY SIMPLE COMMENT. IF THE NEW CONCESSIONS DO NOT INCLUDE ALL 22,000 EMPLOYEES. UNION,HOUR, OR WHATEVER THEN VOTE NO. IT HAS TO BE ALL EMPLOYEES OR NONE. PLAIN AND SIMPLE I THINK. I CALLED THE UNION HALL TODAY AND TOLD THEM THAT. I THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY SIMPLE THOUGHT. AGAIN EITHER ALL EMPLOYEES OR NONE.

HAY KELLY ,FROM POMONA , WHY DO YOU REALLY HATE MEXICANAND BLACKS ,? LET US KNOW YOUR TRUE FEELING. WE DONT KNOW WHO YOU RELLY ARE ,DONT BE A COWARD WE DONT KNOW YOU ,YOU DONT HAVE TO HIDE BEHINE ASHEET THIS TIME

What a purdy dirty bird in the shipping office. RECP

To undecided still: A no vote may not be as bad as you envision. Here in the Northeast liquidation would have presented a good opportunity for the younger RSR's. Other companies and the independents in the area would all expand their workforces/offer routes for sale. The younger RSR's would have the chance to make an above average income and work for a better company or run their own business. The older folks who are near retirement could also find other employment to carry them towards their retirement date. Now everyone is faced with a huge reduction in income in order to keep their jobs. Vote as you will, but please consider all of the possible outcomes either way.

Undecided....so, you admit we make a pretty good salary with good benefits??? And that it would be hard to find something else comparable?

the reality is the creditors have to be paid. either by voting yes and we still work, or no and the company is sold in sections and most of us are out of jobs.the judge now has 2 plans in front of him for paying these creditors, it is not importent for ibc to stay in buisness. for those close to retirement the co staying ibc is importent towards their pension. the young guys have no bright future with path to market on the horizon. the middle guys have to look across the table at their wife and children and decide if this large pay cut is acceptable. wher else can they find employment that includes the benifit package and same wages?everyone has their own agenda as to how to vote. i have never ever voted yes, but i guess their is a first time for everything. good luck to all.it is what it is

Hey Kelly, If you are awakened in the middle of the night by some sounds outside your bedroom window?, Dont worry its only some greesey spooks and some stinkin wetbacks

When is the deadline for the company to present its plan of reorganization to the courts? When is the union calling there local meeting to inform us what the actual proposals are?

Hey Brock, You sound like some 25 year old rookie that just got out of his first mgmt. seminar. Dont worry the brain washing will wear off soon.

mark you nasty boy i didn't know you went that way would you like a three way

Have you tried "FUNGI CURE?."

hey southeast coming down the pike this is a fact chopping routes and managment down there geez you guys have the worst numbers out of everyone get it together down there flowers is killing you all now your routes will be cut and you will work harder don't they get it in KC route cuts only loses accounts dummys man dummys try fixing bread maybe you could add routes ASSHOLES

no way bidderford,don't be a big Pussy.send your vote in,even if you don't think it will matter,i'm sure it's a no vote because NOBODY wants to be giving back more to a co. that wrongs it's workers on a daily basis.i'm not sure what you transport had to give back last yr.but us RSR already gave $400amonth,now there asking us for $560 more.$560 bitch,can you afford it?neither can we.lets vote it down and see what happens,like you said,you can get a job in 2wks,you have nothing to lose and who knows,maybe the concessions won't be as drastic.

hey Brock, you are nauseating us with the shit that spews from you on this site. Your cliche prahes are soooo oold. They are as bad as the IBC wannabe catch phrases, gimme 5, 2 4 U , and everything else the corny sales dept comes up with. Oh heres one , how about, the dust on the shelves, do it yourself!

Well said "Common Sense"! I hope everyone can vote based on how their conscience tells them to vote. Do not let fears of the economy play a role in your decision, do not let others in your depot or work department sway you. This is a free country and the only person you owe anything to is yourself.

KELLY OR ? POMONA CAL. WHATS WITH NAME CALLING . WHY?

I NO!! thats not Kelly!!!

You should all be glad you have a Job, and stop talking shit!!. If you dont like what's going on get out find another JOB!!!! If you can?

I hate blacks and mexicans.

FLY: you are so full of shit. I look forward to reading your crap, it's funny Not True, but funny

common sense relax they have started weeding out managment right now the middle tier is turning on the lower tier of managment fireing them for what ever they can dig up this is true you will see for yourself shortly ripplewoods morgan first thing he said to many chiefs not enough indians this is happening only problem is we need the middle to upper to be weeded out

If it hasn't happened already, everyone well be having a meeting about what is taking place with this lovely company we call I.B.C. All of us workers(routes sales,bakers,and truckers) are going to either agree or disagree with the comsequences that the company is going to put forth to us. Some of you will yes and some will say no to the extreme ratifications, but i ask you to ask yourself; Did we put us in this situation? Most will say no. If that is the case, read on. We have over the course of 8-10 years given the company a chance to survive by giving away the price adjustments they give to supermarkets, froze the commission rate at where it is today, comingled the product in some areas and even took off routes to save money on wages and insurances. Where has that money gone to? Also we have given $40 out our base pay and the company has not contributed to the 401k in well over 5 years. So with all of that said, for me personally running a route everyday, I have lost approximately $300.00 per week for the last 8-10 years and now the company is forcing us again to give back more. All i ask is that ripplewood better have plan to oust every last regional and district manager who do not do a damn thing and also show all of the employees the master plan of getting us out of here. If they can not produce that, then I will look for something else because no one man or woman who work for this company should have more decreases in their pay again. We make this company go round not the fatcats in K.C. Why then should give the company more of our hard work when they in turn have absolutely nothing to show for what they have done for the last ten fucking years. they have only paid off higher ups and lawyers to keep us in this shit hole. Not once have they showed any care in the world to try to get us out of this mess. Hell i am willing to bet they wouldn't be able to get jobbers to do this work. Anyway, the time has come to decide not for the survival of this shithole company but for whether or not you want to work for less wages and it will, as the past has proved, be much worse later down the road when the company says, we need more. it is not about being non-union or being union it is about getting what we as workers rightfully deserve and that is not to go backwards in the pay scale as the upper management does not do.. Good luck and decide wisely

Gaaaaaarrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaagggggggge!!!

Anonymous: It's not the hours you put in your work that counts, it's the work you put in the hours!!! Give 2 FOR YOU a chance.

T E A M B R O C K : Sounds like you have many issues in your market area. Racks are dirty, trucks are dirty, 95% of "your" guys keep stock on the truck. Maybe IBC should look at your INability to manage people/business. Your threats and holier than thou attitude obviously are not getting it done in your area. Try the Bill Mackin approach: Bring it to the sales reps attention what is lacking and then roll up your sleeves to help correct it. Bill was the best GM in the business and IBC let him go..... I guess it's more important to be a "yes" man at IBC if you want to keep your job. Your all a bunch of "Dan Angsts" - losers

BROCK: then you could come see "ME"....Remember Jim, there is no i in team; but there is a "M" & a "E"....ME..ME..ME...

KC only thing is ripplewood will gut out managment and fatcats something jung never did let's see how it works that's the only thing left to do alvarez slashed the workers remember how did that turn out not to good we almost liqidated ourselves ill bet anyone first month under ripplewood will be in the black

This is for Teambrock, hey you guystalk about overtime.You want the shelves dusted come help us.You want our trucks cleaned out you help us instead of complaining about the overtime.Give us a break if all the stops are hit on saturday what 6 hours we are saving the company 2 hours overtime ...come on use your head. Indio Cal

Letterman's 10 best contest: "How to judge if your in bankruptcy" or "What would a Twinkie say about the bankruptcy".

Watz up with the old transport junk being sent W.V. sounds like IBC is trying outsourse transport jobs?

Watz up with the old transport junk being sent W.V. sounds like IBC is trying outsourse transport jobs?

Everyone does realize that the company that bought out IBC is an investment firm. They do not care about family or friends. A company like this cares about money. That’s all. In about 1 to 2 years if they cannot turn it into a big money maker they will break it up and sell it off. With a company like this it is all about the bottom line. Don’t know if that is good or bad. That is just the facts.

The Profit: Now you are telling me that you can't even clean out your truck. The mess that you made. You are also telling me you can't take an extra 30 seconds a stop and dust the rack. Ok I guess I could help you. I would gladly take your paycheck to the bank and cash it for you. Then you could come see for your fair share. GIVE 2 FOR YOU A CHANCE!!!

Chris P. is back! RECP!!!

KC why no more jennifer mann

HEY RICK ROMERO, Does Wolpe know your here posting? Your a kiss butt loser. Butt thats ok...You will be at Sara Lee soon loading trucks for $8 an hour.

To the wingnut at hodgkins are you stupid do you know anything about silverado and the savings and loan collapse guess who was in the middle of that .The repubs are trying to de unionize this country goofball ,bring up article from a adviser to johnnie boy that fair and accurate,maybe you can sell pencils for a living.We dont need bushes clone junior or do you want to work for peanuts.Over 27 years of doing nothing thats mc cain.

HEY PAUL 1978, YOU FIND A JOB YET? COME OVER TO MY PLACE. I NEED MY LAWN MOWED. I HAVE TEN BUCKS TO SPARE..

I love Rick Tripps Ass. We counted buns and then we measured hot dogs. What a lovely day. CUM JOIN US

well i just have this to say we transport drivers can probably have work in about 2 weeks if the contract is voted down. what are u route guys going to do look in the papers right now see if theres anything you can grab. if not u maybe in for a shock when all the hype is over and reality sets in vote no i dont care one way or the other. we"ll be working within 2 weeks no doubt. and the bakers im sure they can use a few at wal mart. ITS UP TO YOU I DONT GIVE A RATS ASS. IM NOT SENDING IN A BALLOT ANYWAY.

No more Jennifer Mann. Too bad Teamsters.

LAAAAUUUURRRAAAAAAAAA! LAAAAAAUUUUUURRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAA!

teambrock,you say it's your job to PUSH and motivate rsr.let me let you in on something,when you PUSH me ,it doesn't motivate me at all.it does the complete oppisite.you push,i slow down.just like when your DM pushes your ugly ass,does it motivate you?NO.you PUSHit at your RSR,it's always our fault.your trash don't sell,it' our fault.you know what teambrock,BLOW ME,

Incredible NewsFlash Tommy the Iranian Supervisor in Torrance is Quiting!!!!!!!!!!! I guess its back to 7-11, circle k, AmPm to create more slurppee flavors.....but to be honest Tommy has been the hardest working do nothing in the world........How such a kiss ass became a supervisor is beyond me........Thanks for the times you stabbed us all in the back!!!This is America you stupid jerk!!!!!!!!! WE see right through your camel jockey ass!!!!!!!!!!!! good luck and good riddance!!!!!!!!!!!!! now back to preaching the Gospel!!!!!!!

team CROCK, Emporia has asked you more than once why you as a concerned management type don't jump in and help with some of the "heavy lifting"clean racks & trucks,etc.Maybe you're too good to get your hands dirty.I guess you better get back to your Sruti & Smriti.

Profit: What questions do you need answers to?

Profit:::you are right on,thank god someone has some brains...thanks

These Economic problems started when Nixon took us off the gold standard. It allowed greed to rule the market..... A. Greenspan was most responsible. Does anyone truly believe some bad home loans cause this? It goes much, Much deeper than that. Stop watching TV and find out what is really going on.............B.T.W. I always vote NO!

does anyone need a transport job i think i will retire & get my fat pension & ss checks iam tired of all this silly talk

teamCROCK,PLEASE use the right form of the word (to).In your last post it should have been too.MAYBE you're under TOO much pressure!

teamCROCK, I noticed you never really answer anyones question directly,you always stick to your Mantra."THE GOOD BOOK "says let your yeah be yeah & your ney be ney.

Anonymous Emporia KS: My friend, it is management's responsiblity to push and motivate employees. Do you feel you are under to much pressure? Remember, a diamond is a chunk of coal that made good under pressure!

NEWS FLASH!!! On or about Oct 5th Biden will announce that he has to step down because of health problems. Hillary will step in as VP to pull the party together. He will not get sick until after the VP debates. She will do it only because she cares so much. Watch this. I am the man that can see the future. Yes folks you know that neither party plays games. I think this shit is great.

sorry tom (cal) hostess what you suggest is a cop out. we have given enough to the old regime. you vote the way you feel. i am saysing this is not a company proposal . its a union proposal. and unless you can prove me wrong. WHAT HAS THE TEAMSTERS DONE FOR YOU THE LAST 6 YEARS. (ANSWER) SQUAT. THE LAST CONTRACT WAS A SHAM. THIS ONE IS AN EMBARRASSMENT TO ALL TEAMSTER MEMEBERS. YES I AM OVER 20 YEARS IN THIS AND I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF BEING PUSHED AND WORRIED ABOUT THIS COMPANY CLOING OR SELLING PARTS. I DO BELIEVE YOUR WRONG. IT IS TIME NOW TO TAKE A STAND. WE ARE WORKING HARD FOR OUR MONEY. AND SHOULD NOT TAKE THIS TYPE OF A HIT. I WANT TO KEEP EVERY FRIGGIN CENT I EARN. YOUR WRONG CAL (HOSTESS). SAY NO .

teamCROCK....will you be a team player and help clean racks & trucks?That would be multitasking you know.

teambrock, It sounds like you're deeply steeped in Eastern mysticism.I noticed you use the same Mantras over & over like in hinduisim.

Anonymous Emporia KS: My friend, success is a journey, not a destination!

teamCROCK,the turtle also makes alot of overtime as he moves slowly on his route.

Hostess L.A.......I'm sure "THE LORD"doesn't like killing of any kind,including the 5000 Kurds that Huessien gased (they were his own people) as for WMD'S your buddy Clinton said they were there too & FYI...a mistake isn't a lie.

Anonymous Emporia KS: Behold the turtle, he makes progress only when he sticks his neck out, my friend.

I wonder how the Lord feels about all those Iraqi babies and children that have been killed in Bush's war. That's ok with all you so called Christians after all we had to go and get those weapons of mass destruction! You people should hang your heads in shame. Abortion is wrong but so is a war based on lies. The Lord must be lokking down with tears in his eyes.

TO ALL DEMOCRATS......Read Hodgkins posting of the Bloomberg Link,if you have the fortitude.

teamCROCK....please show we in the work force you're a doer not just a talker.

How the Democrats Created the Financial Crisis: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aSKSoiNbnQY0

Anonymous Emporia KS: My friend, I try to inspire employees into higher levels of teamwork. I continually strive to improve my leadership skills. I do not rest on my laurels!

teamCROCK....Yes I have and it starts with leadership examples!

Hodgkins....If the democrats will stop backing SINFUL behavior i.e. homo sexuallity,the shedding of innocent blood on the abortion issue and we turn back to "THE LORD"he will turn it around.The Democrats have had control of the congress for two years and haven't done a thing.STOP blaming the administration.Stand up for rightousness once.

Anonymous Emporia KS: Have you ever heard of the TEAM concept?

Hey Laura! Are you out there somewhere? Please give me a sign.I miss you so!